Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Electricity works. If you have a mag pulser, that works also. If not a 9 volt battery and a small resistor and a little moisture and zap it. Join Microelectricitygermkiller for complete instructions. Or if you have a self defense zapper and are brave. Smile. I have used electricity on this type of thing and it works wonders, but you need to know what you are doing, or know that you don't know what you are doing and err on the side of cautious. If you seriously think it is a brown recluse then do SOMETHING, whatever it is. Blessings Donna http://www.excellentthings.com Blood Reports and Spider Bite I have a spider bite on the right calf muscle. IT was thought to be a fire ant bite for several days. About the time it should have been disappearing, it was getting bigger and then took on the appearance of a spider bite. The only person that saw it who had previously had a Brown Recluse bite stated, " mine looked just like that " My question is, Which blood analysis would be valuable at such a time? Today is 10 days since the bite but only 5 days since I started treating it like a spider bite. I have not taken any antibiotics and not been to a doctor. Most of my local friends think I will surely die because I have not been to a doctor and got antibiotics. Since I have not had a physical nor blood reports in nearly two years, I thought I may go to see my favorite doctor and get some blood analysis and the usual physical exam. Then my friends can sleep at night. The pictures of my leg are at.... www.fugitt.com/files/spid1208 The 4 digits in the different picture name indicate the date. Pictures are only about 33 K. If you want to see some other, very bad, spider bite results, here are a few pictures I have collected. http://www.fugitt.com/bspider/ Suggestions for the bite are welcome as well as any specific blood reports that would give me some idea of the ability of my immune system to control this bite, as it seems to have been doing for 10 days. Wayne OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 In a message dated 12/10/2003 4:23:45 PM Central Standard Time, waynefugitt@... writes: > Suggestions for the bite are welcome as well as any specific blood reports > that would give me some idea of the ability of my immune system to control > this bite, as it seems to have been doing for 10 days. > > Wayne > Dr Agatha Thrash tells how a woman came to their clinic that had a brown recluse bite on her hand. the surgeons had cut away alot of tissue but it continued to spread. The Thrashes (both are M.D.s) put charcoal poultices on it with a cloth in between it and bite so there would not be the tatoo effect of the charcoal left. the first 24 hrs it was changed ecery 2 hrs then longer inbetween until all the poison was out and it was healing. And it wouldn't hurt to take some internally. Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 > The pictures of my leg are at.... www.fugitt.com/files/spid1208 > The 4 digits in the different picture name indicate the date. Pictures are > only about 33 K. > > > If you want to see some other, very bad, spider bite results, here are a > few pictures I have collected. > http://www.fugitt.com/bspider/ eek! I thought " your " photos looked " bad " --- until I saw some of the ones in your collection. EEK! (I didn't look at them all.....) > Suggestions for the bite are welcome 1. mix bentonite clay with a little water and make a paste. (Ideally this paste should sit for a while to get the clay soft and uniform. So make more than you want to use right away. It will stop " acting difficult " after it sits for a day... in the meantime do your best to get it to stick to your leg.) Put the paste on the WHOLE area affected then cover with something (like a big bandage?) so that it will stay on and not get all over you. [You MAY be able to buy powdered bentonite at a large HFS. Also try a LARGE clay distributor.) Replace the clay a couple of times a day. (Or if it gets uncomfortable due to getting too dry, you can remove and replace it.) 2. drink water+activated charcoal. This is a general recommendation for ANY kind of poisoning. I don't know if it will help outside of poisons in the digestive tract, but I would do it big time. (I have lots of it, I've taken it many times, I feel comfortable with it.) 3. on general principle, I would do ozone cupping and/or bagging over the bite. (If you have that option.......) 4. on general principle, I would also be taking hot baths, probably with Hydrogen peroxide, possibly with some herbs. And also on general principle I would spray alternating hot and cold water on it for **a long time**. (You need a shower head on a flexible " hose " type of handle to do this.) > as well as any specific blood reports > that would give me some idea of the ability of my immune system to control > this bite, no ideas on what kind of tests........... Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 p.s. hydrogen peroxide " gel " or ozonated oil on the " open wound " part are also good options. > > > The pictures of my leg are at.... www.fugitt.com/files/spid1208 > > The 4 digits in the different picture name indicate the date. > Pictures are > > only about 33 K. > > > > > > If you want to see some other, very bad, spider bite results, here > are a > > few pictures I have collected. > > http://www.fugitt.com/bspider/ > > eek! I thought " your " photos looked " bad " --- until > I saw some of the ones in your collection. EEK! (I didn't > look at them all.....) > > > Suggestions for the bite are welcome > > 1. mix bentonite clay with a little water and make a paste. > (Ideally this paste should sit for a while to get the clay > soft and uniform. So make more than you want to use right > away. It will stop " acting difficult " after it sits for a > day... in the meantime do your best to get it to stick to > your leg.) Put the paste on the WHOLE area affected then > cover with something (like a big bandage?) so that it will stay > on and not get all over you. [You MAY be able to buy > powdered bentonite at a large HFS. Also try a LARGE > clay distributor.) Replace the clay a couple of times > a day. (Or if it gets uncomfortable due to getting too > dry, you can remove and replace it.) > > 2. drink water+activated charcoal. This is a general > recommendation for ANY kind of poisoning. I don't know > if it will help outside of poisons in the digestive > tract, but I would do it big time. (I have lots of it, > I've taken it many times, I feel comfortable with it.) > > 3. on general principle, I would do ozone cupping and/or > bagging over the bite. (If you have that option.......) > > 4. on general principle, I would also be taking hot baths, > probably with Hydrogen peroxide, possibly with some herbs. > And also on general principle I would spray alternating hot > and cold water on it for **a long time**. (You need a > shower head on a flexible " hose " type of handle to do this.) > > > as well as any specific blood reports > > that would give me some idea of the ability of my immune system to > control > > this bite, > > no ideas on what kind of tests........... > > Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 urine topically a few times a day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Dear Wayne, I would suggest that you get some ozone just to be safe. Even soaking in hydrogen peroxide baths.... Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman ======================================== ----Original Message Follows---- From: Wayne Fugitt <waynefugitt@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Blood Reports and Spider Bite Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:00:14 -0600 I have a spider bite on the right calf muscle. IT was thought to be a fire ant bite for several days. About the time it should have been disappearing, it was getting bigger and then took on the appearance of a spider bite. The only person that saw it who had previously had a Brown Recluse bite stated, " mine looked just like that " My question is, Which blood analysis would be valuable at such a time? Today is 10 days since the bite but only 5 days since I started treating it like a spider bite. I have not taken any antibiotics and not been to a doctor. Most of my local friends think I will surely die because I have not been to a doctor and got antibiotics. Since I have not had a physical nor blood reports in nearly two years, I thought I may go to see my favorite doctor and get some blood analysis and the usual physical exam. Then my friends can sleep at night. The pictures of my leg are at.... www.fugitt.com/files/spid1208 The 4 digits in the different picture name indicate the date. Pictures are only about 33 K. If you want to see some other, very bad, spider bite results, here are a few pictures I have collected. http://www.fugitt.com/bspider/ Suggestions for the bite are welcome as well as any specific blood reports that would give me some idea of the ability of my immune system to control this bite, as it seems to have been doing for 10 days. Wayne OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Nitroglycerin patches have been used to successfully treat brown recluse bites. It started being used in Colorado and you can find the article by googling brown recluse nitro. Amy Re: Re: Blood Reports and Spider Bite urine topically a few times a day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Stun guns seem break up the protein of this poison as well as snake bite. South American indian remedy is to crush the critter over the bite. Presumably this gets the antibodies of the critter to work for you as well. Advice to get a physician to help you this late is essential. Re: Blood Reports and Spider Bite > Electricity works. If you have a mag pulser, that works also. If not a 9 volt battery and a small resistor and a little moisture and zap it. Join Microelectricitygermkiller for complete instructions. Or if you have a self defense zapper and are brave. Smile. I have used electricity on this type of thing and it works wonders, but you need to know what you are doing, or know that you don't know what you are doing and err on the side of cautious. > > If you seriously think it is a brown recluse then do SOMETHING, whatever it is. > > Blessings > Donna > > http://www.excellentthings.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Hi Gale I don't think it takes years to heal what has accumulated for years. There may be some leftovers, but most healing should occur well within the first year. Of course it has to be a good modality. The best I have experienced is fasting. I can't compare it to ozone, rife or others that I haven't tried. And I know that ozone is better than fasting for cancer and such things as prostatitis. By age 36 I had sever asthma and sinusitis caused by years of abuse. 24 days of water fasting eliminated all symptoms. I was good for a few years till I became a bad boy again. Then a short 7 day fast would clear me up for a few more years, etc. Corny Re: Blood Reports and Spider Bite Ed McCabe (and others) seems to think that many ill effects can reverse themselves in a similar manner in which one originally experiences them. I must say that I have had some such reversals and maybe this is all it is. Peeling (healing) the bopdy one layer at a time. Best wishes, Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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