Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 According to Saul, the beta is useful with the sauna if you use a funnel to direct the ozone against the body. As far as filling the sauna, I recall him saying that it lacks sufficient output. The beta is more suited for insuflation, funnel cupping, ozonating water, & limb bagging (I think). Dennis gayu_pwc7 wrote: >Hi, > >Can the beta generator from plasmafire be used for sauna purposes? > >I want to use ozone for " full body sauna " and I find the alpha to be >a bit expensive. So I was wondering if I could use beta for the full >body sauna. > >I am just starting out on ozone. So, even if the concentration is >low with beta for a full body sauna environment, I think it might be >okay. Probably the low concentration might help in preventing a >healing crisis, and also provide benefits. >Appreciate your input on this. > >Thanks, >Gayathri. > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Hello Gayathri, My wife and I have been using the Beta Generator for the sauna without using the funnel. It has worked more than satisfactorily. I know the alpha would probably be better by giving more ozone output. We use the sauna 4-5 times per week, this is our 5th month at it. We both experience the detox rash and itching and my wife actually get oozing sores if she does to much. Saul told us the important thing is sticking with it. Hope this helps you. Rick > > >Hi, > > > >Can the beta generator from plasmafire be used for sauna purposes? > > > >I want to use ozone for " full body sauna " and I find the alpha to be > >a bit expensive. So I was wondering if I could use beta for the full > >body sauna. > > > >I am just starting out on ozone. So, even if the concentration is > >low with beta for a full body sauna environment, I think it might be > >okay. Probably the low concentration might help in preventing a > >healing crisis, and also provide benefits. > >Appreciate your input on this. > > > >Thanks, > >Gayathri. > > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Dear Gayathri, Yes, a Beta generator can be used, provided that it is always with the funnel attachment. That will concentrate the ozone in one area, as well as protect it from the heat. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ -------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " gayu_pwc7 " <gayu_pwc7@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Plasmafire beta for sauna Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:38:29 -0000 Hi, Can the beta generator from plasmafire be used for sauna purposes? I want to use ozone for " full body sauna " and I find the alpha to be a bit expensive. So I was wondering if I could use beta for the full body sauna. I am just starting out on ozone. So, even if the concentration is low with beta for a full body sauna environment, I think it might be okay. Probably the low concentration might help in preventing a healing crisis, and also provide benefits. Appreciate your input on this. Thanks, Gayathri. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Hi Rick, Would you mind telling what benefits you and your wife have received. What you are treating yourself for? The Beta is really working well for you in a sauna? Do you do any limb bagging or insufflation? Drink ozonated water? Thanks, Gail > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >Can the beta generator from plasmafire be used for sauna purposes? > > > > > >I want to use ozone for " full body sauna " and I find the alpha to > be > > >a bit expensive. So I was wondering if I could use beta for the > full > > >body sauna. > > > > > >I am just starting out on ozone. So, even if the concentration is > > >low with beta for a full body sauna environment, I think it might > be > > >okay. Probably the low concentration might help in preventing a > > >healing crisis, and also provide benefits. > > >Appreciate your input on this. > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Gayathri. > > > > > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you > do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By > joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > provider. > > > > > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > normal mode. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Hi Rick, Would you mind telling what benefits you and your wife have received. What you are treating yourself for? The Beta is really working well for you in a sauna? Do you do any limb bagging or insufflation? Drink ozonated water? Thanks, Gail > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >Can the beta generator from plasmafire be used for sauna purposes? > > > > > >I want to use ozone for " full body sauna " and I find the alpha to > be > > >a bit expensive. So I was wondering if I could use beta for the > full > > >body sauna. > > > > > >I am just starting out on ozone. So, even if the concentration is > > >low with beta for a full body sauna environment, I think it might > be > > >okay. Probably the low concentration might help in preventing a > > >healing crisis, and also provide benefits. > > >Appreciate your input on this. > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Gayathri. > > > > > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you > do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By > joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > provider. > > > > > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > normal mode. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Hello Gail, Sorry I didn't respond sooner, we do ozone ear insufflations 2x day, I drink about 90 oz. ozonated water per day, my wife does about 60 oz. I do ozone injections when I feel like I need them. They seem to always add an extra benefit. The draw back is that sometimes they are uncomfortable but they are well worth it. My wife has said she always notices a positive change when I do them. I do about 4-5 saunas a week at somewhere between 25-40 minutes with the beta unit. I get a very definate rash and it seems apparent that I'm detoxing through the skin by the texture of the skin etc. My wife on the other hand does about 3 minutes in the sauna with ozone about every other day. It took her about 4 months to work up to the 3 minutes. When we first started she would break out with severe rashes and they would turn into open sores and ooze out this junk. We have been satisfied with the beta unit so far but I believe the Alpha unit would be more suited for me as I could stand a heavier dose of ozone in the sauna. Saul suggests that beta is better for funneling etc. I didn't really understand that at the time we bought ours but even if I did I wouldn't have been able to afford the alpha. As far as the benefits from ozone generation we have mostly experienced the detox affects and understand that it is a long process and commitment. We use a number of other products of which one of them is Homozon. I have taken it for about 15 years, but my wife recently started taking it and has a dramatic improvement from it. I also experienced the same when I started 15 years ago and I attribute that to the reason that my detoxing is at a minimum. We sell the Homozon at probably the lowest price on the internet, it is an excellent product and is worthy of very serious consideration, if anyone is interested just email us and we will get some to you. We also do liver cleanses the easy way and they are very effective to. I don't know if this answers your questions Best Wishes Rick > > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > > > >Can the beta generator from plasmafire be used for sauna > purposes? > > > > > > > >I want to use ozone for " full body sauna " and I find the alpha to > > be > > > >a bit expensive. So I was wondering if I could use beta for the > > full > > > >body sauna. > > > > > > > >I am just starting out on ozone. So, even if the concentration > is > > > >low with beta for a full body sauna environment, I think it might > > be > > > >okay. Probably the low concentration might help in preventing a > > > >healing crisis, and also provide benefits. > > > >Appreciate your input on this. