Guest guest Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 I am glad that h202 is working so well in this case. However, for me, it did not work so good. Colloidal silver was more helpful, but ozone administered to the mouth really did the trick. Pressurize the mouth with it and don't let it go down the windpipe. I can't imagine anything more effective than ozone. It stops decaying cavities in their tracks and acts to re-mineralize the tooth to even more resistant qualities. This doesn't mean that it will regenerate the tooth fully, but it will allow it to wall off the decay similar to what a tree does when its bark sustains an injury. Dick > The 3% h2o2 is continuing to work on my friend's abscessed tooth. Swelling is now DIMINISHING and he is staying pain-free. This is a major event for him as he had been considering having all his teeth pulled!! Receding gums and a junk food diet have taken their toll. He has cancelled his planned visit to the dentist. There is some irritation now in his mouth from the h2o2, but minor. > > He has ordered the kit from www.Albrite.com which purports to solve these problems of receding gums, abscesses, loss of teeth, etc. I'll keep all posted. > > Corny > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 > Hi Moria > > To remineralise teeth use xylitol. It can be bought in a powder and is incredibly cheap. I make a mouthwash from it and since I've been using it the two teeth I was having really sensitivity problems with are completely improved. The xylitol prevents bacteria from clinging to the teeth and helps remineralisation. Its superb stuff, cheap and tastes good > > I am not saying this product is no good, I think it has great value. However, in the most optimistic web sites selling this stuff, they claim that the teeth become 80% more resistant to acid decaying bacteria to the teeth. I didn't see where it actually killed that type of bacteria, not that it matters particularly if one uses it all the time. On the other hand according to newer research, ozone KILLS 99% of this type of bacteria in 10 to 30 seconds. Another tidbit that didn't get into specifics is that one only had to apply ozone every " once in a while " . I think I will buy some anyway for the in between ozone periods because it is dirt cheap as you say and they claim it is also a great sweetener too. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Dick, I am an ozone believer, but it seems to me that the point is not what kills the bacteria the fastest. If the bacteria dies, but the environment doesn't change, then the bacteria will return quickly. But, if the environment, the host terrian, is no longer hospitable to the bacteria, then it will die off as long as the environment is inhospitable. Definitely preferable. N'est pas? jim > > Hi Moria > > > > To remineralise teeth use xylitol. It can be bought in a powder > and is incredibly cheap. I make a mouthwash from it and since I've > been using it the two teeth I was having really sensitivity problems > with are completely improved. The xylitol prevents bacteria from > clinging to the teeth and helps remineralisation. Its superb stuff, > cheap and tastes good > > > > > I am not saying this product is no good, I think it has great value. > However, in the most optimistic web sites selling this stuff, they > claim that the teeth become 80% more resistant to acid decaying > bacteria to the teeth. I didn't see where it actually killed that > type of bacteria, not that it matters particularly if one uses it > all the time. > > On the other hand according to newer research, ozone KILLS 99% of > this type of bacteria in 10 to 30 seconds. Another tidbit that > didn't get into specifics is that one only had to apply ozone > every " once in a while " . > > I think I will buy some anyway for the in between ozone periods > because it is dirt cheap as you say and they claim it is also a > great sweetener too. > > Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 > Dick, > > I am an ozone believer, but it seems to me that the point is not what > kills the bacteria the fastest. If the bacteria dies, but the > environment doesn't change, then the bacteria will return quickly. > > But, if the environment, the host terrian, is no longer hospitable to > the bacteria, then it will die off as long as the environment is > inhospitable. Definitely preferable. > > N'est pas? > > jim Sounds like a great experiment to me Jim. My side has 99% kill, and your side has 80% resistant. I cheat a little though, I chew alfalfa too, which is what you are talking about here. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Hi Dick > > I am not saying this product is no good, I think it has great value. However, in the most optimistic web sites selling this stuff, they claim that the teeth become 80% more resistant to acid decaying bacteria to the teeth. I didn't see where it actually killed that type of bacteria, not that it matters particularly if one uses it all the time. On the other hand according to newer research, ozone KILLS 99% of this type of bacteria in 10 to 30 seconds. Another tidbit that didn't get into specifics is that one only had to apply ozone every " once in a while " . I think I will buy some anyway for the in between ozone periods because it is dirt cheap as you say and they claim it is also a great sweetener too. Yeh Ozone is undoubtably better. How do you apply it to your mouth - as ozonated water??? The xylitol is a superb sweetener as it has a very low glycemic index. Its used in candy bars for diabetics for that reason. One reason I use it a lot as a mouthwash is because after brushing it leaves you teeth feeling wonderfully clean. Its a good preventative, cheap and easy to use - but I reckon that for serious tooth problems ozone is the thing to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Obie I just clicked on the link again and went right to the site. Try it in lower case: www.albrite.com. If that doesn't work, try a google search for: albrite teeth. Corny (Ragnar) tooth pain update The 3% h2o2 is continuing to work on my friend's abscessed tooth. Swelling is now DIMINISHING and he is staying pain-free. This is a major event for him as he had been considering having all his teeth pulled!! Receding gums and a junk food diet have taken their toll. He has cancelled his planned visit to the dentist. There is some irritation now in his mouth from the h2o2, but minor. He has ordered the kit from www.Albrite.com which purports to solve these problems of receding gums, abscesses, loss of teeth, etc. I'll keep all posted. Corny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 , Ragnar!! Obie. _____ From: ragnar redbeard [mailto:corny100@...] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:48 PM oxyplus Subject: Re: tooth pain update Obie I just clicked on the link again and went right to the site. Try it in lower case: www.albrite.com. If that doesn't work, try a google search for: albrite teeth. Corny (Ragnar) tooth pain update The 3% h2o2 is continuing to work on my friend's abscessed tooth. Swelling is now DIMINISHING and he is staying pain-free. This is a major event for him as he had been considering having all his teeth pulled!! Receding gums and a junk food diet have taken their toll. He has cancelled his planned visit to the dentist. There is some irritation now in his mouth from the h2o2, but minor. He has ordered the kit from www.Albrite.com which purports to solve these problems of receding gums, abscesses, loss of teeth, etc. I'll keep all posted. Corny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 This is a great idea. Do you do this once per day? I have an ozone generator so am quite curious. Dan Re: tooth pain update > > > I am glad that h202 is working so well in this case. However, for > me, it did not work so good. Colloidal silver was more helpful, but > ozone administered to the mouth really did the trick. Pressurize the > mouth with it and don't let it go down the windpipe. I can't imagine > anything more effective than ozone. It stops decaying cavities in > their tracks and acts to re-mineralize the tooth to even more > resistant qualities. This doesn't mean that it will regenerate the > tooth fully, but it will allow it to wall off the decay similar to > what a tree does when its bark sustains an injury. > Dick > > > > The 3% h2o2 is continuing to work on my friend's abscessed tooth. > Swelling is now DIMINISHING and he is staying pain-free. This is a > major event for him as he had been considering having all his teeth > pulled!! Receding gums and a junk food diet have taken their toll. > He has cancelled his planned visit to the dentist. There is some > irritation now in his mouth from the h2o2, but minor. > > > > He has ordered the kit from www.Albrite.com which purports to > solve these problems of receding gums, abscesses, loss of teeth, > etc. I'll keep all posted. > > > > Corny > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 > This is a great idea. Do you do this once per day? I have an ozone > generator so am quite curious. > > Dan Would you believe as little as once every 16 weeks?! Until I found this, all I ever heard was 'infrequent use' or 'once in a while' . The posting I found below from a dentist is quite incredible if true. I am just guessing, but I think ozone should be almost harmless to metal and plastic fillings at this rate, which I was somewhat worrying about. Dick Posted by Don Gibson on July 