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Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year

old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and

therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks.

He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has

been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three.

He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has

echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer

you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in

his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which

can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed

asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of

the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his

mom's bed and staying there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living

with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what

can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open

drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords

are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up.

I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and

livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could

get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give

you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the

future! Thanks,Debbie

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Our son is on CLONIDINE. It gets him to sleep at night but there are many time that he will wake up at night and come into our room or wander around. We have a trained dog that will only bark when our son gets out of bed. so that always wakes me up. We also have found that using a weighted blanket helps alot and keeps him in bed, but since it is so hot in the summer we can not use it and notice a huge difference in how much he gets up during the night.

From: debbie582002 <debbie582002@...>Subject: Night time wakingautism Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 2:06 PM

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying

there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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Thank you Kellie,I feel alot of love in this group! It's so nice to talk to people who understand....finally!! I'd wondered about locking his door,we may have to try that for his own safety,I wasn't sure how he'd react if he tried to open it and couldn't. I've also heard of the melatonin. Can you get that in a regular pharmacy? How do you know how much to give a four year old?(He just turned four on the 11th of Aug.) Unfortunately Ethan has severe A-Topic Dermatitis and when he's broken out even plain water hurts him so I don't know if we should try the epsom salts...he also drinks the bath water..lol I don't know what brought on this night waking,he was sleeping so good once he got to sleep. Did you have trouble getting your son to sleep before starting the melatonin? Like I stated before,it takes us anywhere from fifteen minutes to

hours to get Ethan to sleep. Thanks again Kellie,I'm so glad I found this group. You may be hearing from me alot!! Debbie

From: Kellie <folkangel@...>Subject: Re: Night time wakingautism Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:01 PM

Hi Debbie,

Welcome to the group! My used to wake at night and it was not only dangerous but the lack of sleep really made him grumpy and reduced the progress he was making. We have tried many things over the years so I have a few suggestions you may want to try. For epsom salt baths work when he seems to be overly stressed out. We dissolve about 1 cup of epsom salts in hot water and add it to his bath. If your grandson likes to soak in the tub for awhile this may help him. You do have to make sure he doesn't drink a lot of it as it is a natural laxative but if he drinks his bath water ( did) some won't hurt him. We also give the time release form of Melatonin the regular kind doesn't last all night and he wakes around 2am but the time release form helps him sleep all night. The other thing we did was turn the door handle around on his door so the lock is on the outside not

inside. This way we could lock him in his room but open it easily. This only worked until he learned to open the lock with a hanger (watching us open the bathroom doors he like to lock when no one was in the room). It is scary when they get up at night and we all do so much better with a good nights sleep. Kellie

From: debbie582002 <debbie582002>AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comSent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:06:01 PMSubject: Night time waking

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying

there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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Thank you Kellie,I feel alot of love in this group! It's so nice to talk to people who understand....finally!! I'd wondered about locking his door,we may have to try that for his own safety,I wasn't sure how he'd react if he tried to open it and couldn't. I've also heard of the melatonin. Can you get that in a regular pharmacy? How do you know how much to give a four year old?(He just turned four on the 11th of Aug.) Unfortunately Ethan has severe A-Topic Dermatitis and when he's broken out even plain water hurts him so I don't know if we should try the epsom salts...he also drinks the bath water..lol I don't know what brought on this night waking,he was sleeping so good once he got to sleep. Did you have trouble getting your son to sleep before starting the melatonin? Like I stated before,it takes us anywhere from fifteen minutes to

hours to get Ethan to sleep. Thanks again Kellie,I'm so glad I found this group. You may be hearing from me alot!! Debbie

From: Kellie <folkangel@...>Subject: Re: Night time wakingautism Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:01 PM

Hi Debbie,

Welcome to the group! My used to wake at night and it was not only dangerous but the lack of sleep really made him grumpy and reduced the progress he was making. We have tried many things over the years so I have a few suggestions you may want to try. For epsom salt baths work when he seems to be overly stressed out. We dissolve about 1 cup of epsom salts in hot water and add it to his bath. If your grandson likes to soak in the tub for awhile this may help him. You do have to make sure he doesn't drink a lot of it as it is a natural laxative but if he drinks his bath water ( did) some won't hurt him. We also give the time release form of Melatonin the regular kind doesn't last all night and he wakes around 2am but the time release form helps him sleep all night. The other thing we did was turn the door handle around on his door so the lock is on the outside not

inside. This way we could lock him in his room but open it easily. This only worked until he learned to open the lock with a hanger (watching us open the bathroom doors he like to lock when no one was in the room). It is scary when they get up at night and we all do so much better with a good nights sleep. Kellie

