Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 My OCD daughter was breastfed until she was over a year. Never had formula. in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Both of my children were solely breastfed for at least the first few months. Both continued to be at least partially breastfed until they were about a year old. And both have neurological and/or psychiatric issues (13yo son with NLD, AHDH, Tourette's; 10yo daughter with OCD and an as-yet-unnamed LD with slow processing speed). I don't think we can blame it on lack of breastfeeding, at least not in our case. P. lv2_read <jnas5@...> wrote: I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not breastfed. Adrien in NV Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed at: / . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D., Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller, M.D.,Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., ( http://www.lighthouse-press.com ). Our list moderators are Birkhan, Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye, Kathy Mac, Gail Pesses, and Kathy . Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 My kids were all exclusively breastfed, including nightime feedings, for up to one year, and continued up to two+ years (along with food of course). My soon to be 3 yr old still nurses about once a day (for maybe just 5 minutes) and once before bedtime. I wish it did stop OCD somehow, but my kids (6) all manifest some form of neurological issues from severe to just oddities (such as mild echolalia) in those less affected. Even my 2 yr old started biting her nails very early on (but also was able to whistle at age 15 or so months- maybe the oral exercise of breastfeeding makes her mouth more agile!) . I do hope that nursing reduced or postponed severity of allergies in some of my kids, with familial tendency towards that. What I have learned, through being with some (few) mothers who tend towards breastfeeding ideology (they think it cures and prevents all ills and critically frown upon bottle feeding as irresponsible-and some are also in the organic foods camp) is that we cannot micro-control what ills may affect our children and so should mother them as best we can (have to take our own needs into account too, for the good of the children). So make informed decisions, but with moderate or flexible approaches, and do not listen to or worry about critics, we just don't need that added burden when we have kids with neuro-differences. nancy grace nancy grace > I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray > (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its > effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby > formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their > formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it > would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of > DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was > not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not > breastfed. Adrien in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Both of my OCD kids were breastfed. In fact, my son was breastfed until he was 1 year old because he had such severe food allergies. Ramona I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not breastfed. Adrien in NV Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed at: / . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D., Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller, M.D.,Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., ( http://www.lighthouse-press.com ). Our list moderators are Birkhan, Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye, Kathy Mac, Gail Pesses, and Kathy . Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 <Even my 2 yr old started biting her nails very early on (but also was able to whistle at age 15 or so months- maybe the oral exercise of breastfeeding makes her mouth more agile!) > Both of my kids were able to whistle at that age,too. Maybe it is the oral exercise of breastfeeding! Never thought of that before. Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Hi Adrien, How is your son doing? My OCD son breastfed for the first year of his life too. I believe breast is probably best overall, but I think in his case, the tendency towards OCD is probably inherited and breastfeeding didn't do anything to stop it. I still wonder if the numerous strep infections he had (a few years after breastfeeding was over)triggered an existing genetic predisposition in his case, but I will proabably never know. My husband's mother has rheumatic heart disease (which is also caused by strep infection and is believed to be similar to the mechanism in PANDAS - except the antibodies are attacking heart tissue in rheumatic fever and brain tissue in PANDAS). She has some mild OCD tendencies, and of course, you know my hubby has OCD too. > I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray > (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its > effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby > formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their > formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it > would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of > DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was > not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not > breastfed. Adrien in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 lv2_read wrote: > I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray > (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its > effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby > formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their > formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it > would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of > DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was > not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not > breastfed. Adrien in NV > > Mine was breastfed. Dina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 All 3 of my sons were on formula from day 1. All ended up on soy formula. > I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray > (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its > effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 My son (OCD) was breastfed first 2 years (soley 1st year). Never had formula Jenni " A person's a person no matter how small. " ~ Dr Seuss " There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face. " ~Ben Color your world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 My GAD/OCD child was on a soy formula, then later was diagnosed with a dairy protein allergy. At 20 months old put on a nondairy based formula and was removed from any foods containing dairy for about a year . The other two children started out with non dairy formulas and one has anxiety and OCD symptoms but has not been diagnosed. Amy _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of lv2_read Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 3:59 PM Subject: Breastfeeding and OCD I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not breastfed. Adrien in NV Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed at: / . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D., Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller, M.D.,Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., ( http://www.lighthouse-press.com ). Our list moderators are Birkhan, Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye, Kathy Mac, Gail Pesses, and Kathy . Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Hi Amy, welcome back! Am wondering, as my oldest son (Randall) was on soy milk and allergic to dairy. You mentioned soy formula and a dairy protein allergy and switching to a nondairy formula - so does soy (or some soy brands) have some dairy base??? Curious since Rand was allergic to dairy. Glad all is well with your family (your previous post) and also school this year too. > My GAD/OCD child was on a soy formula, then later was diagnosed with a dairy > protein allergy. At 20 months old put on a nondairy based formula and was > removed from any foods containing dairy for about a year . The Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 I breastfed my son (who has severe OCD and is now 8) exclusively until he weaned himself at 6 months. I breastfed my daughter (who also has OCD and is now 6) exclusively until she weaned herself at 9 months. I just don't see how they can link OCD to not breast feeding a child. I think they will find a genetic link very soon. I have OCD and have had it for as long as I can remember. There are a lot of people in my family who I would suspect of having OCD. My husband and I and our kids are participating in genetic study in Canada and I will be interested to see what happens with it when it ends in a few years. Almost all researchers of OCD seem to think there is a genetic component to OCD, they just can't identify exactly what it is. It may even be that there is a genetic disorder passed down that in turn causes the OCD when compounded with other disease and or environemntal factors. Whatever it is, it is sure to be very complicated and not to be explained by one piece of information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Hi Yes soy formulas have a dairy protein base in them, they are not completely dairy free. We had to order a formula called Peptimum Junior which ran about $283 per case, at 1 case per week. thank God insurance was willing to cover it with an RX as it was life threatening. Lunch meats, hot dogs, sherbet and crackers also have high dairy protein amounts. Thanks for the message! Amy _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: Re: Breastfeeding and OCD Hi Amy, welcome back! Am wondering, as my oldest son (Randall) was on soy milk and allergic to dairy. You mentioned soy formula and a dairy protein allergy and switching to a nondairy formula - so does soy (or some soy brands) have some dairy base??? Curious since Rand was allergic to dairy. Glad all is well with your family (your previous post) and also school this year too. > My GAD/OCD child was on a soy formula, then later was diagnosed with a dairy > protein allergy. At 20 months old put on a nondairy based formula and was > removed from any foods containing dairy for about a year . The Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed at: / . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D., Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller, M.D.,Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., ( http://www.lighthouse-press.com ). Our list moderators are Birkhan, Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye, Kathy Mac, Gail Pesses, and Kathy . Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Hi Yes soy formulas have a dairy protein base in them, they are not completely dairy free. We had to order a formula called Peptimum Junior which ran about $283 per case, at 1 case per week. thank God insurance was willing to cover it with an RX as it was life threatening. Lunch meats, hot dogs, sherbet and crackers also have high dairy protein amounts. Thanks for the message! Amy _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: Re: Breastfeeding and OCD Hi Amy, welcome back! Am wondering, as my oldest son (Randall) was on soy milk and allergic to dairy. You mentioned soy formula and a dairy protein allergy and switching to a nondairy formula - so does soy (or some soy brands) have some dairy base??? Curious since Rand was allergic to dairy. Glad all is well with your family (your previous post) and also school this year too. > My GAD/OCD child was on a soy formula, then later was diagnosed with a dairy > protein allergy. At 20 months old put on a nondairy based formula and was > removed from any foods containing dairy for about a year . The Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed at: / . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D., Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller, M.D.,Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., ( http://www.lighthouse-press.com ). Our list moderators are Birkhan, Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye, Kathy Mac, Gail Pesses, and Kathy . Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Hi, Amy! Missed you. Glad Viv is enjoying school and life. 3 of 5 of mine were breastfed. My oldest (breastfed 10 mos.) has had some anxiety/panic attack problems. The 2nd (formula) may have ADD, he's almost 20, undiagnosed, deals with it and actually it may be good for his theatrical " career. " The third is , breastfed for about 9 months until he severely injured me -- ouch -- that was enough of that!, OCD, did have a lot of ear and strep stuff in his first few years. The fourth (breastfed about 13 mos.) is very " normal " so far, waiting on puberty any time now, though . The fifth (formula) has selective mutism. Of the pregnancies, #1 and #2 were most stressful, the others were not bad, but there was a real lot of stress before #5. #3 () was probably the best of all. So, based on my pregnancies, don't see a real pattern showing breast or bottle better or worse, or mama's stress level either. It would be interesting to know why some kids have problems and some don't coming out of the same gene