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Bonnie - My son also had NEW negative behavior while on Prozac. Actually,

it occurred about six weeks in while trying to get the dose up. The behavior

was so out of character for him and actually was very scary. He was weaned

off the Prozac and then started Zoloft. We haven't had any problems since

then. The Zoloft works wonderfully.

In a message dated 7/26/2005 6:37:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

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My son takes prozac and I have noticed some new negative behavior

(provocative and defiant). What did your psychiatrist prescribe

instead of Prozac?

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My son takes prozac and I have noticed some new negative behavior

(provocative and defiant). What did your psychiatrist prescribe

instead of Prozac? My psychiatrist mentioned the risk of suicide with

Paxil and the side effect probability with other drugs as the reason

for Prozac.

Bonnie

> Hi nne,

> Oh yes - we've definitely done this one!! My almost 13 yr. old

has had

> this obsession for years. Her main OCD obsession has always been

about throwing

> up (since she was 4). For the past five years or so, until sometime

this past

> year, she hasn't been able to comfortably eat in any kind of restaurant

> because she claims that she feels sick. She was often able to eat,

but the minute

> she finished, she turned white and pasty and panicked. It ruined

many, many

> meals for the rest of the family. We still don't even try to eat at

nice

> restaurants, since one of us usually has to take her outside before

anyone else is

> ready to leave. But, as I said, sometime this year she has largely

gotten over

> this and can eat in casual restaurants most of the time. I don't

even know why,

> since we didn't work much on it (we don't eat out much anyway).

> As with any obsession, the way to overcome it is by very gradual

> exposure. Explain to her what is going on, and work on eating at

fast food places (by

> nature, quick and easy) and stick to one small item (a shake or a

small salad

> or something). When that seems easier and she seems ready, move on to a

> slightly extended stay. She will have to stay in the restaurant

until the fear

> subsides and she realizes that she isn't sick.

> We got dissolving tablets of Clonidine from our child psych.

which we

> used to stop the panic attacks in restaurants for a while. They

helped quite a

> bit, but I think it was largely psychological (which she admitted -

she even

> suggested we substitute a different dissolving tablet to her and see

if it helped

> just as well). Eventually just having them with us was reassuring

enough for

> her. She quit taking them after a while because she felt that she

could deal

> with the panic herself just as well. It might be worth trying while

on vacation

> though (that's what we originally got the pills for, if I remember

> correctly).

> Vacations are tough. Kids with OCD tend to find any change hard

to deal

> with, so vacations are high on the list of anxiety producers. We

have had many

> tough times over the years with this. My daughter has been in

therapy and on

> medication for years, and I have to say, we haven't spent much time

on her OCD

> in recent years. Nevertheless, her symptoms are nearly gone. She

recently went

> on a long camping trip and had no problems (except one or two brief

> restaurant panics) and she eats out with me pretty often. So hang in

there - exposure

> and response prevention is proven to work well on OCD, and

medications help

> many children lead normal lives. If you are still considering

medication, don't

> give up because Prozac didn't work. It is known to be more likely to

cause

> manic behavior in children than most of the other drugs in that

class (two of the

> child psychiatrists we have worked with won't use it in children

without

> trying all the other antidepressants first, for that very reason). A

different

> medication may work wonders for your daughter.

> Best wishes to you,

> in NV

>

>

>

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Just wanted to add that overall he is better, and I am not sure that

his irritability is from meds or from dealing with is OCD so long.

> > Hi nne,

> > Oh yes - we've definitely done this one!! My almost 13 yr. old

> has had

> > this obsession for years. Her main OCD obsession has always been

> about throwing

> > up (since she was 4). For the past five years or so, until sometime

> this past

> > year, she hasn't been able to comfortably eat in any kind of

restaurant

> > because she claims that she feels sick. She was often able to eat,

> but the minute

> > she finished, she turned white and pasty and panicked. It ruined

> many, many

> > meals for the rest of the family. We still don't even try to eat at

> nice

> > restaurants, since one of us usually has to take her outside before

> anyone else is

> > ready to leave. But, as I said, sometime this year she has largely

> gotten over

> > this and can eat in casual restaurants most of the time. I don't

> even know why,

> > since we didn't work much on it (we don't eat out much anyway).

> > As with any obsession, the way to overcome it is by very gradual

> > exposure. Explain to her what is going on, and work on eating at

> fast food places (by

> > nature, quick and easy) and stick to one small item (a shake or a

> small salad

> > or something). When that seems easier and she seems ready, move on

to a

> > slightly extended stay. She will have to stay in the restaurant

> until the fear

> > subsides and she realizes that she isn't sick.

> > We got dissolving tablets of Clonidine from our child psych.