From: debbie582002 <debbie582002>AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comSent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:06:01 PMSubject: Night time waking

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying

there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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Debbie: A cheap way to know when he is leaving his room is to go to Wal-Mart and buy an alarm system for his door. There not expensive and there's a switch on top to turn it on and off. When you have it on and the door opens a loud noise goes off. We had these on our front and back doors until my son got smart. He started pulling a chair up to the door and turning the alarm off before he went outside. Eventually we had to get broadview to come and put an alarm system in our home. It's not to keep the burglar's out it's to keep my son in. My son is almost 7 and he still sleeps with us. Every time we tried breaking him something would happen. He had rsv twice, pneumonia, and he is asthmatic. We gave up. We ended up getting a king size bed for now..... I hope this helped. Gwen

autism From: debbie582002@...Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:06:01 +0000Subject: Night time waking

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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Debbie: A cheap way to know when he is leaving his room is to go to Wal-Mart and buy an alarm system for his door. There not expensive and there's a switch on top to turn it on and off. When you have it on and the door opens a loud noise goes off. We had these on our front and back doors until my son got smart. He started pulling a chair up to the door and turning the alarm off before he went outside. Eventually we had to get broadview to come and put an alarm system in our home. It's not to keep the burglar's out it's to keep my son in. My son is almost 7 and he still sleeps with us. Every time we tried breaking him something would happen. He had rsv twice, pneumonia, and he is asthmatic. We gave up. We ended up getting a king size bed for now..... I hope this helped. Gwen

autism From: debbie582002@...Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:06:01 +0000Subject: Night time waking

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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I had them put the alarm pad in my hallway closet so Caleb couldn't see it. I was afraid he would press the button for the police, ambulance, or fire department. Broadview really worked with me. Caleb is a runner. He would sneak outside and I wouldn't know he was out there. You can set the alarm during the day too. It doesn't have to be just at night. If the alarm goes off Broadview will call you. I just tell them it was my son with autism trying to go outside without my knowledge. I give them my password and they ignore the alarm. It has worked great for us. The alarm is really loud. Some insurance companies give you a 20% discount on your home owners for having an alarm system. I haven't looked into it yet but I'm hoping I can use it as a tax deduction. Debbie I haven't been with the group for long and yes I get a lot of helpful advice. Just wish I would have found them sooner. lol

autism From: debbie582002@...Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:50:14 -0700Subject: RE: Night time waking

Gwen,I've been concerned about the new house Ethan's parents are looking at because it's by HWY 59,one of the busiest in the country, so your suggestions about the alarms is priceless...since my daughter sleeps so soundly it would take something loud to wake her up to Ethan's night time prowling. He too will probably eventually figure out how to defeat them...if he sees you do something one time,especially if it's something you DON'T want him to do,he figures it out! We have door knob covers on our door knobs to the rooms we don't want him in and so far they have kept him out but they won't work for keeping him in. You have to keep one side free or it won't work but we don't have anything on his bedroom door. You guys are soooo helpful on here,thank you so much!

From: Gwen Hebert <gwenhebertlive>Subject: RE: Night time waking Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:40 PM

Debbie: A cheap way to know when he is leaving his room is to go to Wal-Mart and buy an alarm system for his door. There not expensive and there's a switch on top to turn it on and off. When you have it on and the door opens a loud noise goes off. We had these on our front and back doors until my son got smart. He started pulling a chair up to the door and turning the alarm off before he went outside. Eventually we had to get broadview to come and put an alarm system in our home. It's not to keep the burglar's out it's to keep my son in. My son is almost 7 and he still sleeps with us. Every time we tried breaking him something would happen. He had rsv twice, pneumonia, and he is asthmatic. We gave up. We ended up getting a king size bed for now..... I hope this helped. Gwen

AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comFrom: debbie582002Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:06:01 +0000Subject: Night time waking

