Re: Ozoner healing reactions

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In a message dated 10/27/2003 5:46:51 PM Central Standard Time,

moriam@... writes:

> wrong, Ken!

> oxyplus/message/37250

> Sherri-Lee also talks about this " yeast " reaction. It is

> NOT minor. Maybe it is less reaction than other methods,

> I'm not sure...... but it certainly is NOT fun, and in order

> to know which " crisis " is the worst one would have to try them

> all and compare (which I'm not sure I want to do, although

> I've already had a few -- ear ooze, vaginal yeast, and

> skin rash!)

>

> Of course I agree it is easier than rectal.

>

> Moria

>

I had to give up the vaginal insufflations. They were just too itchy. It

became

a 24 hr, everyday problem.

Edith

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No matter what type of detoxify you are doing, you will have some type of

healing reaction. Even though this lady had cancer, she tells about these

reactions so everyone can understand them. She is cancer free today.

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> Hello Sue,

> Cannot understand why anyone with a vagina would do rectal

insufflation? :-) From what I understand doing ozone vaginally gives

almost no healing crisis relative to the other methods

wrong, Ken!

oxyplus/message/37250

Sherri-Lee also talks about this " yeast " reaction. It is

NOT minor. Maybe it is less reaction than other methods,

I'm not sure...... but it certainly is NOT fun, and in order

to know which " crisis " is the worst one would have to try them

all and compare (which I'm not sure I want to do, although

I've already had a few -- ear ooze, vaginal yeast, and

skin rash!)

Of course I agree it is easier than rectal.

Moria

[Guest guest]

Edith, my Lady is just now starting her V. insufflations and has not had a

reaction yet. How long will it be, do you think, before she begins with this

and could you have reduced the time or concentration any to avoid the reaction,

please? Obie.

Re: Re: Ozoner healing reactions

In a message dated 10/27/2003 5:46:51 PM Central Standard Time,

moriam@... writes:

> wrong, Ken!

> oxyplus/message/37250

> Sherri-Lee also talks about this " yeast " reaction. It is

> NOT minor. Maybe it is less reaction than other methods,

> I'm not sure...... but it certainly is NOT fun, and in order

> to know which " crisis " is the worst one would have to try them

> all and compare (which I'm not sure I want to do, although

> I've already had a few -- ear ooze, vaginal yeast, and

> skin rash!)

>

> Of course I agree it is easier than rectal.

>

> Moria

>

I had to give up the vaginal insufflations. They were just too itchy. It

became

a 24 hr, everyday problem.

Edith

[Guest guest]

> Saul and I had an email discussion about this not too long ago. He

emphatically

> stated that even if the critter had become aerobic, ozone at a high

enough

> amount and/or force would blast a hole in it and kill or disable it.

However,

> after numerous insufflations it was clear to me that instead of

getting better,

> my vaginal infection was getting worse. Evidently, my ozone

generator was not

> powerful or versatile enough to get rid of the infection through

insufflation.

So, what did you do, Nenah? Did you stop doing vaginal insufflation?

Did you continue and continue to have yeast? Or something else?

>

> I have no idea, Edith, why your infection isn't clearing up.

Did yours clear up though?

> However, you might

> try the following:

>

> 1) Douching with colloidal silver.

>

> 2) Inserting a capsule of intestinal flora into your vagina at night

(this will

> work if the infection is yeast). Of course, if you have a vaginal yeast

> infection, the colon needs to be repopulated too with friendly flora.

>

> 3) Taking (by mouth) Transfer Factor to stimulate your white blood

cells. You

> can find links to information on my personal website.

>

> 4) Taking (by mouth) Larrea tridentata, also called Shegoi. I was just

> introduced to it and it seems very promising for all types of

infections and

> neurological damage. You can find links to information about this,

too, on my

> personal website.

>

> 5) Maintain the proper pH balance in your system. You can read about

this too on

> my website.

Did any of the above clear up your yeast WHILE YOU WERE DOING

vaginal insufflation regularly? I have no doubt that many things

will help yeast IF you stop doing vaginal insufflation.

