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Both of my children were solely breastfed for at least the first few months.

Both continued to be at least partially breastfed until they were about a year

old. And both have neurological and/or psychiatric issues (13yo son with NLD,

AHDH, Tourette's; 10yo daughter with OCD and an as-yet-unnamed LD with slow

processing speed). I don't think we can blame it on lack of breastfeeding, at

least not in our case.

P.

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I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

(Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their

formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of

DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was

not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not

breastfed. Adrien in NV

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My kids were all exclusively breastfed, including nightime feedings,

for up to one year, and continued up to two+ years (along with food of

course). My soon to be 3 yr old still nurses about once a day (for

maybe just 5 minutes) and once before bedtime.

I wish it did stop OCD somehow, but my kids (6) all manifest some form

of neurological issues from severe to just oddities (such as mild

echolalia) in those less affected. Even my 2 yr old started biting her

nails very early on (but also was able to whistle at age 15 or so

months- maybe the oral exercise of breastfeeding makes her mouth more

agile!) . I do hope that nursing reduced or postponed severity of

allergies in some of my kids, with familial tendency towards that.

What I have learned, through being with some (few) mothers who tend

towards breastfeeding ideology (they think it cures and prevents all

ills and critically frown upon bottle feeding as irresponsible-and some

are also in the organic foods camp) is that we cannot micro-control

what ills may affect our children and so should mother them as best we

can (have to take our own needs into account too, for the good of the

children). So make informed decisions, but with moderate or flexible

approaches, and do not listen to or worry about critics, we just don't

need that added burden when we have kids with neuro-differences.

nancy grace

nancy grace

> I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

> (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

> effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

> formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to

their

> formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

> would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of

> DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son

was

> not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not

> breastfed. Adrien in NV

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Both of my OCD kids were breastfed. In fact, my son was breastfed until he was 1

year old because he had such severe food allergies.

Ramona

I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

(Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their

formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of

DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was

not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not

breastfed. Adrien in NV

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<Even my 2 yr old started biting her

nails very early on (but also was able to whistle at age 15 or so

months- maybe the oral exercise of breastfeeding makes her mouth more

agile!) >

Both of my kids were able to whistle at that age,too. Maybe it is the oral

exercise of breastfeeding! Never thought of that before.

Ramona

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Hi Adrien,

How is your son doing?

My OCD son breastfed for the first year of his life too. I believe

breast is probably best overall, but I think in his case, the

tendency towards OCD is probably inherited and breastfeeding didn't

do anything to stop it. I still wonder if the numerous strep

infections he had (a few years after breastfeeding was over)triggered

an existing genetic predisposition in his case, but I will proabably

never know. My husband's mother has rheumatic heart disease (which

is also caused by strep infection and is believed to be similar to

the mechanism in PANDAS - except the antibodies are attacking heart

tissue in rheumatic fever and brain tissue in PANDAS). She has some

mild OCD tendencies, and of course, you know my hubby has OCD too. :)

> I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

> (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

> effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

> formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to

their

> formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

> would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack

of

> DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son

was

> not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were

not

> breastfed. Adrien in NV

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lv2_read wrote:

> I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

> (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

> effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

> formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their

> formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

> would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of

> DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was

> not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not

> breastfed. Adrien in NV

>

>

Mine was breastfed.

Dina

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All 3 of my sons were on formula from day 1. All ended up on soy

formula.

> I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

> (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

> effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

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My son (OCD) was breastfed first 2 years (soley 1st year). Never had formula

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My GAD/OCD child was on a soy formula, then later was diagnosed with a dairy

protein allergy. At 20 months old put on a nondairy based formula and was

removed from any foods containing dairy for about a year . The other two

children started out with non dairy formulas and one has anxiety and OCD

symptoms but has not been diagnosed.

Amy

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Subject: Breastfeeding and OCD

I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

(Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their

formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of

DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was

not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not

breastfed. Adrien in NV

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Hi Amy, welcome back!

Am wondering, as my oldest son (Randall) was on soy milk and allergic

to dairy. You mentioned soy formula and a dairy protein allergy and

switching to a nondairy formula - so does soy (or some soy brands)

have some dairy base??? Curious since Rand was allergic to dairy.

Glad all is well with your family (your previous post) and also school

this year too.

> My GAD/OCD child was on a soy formula, then later was diagnosed with

a dairy

> protein allergy. At 20 months old put on a nondairy based formula

and was

> removed from any foods containing dairy for about a year . The

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I breastfed my son (who has severe OCD and is now 8) exclusively

until he weaned himself at 6 months.

I breastfed my daughter (who also has OCD and is now 6) exclusively

until she weaned herself at 9 months.

I just don't see how they can link OCD to not breast feeding a

child. I think they will find a genetic link very soon. I have OCD

and have had it for as long as I can remember. There are a lot of

people in my family who I would suspect of having OCD. My husband

and I and our kids are participating in genetic study in Canada and

I will be interested to see what happens with it when it ends in a

few years. Almost all researchers of OCD seem to think there is a

genetic component to OCD, they just can't identify exactly what it

is. It may even be that there is a genetic disorder passed down

that in turn causes the OCD when compounded with other disease and

or environemntal factors. Whatever it is, it is sure to be very

complicated and not to be explained by one piece of information.

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Hi

Yes soy formulas have a dairy protein base in them, they are not completely

dairy free. We had to order a formula called Peptimum Junior which ran

about $283 per case, at 1 case per week. thank God insurance was willing to

cover it with an RX as it was life threatening. Lunch meats, hot dogs,

sherbet and crackers also have high dairy protein amounts. Thanks for the

message!

Amy

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Subject: Re: Breastfeeding and OCD

Hi Amy, welcome back!

