To micro water for KT or not?

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Dear Ones,

Water heated too long in the microwave can explode and burn one.

I like my water better as it comes out of the INSTAHOT on the filter faucet on

the back of my sink. It is perfect for white or green tea, just under boiling.

They say you can prove to yourself whether microwaving is good by an experiment.

Boil one pot of water on the stove and boil one vessel of water in the micro.

Take two pots filled with earth and plant seeds in each.

Water one with cooled microed water and one with cooled water that has been

boiled on the stove. See which produces better plants.

I haven't tried it yet, but the inference is that the micoed ones won't do well.

Let me know if you find out. LOve. MArge.

[Guest guest]

hello all,

I haven't tried it, but have read that if you water plants with cooled

microwaved water for 5 days, they will die.

This is a great group!

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In message <f58k18+j0tneGroups> you wrote:

> hello all,

>

> I haven't tried it, but have read that if you water plants with cooled

> microwaved water for 5 days, they will die.

Hi , I'm not sure whether this is an urban myth or not. Personally

I am sceptical BUT, nevertheless I would not microwave water for Kombucha

use, just in case. Microwaving water by itself can be dangerous. As it

comes out of the microwave very hot and super-heated it has been known to

suddenly explode boiling water all over the person handling it.

The best way to make your water ready for Kombucha brewing is to make

a small amount concentrate-like for the amount of tea you want to ferment.

It is easy to water it down with either cooled boiled water or cold filtered

water or even water that is clean and additiveless enough to be used straight

from the tap.

There was another method that was mentioned here some time, to use a bought

bottle of water and add sugar and tea straight to the bottle and let the

tea infuse cold for some hours. As far as I can remember this worked very

well for the lady who made Kombucha from that 'cold tea'. Of course she

would then strain it into her brewing vessel and add the culture and liquid

and leave it to brew normally.....

So, give microwaving a wide berth when it comes to water heating.

Welcome-greetings,

Margret :-) UK

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Margret wrote: " The best way to make your water ready for Kombucha brewing

is to make a small amount concentrate-like for the amount of tea you want to

ferment.

It is easy to water it down with either cooled boiled water or cold filtered

water or even water that is clean and additiveless enough to be used

straight

from the tap. "

I would never try to microwave the water for making KT. The method outlined

here really works very well, and I have used it for many months, making my

job much easier when it is time to make a new batch or add to an existing

continuous brew batch.

Microwaving, as I understand it, kills whatever is cooked by this method.

Kills it dead. When we started feeding out dogs a raw diet, we were warned

by a scientist not to defrost the frozen foods in the microwave because it

kills the enzymes and everything else we depend on for nutrients. I figure

what is good for the dogs is certainly not too good for us!

Joyce

Dallas tX

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Margret wrote: " The best way to make your water ready for Kombucha brewing

is to make a small amount concentrate-like for the amount of tea you want to

ferment.

It is easy to water it down with either cooled boiled water or cold filtered

water or even water that is clean and additiveless enough to be used

straight

from the tap. "

I would never try to microwave the water for making KT. The method outlined

here really works very well, and I have used it for many months, making my

job much easier when it is time to make a new batch or add to an existing

continuous brew batch.

Microwaving, as I understand it, kills whatever is cooked by this method.

Kills it dead. When we started feeding out dogs a raw diet, we were warned

by a scientist not to defrost the frozen foods in the microwave because it

kills the enzymes and everything else we depend on for nutrients. I figure

what is good for the dogs is certainly not too good for us!

Joyce

Dallas tX

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[Guest guest]

" The best way to make your water ready for Kombucha

brewing

> is to make a small amount concentrate-like for the amount of tea

you want to

> ferment.

> It is easy to water it down with either cooled boiled water or cold

filtered

> water or even water that is clean and additiveless enough to be used

> straight

> from the tap. "

>

> I would never try to microwave the water for making KT. The method

outlined

> here really works very well, and I have used it for many months,

making my

> job much easier when it is time to make a new batch or add to an

existing

> continuous brew batch.