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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Oh me too!! I have scoured the internet for information,talked to therapists and teachers,but haven't found anyone I can ask questions too who weren't afraid to give me advise without fear of breaking the rules they have to go by. Ethan's occupational therapist will go out of her way to tell me about things she's not "legally" allowed to,like getting one of those net swings that hang from an I bolt instead of spending hundreds of dollars on a "therapy swing" Ethan has sensory issues so we need to work around alot of things that make certain sounds or noises. I had to completely stop using my electric can opener,he just couldn't tolerate it at all!! Talk about meltdowns..oh my gosh. So I'm back to using a manual can opener and I don't mind it a bit. Are you on facebook or myspace? I could use some friends on there..lol..I send autism awareness

stuff to my friends on facebook and they just ignore it or don't accept it but send me stupid causes they want me to join! Take care and thank you again.

From: Gwen Hebert <gwenhebertlive (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Night time wakingautismbehaviorprobl emsgroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:40 PM

Debbie: A cheap way to know when he is leaving his room is to go to Wal-Mart and buy an alarm system for his door. There not expensive and there's a switch on top to turn it on and off. When you have it on and the door opens a loud noise goes off. We had these on our front and back doors until my son got smart. He started pulling a chair up to the door and turning the alarm off before he went outside. Eventually we had to get broadview to come and put an alarm system in our home. It's not to keep the burglar's out it's to keep my son in. My son is almost 7 and he still sleeps with us. Every time we tried breaking him something would happen. He had rsv twice, pneumonia, and he is asthmatic. We gave up. We ended up getting a king size bed for now..... I hope this helped. Gwen

AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comFrom: debbie582002Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:06:01 +0000Subject: Night time waking

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his

mom's bed and staying there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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jDebbie, don't worry about being long winded with this group. We are a warm,loving, and

caring group.

What you describe about your son is very typical behavior of many autistic kids at that

age. My grandson was a lot like that. We put locks on all the doors with the key above

each door frame. It worked very well for us. Our grandson is now 17 and that has not

been a problem for years.

You are in for an exciting roller coaster. Love and blessings, Pat K

Night time waking

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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Hi,A suggestion to think about. When our guy started waking up at night our naturopath suggested we try No-Phenol which is an enzyme that helps digest fruits and veggies. Some kids don't digest fruits completely and it gives them a gripe in their gut. It's not enough to make them sick, just enough to keep them from resting. It worked for us. We also do epsom salts and melatonin and they work wonderfully. From:

Kellie <folkangel@...>autism Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:01:26 PMSubject: Re: Night time waking

Hi Debbie,

Welcome to the group! My used to wake at night and it was not only dangerous but the lack of sleep really made him grumpy and reduced the progress he was making. We have tried many things over the years so I have a few suggestions you may want to try. For epsom salt baths work when he seems to be overly stressed out. We dissolve about 1 cup of epsom salts in hot water and add it to his bath. If your grandson likes to soak in the tub for awhile this may help him. You do have to make sure he doesn't drink a lot of it as it is a natural laxative but if he drinks his bath water ( did) some won't hurt him. We also give the time release form of Melatonin the regular kind doesn't last all night and he wakes around 2am but the time release form helps him sleep all night. The other thing we did was turn the door handle around on his door so the lock is on the outside not

inside. This way we could lock him in his room but open it easily. This only worked until he learned to open the lock with a hanger (watching us open the bathroom doors he like to lock when no one was in the room). It is scary when they get up at night and we all do so much better with a good nights sleep. Kellie

From: debbie582002 <debbie582002>AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comSent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:06:01 PMSubject: Night time waking

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying

there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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Debbie, many of us have had success with turning the doorknob on our child's bedroom door around so that we can engage the doorknob lock from the hallway side of the door. In addition, I know that it's pretty common to install a hook and eye or some other sort of lock on the outside of the bedroom door so that the child is unable to open the door from inside the room. We have both on Jake's room to ensure that he cannot sneak out while we sleep at night. We also installed additional locks on his window that require quite a bit of dexterity to open (you have to pinch while twisting at the same time...I can barely open them!) It's the only way to guarantee his safety and provide us with any peace of mind.