Moria

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In a message dated 10/27/2003 8:40:10 PM Central Standard Time,

nenah@... writes:

> Edith,

> There could be a very simple reason why the vaginal sufflations did not work:

>

Nenah,

I was not having an infection. I was doing the protocol that came with

Saul's machine such as ear insufflations, bagging, vaginal insufflations etc

The horrible itch raised it's ugly head and would not go away so I just

quit to keep my sanity while in public. I'm going to start back but

VERY SLOWLY.

Thanks for all the info on your website. I'll read it...sounds very

interesting.

Edith

[Guest guest]

Nenah, can you give more details about what vaginal infection you

had, and what symptoms indicated it was getting worse? Curious did

you actually do testing to see if the bacteria were proliferating?

Ozone is not oxygen. As far as I understand from Saul it is a free

radical.

Also, is your sauna book ready yet (just curious, we'd communicated

about this a while back)

I do know many yeast are facultative anaerobes and that when I did

high dose hyperbaic oxygen my candida got worse. Not the first time

I did it because I was taking colloidal silver then and I guess that

was enough to suppress it, but two summers ago, I wasn't taking

anything and it got worse.

But unless I've misunderstood Saul, 03 is quite different.

> > I had to give up the vaginal insufflations. They were just too

itchy. It

> > became

> > a 24 hr, everyday problem.

> >

> > Edith

>

> Edith,

> There could be a very simple reason why the vaginal sufflations did

not work:

> the microbe causing the infection may have been both anaerobic and

aerobic. Some

> microorganisms are at first unable to survive in oxygen -- BUT then

defend

> themselves after being exposed to an oxygen-rich environment by

developing a

> means to survive in precisely such a medium. Proteus (which if my

memory serves

> me is a bacterium) is one such pathogen, and it loves to live in a

vagina.

>

> Saul and I had an email discussion about this not too long ago. He

emphatically

> stated that even if the critter had become aerobic, ozone at a high

enough

> amount and/or force would blast a hole in it and kill or disable

it. However,

> after numerous insufflations it was clear to me that instead of

getting better,

> my vaginal infection was getting worse. Evidently, my ozone

generator was not

> powerful or versatile enough to get rid of the infection through

insufflation.

>

> I have no idea, Edith, why your infection isn't clearing up.

However, you might

> try the following:

>

> 1) Douching with colloidal silver.

>

> 2) Inserting a capsule of intestinal flora into your vagina at

night (this will

> work if the infection is yeast). Of course, if you have a vaginal

yeast

> infection, the colon needs to be repopulated too with friendly

flora.

>

> 3) Taking (by mouth) Transfer Factor to stimulate your white blood

cells. You

> can find links to information on my personal website.

>

> 4) Taking (by mouth) Larrea tridentata, also called Shegoi. I was

just

> introduced to it and it seems very promising for all types of

infections and

> neurological damage. You can find links to information about this,

too, on my

> personal website.

>

> 5) Maintain the proper pH balance in your system. You can read

about this too on

> my website.

>

> Nenah

>

> Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.

> Products, services, and information about health

> Author (under the name " Nina Silver " ) of

> *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*

> Order the book and read excerpts at

> http://www.nenahsylver.com/

[Guest guest]

> I had to give up the vaginal insufflations. They were just too itchy. It

> became

> a 24 hr, everyday problem.

>

> Edith

Edith,

There could be a very simple reason why the vaginal sufflations did not work:

the microbe causing the infection may have been both anaerobic and aerobic. Some

microorganisms are at first unable to survive in oxygen -- BUT then defend

themselves after being exposed to an oxygen-rich environment by developing a

means to survive in precisely such a medium. Proteus (which if my memory serves

me is a bacterium) is one such pathogen, and it loves to live in a vagina.

