Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 nina what are you feeding the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Re: Re: QAdvice wanted: how to give ozone therapy to a dog > nina > > what are you feeding the dog Hi Arthur. Please, my legal name is Nenah. To answer your question, I'm feeding Zumi a varied diet that includes: ON VARIED DAYS: raw beef heart & liver, warmed raw chicken, warmed raw lamb, warmed raw string beans lightly steamed broccoli lightly steamed cauliflower other veggies, in season and as available cooked sweet potato occasionally warmed buckwheat groats nori raw egg chicken soup EVERY DAY: raw daikon Super Greens powder from Inner Light yogurt freshly ground flax seeds MSM (for the sulphur, to go with the flax seeds and yogurt--Joanna Budwig's formula) Animal stress formula containing Transfer Factor from 4Life Inner Light's Thymus, Adrenal, Kidney, Liver, Lymph, and Pancreas support formulas ....and some other stuff, probably, that I can't think of right now. But you get the idea Nenah Sylver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Nenah, Null wrote a book on pet care. I haven't read it......... thought it might have some helpful info for you. Dennis Nenah Sylver wrote: > Re: Re: QAdvice wanted: how to give ozone therapy to a dog > > > > >>nina >> >>what are you feeding the dog >> >> > > >Hi Arthur. > >Please, my legal name is Nenah. > >To answer your question, I'm feeding Zumi a varied diet that includes: > >ON VARIED DAYS: >raw beef heart & liver, warmed >raw chicken, warmed >raw lamb, warmed >raw string beans >lightly steamed broccoli >lightly steamed cauliflower >other veggies, in season and as available >cooked sweet potato >occasionally warmed buckwheat groats >nori >raw egg >chicken soup > > >EVERY DAY: >raw daikon >Super Greens powder from Inner Light >yogurt >freshly ground flax seeds >MSM (for the sulphur, to go with the flax seeds and yogurt--Joanna Budwig's >formula) >Animal stress formula containing Transfer Factor from 4Life >Inner Light's Thymus, Adrenal, Kidney, Liver, Lymph, and Pancreas support >formulas > >...and some other stuff, probably, that I can't think of right now. But you get >the idea > >Nenah Sylver > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Nenah, Null wrote a book on pet care. I haven't read it......... thought it might have some helpful info for you. Dennis Nenah Sylver wrote: > Re: Re: QAdvice wanted: how to give ozone therapy to a dog > > > > >>nina >> >>what are you feeding the dog >> >> > > >Hi Arthur. > >Please, my legal name is Nenah. > >To answer your question, I'm feeding Zumi a varied diet that includes: > >ON VARIED DAYS: >raw beef heart & liver, warmed >raw chicken, warmed >raw lamb, warmed >raw string beans >lightly steamed broccoli >lightly steamed cauliflower >other veggies, in season and as available >cooked sweet potato >occasionally warmed buckwheat groats >nori >raw egg >chicken soup > > >EVERY DAY: >raw daikon >Super Greens powder from Inner Light >yogurt >freshly ground flax seeds >MSM (for the sulphur, to go with the flax seeds and yogurt--Joanna Budwig's >formula) >Animal stress formula containing Transfer Factor from 4Life >Inner Light's Thymus, Adrenal, Kidney, Liver, Lymph, and Pancreas support >formulas > >...and some other stuff, probably, that I can't think of right now. But you get >the idea > >Nenah Sylver > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 i have no experience with dogs but... here's what i would do if i were in your situation take the grains and starches out, take out the yogurt and msm, take out the inner light greens, take out the sweet potato. dogs are carnivores, and they also like some greens. she will get plenty of sulfur from eggs. stop cooking the other veggies, let the dog choose which one she wants add in chicken bones, necks, thighs, etc. maybe try some small game like rabbit, pheasant, squab. add in more raw eggs or see if she wants to up her intake of eggs. add in marrow bones with plenty of fat, see if she likes it my guess is she will instinctively go for more fats. try raw butter, cream. i had a staffordshire terrier for a while and she would go hog wild when we made bacon. she would literally scream while we were making it, and we would give her the bacon fat, cooked i know but she loved it. she also went wild for marrow bones. her coat was incredible after the bacon fat. now that i'm thinking of it try giving her some raw pork bellies or backs from the butcher with plenty of fat. this might be the ticket as the fats help to absorb toxins and might unburden the liver. if she vomits from some of this don't be dismayed, it might just be working and a be a transition period. present her with the opportunity for more of the foods you are giving and see if she goes for alot of one of the things you are giving her. with regard to the new foods and supplements, get a wide assortment of fresh green herbs and put them in front of her and see which ones she goes for http://www.dogo.org/Dogo_Discussion/_disc1/0000070a.htm maybe even some fresh green juices from the herbs she chooses. maybe try some dandelion greens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 i have no experience with dogs but... here's what i would do if i were in your situation take the grains and starches out, take out the yogurt and msm, take out the inner light greens, take out the sweet potato. dogs are carnivores, and they also like some greens. she will get plenty of sulfur from eggs. stop cooking the other veggies, let the dog choose which one she wants add in chicken bones, necks, thighs, etc. maybe try some small game like rabbit, pheasant, squab. add in more raw eggs or see if she wants to up her intake of eggs. add in marrow bones with plenty of fat, see if she likes it my guess is she will instinctively go for more fats. try raw butter, cream. i had a staffordshire terrier for a while and she would go hog wild when we made bacon. she would literally scream while we were making it, and we would give her the bacon fat, cooked i know but she loved it. she also went wild for marrow bones. her coat was incredible after the bacon fat. now that i'm thinking of it try giving her some raw pork bellies or backs from the butcher with plenty of fat. this might be the ticket as the fats help to absorb toxins and might unburden the liver. if she vomits from some of this don't be dismayed, it might just be working and a be a transition period. present her with the opportunity for more of the foods you are giving and see if she goes