Re: Please pray for Ricky

September 4, 2009

I will be praying for Ricky, you, and your fiance. It's funny how everyone knows what you need to do with your "autistic child". Is he on any type of medication that may be causing these violent outburst? I'm so sorry that I don't have any advice for you. What you are going through now is my biggest fear with Caleb when he gets older. He is already hitting, kicking, etc. but he does it to me only for now. I can't imagine what you are going through right now. Pray before you make any decisions that God will show you what you need to do. He will give you peace and help you deal with any decision that y'all make. Gwen

autism From: mlwpdb@...Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:46:10 +0000Subject: Please pray for Ricky

Hi all,Ricky has taken a downward spiral yet again. On Wednesday night he decided to refuse to go to bed. He stood in the doorway to the living room and screamed as loud as he could. It was so loud in fact that a neighbor heard him screaming and called the police. I had two police officers in my living room. One was really nasty towards me, just because I went to the kitchen to take a breather. The other one treated me like he was Dr. Phil and he knew it all. He stood there tellig me all the things I should try to do. Well, guess what, I already did. They left and Ricky still refused to listen and go to bed. He refused until 10:30pm when I said I am going to bed. Then he went to bed. The police said we all should go to bed at 8:30pm. Yeah right! I want my "me" time. Anyways, he got off the school bus yesterday and started it all over again. Very defiant. He decided he was going to go to his friends house across the street. When I reminded him we were going to the laundromat he got very upset, started yelling, hitting and kicking my fiance and tried to push me down. He hit the glass on my screen door really hard, surprised it didn't break. He also wanted to kill my fiance. At that time of the day, none of his caseworkers were in, so we took him to the ER. The ER evaluated him and took him to a place we have been many times before, Rescue Mental Health Services. I don't know how long he will be there. I just don't know what to do with him. I am trying to keep him out of residential living, but I don't know how much longer i can do that.

September 4, 2009

Gwen,

Thanks for the prayers. The medications are Abilify(2mg twice a day) and and Lamictal (100mg once a day). The Lamictal was started in April or May and the Abilify was started in July. Maybe we need a med adjustment. Hopefully I will have some answers when I go to my family meeting at Rescue at 7pm. I am wanting to start the GFCF diet with him soon, but something always gets in my way.

September 4, 2009

Oh , how scary. I'm so sorry that you're going through this. I know how terrifying it is, both to see your baby out of control and not know how to help him as well as to fear for where this will all lead. Please know that you're in my thoughts and prayers as well! *hugs*

Is there a reason that Ricky isn't taking a higher dose of Abilify? Has he had a bad reaction to it at a higher dose? Or does his doctor not feel that it's necessary? Extreme aggression and violence were the primary reasons we began Jake on Abilify and it was a Godsend. We saw amazing results within a matter of days. He began at 10 mg and after about 6 months we increased the dose to 15 mg where he's stayed for a year now. He's still very autistic, make no mistake about it, still has anxiety and behavioral issues, but the aggression and violence have virtually disappeared. And we can manage just about anything else now that his own safety and that of others is not longer at risk.

Love,

Judy

Re: Please pray for Ricky

Gwen,

Thanks for the prayers. The medications are Abilify(2mg twice a day) and and Lamictal (100mg once a day). The Lamictal was started in April or May and the Abilify was started in July. Maybe we need a med adjustment. Hopefully I will have some answers when I go to my family meeting at Rescue at 7pm. I am wanting to start the GFCF diet with him soon, but something always gets in my way.

September 4, 2009

Abilify made my daughter very aggressive.

Lamictal made her anxiety go thru the roof..

I would look at the meds if this has started after he started them.

If it is just an ongoing thing, then maybe you need a higher dose or something else.

Elaine

Re: Please pray for Ricky

Gwen,

Thanks for the prayers. The medications are Abilify(2mg twice a day) and and Lamictal (100mg once a day). The Lamictal was started in April or May and the Abilify was started in July. Maybe we need a med adjustment. Hopefully I will have some answers when I go to my family meeting at Rescue at 7pm. I am wanting to start the GFCF diet with him soon, but something always gets in my way.

