Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Dear Duncan, That is what I had believed, but I am unable to find anything published on this, and so cannot defend the idea. We have dealt with a lot of people with mercury in their systems, (including my wife) with excellent results, but still cannot say what is happening in vivo with the mercury. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----Original Message Follows---- From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: Re: Re: Protocol for Herpes or Lyme Disease/mercury Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:47:09 -0800 > > bryan, i am in the same situation as you and wont do too much > ozone because it stirs up mercury > > try the herb marigold for mercury symptoms, works well for me Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the ozone oxidize the mercury and make it into a relatively stable compound compared to the methyl form? Duncan Crow OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Dear Moria, --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ - From the Department of Energy: http://www.netl.doe.gov/coalpower/environment/mercury/pubs/IEC99.PDF " Ozone is a powerful oxidizer that can rapidly react with elemental mercury to form mercuric oxide. " " Mercuric oxide, associated with fine particulates, has been detected in the tropopause, and is speculated to form by oxidation of elemental mercury by ozone [in the atmosphere]. " --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------- From http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20030201/bob8.asp " Mercury taints the atmosphere worldwide, but there are large variations in how much of it drops onto land or water at any location. Recent experiments have begun identifying oxidizing gases, such as ozone....as triggers for that mercury fallout. " " Mercury enters the air easily. It's released when coal is burned, gold is mined, some chlorine is manufactured, and even when a fluorescent lightbulb breaks. Some 99 percent of the airborne metal is elemental. Fairly insoluble and unreactive in this form, it can circumnavigate the globe for up to 2 years. When elemental mercury encounters certain oxidants, it changes into so-called reactive gaseous mercury. Unlike the element, this form is both highly reactive and water soluble, so it remains airborne only hours and falls—in rain or snow or attached to dust—near where it's formed. In a lake or ocean, bacteria transform it into methylmercury, the harmful form of the metal that fish and, in turn, people and other predators accumulate in their tissues. " " ...sunlight activates certain airborne halogen compounds to convert elemental mercury to reactive gaseous mercury. If the main source of the halogens reacting with elemental mercury is sea spray, this mechanism might increase concentrations of the metal in the water of warm coastal areas. " " ...ozone and several other compounds carried in air appear to directly oxidize elemental mercury. " ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dar/boss/darmercury.html " The majority of mercury in the atmosphere is in the form of gaseous elemental mercury, Hg(0). This form of mercury can travel long distances in the atmosphere for many months. Some Hg(0) is converted into 2 other forms of mercury: >a more water soluble form of mercury, divalent or oxidized mercury, Hg (II) >it can bind with particulate matter or aerosols to form particulate >mercury, Hg(p) These two forms of mercury are rapidly removed from the atmosphere in precipitation and fall onto land and into waterbodies, including the ocean. In a waterbody and in the sediments of the waterbody mercury may be converted by bacterial action into an organic form, methylmercury, CH3Hg. Acidic conditions and elevated ozone levels are believed to promote this conversion. Methylmercury can bioaccumulate up the food chain as a result of the ingestion of the contaminated aquatic organisms. Large fish and aquatic mammals at the top of the food chain may contain dangerously high levels of methylmercury. Methylmercury can travel across the placenta and accumulate in the fetal brain. It can also be found in breast milk. In the embryo/fetus and in young children, methylmercury has been shown to inhibit the normal development of the nervous system and produce generalized lesions throughout the brain. Lower levels of exposure may not be apparent until later when the child's motor and verbal skills may be delayed or abnormal. EPA has estimated that 8% of women of childbearing age in the general U.S. population have blood levels of mercury higher than the EPA's reference level for mercury. In adults, methylmercury concentrates in the kidneys, liver and brain. Nephritis, as well as neurological and cardiovascular effects, may result in adults. Neurodevelopmental deficits are the most sensitive and well-documented health effects. Methylmercury is slowly eliminated from the body. " --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ --------------------- http://www.konetic.or.kr/koneticreport/analreport/a1aa29/003_113.htm " ...ozone oxidations of all types of organic and organometallic solutes can be initiated by hydoxyl radicals which are formed when ozone decomposes to free radicals. " " ...oxidation of methylmercury compounds is initiated only by the OH radical type mechanism. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ----------------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " moriamerri " <moriam@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: Plugged liver [update] Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 07:10:58 -0000 Hello Sherri-Lee, If you are aware of any source of information that would explain or verify how ozone can OXIDIZE mercury, could you please post more about it. good wishes, Moria OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. 