> which we

> > used to stop the panic attacks in restaurants for a while. They

> helped quite a

> > bit, but I think it was largely psychological (which she admitted -

> she even

> > suggested we substitute a different dissolving tablet to her and see

> if it helped

> > just as well). Eventually just having them with us was reassuring

> enough for

> > her. She quit taking them after a while because she felt that she

> could deal

> > with the panic herself just as well. It might be worth trying while

> on vacation

> > though (that's what we originally got the pills for, if I remember

> > correctly).

> > Vacations are tough. Kids with OCD tend to find any change hard

> to deal

> > with, so vacations are high on the list of anxiety producers. We

> have had many

> > tough times over the years with this. My daughter has been in

> therapy and on

> > medication for years, and I have to say, we haven't spent much time

> on her OCD

> > in recent years. Nevertheless, her symptoms are nearly gone. She

> recently went

> > on a long camping trip and had no problems (except one or two brief

> > restaurant panics) and she eats out with me pretty often. So hang in

> there - exposure

> > and response prevention is proven to work well on OCD, and

> medications help

> > many children lead normal lives. If you are still considering

> medication, don't

> > give up because Prozac didn't work. It is known to be more likely to

> cause

> > manic behavior in children than most of the other drugs in that

> class (two of the

> > child psychiatrists we have worked with won't use it in children

> without

> > trying all the other antidepressants first, for that very reason). A

> different

> > medication may work wonders for your daughter.

> > Best wishes to you,

> > in NV

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Bonnie,

We started with Paxil for a year (this was 5 years ago) and then she took

Luvox for a while. She later took Celexa, and has now been on Lexapro for a

couple of years. She only had side effects with Luvox (behavioral side

effects). All the others worked miracles for her.

Emiliy

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Hi again Bonnie,

I should add that behavioral side effects that are medication related

generally appear when the medication is first started or when the dose is

increased. Behavior of the kind you are worried about (negative or impulsive

behavior) that appears when you haven't changed the medication is unlikely to be

from

that drug, although it is probably possible. Most behavioral side effects

appear pretty quickly after starting a drug, or after raising the dose.

Sometimes

they disappear after a time, but waiting it out can be risky. My daughter

became very impulsive and defiant on Luvox and I didn't link it to the drug for

quite a while. Dumb me. After she climbed out onto the roof " for fun " we

switched her to Celexa and she has been fine ever since.

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Thanks for the information!

Bonnie

> Hi again Bonnie,

> I should add that behavioral side effects that are medication

related

> generally appear when the medication is first started or when the

dose is

> increased. Behavior of the kind you are worried about (negative or

impulsive

> behavior) that appears when you haven't changed the medication is

unlikely to be from

> that drug, although it is probably possible. Most behavioral side

effects

> appear pretty quickly after starting a drug, or after raising the

dose. Sometimes

> they disappear after a time, but waiting it out can be risky. My

daughter

> became very impulsive and defiant on Luvox and I didn't link it to

the drug for

> quite a while. Dumb me. After she climbed out onto the roof " for

fun " we

> switched her to Celexa and she has been fine ever since.

>

>

>

>

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Your information is very helpful

Thanks,

Bonnie

> Hi Bonnie,

> We started with Paxil for a year (this was 5 years ago) and then

she took

> Luvox for a while. She later took Celexa, and has now been on

Lexapro for a

> couple of years. She only had side effects with Luvox (behavioral side

> effects). All the others worked miracles for her.

> Emiliy

>

>

>

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--WE added luvox to her already taking paxil and she started talked

about murder and had SEVERE depression and is just 8. took her off

the luvox and raise the paxil and shes doing much better- In

, Nchaotic@a... wrote:

>

> Bonnie - My son also had NEW negative behavior while on Prozac.

Actually,

> it occurred about six weeks in while trying to get the dose up.

The behavior

> was so out of character for him and actually was very scary. He

was weaned

> off the Prozac and then started Zoloft. We haven't had any

problems since

> then. The Zoloft works wonderfully.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 7/26/2005 6:37:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> rnmomo2@y... writes:

>

> My son takes prozac and I have noticed some new negative behavior

> (provocative and defiant). What did your psychiatrist prescribe

> instead of Prozac?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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-when my daughter was put on paxil she had bse bad and everytime

they raised dose but it settled down. it is scary though going

through it-- In , efowle@a... wrote:

> Hi again Bonnie,

> I should add that behavioral side effects that are medication

related

> generally appear when the medication is first started or when the

dose is

> increased. Behavior of the kind you are worried about (negative or

impulsive

> behavior) that appears when you haven't changed the medication is

unlikely to be from

> that drug, although it is probably possible. Most behavioral side

effects

> appear pretty quickly after starting a drug, or after raising the

dose. Sometimes

> they disappear after a time, but waiting it out can be risky. My

daughter

> became very impulsive and defiant on Luvox and I didn't link it to

the drug for

> quite a while. Dumb me. After she climbed out onto the roof " for

fun " we

> switched her to Celexa and she has been fine ever since.

>

>

>

>

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