Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Just jumping in here as a list reader that learned about moving lymph the hard way.....Keep it moving! Having been down for several years from an old leg injury and following the allopathic route, I stayed off the leg. Bad news. When I finally wised up and got moving, I realized the benefit. Likewise, after a mastectomy and some persistent swelling in the arm and hand, I went back to full-time farming and the swelling moved out rapidly. Of course, every situation is different, but even now, with my affected arm and leg, when I have a sedentary period, I note swelling that is reduced by activity. With my rebounder and Chi Machine and normal activity, I have been able to stay very level. Barby swollen arm > > > > > > > > I heard from a friend today that is having problems with her arm. Several > > yrs > > ago she had breast cancer and had her breast and lymph nodes removed plus > > she had chemo. Seven yrs later, now the cancer is back but the last couple of > > yrs she has been juicing and doing many things for her health. > > She said her arm is swollen and painful. I fear it's her lack of lymph nodes > > to move out the toxins but don't know what to tell her. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Edith > > There are two similar devices (one is a copycat of the other) called the Photon > Sound Beam and the Light Beam Generator. They are specifically designed to move > lymph and in fact emit ozone as well. > > I haven't used them, so can't comment on my personal reactions. I do know that > users generally report favorably on them. Perhaps someone else has more > information than I do. > > Among the many sites accessed on Google for both are: > www.braintuner.com/photon.htm > > www.lightbeamgenerator.com > > Regards, > Nenah > > Nenah Sylver, Ph.D. > Products, services, and information about health > Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* > Order the book and read excerpts at > http://www.nenahsylver.com/ > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 I heard from a friend today that is having problems with her arm. Several yrs ago she had breast cancer and had her breast and lymph nodes removed plus she had chemo. Seven yrs later, now the cancer is back but the last couple of yrs she has been juicing and doing many things for her health. She said her arm is swollen and painful. I fear it's her lack of lymph nodes to move out the toxins but don't know what to tell her. Any thoughts? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Yes, it sounds like a healing reactions and inflammation. You might want to check out my website page that explains this and maybe you can pass this on to her. http://www.pintsize.com/awakenings/healing_reactions.html Hope this helps, Gale ^i^ swollen arm I heard from a friend today that is having problems with her arm. Several yrs ago she had breast cancer and had her breast and lymph nodes removed plus she had chemo. Seven yrs later, now the cancer is back but the last couple of yrs she has been juicing and doing many things for her health. She said her arm is swollen and painful. I fear it's her lack of lymph nodes to move out the toxins but don't know what to tell her. Any thoughts? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 > > > I heard from a friend today that is having problems with her arm. Several > yrs > ago she had breast cancer and had her breast and lymph nodes removed plus > she had chemo. Seven yrs later, now the cancer is back but the last couple of > yrs she has been juicing and doing many things for her health. > She said her arm is swollen and painful. I fear it's her lack of lymph nodes > to move out the toxins but don't know what to tell her. > > Any thoughts? My thought is that IF your first idea is correct (that it is lymph backup), then I would suggest doing every other thing under the sun that helps move lymph. Here are a few, I'm sure you can find more: 1. deep breathing 2. massage (there are some specific massage techniques that move lymph, but my guess is any kind would help a bit) 3. aerobic exercise--- say a brisk walk, nothing fancy, just movement. 4. there are certainly lyphatic herbs. I'm certain that there is at least some talk of this in Hobbs' book The Foundations of Health. (I'm not saying this is better than other herbal books-- it happens to be a book I'm familiar with.) 5. rebounding (jumping on a " rebounder " mini trampoline) 6. skin brushing Probably also alternating hot and cold showers. good wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 swollen arm > > > I heard from a friend today that is having problems with her arm. Several > yrs > ago she had breast cancer and had her breast and lymph nodes removed plus > she had chemo. Seven yrs later, now the cancer is back but the last couple of > yrs she has been juicing and doing many things for her health. > She said her arm is swollen and painful. I fear it's her lack of lymph nodes > to move out the toxins but don't know what to tell her. > > Any thoughts? > > Edith There are two similar devices (one is a copycat of the other) called the Photon Sound Beam and the Light Beam Generator. They are specifically designed to move lymph and in fact emit ozone as well. I haven't used them, so can't comment on my personal reactions. I do know that users generally report favorably on them. Perhaps someone else has more information than I do. Among the many sites accessed on Google for both are: www.braintuner.com/photon.htm www.lightbeamgenerator.com Regards, Nenah Nenah Sylver, Ph.D. Products, services, and information about health Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Order the book and read excerpts at http://www.nenahsylver.