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Gayathri. > > > > > > > > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > therapies, > > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > find > > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > you > > do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. > By > > joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > > provider. > > > > > > > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of the message! : > > > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > normal mode. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Hello Gail, Sorry I didn't respond sooner, we do ozone ear insufflations 2x day, I drink about 90 oz. ozonated water per day, my wife does about 60 oz. I do ozone injections when I feel like I need them. They seem to always add an extra benefit. The draw back is that sometimes they are uncomfortable but they are well worth it. My wife has said she always notices a positive change when I do them. I do about 4-5 saunas a week at somewhere between 25-40 minutes with the beta unit. I get a very definate rash and it seems apparent that I'm detoxing through the skin by the texture of the skin etc. My wife on the other hand does about 3 minutes in the sauna with ozone about every other day. It took her about 4 months to work up to the 3 minutes. When we first started she would break out with severe rashes and they would turn into open sores and ooze out this junk. We have been satisfied with the beta unit so far but I believe the Alpha unit would be more suited for me as I could stand a heavier dose of ozone in the sauna. Saul suggests that beta is better for funneling etc. I didn't really understand that at the time we bought ours but even if I did I wouldn't have been able to afford the alpha. As far as the benefits from ozone generation we have mostly experienced the detox affects and understand that it is a long process and commitment. We use a number of other products of which one of them is Homozon. I have taken it for about 15 years, but my wife recently started taking it and has a dramatic improvement from it. I also experienced the same when I started 15 years ago and I attribute that to the reason that my detoxing is at a minimum. We sell the Homozon at probably the lowest price on the internet, it is an excellent product and is worthy of very serious consideration, if anyone is interested just email us and we will get some to you. We also do liver cleanses the easy way and they are very effective to. I don't know if this answers your questions Best Wishes Rick > > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > > > >Can the beta generator from plasmafire be used for sauna > purposes? > > > > > > > >I want to use ozone for " full body sauna " and I find the alpha to > > be > > > >a bit expensive. So I was wondering if I could use beta for the > > full > > > >body sauna. > > > > > > > >I am just starting out on ozone. So, even if the concentration > is > > > >low with beta for a full body sauna environment, I think it might > > be > > > >okay. Probably the low concentration might help in preventing a > > > >healing crisis, and also provide benefits. > > > >Appreciate your input on this. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Gayathri. > > > > > > > > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > therapies, > > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > find > > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > you > > do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. > By > > joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > > provider. > > > > > > > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of the message! : > > > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > normal mode. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 -- What are you treating yourself for? And your wife? Anything specific or just general health? Makes me wonder with your wife having such a strong reaction. Just curious and interested. I can hardly wait to get started myself and ofcourse I will simply have to blab all my results. Thanks for responding. I did wonder why you hadn't but thought that's just the way it goes. Some respond; some don't. Thanks again, gail - In oxyplus , " healthsprings_net " <healthsprings@v...> wrote: > Hello Gail, > > Sorry I didn't respond sooner, we do ozone ear insufflations 2x day, > I drink about 90 oz. ozonated water per day, my wife does about 60 > oz. > > I do ozone injections when I feel like I need them. They seem to > always add an extra benefit. The draw back is that sometimes they are > uncomfortable but they are well worth it. My wife has said she always > notices a positive change when I do them. > > I do about 4-5 saunas a week at somewhere between 25-40 minutes with > the beta unit. I get a very definate rash and it seems apparent that > I'm detoxing through the skin by the texture of the skin etc. My wife > on the other hand does about 3 minutes in the sauna with ozone about > every other day. It took her about 4 months to work up to the 3 > minutes. When we first started she would break out with severe rashes > and they would turn into open sores and ooze out this junk. > > We have been satisfied with the beta unit so far but I believe the > Alpha unit would be more suited for me as I could stand a heavier dose > of ozone in the sauna. Saul suggests that beta is better for > funneling etc. I didn't really understand that at the time we bought > ours but even if I did I wouldn't have been able to afford the alpha. > > > As far as the benefits from ozone generation we have mostly > experienced the detox affects and understand that it is a long process > and commitment. > > We use a number of other products of which one of them is Homozon. I > have taken it for about 15 years, but my wife recently started taking > it and has a dramatic improvement from it. I also experienced the > same when I started 15 years ago and I attribute that to the reason > that my detoxing is at a minimum. We sell the Homozon at probably the > lowest price on the internet, it is an excellent product and is worthy > of very serious consideration, if anyone is interested just email us > and we will get some to you. > > We also do liver cleanses the easy way and they are very effective to. > > I don't know if this answers your questions > > Best Wishes > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > > > > > >Can the beta generator from plasmafire be used for sauna > > purposes? > > > > > > > > > >I want to use ozone for " full body sauna " and I find the alpha > to > > > be > > > > >a bit expensive. So I was wondering if I could use beta for the > > > full > > > > >body sauna. > > > > > > > > > >I am just starting out on ozone. So, even if the concentration > > is > > > > >low with beta for a full body sauna environment, I think it > might > > > be > > > > >okay. Probably the low concentration might help in preventing > a > > > > >healing crisis, and also provide benefits. > > > > >Appreciate your input on this. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > >Gayathri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > > therapies, > > > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > > > > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > > > > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > > find > > > here are for information and research purposes only. We are > people > > > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found > here, > > you > > > do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > > > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own > actions. > > By > > > joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > > > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > > > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > > > provider. > > > > > > > > > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > > >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE > or > > > BODY of the message! : > > > > > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > > normal mode. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 -- What are you treating yourself for? And your wife? Anything specific or just general health? Makes me wonder with your wife having such a strong reaction. Just curious and interested. I can hardly wait to get started myself and ofcourse I will simply have to blab all my results. Thanks for responding. I did wonder why you hadn't but thought that's just the way it goes. Some respond; some don't. Thanks again, gail - In oxyplus , " healthsprings_net " <healthsprings@v...> wrote: > Hello Gail, > > Sorry I didn't respond sooner, we do ozone ear insufflations 2x day, > I drink about 90 oz. ozonated water per day, my wife does about 60 > oz. > > I do ozone injections when I feel like I need them. They seem to > always add an extra benefit. The draw back is that sometimes they are > uncomfortable but they are well worth it. My wife has said she always > notices a positive change when I do them. > > I do about 4-5 saunas a week at somewhere between 25-40 minutes with > the beta unit. I get a very definate rash and it seems apparent that > I'm detoxing through the skin by the texture of the skin etc. My wife > on the other hand does about 3 minutes in the sauna with ozone about > every other day. It took her about 4 months to work up to the 3 > minutes. When we first started she would break out with severe rashes > and they would turn into open sores and ooze out this junk. > > We have been satisfied with the beta unit so far but I believe the > Alpha unit would be more suited for me as I could stand a heavier dose > of ozone in the sauna. Saul suggests that beta is better for > funneling etc. I didn't really understand that at the time we bought > ours but even if I did I wouldn't have been able to afford the alpha. > > > As far as the benefits from ozone generation we have mostly > experienced the detox affects and understand that it is a long process > and commitment. > > We use a number of other products of which one of them is Homozon. I > have taken it for about 15 years, but my wife recently started taking > it and has a dramatic improvement from it. I also experienced the > same when I started 15 years ago and I attribute that to the reason > that my detoxing is at a minimum. We sell the Homozon at probably the > lowest price on the internet, it is an excellent product and is worthy > of very serious consideration, if anyone is interested just email us > and we will get some to you. > > We also do liver cleanses the easy way and they are very effective to. > > I don't know if this answers your questions > > Best Wishes > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > > > > > >Can the beta generator from plasmafire be used for sauna > > purposes? > > > > > > > > > >I want to use ozone for " full body sauna " and I find the alpha > to > > > be > > > > >a bit expensive. So I was wondering if I could use beta for the > > > full > > > > >body sauna. > > > > > > > > > >I am just starting out on ozone. So, even if the concentration > > is > > > > >low with beta for a full body sauna environment, I think it > might > > > be > > > > >okay. Probably the low concentration might help in preventing > a > > > > >healing crisis, and also provide benefits. > > > > >Appreciate your input on this. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > >Gayathri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > > therapies, > > > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > > > > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > > > > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > > find > > > here are for information and research purposes only. We are > people > > > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found > here, > > you > > > do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > > > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own > actions. > > By > > > joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > > > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > > > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > > > provider. > > > > > > > > > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > > >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE > or > > > BODY of the message! : > > > > > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > > normal mode. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:06:32 -0000 > From: " healthsprings_net " <healthsprings@...> > > Hello Gail, <snip> > We also do liver cleanses the easy way and they are very effective to. Hi Rick, Care to elaborate on what you consider the 'easy way' to do liver cleanses? thanks charles > I don't know if this answers your questions > > Best Wishes > Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:06:32 -0000 > From: " healthsprings_net " <healthsprings@...> > > Hello Gail, <snip> > We also do liver cleanses the easy way and they are very effective to. Hi Rick, Care to elaborate on what you consider the 'easy way' to do liver cleanses? thanks charles > I don't know if this answers your questions > > Best Wishes > Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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