>

> Microwaving, as I understand it, kills whatever is cooked by this

method.

> Kills it dead. When we started feeding out dogs a raw diet, we were

warned

> by a scientist not to defrost the frozen foods in the microwave

because it

> kills the enzymes and everything else we depend on for nutrients. I

figure

> what is good for the dogs is certainly not too good for us!

>

> Joyce

> Dallas tX

>

> IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME SINCE I HAVE WRITTEN TO COMMENT ON ANY OF THE

DISCUSSIONS ABOUT KOMBUCHA, BUT THIS IS A CERTAIN AREA I WISH TO

VOICE OUT ABOUT. IM BY FAR A SCIENTIST, BUT SOMEONE MORE ADVANCED

THAN I HAD TOLD ME HOW A MICROWAVE WORKED. MICROWAVES TAKE AND

REVERSE POLARITY WITHIN MOECULES ON A CERTAIN FREQUENCY AT A VERY

HIGH RATE OF SPEED. IMAGINE NORTH POLE BECOMING SOUTH AND THEN BACK

AGAIN IN FRACTIONS OF SECONDS. NOW ALL OF THESE MOLECULES ARE VERY

VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. WITH ALL OF THESE MOLECULES ROTATING FROM NORTH

TO SOUTH AND BACK AGAIN AGAINST EACHOTHER, THIS CAUSES FRICTION. THE

FRICTION IN TURN HEATS THE FOOD OR DRINK YOU ARE PREPARING IN THE

MICROWAVE. THE FRICTION THAT THESE MICROWAVES PROVIDE TEAR THE FOOD

OR DRINK UP AT THE MOLECULAR LEVEL AND MOST IF NOT ALL OF THOSE

MOLECULES IN THE FOOD BECOME BAD. (RENDERING THE FOOD OR DRINK

COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.) YES I STILL USE A MICROWAVE FOR REHEATING

EVERY NOW-AND-THEN, BUT FOR SOMETHING AS HEALTHY AS KOMBUCHA CAN BE

TO YOU, I DONT THINK YOU WANT TO GO THE ROUTE OF HEATING THE WATER IN

THERE FOR THE TEA. I HAVE HEARD OF EXPERIMENTS WHERE SOMEONE HEATED A

CUP OF WATER IN A MICROWAVE AND THEN LETTING IT COOL, THEN THEY TOOK

A SEPERATE CUP OF TAP WATER. WITH THESE TWO CUPS OF WATER, THERE WERE

TWO POTS CONTAINING SEEDS, AND WITH ONE POT BEING WATERED FROM THE

TAP WATER, ANDTHE OTHER POT BEING WATERED BY THE COOLED DOWN

MICROWAVE WATER, THE ONE WITH THE MICROWAVE WATER DID NOT GROW, BUT

THE OTHER DID. ANYONE WHO MIGHT THINK THIS IS STILL OK TO MICROWAVE

YOUR TEA FOR KOMBUCHA, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO GOOGLE AND READ UP ON

JUST EXACTLY WHAT MICROWAVING DOES TO YOUR FOOD AND DRINK. YOU MIGHT

JUST USE THE STOVE MORE OFTEN! =)

-ROY

[Guest guest]

" The best way to make your water ready for Kombucha

brewing

> is to make a small amount concentrate-like for the amount of tea

you want to

> ferment.

> It is easy to water it down with either cooled boiled water or cold

filtered

> water or even water that is clean and additiveless enough to be used

> straight

> from the tap. "

>

> I would never try to microwave the water for making KT. The method

outlined

> here really works very well, and I have used it for many months,

making my

> job much easier when it is time to make a new batch or add to an

existing

> continuous brew batch.

>

> Microwaving, as I understand it, kills whatever is cooked by this

method.