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Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Saul, One connection I've never been able to make is the connection between oxidation and elimination. Oxidation changes the form (into something like HgO2 I guess?), but are all oxidized substances eliminated? Maybe you can shed some light on the biological processes that recognize oxidated vs non oxidated toxins. It is particularly confusing because, for example, some of the magnesium I take is magnesium oxide which I would assume to be the same chemical as oxidated magnesium, and yet this substance is apparently not sent to elimination pathways. Thoughts? thanks brian > Dear Moria, > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- > From the Department of Energy: > > http://www.netl.doe.gov/coalpower/environment/mercury/pubs/IEC99.PDF > > " Ozone is a powerful oxidizer that can rapidly react with elemental mercury > to form mercuric oxide. " > > " Mercuric oxide, associated with fine particulates, has been detected in the > tropopause, > and is speculated to form by oxidation of elemental mercury by ozone [in the > atmosphere]. " > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- > > From http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20030201/bob8.asp > > " Mercury taints the atmosphere worldwide, but there are large variations in > how much of it drops onto land or water at any location. Recent experiments > have begun identifying oxidizing gases, such as ozone....as triggers for > that mercury fallout. " > > " Mercury enters the air easily. It's released when coal is burned, gold is > mined, some chlorine is manufactured, and even when a fluorescent lightbulb > breaks. Some 99 percent of the airborne metal is elemental. Fairly insoluble > and unreactive in this form, it can circumnavigate the globe for up to 2 > years. When elemental mercury encounters certain oxidants, it changes into > so-called reactive gaseous mercury. Unlike the element, this form is both > highly reactive and water soluble, so it remains airborne only hours and > falls—in rain or snow or attached to dust—near where it's formed. In a lake > or ocean, bacteria transform it into methylmercury, the harmful form of the > metal that fish and, in turn, people and other predators accumulate in their > tissues. " > > " ...sunlight activates certain airborne halogen compounds to convert > elemental mercury to reactive gaseous mercury. If the main source of the > halogens reacting with elemental mercury is sea spray, this mechanism might > increase concentrations of the metal in the water of warm coastal areas. " > > " ...ozone and several other compounds carried in air appear to directly > oxidize elemental mercury. " > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dar/boss/darmercury.html > > " The majority of mercury in the atmosphere is in the form of gaseous > elemental mercury, Hg(0). This form of mercury can travel long distances in > the atmosphere for many months. > Some Hg(0) is converted into 2 other forms of mercury: > >a more water soluble form of mercury, divalent or oxidized mercury, Hg (II) > >it can bind with particulate matter or aerosols to form particulate > >mercury, Hg(p) > > These two forms of mercury are rapidly removed from the atmosphere in > precipitation and fall onto land and into waterbodies, including the ocean. > In a waterbody and in the sediments of the waterbody mercury may be > converted by bacterial action into an organic form, methylmercury, CH3Hg. > Acidic conditions and elevated ozone levels are believed to promote this > conversion. > > Methylmercury can bioaccumulate up the food chain as a result of the > ingestion of the contaminated aquatic organisms. Large fish and aquatic > mammals at the top of the food chain may contain dangerously high levels of > methylmercury. > > Methylmercury can travel across the placenta and accumulate in the fetal > brain. It can also be found in breast milk. In the embryo/fetus and in young > children, methylmercury has been shown to inhibit the normal development of > the nervous system and produce generalized lesions throughout the brain. > Lower levels of exposure may not be apparent until later when the child's > motor and verbal skills may be delayed or abnormal. EPA has estimated that > 8% of women of childbearing age in the general U.S. population have blood > levels of mercury higher than the EPA's reference level for mercury. > > In adults, methylmercury concentrates in the kidneys, liver and brain. > Nephritis, as well as neurological and cardiovascular effects, may result in > adults. Neurodevelopmental deficits are the most sensitive and > well-documented health effects. > > Methylmercury is slowly eliminated from the body. " > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > > http://www.konetic.or.kr/koneticreport/analreport/a1aa29/003_113.htm > > " ...ozone oxidations of all types of organic and organometallic solutes can > be initiated by hydoxyl radicals which are formed when ozone decomposes to > free radicals. " > > " ...oxidation of methylmercury compounds is initiated only by the OH radical > type mechanism. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: " moriamerri " <moriam@e...> > Reply-oxyplus > oxyplus > Subject: Re: Plugged liver [update] > Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 07:10:58 -0000 > > Hello Sherri-Lee, > > If you are aware of any source of information that would > explain or verify how ozone can OXIDIZE mercury, could you > please post more about it. > > good wishes, > Moria > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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