BTW, I'm on Facebook and would welcome you as a friend! You can find me as Judy Diane Acciarito, or let me know what name to look for you under and I'll send you a friend request. This applies to anybody else that uses Facebook as well! :o)

Love,

Judy (mom to , age 12, NT, and Jake, age 10.5, ASD)

www.bforbedlam.wordpress.com

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Oh me too!! I have scoured the internet for information,talked to therapists and teachers,but haven't found anyone I can ask questions too who weren't afraid to give me advise without fear of breaking the rules they have to go by. Ethan's occupational therapist will go out of her way to tell me about things she's not "legally" allowed to,like getting one of those net swings that hang from an I bolt instead of spending hundreds of dollars on a "therapy swing" Ethan has sensory issues so we need to work around alot of things that make certain sounds or noises. I had to completely stop using my electric can opener,he just couldn't tolerate it at all!! Talk about meltdowns..oh my gosh. So I'm back to using a manual can opener and I don't mind it a bit. Are you on facebook or myspace? I could use some friends on there..lol..I send autism awareness stuff to my friends on facebook and they just ignore it or don't accept it but send me stupid causes they want me to join! Take care and thank you again.

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another wonderful grandma :)

J

From: "pkuenstler@..." <pkuenstler@...>autism Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:28:46 PMSubject: Re: Night time waking

jDebbie, don't worry about being long winded with this group. We are a warm,loving, and

caring group.

What you describe about your son is very typical behavior of many autistic kids at that

age. My grandson was a lot like that. We put locks on all the doors with the key above

each door frame. It worked very well for us. Our grandson is now 17 and that has not

been a problem for years.

You are in for an exciting roller coaster. Love and blessings, Pat K Night time waking

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying

there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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You sound like a terrific Grammy! He is blessed to have you!

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From: Debbie Stringer <debbie582002@...>autism Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:26:06 PMSubject: RE: Night time waking

Oh me too!! I have scoured the internet for information, talked to therapists and teachers,but haven't found anyone I can ask questions too who weren't afraid to give me advise without fear of breaking the rules they have to go by. Ethan's occupational therapist will go out of her way to tell me about things she's not "legally" allowed to,like getting one of those net swings that hang from an I bolt instead of spending hundreds of dollars on a "therapy swing" Ethan has sensory issues so we need to work around alot of things that make certain sounds or noises. I had to completely stop using my electric can opener,he just couldn't tolerate it at all!! Talk about meltdowns..oh my gosh. So I'm back to using a manual can opener and I don't mind it a bit. Are you on facebook or myspace? I could use some friends on there..lol.. I send autism awareness stuff to my friends on facebook and they just ignore it or don't accept it but

send me stupid causes they want me to join! Take care and thank you again.

From: Gwen Hebert <gwenhebertlive (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Night time wakingautismbehaviorprobl emsgroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:40 PM

Debbie: A cheap way to know when he is leaving his room is to go to Wal-Mart and buy an alarm system for his door. There not expensive and there's a switch on top to turn it on and off. When you have it on and the door opens a loud noise goes off. We had these on our front and back doors until my son got smart. He started pulling a chair up to the door and turning the alarm off before he went outside. Eventually we had to get broadview to come and put an alarm system in our home. It's not to keep the burglar's out it's to keep my son in. My son is almost 7 and he still sleeps with us. Every time we tried breaking him something would happen. He had rsv twice, pneumonia, and he is asthmatic. We gave up. We ended up getting a king size bed for now..... I hope this helped. Gwen

AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comFrom: debbie582002Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:06:01 +0000Subject: Night time waking

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his

mom's bed and staying there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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> >>From: Gwen Hebert <gwenhebertlive (DOT) com>

> >>Subject: RE: Night time waking

> >>autismbehaviorprobl emsgroups (DOT) com

> >>Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:40 PM

> >>

> >>

> >> 

> >>Debbie:  A cheap way to know when he is leaving his room is to go to

Wal-Mart and buy an alarm system for his door.  There not expensive and there's

a switch on top to turn it on and off.  When you have it on and the door opens a

loud noise goes off.  We had these on our front and back doors until my son got

smart.  He started pulling a chair up to the door and turning the alarm off

before he went outside.  Eventually we had to get broadview to come and put an

alarm system in our home.  It's not to keep the burglar's out it's to keep my

son in.  My son is almost 7 and he still sleeps with us.  Every time we tried

breaking him something would happen.  He had rsv twice, pneumonia, and he is

asthmatic.  We gave up.  We ended up getting a king size bed for now.....  I

hope this helped.  Gwen 

> >> 

> >>________________________________

> AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) com

> >>From: debbie582002

> >>Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:06:01 +0000

> >>Subject: Night time waking

> >>

> >> 

> >>Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4

year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers

and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few

weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two

and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was

three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has

echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer

you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in

his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which

can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed

asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of

the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his

mom's bed and staying

> there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband

and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to

keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and

squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My

daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up

to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They

will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any

suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little

background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future!