for alot of one of the things you are giving her. with regard to the new foods and supplements, get a wide assortment of fresh green herbs and put them in front of her and see which ones she goes for http://www.dogo.org/Dogo_Discussion/_disc1/0000070a.htm maybe even some fresh green juices from the herbs she chooses. maybe try some dandelion greens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Re: Re: QAdvice wanted: how to give ozone therapy to a dog > i have no experience with dogs but... > > here's what i would do if i were in your situation > > take the grains and starches out, take out the yogurt and msm, take out the > inner light greens, take out the sweet potato. dogs are carnivores, and they > also like some greens. she will get plenty of sulfur from eggs. Arthur, I have been giving Zumi the foods I chose after years of experimentation and observation. First, I don't give her grains. Second, if you re-read my email, you'll see that I kept in the yogurt because it's part of the Budwig program. Sulphurous dairy + flax = tumor bustor. Third, she does very well on the Inner Light Super Greens. It is made entirely from sprouts, grasses, herbs, and vegetables. I began giving it to her after her surgery nearly two years ago, and she went from being lethargic and barely moving to quite comfortably walking in only a few hours after being given the greens. My other dog, a recovered Lyme canine and almost 14 years, has loads of energy, which I also attribute to the Super Greens (as well as diet). You obviously don't know anything about this product. If you're interested, it's on my website. Fourth (you may not recall that I said there were things I didn't include in the listing), I give her cooked sweet potato because I'm giving her other things that she won't eat unless they're disguised in sweet potato, which is one of her favorite foods. > stop cooking the other veggies, let the dog choose which one she wants Fifth, I lightly steam and sometimes cook veggies that are heavy in cellulose, which can be hard to digest. Sixth, I give her digestive enzymes with her meals and metabolic enzymes (Wobenzyme) on an empty stomach, morning and evening. > add in chicken bones, necks, thighs, etc. maybe try some small game like > rabbit, pheasant, squab. Seventh (and incidentally), I forgot to mention that her meats are organic (as are 99% of everything else she eats). I don't overdo the meats because, according to Dr. Young (formulator of Inner Light's Super Greens), cancer is an acidic condition of fermentation, and meat is highly acid-forming. I don't give her too many raw bones (which I used to) because I have another, old dog who is practically toothless and Tali can't handle bones. I don't want Tali to feel bad. When I make soups of chicken, lamb or beef bones, some of which I feed to the dogs, I cook them for a really long time so all the marrow and calcium and other stuff leeches into the water. > add in more raw eggs or see if she wants to up her intake of eggs. I could do that. But I like to make it a varied diet. > add in marrow bones with plenty of fat, see if she likes it She does get plenty of fat. Along with the fat from the meat, AND the marrow bones (see soup reference above), I give her essential fatty acids in the form of a special oil blend (similar to Udo's). Studies have shown that people with cancer are lacking in EFAs. > my guess is she will instinctively go for more fats. try raw butter, cream. Oh, and raw butter is illegal in my state. However, if I can get someone in a raw butter/cream state to offer to send some to me, I'll happily pay shipping charges as well as the cost of the products. FYI, I did manage to obtain 3 tubs of raw butter and I've been giving that to her too. > i had a staffordshire terrier for a while and she would go hog wild when we > made bacon. she would literally scream while we were making it, and we would > give her the bacon fat, cooked i know but she loved it. she also went wild > for marrow bones. her coat was incredible after the bacon fat. now that i'm > thinking of it try giving her some raw pork bellies or backs from the > butcher with plenty of fat. this might be the ticket as the fats help to > absorb toxins and might unburden the liver. if she vomits from some of this > don't be dismayed, it might just be working and a be a transition period. I don't feel comfortable giving my dogs raw pork. I just de-wormed them. > present her with the opportunity for more of the foods you are giving and > see if she goes for alot of one of the things you are giving her. with > regard to the new foods and supplements, > > get a wide assortment of fresh green herbs and put them in front of her and > see which ones she goes for In theory this is nice, but it doesn't always work. Dogs are domesticated, away from their wild roots. :As with humans, they don't always eat or do what's good for them. For instance, my dog loves chocolate. The woman who had Zumi for a year and a half before I got her used to constantly feed her chocolate ice cream. Chocolate (and onions) are poisonous to dogs! If Zumi had her way, she'd eat only meat, and chocolate, and quickly sicken and die. > http://www.dogo.org/Dogo_Discussion/_disc1/0000070a.htm Thanks; I'll look at this. > maybe even some fresh green juices from the herbs she chooses. maybe try > some dandelion greens As it is, I spend between 2 and 3 hours a day feeding the dogs and taking care of them, which includes administering to Zumi. I simply don't have the time to juice. Besides, I don't need to if I'm giving her Super Greens. These are all carefully dried at very low temperatures (so as not to destroy the enzymes and life force) and powdered. You simply mix the powder into water. You can see how alive it is when you open the jar: there is a huge static electrical charge that literally makes the green particles stand on end when touched with the plastic scoop. I am very satisfied that this product is superior. Dr. Young, in fact, has taken " before " and " after " photos of live blood with people on Super Greens and the pictures are quite dramatic in showing how the blood has healed. Arthur, as you say, " i have no experience with dogs but... " You made a lot of assumptions in your email. Believe me, I have thought VERY carefully about how to treat my dog(s) and I don't take my stewardship of their lives lightly. Most people (and dogs!) should eat as well as my dogs do. Best, Nenah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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