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Don't know if this is appropriate for the problem, but Comfrey Root compresses will reduce inflammation and swelling. I've never seen anything like it. The stuff is miraculous. You would grind the root to a powder, add to boiling water for 3-5 mins. to make a gravy, spread onto sheet while very warm / hot, and wrap the area. Leave on for an hr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Great suggestions, Neenah! I would add that it is not uncommon for different limbs to swell when one is detoxing, I have witnessed it many times. One of the worst was when I started using ozone. My left arm swelled to almost twice the size and leg swelled to more than twice, especially around my ankle, even though I have all my lymph nodes. I believe my left leg was made worse by the fact that I have broken or severely damaged my left ankle 5 times when I was younger. I am sure it interfered with eh lymph carrying away the toxins, therefore the swelling as it came out through the skin. I think having interfered with eh lymph nodes is going to make her recovery much slower and worse but can still be done. Tell her to hang in there, the body is an amazing miracle healer!! Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan, President Institute for Research Integration (IRI) IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit charity, dedicated to helping children with developmental difficulties. Should you wish to contact me directly off-list, please email to kgullan@... or call (619)298-2295 swollen arm > > > I heard from a friend today that is having problems with her arm. Several > yrs > ago she had breast cancer and had her breast and lymph nodes removed plus > she had chemo. Seven yrs later, now the cancer is back but the last couple of > yrs she has been juicing and doing many things for her health. > She said her arm is swollen and painful. I fear it's her lack of lymph nodes > to move out the toxins but don't know what to tell her. > > Any thoughts? > > Edith There are two similar devices (one is a copycat of the other) called the Photon Sound Beam and the Light Beam Generator. They are specifically designed to move lymph and in fact emit ozone as well. I haven't used them, so can't comment on my personal reactions. I do know that users generally report favorably on them. Perhaps someone else has more information than I do. Among the many sites accessed on Google for both are: www.braintuner.com/photon.htm www.lightbeamgenerator.com Regards, Nenah Nenah Sylver, Ph.D. Products, services, and information about health Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Order the book and read excerpts at http://www.nenahsylver.com/ OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 In a message dated 01/30/2004 6:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, spressman@... writes: > Dear Edith, > > Yes it should help to bag the arm. > Also, she can put the end of the tubing (no adapters) > in her arm pit and hold her arm tightly against her body. > This will trap the ozone in her armpit and it will enter > through the skin. > > Skin brushing, rebounding, and other methods should be tried as well. > Juiced watermelon is one of the best diuretics. > Cleavers extract and extract of horse chestnut are also good diuretics. > > Radiation causes cancer... > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > Saul, How many times daily should she do this ozone treatment with the hose under the arm and bagging the arm? Thanks for your help, Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 Dear Edith, Minimum once. Maximum twice. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman ----------------------------------------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: ejohns9525@... Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: swollen arm Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 07:29:49 EST In a message dated 01/30/2004 6:45:33 PM Central Standard Time, spressman@... writes: > Dear Edith, > > Yes it should help to bag the arm. > Also, she can put the end of the tubing (no adapters) > in her arm pit and hold her arm tightly against her body. > This will trap the ozone in her armpit and it will enter > through the skin. > > Skin brushing, rebounding, and other methods should be tried as well. > Juiced watermelon is one of the best diuretics. > Cleavers extract and extract of horse chestnut are also good diuretics. > > Radiation causes cancer... > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > Saul, How many times daily should she do this ozone treatment with the hose under the arm and bagging the arm? Thanks for your help, Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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