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September 5, 2009

Yes, I have heard the Dr. Phil approach; they don't have a clue. I'll keep you in my

prayers tonight. God bless you, your fiance and Ricky. Pat K

Please pray for Ricky

Hi all,

Ricky has taken a downward spiral yet again. On Wednesday night he decided to refuse to go to bed. He stood in the doorway to the living room and screamed as loud as he could. It was so loud in fact that a neighbor heard him screaming and called the police. I had two police officers in my living room. One was really nasty towards me, just because I went to the kitchen to take a breather. The other one treated me like he was Dr. Phil and he knew it all. He stood there tellig me all the things I should try to do. Well, guess what, I already did. They left and Ricky still refused to listen and go to bed. He refused until 10:30pm when I said I am going to bed. Then he went to bed. The police said we all should go to bed at 8:30pm. Yeah right! I want my "me" time.

Anyways, he got off the school bus yesterday and started it all over again. Very defiant. He decided he was going to go to his friends house across the street. When I reminded him we were going to the laundromat he got very upset, started yelling, hitting and kicking my fiance and tried to push me down. He hit the glass on my screen door really hard, surprised it didn't break. He also wanted to kill my fiance. At that time of the day, none of his caseworkers were in, so we took him to the ER.

The ER evaluated him and took him to a place we have been many times before, Rescue Mental Health Services. I don't know how long he will be there. I just don't know what to do with him. I am trying to keep him out of residential living, but I don't know how much longer i can do that.

September 5, 2009

Yes, I have heard the Dr. Phil approach; they don't have a clue. I'll keep you in my

prayers tonight. God bless you, your fiance and Ricky. Pat K

Please pray for Ricky

Hi all,

Ricky has taken a downward spiral yet again. On Wednesday night he decided to refuse to go to bed. He stood in the doorway to the living room and screamed as loud as he could. It was so loud in fact that a neighbor heard him screaming and called the police. I had two police officers in my living room. One was really nasty towards me, just because I went to the kitchen to take a breather. The other one treated me like he was Dr. Phil and he knew it all. He stood there tellig me all the things I should try to do. Well, guess what, I already did. They left and Ricky still refused to listen and go to bed. He refused until 10:30pm when I said I am going to bed. Then he went to bed. The police said we all should go to bed at 8:30pm. Yeah right! I want my "me" time.

Anyways, he got off the school bus yesterday and started it all over again. Very defiant. He decided he was going to go to his friends house across the street. When I reminded him we were going to the laundromat he got very upset, started yelling, hitting and kicking my fiance and tried to push me down. He hit the glass on my screen door really hard, surprised it didn't break. He also wanted to kill my fiance. At that time of the day, none of his caseworkers were in, so we took him to the ER.

The ER evaluated him and took him to a place we have been many times before, Rescue Mental Health Services. I don't know how long he will be there. I just don't know what to do with him. I am trying to keep him out of residential living, but I don't know how much longer i can do that.

September 5, 2009

Thanks Judy! Ricky sees his doctor on September 14, and I will ask more questions about the medication dosage. He may come home tomorrow evening if he has a good day and a good family meeting. I think he thought he would go home tonight, but the doctor noted she wanted him to stay one more night for observation. I noticed it is a full moon. I often wonder if that affects him or not. I have noticed a pattern around that time.

I have got to finish up here and go to bed. I am exhausted. My fiance and I went out to eat tonight. We went to Texas RoadHouse steakl house. Wonderful meal! It was nice not to have to eat at Mcs.

September 5, 2009

Thanks Judy! Ricky sees his doctor on September 14, and I will ask more questions about the medication dosage. He may come home tomorrow evening if he has a good day and a good family meeting. I think he thought he would go home tonight, but the doctor noted she wanted him to stay one more night for observation. I noticed it is a full moon. I often wonder if that affects him or not. I have noticed a pattern around that time.

I have got to finish up here and go to bed. I am exhausted. My fiance and I went out to eat tonight. We went to Texas RoadHouse steakl house. Wonderful meal! It was nice not to have to eat at Mcs.

