Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Hi dear Lois...my mom is Bi-polar...in the "old" days... LOL...they had nothing for it, so when I was little, they had her on Valium for anxiety, which made her worse, as it can cause depression...my mom's lows were so low they she was hospitalized many times for months at a time when I was little.......against they tried things and in her earliest (in the 60's) threatened her with electric shock...but heads (excuse my french) --- anyhow.....she has had a long road.....finally in about 1980 (don't know the for sure year) she went on Lithium and was diagnosed (mom had wild mania, but the depression part was the worst for her) --- she was great...getting better, etc...then in the late 80's she went off of it thinking she was OK......watch out!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back it came with a vengeance, ended up in the hospital one more time when I was about 19 ----- started it again and has not been off of it since......Lithium saved her life...she's had to add another something to it for anxiety, but she's been on lithium going on 25 (?) years straight and is pretty even...as even as you can be with any mental Illness... I pray that if J has Bi-polar...that he will be helped...if not they have so much now.. God bless, e From: lois noland <jlois@...>autism Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 8:43:58 PMSubject: Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Whaat did she take it for? J is to take it for agression. Does she have any side effects? Thanks! ((HUGS)) Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Hi dear Lois...my mom is Bi-polar...in the "old" days... LOL...they had nothing for it, so when I was little, they had her on Valium for anxiety, which made her worse, as it can cause depression...my mom's lows were so low they she was hospitalized many times for months at a time when I was little.......against they tried things and in her earliest (in the 60's) threatened her with electric shock...but heads (excuse my french) --- anyhow.....she has had a long road.....finally in about 1980 (don't know the for sure year) she went on Lithium and was diagnosed (mom had wild mania, but the depression part was the worst for her) --- she was great...getting better, etc...then in the late 80's she went off of it thinking she was OK......watch out!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back it came with a vengeance, ended up in the hospital one more time when I was about 19 ----- started it again and has not been off of it since......Lithium saved her life...she's had to add another something to it for anxiety, but she's been on lithium going on 25 (?) years straight and is pretty even...as even as you can be with any mental Illness... I pray that if J has Bi-polar...that he will be helped...if not they have so much now.. God bless, e From: lois noland <jlois@...>autism Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 8:43:58 PMSubject: Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Whaat did she take it for? J is to take it for agression. Does she have any side effects? Thanks! ((HUGS)) Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Another rough day........."Cha'chaing" all over the place and tapping and slapping at me on and off all day. I gave him the litheum today........I didn't see any change yet..........Good or bad. He does have somewhat of a cold.....some sneezzing. I see the Dr. that had J on the zpraxa tomorow morning. I will have to tell him about Dr. Brenner and putting him on Litheum. J did well on zpraxa.......It upsets me that we had to take him off of it but I can't have him have suger problems either. What a mess! Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Another rough day........."Cha'chaing" all over the place and tapping and slapping at me on and off all day. I gave him the litheum today........I didn't see any change yet..........Good or bad. He does have somewhat of a cold.....some sneezzing. I see the Dr. that had J on the zpraxa tomorow morning. I will have to tell him about Dr. Brenner and putting him on Litheum. J did well on zpraxa.......It upsets me that we had to take him off of it but I can't have him have suger problems either. What a mess! Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 e, I think I told you all that my sister is in a mental Hosp. That when she was 20 she was put there and got instusinezed (sp)? I am in chage of her now....She is 72. How much does your mom take? I gave J his dose today but I haven't seen any changes so far yet. I got it in capsule form and have to open it up and put it on a spoon. Did your mom have any agression? I see the Dr. that had J on zpraxa tomorow morning. Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 e, I think I told you all that my sister is in a mental Hosp. That when she was 20 she was put there and got instusinezed (sp)? I am in chage of her now....She is 72. How much does your mom take? I gave J his dose today but I haven't seen any changes so far yet. I got it in capsule form and have to open it up and put it on a spoon. Did your mom have any agression? I see the Dr. that had J on zpraxa tomorow morning. Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 It will take from 5 to 14 days for you to see any results from the lithium.. I know it is rough. I'm so sorry. My prayers are with you. Let me know what the doctor says tomorrow. Is J still sleeping at night? Love and blessings, Pat K Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Another rough day........."Cha'chaing" all over the place and tapping and slapping at me on and off all day. I gave him the litheum today........I didn't see any change yet..........Good or bad. He does have somewhat of a cold.....some sneezzing. I see the Dr. that had J on the zpraxa tomorow morning. I will have to tell him about Dr. Brenner and putting him on Litheum. J did well on zpraxa.......It upsets me that we had to take him off of it but I can't have him have suger problems either. What a mess! Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 It will take from 5 to 14 days for you to see any results from the lithium.. I know it is rough. I'm so sorry. My prayers are with you. Let me know what the doctor says tomorrow. Is J still sleeping at night? Love and blessings, Pat K Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Another rough day........."Cha'chaing" all over the place and tapping and slapping at me on and off all day. I gave him the litheum today........I didn't see any change yet..........Good or bad. He does have somewhat of a cold.....some sneezzing. I see the Dr. that had J on the zpraxa tomorow morning. I will have to tell him about Dr. Brenner and putting him on Litheum. J did well on zpraxa.......It upsets me that we had to take him off of it but I can't have him have suger problems either. What a mess! Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 No she did not...mom has "Classic" bi-polar...high highs, and low lows....Men may experience the aggression part more?! I am praying for J today....please know that Lithium takes weeks to get into the blood stream and so it's job...so you will NOT see results for some weeks...probably 6 weeks or so.....Hang in there! Praying for you...this has got to be rough! e From: lois noland <jlois@...>autism Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 7:57:09 PMSubject: Re: How's J OH MY!!!! e, I think I told you all that my sister is in a mental Hosp. That when she was 20 she was put there and got instusinezed (sp)? I am in chage of her now....She is 72. How much does your mom take? I gave J his dose today but I haven't seen any changes so far yet. I got it in capsule form and have to open it up and put it on a spoon. Did your mom have any agression? I see the Dr. that had J on zpraxa tomorow morning. Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 No she did not...mom has "Classic" bi-polar...high highs, and low lows....Men may experience the aggression part more?! I am praying for J today....please know that Lithium takes weeks to get into the blood stream and so it's job...so you will NOT see results for some weeks...probably 6 weeks or so.....Hang in there! Praying for you...this has got to be rough! e From: lois noland <jlois@...>autism Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 7:57:09 PMSubject: Re: How's J OH MY!!!! e, I think I told you all that my sister is in a mental Hosp. That when she was 20 she was put there and got instusinezed (sp)? I am in chage of her now....She is 72. How much does your mom take? I gave J his dose today but I haven't seen any changes so far yet. I got it in capsule form and have to open it up and put it on a spoon. Did your mom have any agression? I see the Dr. that had J on zpraxa tomorow morning. Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Pat and all, Went to the Dr. this morning......he was livid that Dr. Brenner put him on Litum! He said it was as bad a drug as zpraxa for getting suger. I told him well......if J's blood would have been checked on more ofter it wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did! When I take J into see him he never weights J or checks his blood pressure like the older Dr. use to do. He said well.....since I started it he will give it a week and I am to go back next Monday. J is to have more blood taken this coming weekend. He is still "tapping" me but nothing major............At the day program (awakeings) He slapped the wall a few times but didn't hit at . I worried all day while I was working about him. Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Pat and all, Went to the Dr. this morning......he was livid that Dr. Brenner put him on Litum! He said it was as bad a drug as zpraxa for getting suger. I told him well......if J's blood would have been checked on more ofter it wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did! When I take J into see him he never weights J or checks his blood pressure like the older Dr. use to do. He said well.....since I started it he will give it a week and I am to go back next Monday. J is to have more blood taken this coming weekend. He is still "tapping" me but nothing major............At the day program (awakeings) He slapped the wall a few times but didn't hit at . I worried all day while I was working about him. Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 e, did you get the last e-mail I sent to Pat? Dr. Badoy said I should see something by the end of the week. J is taking 300mg 3 times a day. I hear that that is not that high? Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 e, did you get the last e-mail I sent to Pat? Dr. Badoy said I should see something by the end of the week. J is taking 300mg 3 times a day. I hear that that is not that high? Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Lois, would it help J to just increase the Ativan a little bit to get him through this withdrawal? At least J seems to be working hard at controling himself. Karac had a very stimming day yesterday, but today he was back to normal. I think he was upset yesterday for not getting to go to the fair with his family. I still have you on my mind and in my heart and prayers. Love and blessings, Pat K Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Pat and all, Went to the Dr. this morning......he was livid that Dr. Brenner put him on Litum! He said it was as bad a drug as zpraxa for getting suger. I told him well......if J's blood would have been checked on more ofter it wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did! When I take J into see him he never weights J or checks his blood pressure like the older Dr. use to do. He said well.....since I started it he will give it a week and I am to go back next Monday. J is to have more blood taken this coming weekend. He is still "tapping" me but nothing major............At the day program (awakeings) He slapped the wall a few times but didn't hit at . I worried all day while I was working about him. Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Lois, would it help J to just increase the Ativan a little bit to get him through this withdrawal? At least J seems to be working hard at controling himself. Karac had a very stimming day yesterday, but today he was back to normal. I think he was upset yesterday for not getting to go to the fair with his family. I still have you on my mind and in my heart and prayers. Love and blessings, Pat K Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Pat and all, Went to the Dr. this morning......he was livid that Dr. Brenner put him on Litum! He said it was as bad a drug as zpraxa for getting suger. I told him well......if J's blood would have been checked on more ofter it wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did! When I take J into see him he never weights J or checks his blood pressure like the older Dr. use to do. He said well.....since I started it he will give it a week and I am to go back next Monday. J is to have more blood taken this coming weekend. He is still "tapping" me but nothing major............At the day program (awakeings) He slapped the wall a few times but didn't hit at . I worried all day while I was working about him. Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Pat, I can't give J ativan with the lithuim. Sometimes J would have a Paradoxal effect with the aitivin. It would sometimes make him mean and/or wound up. That is why we only gave him a small dose before. I read about lituim and I don't see where it is as bad as zpraxa with blood suger. Lois (: Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Pat, I can't give J ativan with the lithuim. Sometimes J would have a Paradoxal effect with the aitivin. It would sometimes make him mean and/or wound up. That is why we only gave him a small dose before. I read about lituim and I don't see where it is as bad as zpraxa with blood suger. Lois (: Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Lois, here is a link with something about blood sugar. http://home.caregroup.org/clinical/altmed/interactions/Drugs/Lithium_Carbona.htm Elaine Pat, I can't give J ativan with the lithuim. Sometimes J would have a Paradoxal effect with the aitivin. It would sometimes make him mean and/or wound up. That is why we only gave him a small dose before. I read about lituim and I don't see where it is as bad as zpraxa with blood suger. Lois (: Re: How's J OH MY!!!! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.21/2445 - Release Date: 10/19/09 06:40:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Lois, here is a link with something about blood sugar. http://home.caregroup.org/clinical/altmed/interactions/Drugs/Lithium_Carbona.htm Elaine Pat, I can't give J ativan with the lithuim. Sometimes J would have a Paradoxal effect with the aitivin. It would sometimes make him mean and/or wound up. That is why we only gave him a small dose before. I read about lituim and I don't see where it is as bad as zpraxa with blood suger. Lois (: Re: How's J OH MY!!!! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.21/2445 - Release Date: 10/19/09 06:40:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Elaine, I read about insulain and Lituim but is there something else I didn't see? J isen't taking insulain.......yet. Still seeing if his blood suger is going to go down more. Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Elaine, I read about insulain and Lituim but is there something else I didn't see? J isen't taking insulain.......yet. Still seeing if his blood suger is going to go down more. Lois Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 whoops. you are right. If he isn't taking insulin then there should be no problem according to that. Do you have something that tests blood sugar(glucose monitor)? that might help give you an idea of what is happening with the blood sugar levels. would J let you prick his finger? Elaine Re: How's J OH MY!!!! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.21/2445 - Release Date: 10/19/09 06:40:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 whoops. you are right. If he isn't taking insulin then there should be no problem according to that. Do you have something that tests blood sugar(glucose monitor)? that might help give you an idea of what is happening with the blood sugar levels. would J let you prick his finger? Elaine Re: How's J OH MY!!!! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.21/2445 - Release Date: 10/19/09 06:40:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 That is how we found out about the suger. We did it in the Dr.'s office but I don't have anything to use right now. Re: How's J OH MY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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