> Kills it dead. When we started feeding out dogs a raw diet, we were

warned

> by a scientist not to defrost the frozen foods in the microwave

because it

> kills the enzymes and everything else we depend on for nutrients. I

figure

> what is good for the dogs is certainly not too good for us!

>

> Joyce

> Dallas tX

>

> IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME SINCE I HAVE WRITTEN TO COMMENT ON ANY OF THE

DISCUSSIONS ABOUT KOMBUCHA, BUT THIS IS A CERTAIN AREA I WISH TO

VOICE OUT ABOUT. IM BY FAR A SCIENTIST, BUT SOMEONE MORE ADVANCED

THAN I HAD TOLD ME HOW A MICROWAVE WORKED. MICROWAVES TAKE AND

REVERSE POLARITY WITHIN MOECULES ON A CERTAIN FREQUENCY AT A VERY

HIGH RATE OF SPEED. IMAGINE NORTH POLE BECOMING SOUTH AND THEN BACK

AGAIN IN FRACTIONS OF SECONDS. NOW ALL OF THESE MOLECULES ARE VERY

VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. WITH ALL OF THESE MOLECULES ROTATING FROM NORTH

TO SOUTH AND BACK AGAIN AGAINST EACHOTHER, THIS CAUSES FRICTION. THE

FRICTION IN TURN HEATS THE FOOD OR DRINK YOU ARE PREPARING IN THE

MICROWAVE. THE FRICTION THAT THESE MICROWAVES PROVIDE TEAR THE FOOD

OR DRINK UP AT THE MOLECULAR LEVEL AND MOST IF NOT ALL OF THOSE

MOLECULES IN THE FOOD BECOME BAD. (RENDERING THE FOOD OR DRINK

COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.) YES I STILL USE A MICROWAVE FOR REHEATING

EVERY NOW-AND-THEN, BUT FOR SOMETHING AS HEALTHY AS KOMBUCHA CAN BE

TO YOU, I DONT THINK YOU WANT TO GO THE ROUTE OF HEATING THE WATER IN

THERE FOR THE TEA. I HAVE HEARD OF EXPERIMENTS WHERE SOMEONE HEATED A

CUP OF WATER IN A MICROWAVE AND THEN LETTING IT COOL, THEN THEY TOOK

A SEPERATE CUP OF TAP WATER. WITH THESE TWO CUPS OF WATER, THERE WERE

TWO POTS CONTAINING SEEDS, AND WITH ONE POT BEING WATERED FROM THE

TAP WATER, ANDTHE OTHER POT BEING WATERED BY THE COOLED DOWN

MICROWAVE WATER, THE ONE WITH THE MICROWAVE WATER DID NOT GROW, BUT

THE OTHER DID. ANYONE WHO MIGHT THINK THIS IS STILL OK TO MICROWAVE

YOUR TEA FOR KOMBUCHA, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO GOOGLE AND READ UP ON

JUST EXACTLY WHAT MICROWAVING DOES TO YOUR FOOD AND DRINK. YOU MIGHT

JUST USE THE STOVE MORE OFTEN! =)

-ROY

[Guest guest]

Hello , Margaret and all,

Here is what is quoted on www.snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

Basically Snopes redid the experiment using better

controls and three different types of plants in 2006

to reach their conclusions that there is NO difference

between the water heated on a gas stove, heated in a

microwave and water not boiled at all. Please read the

entire write up on Snopes at the above web site and

draw your own conclusions. As for me, it is faster and

cleaner (less of a chance to pickup wild airborn

yeasts) for me to heat (I do not make the water boil)

the water to brew the tea in for my KT in my microwave

in a pyrex glass measuring cup. The majority of the

water I use to make my KT with is unheated, cold, PUR

filtered well water. This is the best water I can give

my scobys and me. If anyone doubts this, I wish you

could see some of the monster sized scobys I grow.