10, 2003 at 13:44:21: In Reply to: Re: Anyone use Healozone for advanced decay and pain? posted by Jerry Mittelman, DDS, FAPM on October 28, 2002 at 15:10:36: Hi everyone, I am a UK dentist who introduced Ozone therapy into our practice in April. The system is quite incredible and will simply turn conventional dentistry on its head in the next few years. Ozone is not the nicest of gasses but the beauty of the Healozone system is that ozone is not produced by the machine until an adequate seal is detected over the decayed tooth. A small rubber cup is placed over the decayed part of the tooth and ozone floods the site for 40 seconds. This kills the acidic niche bacteria in the tooth which cause decay and keeps the tooth in this state for up to 16 weeks. In this time other bacteria which are found naturally in the mouth invade the cavity , some of these bacteria have the ability to remineralise and use natural minerals in saliva or extra minerals from mouthwashes or toothpaste to harden the tooth. The tooth is regularly inspected for repair and further ozone used as required. After the tooth has hardened then a small adhesive filling can be placed in the repaired cavity although as the repaired tooth is stronger than it was before it decayed and far less prone to further decay then this is not strictly necessary. Patient acceptance is naturally wonderful. In some cases air abrasion is used to increase the surface area of decay which will be exposed to the ozone , for example fissure caries. Interim dressings can also be used with GC Fuji VII recommended due ti its high fluoride content. http://www.holisticwebdirectory.com/webboard/Dentistry_Holistic/messag es/157.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 Okay, Dick, thanks for the description of the effects. I still want to know HOW you are using ozone on the tooth. Using ozonated water? Putting ozone gas in your mouth? Other? For how long? I'm also wondering about putting ozone gas in the mouth-- this seems like it would cause faster breakdown of some (or all) filling materials. Can anyone comment on this? Anyone else using ozone in mouth--- please describe HOW you are using it and any effects noted. Much obliged. Moria > Part of my tooth (about half) just cracked and fell off when I bit > down on a hard piece of bacon. The edge of the bacon caught it just > right and split it like an ax on a piece of wood, right down to and > under the gumline. That was on Nov. 11th. Sort of looked like the > side of Mt. St. Helens after she blew. The edge of the tooth was very > sharp and jagged to the tongue. There was decay. As I found out very > quickly, I could not chew on that side of my mouth and I had to tilt > my head the other way when I drank anything. > > I've done 3 or 4 ozone treatments on it since then. Now, I can hardly > detect that jagged feeling when I run my tongue around it. In the past > 4 or 5 days, I have found myself eating on it with almost no > discomfort at all. From looking at it with mirrors, the inner pulp > area seems to be receding from elargement of the tooth. There is a > glimmer of whiteness starting to pop up out of gumline that was > black on that first day. This is the first day I have looked at it > since it happened and did so because you asked. I also chew some > powdered alfalfa for the minerals and the alkalinity, just my idea. > > So, so far I am very satisfied given the short amount of time. It > certainly was timely for group member 'sotainstruments' to post an > article that morning on ozone+tooth carries, otherwise I would of > went to the dentist. I always knew from experience that ozone would > kill tooth pain, but I thought all that talk about tooth regeneration > was a little bit of an exaggeration. Now that I see dentists in the > U.K. practicing this with excellent results, I will stick with it to > its conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 > Okay, Dick, thanks for the description of the effects. > I still want to know HOW you are using ozone on the tooth. > Using ozonated water? Putting ozone gas in your mouth? > Other? For how long? > > I'm also wondering about putting ozone gas in the mouth-- > this seems like it would cause faster breakdown of some > (or all) filling materials. Can anyone comment on this? > > Anyone else using ozone in mouth--- please describe HOW > you are using it and any effects noted. > > Much obliged. > > Moria I think you should of figured it out by now. I posted what a dentist said, and he didn't use ozone water. Also, after seeing my tooth improve like it has, I could care less if ozone hurts those dumb fillings. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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