pool. Kim in IA (, 16, OCD) Amy Kosinski wrote: >Hi > >Yes soy formulas have a dairy protein base in them, they are not completely >dairy free. We had to order a formula called Peptimum Junior which ran >about $283 per case, at 1 case per week. thank God insurance was willing to >cover it with an RX as it was life threatening. Lunch meats, hot dogs, >sherbet and crackers also have high dairy protein amounts. Thanks for the >message! > >Amy > > _____ > >From: >[mailto: ] On Behalf Of >Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:04 PM > >Subject: Re: Breastfeeding and OCD > > >Hi Amy, welcome back! >Am wondering, as my oldest son (Randall) was on soy milk and allergic >to dairy. You mentioned soy formula and a dairy protein allergy and >switching to a nondairy formula - so does soy (or some soy brands) >have some dairy base??? Curious since Rand was allergic to dairy. > >Glad all is well with your family (your previous post) and also school >this year too. > > > > > > >>My GAD/OCD child was on a soy formula, then later was diagnosed with >> >> >a dairy > > >>protein allergy. At 20 months old put on a nondairy based formula >> >> >and was > > >>removed from any foods containing dairy for about a year . The >> >> > > > > > >Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed at: >/ . >Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D., Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( >http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller, M.D.,Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., >( http://www.lighthouse-press.com ). Our list moderators are >Birkhan, Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye, Kathy >Mac, Gail Pesses, and Kathy . Subscription issues or >suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at >louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... >. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 My OCD dd was breastfed 1+ years. I'm not sure what if anything this points to though, it may mean DHA has nothing to do with my child's OCD, or it could mean that if she had been formula fed, she could have ended up with OCD plus a host of other brain disorders--in other words, DHA " helped " . Kathy R. in Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: " lv2_read " <jnas5@...> >I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray > (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its > effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby > formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their > formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it > would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of > DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was > not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not > breastfed. Adrien in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 LOL I posted this before reading through the many others that had accumulated in my inbox. Now after having read all the other responses, it seems obvious that breastfeeding is a risk factor for OCD--- :-) LOL Kathy R. in Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: " Kathy " <kathylr@...> > My OCD dd was breastfed 1+ years. I'm not sure what if anything this > points > to though, it may mean DHA has nothing to do with my child's OCD, or it > could mean that if she had been formula fed, she could have ended up with > OCD plus a host of other brain disorders--in other words, DHA " helped " . > > Kathy R. in Indiana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " lv2_read " <jnas5@...> >>I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray >> (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its >> effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby >> formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their >> formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it >> would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of >> DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was >> not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not >> breastfed. Adrien in NV > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 both of my kids are ocd and were breastfed, but only a short while. Breastfeeding and OCD I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not breastfed. Adrien in NV Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed at: / . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D., Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller, M.D.,Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., ( http://www.lighthouse-press.com ). Our list moderators are Birkhan, Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye, Kathy Mac, Gail Pesses, and Kathy . Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Both of my OCD girls were breastfed exclusively for one year each. Neither one of them would drink formula and only one was willing to drink juice from a bottle. Kelley in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 My son has had ocd for the past 2.5 years (he's now 11) and he was breasfead exclusively for 4 months, then with both breast and formula for another 2 months, so I do not think breasfeeding or not makes a difference. > > I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray > (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its > effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby > formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their > formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it > would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of > DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was > not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not > breastfed. Adrien in NV > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 My son has had ocd for the past 2.5 years (he's now 11) and he was breasfead exclusively for 4 months, then with both breast and formula for another 2 months, so I do not think breasfeeding or not makes a difference. > > I was just reading a comment on iHerb.com made by a Dr. Murray > (Holistic Doctor). He was reviewing some research on DHA and its > effects on the brains of developing babies. Until recently, baby > formula manufacturers were not able to add this DHA component to their > formulas, so the only way developing babies would be able to get it > would be through breastmilk. He makes the assumption that the lack of > DHA may attribute to issues of ADD/ADHD, OCD, etc. My own OCD son was > not breastfed. Just curious how many of your OCDers were or were not > breastfed. Adrien in NV > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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