Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Any sources of black salve or cansema still out there that the FDA has not closed down? Please email me privately with this info as I believe this list is being monitored by FDA. kgullan@... or 619-224-0755 Many thanks. Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: sinus/horseradish/h202 steam In a message dated 10/03/2003 4:15:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kateagain@... writes: << well the excruciating head and nasal pain has me desperate to find some relief. >> I purchased the grossan tip and it was the best 18 dollar investment I made You can irregate with plain saline solution or add other ingredients. Info below. Christel http://www.ent-consult.com/ The single most effective self-help measure you can take to prevent or treat sinusitis is to wash your sinuses daily with salt water. Sinus washing, commonly called sinus irrigation and medically called sinus lavage (and sometimes called nasal washing or nasal douching), is an age-old practice. Historically, it's been used more in the East than in Western societies, though this is changing as irrigation is increasingly being recognized by doctors and in medical literature for its health benefits. Some general practitioners and ENTS, however, still have little knowledge of sinus irrigation or regard it as unproven folk medicine, and they don't mention it to their patients. What irrigating with saline (salt) solution does it help your sinuses do what they're supposed to do themselves -- flush away cold viruses, bacteria, allergens, and fungi. If you have chronic sinusitis, your sinuses have lost some or all of their ability to filter out these invaders. Irrigation is compensation for this. Irrigation Techniques There are a range of irrigation methods to choose from, some more effective than others. Least effective is splashing water up your nose at the sink or in the shower and sniffing it in. Plain tap water stings -- the same feeling as getting water up your nose when swimming. More effective is a bulb irrigator, also called an ear syringe, used with salt water. Its chief benefits are that it's inexpensive, easily available, and easily transportable. Ear syringes are available in most pharmacies. Next up the effectiveness ladder is the neti pot, which looks a bit like a small watering can. It's easier to use than an ear syringe -- you're less likely to splash or leak water over yourself -- and it's easier to regulate the flow of saline, but it's harder to find. One source is Sinus Survival Products, at 888-434-0033 or <A HREF= " http://www.sinussurvival.com, " >http://www.sinussurvival.com,</A> where it's called the SinuCleanse System. The most effective technique is pulsatile (pulsating) irrigation. When liquid pulsates, it does a better job of cleaning -- it digs out the dirt. In the sinuses, pulsation is also thought to stimulate the action of the cilia, part of the sinus' natural defenses, and to remove IgE, a gamma globulin that plays a key role in allergic reactions. There are a number of pulsatile nasal irrigation devices available -- for a listing, see <A HREF= " http://www-surgery.ucsd.edu/ent/davidson/NASHAND/nasal.htm#NASAL_IRRIGATIO\ N " > http://www-surgery.ucsd.edu/ent/davidson/NASHAND/nasal.htm#NASAL_IRRIGATION</A>. The most popular pulsatile irrigation device is the Grossan Irrigator, which like similar devices is an attachment that's used with a Teledyne Water Pik to slow the pulsation to a level appropriate for the sinuses. You can obtain the Grossan Irrigator through the Web site of its creator, Dr. Murray Grossan, at <A HREF= " http://www.ent-consult.com, " > http://www.ent-consult.com,</A> or by phoning Hydro Med at 800-560-9007. You can save money if you buy a Personal Water Pik (at your local pharmacy, for instance) rather than a Professional Water Pik, without losing any sinus functionality. The most common way to irrigate is to bend over the sink and tilt your head to the side to help the irrigation solution drain out. You place the irrigation tip in the upper nostril and let the irrigation solution drain out of the lower nostril. However, if you find this clogs up your ears, hold your head straight, without tilting it. If you want to help the irrigation solution reach further into the frontal sinuses, bend over further, tilting your head downward. Many people warm the saline before irrigating, though some people prefer cooler temperatures. Warming it helps it break up mucus, encourages blood flow to the area, and usually just feels better. Anywhere near body temperature is ideal. One technique for warming saline is to simply place the water or solution in a glass and put it in a microwave oven for a minute. It's recommended that you irrigate your sinuses two times a day when you're experiencing sinus or allergy symptoms or if you have a cold, or three times a day if you're producing a lot of mucus. If you have chronic sinusitis with only mild symptoms, you should irrigate once a day. If you're