September 5, 2009

Elaine,

Thanks for the info about your experience with Abilify and Lamictal. This behavior has been on going for almost 4 years now, at this level. He started when he was almost 2 hitting, throwing and sceaming. It was easier then to control, but he got worse as he got older, bigger and stronger. The first medication Ricky was on was Risperdal. When that made him gain too much weight, we tried other meds....too many to count. I am willing to look at a medication increase. I don't know what else, in regards to medication, to try.

September 5, 2009

Elaine,

Thanks for the info about your experience with Abilify and Lamictal. This behavior has been on going for almost 4 years now, at this level. He started when he was almost 2 hitting, throwing and sceaming. It was easier then to control, but he got worse as he got older, bigger and stronger. The first medication Ricky was on was Risperdal. When that made him gain too much weight, we tried other meds....too many to count. I am willing to look at a medication increase. I don't know what else, in regards to medication, to try.

September 5, 2009

Thanks Pat. That cop made me so mad. He just didn't want to listen to me when I told him that I had already tried his suggestions. Yeah, what works with his typical children doesn't work with my son. Oh well, maybe he will have to deal with a family member or friend that is going through what we all go through.

September 5, 2009

>

> Hi all,

>

> Ricky has taken a downward spiral yet again. On Wednesday night he decided to

refuse to go to bed. He stood in the doorway to the living room and screamed as

loud as he could. It was so loud in fact that a neighbor heard him screaming

and called the police. I had two police officers in my living room. One was

really nasty towards me, just because I went to the kitchen to take a breather.

The other one treated me like he was Dr. Phil and he knew it all. He stood

there tellig me all the things I should try to do. Well, guess what, I already

did. They left and Ricky still refused to listen and go to bed. He refused

until 10:30pm when I said I am going to bed. Then he went to bed. The police

said we all should go to bed at 8:30pm. Yeah right! I want my " me " time.

>

> Anyways, he got off the school bus yesterday and started it all over again.

Very defiant. He decided he was going to go to his friends house across the

street. When I reminded him we were going to the laundromat he got very upset,

started yelling, hitting and kicking my fiance and tried to push me down. He

hit the glass on my screen door really hard, surprised it didn't break. He also

wanted to kill my fiance. At that time of the day, none of his caseworkers were

in, so we took him to the ER.

>

> The ER evaluated him and took him to a place we have been many times before,

Rescue Mental Health Services. I don't know how long he will be there. I just

don't know what to do with him. I am trying to keep him out of residential

living, but I don't know how much longer i can do that.

>

WOW,Sounds like you are living my life! I understand what you are feeling!! Only

for me it is my " step-daughter " ,and I dont know what to do!!I have posted on

this site before,only to be put down and made to feel like a bad person,I have a

newborn son(who I look at and pray for everyday!!)and I had to lock him and me

in my bedroom because she lost her cell phone(AGAIN,#4)and was hitting and

kicking walls and windows,I actually had to " arm " myself with a knife,in case

she came and tried to hurt me or my son! My husband pretty much wont

" do " anything to control her,(i also have 3 girls under 12 in the house)I would

like to know how you got the ER to evaluted our child, I know why she is acting

this way(to her,she is the only female that can be in her father's life)and I am

really at the end of my rope!! I at times really feel like saying " F " IT!! But

at the same time I know that she going to be placed in residential living any

time now and that is the only thing that is keeping me here!! I realize you love

your child and dont want to see the bad things(some of these parents,I just dont

get,but if you and all the other parents on this site were not frustrated at

times with their kids and how they act out then we all wouldnt be here)I know I

dont want for everyday to put up with " crap with her and her dad,then it ALWAYS

seems to involve me,my kids,or the new baby.I Am going to pray for you and YOUR

WHOLE FAMILY!! Cuz,trust me I really understand!! And just a little back ground-

I was on bed rest for 6 months,she refused to get of her school bus,I was forced

to physically pick her up(5 foot 6, 155 lbs)and take her off the bus!! After I

told my husband this (he is school bus driver)they tried to pull the tape(VCR in

the bus)but of course the cameras caught nothing!! Like I said I felt like I was

reliving one of my own days when I read your note!! Prayers to you and your

family!!!