Am wondering, as my oldest son (Randall) was on soy milk and allergic

to dairy. You mentioned soy formula and a dairy protein allergy and

switching to a nondairy formula - so does soy (or some soy brands)

have some dairy base??? Curious since Rand was allergic to dairy.

Glad all is well with your family (your previous post) and also school

this year too.

> My GAD/OCD child was on a soy formula, then later was diagnosed with

a dairy

> protein allergy. At 20 months old put on a nondairy based formula

and was

> removed from any foods containing dairy for about a year . The

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Hi

Yes soy formulas have a dairy protein base in them, they are not completely

dairy free. We had to order a formula called Peptimum Junior which ran

about $283 per case, at 1 case per week. thank God insurance was willing to

cover it with an RX as it was life threatening. Lunch meats, hot dogs,

sherbet and crackers also have high dairy protein amounts. Thanks for the

message!

Amy

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Subject: Re: Breastfeeding and OCD

Hi Amy, welcome back!

Am wondering, as my oldest son (Randall) was on soy milk and allergic

to dairy. You mentioned soy formula and a dairy protein allergy and

switching to a nondairy formula - so does soy (or some soy brands)

have some dairy base??? Curious since Rand was allergic to dairy.

Glad all is well with your family (your previous post) and also school

this year too.

> My GAD/OCD child was on a soy formula, then later was diagnosed with

a dairy

> protein allergy. At 20 months old put on a nondairy based formula

and was

> removed from any foods containing dairy for about a year . The

Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed at:

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Mac, Gail Pesses, and Kathy . Subscription issues or

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Hi, Amy! Missed you. Glad Viv is enjoying school and life.

3 of 5 of mine were breastfed. My oldest (breastfed 10 mos.) has had

some anxiety/panic attack problems. The 2nd (formula) may have ADD,

he's almost 20, undiagnosed, deals with it and actually it may be good

for his theatrical " career. " The third is , breastfed for about 9

months until he severely injured me -- ouch -- that was enough of that!,

OCD, did have a lot of ear and strep stuff in his first few years. The

fourth (breastfed about 13 mos.) is very " normal " so far, waiting on

puberty any time now, though :). The fifth (formula) has selective mutism.

Of the pregnancies, #1 and #2 were most stressful, the others were not

bad, but there was a real lot of stress before #5. #3 () was

probably the best of all.

So, based on my pregnancies, don't see a real pattern showing breast or

bottle better or worse, or mama's stress level either.

It would be interesting to know why some kids have problems and some

don't coming out of the same gene pool.

Kim in IA (, 16, OCD)

Amy Kosinski wrote:

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>Yes soy formulas have a dairy protein base in them, they are not completely

>dairy free. We had to order a formula called Peptimum Junior which ran

>about $283 per case, at 1 case per week. thank God insurance was willing to

>cover it with an RX as it was life threatening. Lunch meats, hot dogs,

>sherbet and crackers also have high dairy protein amounts. Thanks for the

>message!

>

>Amy

>

> _____

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>Subject: Re: Breastfeeding and OCD

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>Hi Amy, welcome back!

>Am wondering, as my oldest son (Randall) was on soy milk and allergic

>to dairy. You mentioned soy formula and a dairy protein allergy and

>switching to a nondairy formula - so does soy (or some soy brands)

>have some dairy base??? Curious since Rand was allergic to dairy.

>

>Glad all is well with your family (your previous post) and also school

>this year too.

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My OCD dd was breastfed 1+ years. I'm not sure what if anything this points

to though, it may mean DHA has nothing to do with my child's OCD, or it

could mean that if she had been formula fed, she could have ended up with

OCD plus a host of other brain disorders--in other words, DHA " helped " .

Kathy R. in Indiana

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From: " lv2_read " <jnas5@...>

>I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

> (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

> effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

> formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their

> formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

> would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of

> DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was

> not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not

> breastfed. Adrien in NV

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LOL I posted this before reading through the many others that had

accumulated in my inbox. Now after having read all the other responses, it

seems obvious that breastfeeding is a risk factor for OCD--- :-) LOL

Kathy R. in Indiana

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From: " Kathy " <kathylr@...>

> My OCD dd was breastfed 1+ years. I'm not sure what if anything this

> points

> to though, it may mean DHA has nothing to do with my child's OCD, or it

> could mean that if she had been formula fed, she could have ended up with

> OCD plus a host of other brain disorders--in other words, DHA " helped " .

>

> Kathy R. in Indiana

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " lv2_read " <jnas5@...>

>>I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

>> (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

>> effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

>> formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their

>> formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

>> would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of

>> DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was

>> not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not

>> breastfed. Adrien in NV

>

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both of my kids are ocd and were breastfed, but only a short while.

Breastfeeding and OCD

I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

(Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their

formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of

DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was

not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not

breastfed. Adrien in NV

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Both of my OCD girls were breastfed exclusively for one year each. Neither

one of them would drink formula and only one was willing to drink juice from a

bottle. Kelley in NV

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My son has had ocd for the past 2.5 years (he's now 11) and he was

breasfead exclusively for 4 months, then with both breast and formula

for another 2 months, so I do not think breasfeeding or not makes a

difference.

>

> I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

> (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

> effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

> formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to

their

> formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

> would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack

of

> DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son

was

> not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were

not

> breastfed. Adrien in NV

>

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My son has had ocd for the past 2.5 years (he's now 11) and he was

breasfead exclusively for 4 months, then with both breast and formula

for another 2 months, so I do not think breasfeeding or not makes a

difference.

>

> I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray

> (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its

> effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby

> formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to

their

> formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it

> would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack

of

> DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son

was

> not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were

not

> breastfed. Adrien in NV

>

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