trying to prevent a cold or allergy flare-up during cold or allergy season, you can irrigate once a day. If you have no symptoms, you don't need to irrigate. Many people use saline nose spray, though its benefits are from moisturizing rather than irrigating. Some people are sensitive to the preservatives used in commercial saline sprays -- their sinuses become irritated. These preservatives can also slow down the functioning of the cilia, compromising the sinus' own disease-fighting capabilities. Mixing a batch of home-made saline, once a week, is safer. Saline Solution There are a two main ways of obtaining saline solution for irrigation. First, you can mix it yourself. The optimal salinity is obtained by adding one level teaspoon of salt to a U.S. pint of water (a U.S. pint is 16 ounces or slightly less than a half liter). Alternately, you can add one-quarter teaspoon of salt to 4 ounces (0.12 liter) of water. This creates an isotonic solution -- same salinity as human blood. Some people prefer a saltier (hypertonic) solution, up to two teaspoons of salt to a pint of water, which can pull moisture out of the sinuses and help shrink swollen mucous membranes. In some people, however, hypertonic saline solution can dry out the sinuses and compromise their disease-fighting ability. It's best to use canning, pickling, or kosher salt rather than table salt or sea salt, as they contain fewer impurities, and to use filtered or distilled water for the same reason. You can obtain canning, pickling, or kosher salt in some supermarkets and health food stores. Some people do fine, though, with tap water and table salt. Some people find that saline solution itself burns from its slight acidity. You can neutralize this by adding a pinch of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) to the saline. The second way you an obtain saline is by buying it prepackaged, which is more convenient though slightly more expensive. Sinus Survival Products, at 888-434-0033 or <A HREF= " http://www.sinussurvival.com, " > http://www.sinussurvival.com,</A> sells 80 packs of saline mixed with baking soda for $5.95. Canning salt is used, at a ratio of four parts salt to one part baking soda, according to a spokesperson at the company. Each packet contains a half teaspoon of salt, so add it to eight ounces of water. Some people use saline solution packaged for use with contact lenses, though this is more expensive, and contact lens solutions made with preservatives can potentially damage the sinus' cilia. Irrigation Additives Some people are experimenting with, and some ENTs are recommending, additives you can include with the saline solution when irrigating. You need to be careful, though, because small amounts of these additives are absorbed into the bloodstream through the sinus' mucous membranes and there's a possibility of swallowing the solution when irrigating. Two irrigation additives that are commonly used are Alkalol and Betadine. Alkalol is an old-time, traditional remedy that can be found or ordered from pharmacies or from Web sites such as More.com, at <A HREF= " http://www.more.com, " >http://www.more.com,</A> for about $3 a bottle. It's a solution of eucalyptus oil, pine needle extract, other plant oils and extracts, and a tiny amount of alcohol, ingredients that together are thought to act as a mucus solvent. Some people find it soothing, others stimulating, others irritating. It's better to start with a small amount rather than the 50/50 ratio of Alkalol to saline indicated in the Alkalol directions. Betadine (and its generic equivalents) is an iodine-based antiseptic used primarily on superficial skin wounds, though some doctors recommend it to help kill off the pathogens that cause sinus infections. It's best to use only a small amount -- from a few drops to a teaspoon -- to avoid potential harm to the thyroid or the kidneys. One technique is to first irrigate with Betadine and immediately afterward to irrigate again without it to wash it away. Some people are allergic to iodine and should avoid Betadine altogether. Some ENTs are experimenting with antibiotics such as Bactroban and Gentamycin as irrigation additives. Ask your ENT about this. Some people are experimenting with other irrigation additives, including tea tree oil (Melaleuca alternifolia), available at health food stores and used for many years in Australia, where it originates. It's described as a germicide, fungicide, and antiseptic, and it's usually used for superficial skin wounds, vaginal candidiasis, foot fungus, and acne. It's very strong, so you need to dilute it -- one study found a 2 percent solution effective. Some people are allergic to the byproducts created when it breaks down (photooxidizes). Some doctors advise against using it or any oil-based product in the sinuses, since any product in the sinuses can wind up in the lungs, and oil, Vaseline, etc., in the lungs can cause pneumonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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