Thanks,Debbie

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> Debbie, many of us have had success with turning the doorknob on our child's

bedroom door around so that we can engage the doorknob lock from the hallway

side of the door. In addition, I know that it's pretty common to install a hook

and eye or some other sort of lock on the outside of the bedroom door so that

the child is unable to open the door from inside the room. We have both on

Jake's room to ensure that he cannot sneak out while we sleep at night. We also

installed additional locks on his window that require quite a bit of dexterity

to open (you have to pinch while twisting at the same time...I can barely open

them!) It's the only way to guarantee his safety and provide us with any peace

of mind.

>

> BTW, I'm on Facebook and would welcome you as a friend! You can find me as

Judy Diane Acciarito, or let me know what name to look for you under and I'll

send you a friend request. This applies to anybody else that uses Facebook as

well! :o)

>

> Love,

> Judy (mom to , age 12, NT, and Jake, age 10.5, ASD)

> www.bforbedlam.wordpress.com

> RE: Night time waking

>

>

>

>

> Oh me too!! I have scoured the internet for information,talked to

therapists and teachers,but haven't found anyone I can ask questions too who

weren't afraid to give me advise without fear of breaking the rules they have to

go by. Ethan's occupational therapist will go out of her way to tell me about

things she's not " legally " allowed to,like getting one of those net swings that

hang from an I bolt instead of spending hundreds of dollars on a " therapy swing "

Ethan has sensory issues so we need to work around alot of things that make

certain sounds or noises. I had to completely stop using my electric can

opener,he just couldn't tolerate it at all!! Talk about meltdowns..oh my gosh.

So I'm back to using a manual can opener and I don't mind it a bit. Are you on

facebook or myspace? I could use some friends on there..lol..I send autism

awareness stuff to my friends on facebook and they just ignore it or don't

accept it but send me stupid causes they want me to join! Take care and thank

you again.

>

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> Debbie, many of us have had success with turning the doorknob on our child's

bedroom door around so that we can engage the doorknob lock from the hallway

side of the door. In addition, I know that it's pretty common to install a hook

and eye or some other sort of lock on the outside of the bedroom door so that

the child is unable to open the door from inside the room. We have both on

Jake's room to ensure that he cannot sneak out while we sleep at night. We also

installed additional locks on his window that require quite a bit of dexterity

to open (you have to pinch while twisting at the same time...I can barely open

them!) It's the only way to guarantee his safety and provide us with any peace

of mind.

>

> BTW, I'm on Facebook and would welcome you as a friend! You can find me as

Judy Diane Acciarito, or let me know what name to look for you under and I'll

send you a friend request. This applies to anybody else that uses Facebook as

well! :o)

>

> Love,

> Judy (mom to , age 12, NT, and Jake, age 10.5, ASD)

> www.bforbedlam.wordpress.com

> RE: Night time waking

>

>

>

>

> Oh me too!! I have scoured the internet for information,talked to

therapists and teachers,but haven't found anyone I can ask questions too who

weren't afraid to give me advise without fear of breaking the rules they have to

go by. Ethan's occupational therapist will go out of her way to tell me about

things she's not " legally " allowed to,like getting one of those net swings that

hang from an I bolt instead of spending hundreds of dollars on a " therapy swing "

Ethan has sensory issues so we need to work around alot of things that make

certain sounds or noises. I had to completely stop using my electric can

opener,he just couldn't tolerate it at all!! Talk about meltdowns..oh my gosh.

So I'm back to using a manual can opener and I don't mind it a bit. Are you on

facebook or myspace? I could use some friends on there..lol..I send autism

awareness stuff to my friends on facebook and they just ignore it or don't

accept it but send me stupid causes they want me to join! Take care and thank

you again.