Happy brewing to all,

Rae in Idaho

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[Guest guest]

I thought I could never get along without my microwave. I didn't use it for

a lot of cooking, but did use it daily for smaller tasks.

I finally decided to get rid of it, and I do fine with a tea pot, etc. I

bought a counter top size convection oven for small jobs.

I don't miss it at all. 2 main recommendations for health given by a

respected naturpath, was to gete rid of microwave and

non stick cookware.

K

> hello all,

>

> I haven't tried it, but have read that if you water plants with cooled

> microwaved water for 5 days, they will die.

>

> This is a great group!

>

>

[Guest guest]

I thought I could never get along without my microwave. I didn't use it for

a lot of cooking, but did use it daily for smaller tasks.

I finally decided to get rid of it, and I do fine with a tea pot, etc. I

bought a counter top size convection oven for small jobs.

I don't miss it at all. 2 main recommendations for health given by a

respected naturpath, was to gete rid of microwave and

non stick cookware.

K

> hello all,

>

> I haven't tried it, but have read that if you water plants with cooled

> microwaved water for 5 days, they will die.

>

> This is a great group!

>

>

[Guest guest]

(I think) said...

I haven't tried it, but have read that if you water plants with cooled

> microwaved water for 5 days, they will die.

> This is a great group!

There exists an entry, by a Grannie, showing what her granddaughter did at

school.

The other side of the coin can be seen at the following address..... but you

need to read right to the bottom because it starts with Grannie's photos again.

I'm sure this was posted by someone else quite recently.

http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

Nn. England.

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(I think) said...

I haven't tried it, but have read that if you water plants with cooled

> microwaved water for 5 days, they will die.

> This is a great group!

There exists an entry, by a Grannie, showing what her granddaughter did at

school.

The other side of the coin can be seen at the following address..... but you

need to read right to the bottom because it starts with Grannie's photos again.

I'm sure this was posted by someone else quite recently.

http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

Nn. England.

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In message <594139.52980.qm@...> you wrote:

> Hello , Margaret and all,

>

> Here is what is quoted on www.snopes.com

>

> http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

Thanks very much Rae and for mentioning that site.

I finally got round to reading it tonight and it certainly

sounds convincing!

I had suspected for some time the thing could be an urban myth.

Still, I wonder, do you feel comfortable with using the microwave for

anything to do with the Kombucha brewing?

I don't, but then I have been on the Kombucha list long enough to feel

hopelessly prejudiced.

BTW, , I've tasted the 2 new brews (thanks to your generous gift!)

and they are coming on nicely. They were still a bit too sweet yesterday,

day 6. So I'm going to try them again tomorrow, day 8, and see whether they

are harvestable yet. :-)

The Song Yan brew had already developed rather a substantial scoby while

the one was rather thin and wiggly-woo on the top and even more

sweet than the Song Yan. Both smell very healthy and rather lovely, though.

All the best with blessings to all and sundry ....

Margret:-)

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In message <594139.52980.qm@...> you wrote:

> Hello , Margaret and all,

>

> Here is what is quoted on www.snopes.com

>

> http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

Thanks very much Rae and for mentioning that site.

I finally got round to reading it tonight and it certainly

sounds convincing!

I had suspected for some time the thing could be an urban myth.

Still, I wonder, do you feel comfortable with using the microwave for

anything to do with the Kombucha brewing?

I don't, but then I have been on the Kombucha list long enough to feel

hopelessly prejudiced.

BTW, , I've tasted the 2 new brews (thanks to your generous gift!)

and they are coming on nicely. They were still a bit too sweet yesterday,

day 6. So I'm going to try them again tomorrow, day 8, and see whether they

are harvestable yet. :-)

The Song Yan brew had already developed rather a substantial scoby while

the one was rather thin and wiggly-woo on the top and even more

sweet than the Song Yan. Both smell very healthy and rather lovely, though.

All the best with blessings to all and sundry ....

Margret:-)

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