Saul and I had an email discussion about this not too long ago. He emphatically

stated that even if the critter had become aerobic, ozone at a high enough

amount and/or force would blast a hole in it and kill or disable it. However,

after numerous insufflations it was clear to me that instead of getting better,

my vaginal infection was getting worse. Evidently, my ozone generator was not

powerful or versatile enough to get rid of the infection through insufflation.

I have no idea, Edith, why your infection isn't clearing up. However, you might

try the following:

1) Douching with colloidal silver.

2) Inserting a capsule of intestinal flora into your vagina at night (this will

work if the infection is yeast). Of course, if you have a vaginal yeast

infection, the colon needs to be repopulated too with friendly flora.

3) Taking (by mouth) Transfer Factor to stimulate your white blood cells. You

can find links to information on my personal website.

4) Taking (by mouth) Larrea tridentata, also called Shegoi. I was just

introduced to it and it seems very promising for all types of infections and

neurological damage. You can find links to information about this, too, on my

personal website.

5) Maintain the proper pH balance in your system. You can read about this too on

my website.

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.

Products, services, and information about health

Author (under the name " Nina Silver " ) of

*The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*

Order the book and read excerpts at

http://www.nenahsylver.com/

[Guest guest]

Cool. Let us know more about shegoi if it works, never heard of it.

Look forward to seeing your sauna book. Am starting to research and

write my piece this weekend, over the next few weeks.

[Guest guest]

Re: Ozoner healing reactions

> So, what did you do, Nenah? Did you stop doing vaginal insufflation?

> Did you continue and continue to have yeast? Or something else?

I stopped the vaginal insufflation when it became clear to me that these

microbes were transforming from anaerobic to aerobic.

> Did yours clear up though?

> Did any of the above clear up your yeast WHILE YOU WERE DOING

> vaginal insufflation regularly? I have no doubt that many things

> will help yeast IF you stop doing vaginal insufflation.

I stopped doing the insufflation entirely and never returned to it. I did work

to maintain the proper pH of my system and douch with colloidal silver. However,

in the past couple of days when I took 2 capsules 3 times a day of the Shegoi, I

noticed a dramatic decrease of itching and burning. This surprised me, because I

would have expected a tincture or cream applied directly to the vaginal area to

help, not the herb in capsule form taken orally.

Best,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.

Products, services, and information about health

Author (under the name " Nina Silver " ) of

*The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*

Order the book and read excerpts at

http://www.nenahsylver.com/

[Guest guest]

Re: Ozoner healing reactions

> Nenah, can you give more details about what vaginal infection you

> had, and what symptoms indicated it was getting worse? Curious did

> you actually do testing to see if the bacteria were proliferating?

> Ozone is not oxygen. As far as I understand from Saul it is a free

> radical.

I had proteus, a microorganism that can switch from being aerobic to anaerobic

and back again, ad infinitum. I relied on my empirical experience of itching,

burning and intense swelling of the tissues to tell me that this method of

proteus elimination was not working.

> Also, is your sauna book ready yet (just curious, we'd communicated

> about this a while back)

My sauna therapy book is almost ready for the printer, thank goodness -- it's

taken much longer than I would have liked! I do not have it back in any readable

form yet.

> I do know many yeast are facultative anaerobes and that when I did

> high dose hyperbaic oxygen my candida got worse. Not the first time

> I did it because I was taking colloidal silver then and I guess that

> was enough to suppress it, but two summers ago, I wasn't taking

> anything and it got worse.

>

> But unless I've misunderstood Saul, 03 is quite different.

Saul insisted that had I continued the treatments, the ozone would eventually

have blasted through the cell wall of the microbes, anaerobic or not. The

problem is, I don't think that my ozone generator has enough power, or force of

flow, to blast through the microbes. Everything I know and intuit tells me that

I was simply making the infection worse. So I stopped.

Fortunately, this new herb I'm taking, packaged under the brand name Shegoi,

seems promising in getting rid of the infection. Ask me in a few weeks and I'll

be able to give you a more complete picture.

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.

Products, services, and information about health

Author (under the name " Nina Silver " ) of

*The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*

Order the book and read excerpts at

http://www.nenahsylver.com/