>

Thank you Judy,I think we will try the hook and eye because there are no locks

on his door. I will most definately be sending you a Facebook friends request

and if anyone else would like to send me one too look me up as Debbie

Stringer,I will certainly accept every request I get! Thank you! Debbie

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My son is on Clonidine to he was taken a half but was still wakeing up crying and grinding his teeth so the Dr put him on a whole but he still wakes up crying and grinding his teeth so does it sound like we should try something else??? Man I have so many questions that need answered that I need to start writing them down just being on here for the first time it makes me feel good to see that it's not only my son going through this and that it's not me going crazy. Just what to say Thanks to everyone who has tried to help with on suggestions of what to do from the bottom of my heart THANK YOU!!!!

From: Holly <holls2367@...>autism Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:36:44 PMSubject: Re: Night time waking

Our son is on CLONIDINE. It gets him to sleep at night but there are many time that he will wake up at night and come into our room or wander around. We have a trained dog that will only bark when our son gets out of bed. so that always wakes me up. We also have found that using a weighted blanket helps alot and keeps him in bed, but since it is so hot in the summer we can not use it and notice a huge difference in how much he gets up during the night.

From: debbie582002 <debbie582002>Subject: Night time wakingAutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 2:06 PM

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying

there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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awww Debbie -- so glad you found us too :) Pat K is such a wonderful grandmother, and I know she will relate to everything you just said. :) Yes I can understand that some kids just hold on to that special place for whatever reason....I get it. It's normal!!!! lol

Welcome again...I have a little one (will be 3 in Oct. so I'm good for the sensory stuff, and some of the behavior stuff, life self injury etc; other than that, I'm not of much help with the older kiddos!!! Hope you find all that you need here!

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> >> >> >>From: Gwen Hebert <gwenhebert@ live. com>> >>Subject: RE: Night time waking> >>autismbehaviorprobl emsgroups (DOT) com> >>Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:40 PM> >>> >>> >> >

>>Debbie: A cheap way to know when he is leaving his room is to go to Wal-Mart and buy an alarm system for his door. There not expensive and there's a switch on top to turn it on and off. When you have it on and the door opens a loud noise goes off. We had these on our front and back doors until my son got smart. He started pulling a chair up to the door and turning the alarm off before he went outside. Eventually we had to get broadview to come and put an alarm system in our home. It's not to keep the burglar's out it's to keep my son in. My son is almost 7 and he still sleeps with us. Every time we tried breaking him something would happen. He had rsv twice, pneumonia, and he is asthmatic. We gave up. We ended up getting a king size bed for now..... I hope this helped. Gwen > >> > >>__________

_________ _________ ____> AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) com> >>From: debbie582002> >>Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:06:01 +0000> >>Subject: Night time waking> >>> >> > >>Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with

him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying> there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long

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You may want to look into some type of music therapy. We have had nothing but

problems trying to get our son to sleep alone and by in his own bed. As soon as

we started music therapy it all changed. We do his therapy twice a day and then

at night put one of the cd's in a cd player and let him listen to it while he is

trying to fall asleep. It works wonders for our son. We didn't think it would

work until we tried it. Just a thought.

ka

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what kind of music, or is there a cd called music therapy?

From: erickam77 <erickam77@...>autism Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:04:08 PMSubject: Re: Night time waking

You may want to look into some type of music therapy. We have had nothing but problems trying to get our son to sleep alone and by in his own bed. As soon as we started music therapy it all changed. We do his therapy twice a day and then at night put one of the cd's in a cd player and let him listen to it while he is trying to fall asleep. It works wonders for our son. We didn't think it would work until we tried it. Just a thought.ka>> Welcome Debbie...> > e> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: debbie582002 <debbie582002@ ...>> AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) com> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:06:01 PM> Subject: Night time waking> > > .>

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We have a window air conditioner in Karac's room and I turn it on high at

night; so he can sleep under heavy covers year around, and it works. Pat K

Night time waking

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Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 2:06 PM