September 5, 2009

you did the right thing...the right thing!! I will pray

e

From: mlwpdb <mlwpdb@...>autism Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 12:46:10 PMSubject: Please pray for Ricky

Hi all,Ricky has taken a downward spiral yet again. On Wednesday night he decided to refuse to go to bed. He stood in the doorway to the living room and screamed as loud as he could. It was so loud in fact that a neighbor heard him screaming and called the police. I had two police officers in my living room. One was really nasty towards me, just because I went to the kitchen to take a breather. The other one treated me like he was Dr. Phil and he knew it all. He stood there tellig me all the things I should try to do. Well, guess what, I already did. They left and Ricky still refused to listen and go to bed. He refused until 10:30pm when I said I am going to bed. Then he went to bed. The police said we all should go to bed at 8:30pm. Yeah right! I want my "me" time. Anyways, he got off the school bus yesterday and started it all over again. Very defiant. He decided he was going to go to his friends house across the street. When I

reminded him we were going to the laundromat he got very upset, started yelling, hitting and kicking my fiance and tried to push me down. He hit the glass on my screen door really hard, surprised it didn't break. He also wanted to kill my fiance. At that time of the day, none of his caseworkers were in, so we took him to the ER. The ER evaluated him and took him to a place we have been many times before, Rescue Mental Health Services. I don't know how long he will be there. I just don't know what to do with him. I am trying to keep him out of residential living, but I don't know how much longer i can do that.

September 5, 2009

, do you live in Texas? Pat K

Re: Please pray for Ricky

Thanks Judy! Ricky sees his doctor on September 14, and I will ask more questions about the medication dosage.

He may come home tomorrow evening if he has a good day and a good family meeting. I think he thought he would go home tonight, but the doctor noted she wanted him to stay one more night for observation. I noticed it is a full moon. I often wonder if that affects him or not. I have noticed a pattern around that time.

I have got to finish up here and go to bed. I am exhausted. My fiance and I went out to eat tonight. We went to Texas RoadHouse steakl house. Wonderful meal! It was nice not to have to eat at Mcs.

September 5, 2009

Tobie,

Does your husband not understand what his daughter is doing to the family?? I just don't understand why there are some parents who seem to look the other way. My son's bio-dad claimed that there was nothing wrong with Ricky and that it was just me. Yeah right. That claim didn't work.

I have never had a problem with getting the ER to evaluate Ricky. Now, the problem has been that the ER doc doesn't always see the urgency for getting help. There were times 3 years ago that the doc in the ER would tell me "oh he is so calm and not acting out, why is he here?" I would tell him that of course he calmed down. He "knows" that he can't act out here. It took many times of taking him to the ER, getting established with a dev. ped, psychiatrist, etc. to get things done. Since he has threatened to kill both me and my fiance many times, people usually listen to me. Plus, his history is in the computers at the hospital ER, so they know what they are dealing with. He has had to go by ambulance or police car, sometimes we can get him in the car as well.

As you know, your step daughters behavior is very unsafe for all of you. What I don't understand is why an ER wouldn't help you out. Two of the hospitals in my area have pediatric psych units. Then there is the place Ricky is at, that while it isn't connected to a hospital, there are psych doctors from a mental health agency that treat the kids (and adults as well).

I have gotten over the fear of thinking that Children's services will come in and take Ricky away from me. I have so much documentation of what I have tried and done for him that there would be no chance of any neglect on my part. But some people still try to tell me that someday the police or CSB would take him. I tell them that then he would be getting more advanced help. I am just trying to help him and protect my family and home.

I have also been worried about what would happen if I were to have another child. Now, he has an almost 2 year old sister in Michigan that he doesn't get to see. He seemed ok, so I was told, with his sister. Bio-dad didn't always tell me the truth. So I don't know for sure.

I will keep you and your family in my prayers. It sounds like you are doing all you can do, since her father doesn't seem to help much. Not too much you can do without his ok.

I am glad I found this group. Sometimes we have good things to talk about and sometimes we need some support. I have had good days with Ricky and some bad days. I always know someone will have a word of encouragement for me. More than I get in my life off the group.

Take care and keep posting,

September 5, 2009

Thanks e! I have to just keep trying until an answer comes along. I love him too much to give up, no matter how much grief he gives me.

September 8, 2009

I live in Ohio.

September 8, 2009

Pat, you are determined to find someone else here in Texas -- LOL!!!