Hi everyone,This is my first post so please be patient with me! I have a 4 year old grandson who has not been formally diagnosed yet but all his teachers and therapists are positive he has autism,should be diagnosed in the next few weeks. He has been recieving speech and occupational therapy since he was two and has been in the early childhood classes at the public school since he was three. He's making lots of progress in some areas,not so much in others. He has echoalia and can repeat lots of dialog from his favorite videos but won't answer you if you ask him his name. Just repeats the question. We had him sleeping in his own bed although we have to lay down with him till he goes to sleep,which can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to hours! But once asleep he stayed asleep....till now. He has all of a sudden started getting up in the middle of the night and wandering around the house...most times ending up crawling in his mom's bed and staying there for the rest of the night.(They are currently living with my husband and I). Has anyone else had this kind of problem and if so what can we do to keep him in his room?? I worry about his safety as he likes to open drawers and squeeze in behind the livingroom furniture,where the electric cords are at. My daughter is a heavy sleeper and she doesn't hear him when he gets up. I wake up to the pitter patter of his feet running around the kitchen and livingroom! They will be moving out soon so I'm really concerned that he could get hurt. Any suggestions? Sorry this is so long,I just thought I should give you a little background on Ethan,I'll try not to be so long winded in the future! Thanks,Debbie

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Debbie,

My daughter started having sleeping issues very early and they seemed to be

related to how uncomfortable she was with severe ear pain from chronic ear

infections. We tried the Ferber Method, but it was absolute child cruelty and

did not work on her (we did it as it was directed). She was never really an

" escapee " , but she could not fall asleep without having someone touching her and

hearing noise. We finally started allowing her to sleep in our bed between us so

she finally started to sleep better and we finally started to sleep at night!

She needed to feel pressure (us laying next to her) and hear noise (our snoring

and breathing) in order to fall asleep. Finally, either my husband or I would

lay down next to her in her bed (easier said than done in a twin bed) and we

would put on a sound machine with whichever noise suited her (usually crickets

chirping) and let it play all night. We would escape after she fell asleep

(usually 30 - 90 minutes) and that began to be unbearable, so we finally gave in

and let her sleep with us again. We found also that she needed to eat right

before she went to sleep because if she didn't, she would wake up around 3:30 AM

and was out of control from low blood sugar (we discovered that she had

hypoglycemia). She didn't know what was causing her to be awake, agitated, and

out of control, but we would feed her and she would settle down and sleep

through the rest of the night.

She is now 12 and she gave herself a target to start sleeping in her own bed by

herself by her 12th birthday, so she did it! She still sometimes wakes up and

gets scared, so she may climb back into bed with us, but she is doing remarkably

well.

Welcome.

Dawn S.

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Dawn,

Hello my name is Lucy, I just joined your group. Your post caught my attenion- for how your daughter use to act sounds so much like my son ny (who is 6 and autistic) in some nights. He gets up @ 3-4. I feed him, and wrap him in a heavy blanket and turn the bathroom fan on, usually he goes back to sleep, but sometimes he does not. What is hypoglycemia? Any other suggestions please let me know. Thanks

Lucy

From: dawnschaller <dschaller1@...>autism Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 2:22:31 AMSubject: Re: Night time waking

Debbie,My daughter started having sleeping issues very early and they seemed to be related to how uncomfortable she was with severe ear pain from chronic ear infections. We tried the Ferber Method, but it was absolute child cruelty and did not work on her (we did it as it was directed). She was never really an "escapee", but she could not fall asleep without having someone touching her and hearing noise. We finally started allowing her to sleep in our bed between us so she finally started to sleep better and we finally started to sleep at night! She needed to feel pressure (us laying next to her) and hear noise (our snoring and breathing) in order to fall asleep. Finally, either my husband or I would lay down next to her in her bed (easier said than done in a twin bed) and we would put on a sound machine with whichever noise suited her (usually crickets chirping) and let it play all night. We would escape after she fell asleep (usually 30 - 90

minutes) and that began to be unbearable, so we finally gave in and let her sleep with us again. We found also that she needed to eat right before she went to sleep because if she didn't, she would wake up around 3:30 AM and was out of control from low blood sugar (we discovered that she had hypoglycemia) . She didn't know what was causing her to be awake, agitated, and out of control, but we would feed her and she would settle down and sleep through the rest of the night. She is now 12 and she gave herself a target to start sleeping in her own bed by herself by her 12th birthday, so she did it! She still sometimes wakes up and gets scared, so she may climb back into bed with us, but she is doing remarkably well.Welcome.Dawn S.

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