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Yes, we are back on board again! Hi Kellie & e!!

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> , do you live in Texas?? Pat K

>

> Re: Please pray for Ricky

>

> Thanks Judy!? Ricky sees his doctor on September 14, and I will ask more

questions about the medication dosage.?

> He may come home tomorrow evening if he has a good day and a good family

meeting.? I think he thought he would go home tonight, but the doctor noted she

wanted him to stay one more night for observation.? I noticed it is a full

moon.? I often wonder if that affects him or not.? I have noticed a pattern

around that time.

>

> ?

>

> I have got to finish up here and go to bed.? I am exhausted.? My fiance and I

went out to eat tonight.? We went to Texas RoadHouse steakl house.? Wonderful

meal!? It was nice not to have to eat at Mcs.

>

> ?

>

September 8, 2009

bummer. PK

Re: Please pray for Ricky

I live in Ohio.

September 8, 2009

Yes, I don't have enough to do; I need someone else to help. LOL, LOL, LOL,

I haven't heard from you in a long time, , but I still pray for you and every day.

How is he doing? Pat K

Re: Please pray for Ricky

>

> Thanks Judy!? Ricky sees his doctor on September 14, and I will ask more questions about the medication dosage.?

> He may come home tomorrow evening if he has a good day and a good family meeting.? I think he thought he would go home tonight, but the doctor noted she wanted him to stay one more night for observation.? I noticed it is a full moon.? I often wonder if that affects him or not.? I have noticed a pattern around that time.

>

> ?

>

> I have got to finish up here and go to bed.? I am exhausted.? My fiance and I went out to eat tonight.? We went to Texas RoadHouse steakl house.? Wonderful meal!? It was nice not to have to eat at Mcs.

>

> ?

>

September 8, 2009

i know. i don't have many close friends who understand what i go through with ricky and that are patient enough to deal with his quirks. i am glad that i have this group.

melissa

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I am thankful for the group too. I think it is a God send. . Love and blessings, Pat K

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i know. i don't have many close friends who understand what i go through with ricky and that are patient enough to deal with his quirks. i am glad that i have this group.

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September 9, 2009

Thank you very much for the prayers.

We are doing okay -- now. went for almost two weeks on very little

sleep. He wakes me up, asking for permission to go to the bathroom. Once I

wake up, I cannot go back to sleep. It really affects how I function during the

day. I cannot go as long as he can without sleep.

Last Saturday morning was terrible. He woke up late and started screaming. He

started banging the walls and throwing things into the hallway. He broke my

large mirror that used to be my Grandmother's (it was over 70 years old), and

started running down the hallway through the glass. He has never done anything

so bizarre before. It scared us all to death! I had to give him an Ativan to

calm down so I could pick out the pieces of glass on his feet. He tracked blood

down the hallway and onto the carpet. Surprisingly, he just had superficial

cuts, nothing deep. About 45 minutes later, he apologized and was fine with

everything. Meanwhile we were all still shaking.

What annoys me is that his behavioral therapist is going to ask me what started

it. What she doesn't get that sometimes NOTHING THAT WE DID WRONG started it.

Times like this, I wonder what is going on inside of his head.

I also wanted to say hi to Kellie too and tell her that my other son, , is

home now from the Navy. He has been here for a week. He didn't tell me that he

was on his way home, and surprised me by ringing my doorbell, after dinner time.

It was very emotional. I haven't seen him since January.

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> > , do you live in Texas?? Pat K

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> > Re: Please pray for Ricky

> >

> > Thanks Judy!? Ricky sees his doctor on September 14, and I will ask more

questions about the medication dosage.?

> > He may come home tomorrow evening if he has a good day and a good family

meeting.? I think he thought he would go home tonight, but the doctor noted she

wanted him to stay one more night for observation.? I noticed it is a full

moon.? I often wonder if that affects him or not.? I have noticed a pattern

around that time.

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> > ?

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> > I have got to finish up here and go to bed.? I am exhausted.? My fiance and

I went out to eat tonight.? We went to Texas RoadHouse steakl house.? Wonderful

meal!? It was nice not to have to eat at Mcs.

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September 9, 2009