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Hi........I was wondering what concentration of ozone is possible using air as a

feed......this is ok for olive oil and water ozonating right?.......[using

corona].....does anyone know what concentration is possible using

air?..thanks.......Robb

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Air is only 20% oxygen. The generator will only be able to create ozone

from the 20% oxygen content. The concentration of ozone will depend on

the generator. Don't use an air fed generator for internal body

use...use an oxygen fed machine for that.

Dennis

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>Hi........I was wondering what concentration of ozone is possible using air as

a feed......this is ok for olive oil and water ozonating right?.......[using

corona].....does anyone know what concentration is possible using

air?..thanks.......Robb

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Dear Gail,

The concentration is one important parameter.

20 ug/ml is the accepted threshold of efficacy.

70 ug/ml is the accepted level of safety.

Any concentration between these levels will be in the window of

therapeutic effect.

And the best response of the immune system is at the level of

45 - 55 ug/ml.

Time is equally important as parameter of efficacy.

Remember the CT value, the measure of oxidative work done.

It is the product of concentration x time.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Subject: Re: Rant and run

Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 04:16:36 -0000

Hi Saul,

Thank you for the explanation. I have a question, tho, if you don't

mind. Tim said something about the concentration being so

important. Could you explain a little about that as I know nothing

about concentration. I don't even see it on any of the equipment I

have of yours.

Also, would it be ok to take some benadryl or would that be counter

productive?

Thanks,

Gail

> Dear Oxyplus Listmembers,

>

> Yesterday a post came through from Tim that you may have seen.

>

> It was filled with innuendo, unsubstantiated accusations and

misinformation.

> Not enough information was posted to allow a defence, or to check

on the

> reality of the charges. It was just character assassination with

the

> secondary

> aim of promoting a bogus training course.

>

> Immediately after posting it, Tim went to " NO EMAIL " .

>

> Jim told me that " rant and run " types have no credibility and

deserve

> banning,

> and I have done so.

>

> I don't consider it worth any of our time, so let's just ignore it

the way

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> when spammers break through.

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Dear Tom,

Singlet Oxygen, O1, has a higher oxidation potential than ozone and

Hydroxyl, OH, has a higher oxidation potential than that.

Hydroxyl is too powerful to use, except for industrial processes. There is a

patented process called Peroxone, which uses ozonation of hydrogen peroxide

to produce hydroxyl. This process is used by Los Angeles in their water

treatment plant. Do NOT try this at home.

O4 is two O2 molecules stuck together. They have no more energy than

if they were not stuck together. (So much for Aran).

O8 is four O2 molecules. Nothing special there either.

It is the O5 molecule, the O6 (O3 + O3), the O7 and the O9 molecule that

would be of interest. The odd numbered one is where the added energy is.

It is actually the singlet oxygen that breaks off from ozone

O3 that does the work. The other part of O3 is just O2.

O3 => O2 + O1

There is gas mass spectrometer proof that heavier species exist (such as

O6).

There is no proof that this is of any importance.

The CONCENTRATION is what is relevant.

Too little is ineffective.

Too much is immune suppressive.

Our medical window is 20 - 75 ug/ml.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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----Original Message Follows----

From: " Tom Harrelson " <tharrels1@...>

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oxyplus

Subject: Re: Does ozone get rid of fluoride in water?

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:13:18 -0000

Hi Donna! I looked at ALL of my online References and I couldn't

find the Fact that Ozone (O3) NEUTRALIZES Flourides! It's probably

because Flourine, being a Component of Fluoride Compounds, has a

HIGHER Oxidant Potential Voltage, than Ozone has (see chart below).

The Polyatomic Molecules of Oxygen (O4 to O8), and NOT Ozone (O3),

which are generated in a " Cold Plasma " Electrical Field have MANY

MORE Electrons AVAILABLE than Ozone and so their Oxidant Potential

Voltage should DEFINITELY be HIGHER than Ozone and may even be HIGHER

than Fluorine.

I posted the following Chart a few years, while I was doing Research

for my various Ozone Fact Sheets, but I wasn't ABLE to find the

Oxidant Potential Voltage for O4, let alone O5, O6, O7 and/or O8. I

did find 2 other Molecules (atomic oxygen - O1 & hydroxyl radical -

OH), which have a HIGHER Oxidant Potential Voltage than Ozone (see

chart below). I was SURPRISED to learn, after I did my Research,

that MANY Websites, Ozone Organizations and Ozone Generator

Manufacturers CLAIM that Ozone has the next HIGHEST Oxidant Potential

Voltage to Fluorine, when in fact, these two other Molecules have a

HIGHER Oxidant Potential Voltage than Ozone (O3)!

http://healingtools.tripod.com/ofs2h.html

http://healingtools.tripod.com/OT_pages.html#ofs

I'm NOW wondering, does Saul or ANYONE know the Oxidant Potential

Voltages of the Polyatomic Oxygen Molecules - O4 to O8?

" THANKS " for your " SHOCKED " Post! LOL

Tom/Psa. 103:1-5.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Well I am shocked. I had read that ozone got rid of flouride. I

> believe it was in Ed McCabes book. Ugh.

> Donna

> http://www.excellentthings.com

>

> Saul Pressman wrote:

>

> >Dear Nenah,

> >

> >I looked for the answer to this question a number of years ago and

couldn't

> >get it.

> >I still do not have an answer in the positive, so my assumption is

that

> >ozone does

> >not remove fluoride from water.

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Dear Tom,

Singlet Oxygen, O1, has a higher oxidation potential than ozone and

Hydroxyl, OH, has a higher oxidation potential than that.

Hydroxyl is too powerful to use, except for industrial processes. There is a

patented process called Peroxone, which uses ozonation of hydrogen peroxide

to produce hydroxyl. This process is used by Los Angeles in their water

treatment plant. Do NOT try this at home.

O4 is two O2 molecules stuck together. They have no more energy than

if they were not stuck together. (So much for Aran).

O8 is four O2 molecules. Nothing special there either.

It is the O5 molecule, the O6 (O3 + O3), the O7 and the O9 molecule that

would be of interest. The odd numbered one is where the added energy is.

It is actually the singlet oxygen that breaks off from ozone

O3 that does the work. The other part of O3 is just O2.

O3 => O2 + O1

There is gas mass spectrometer proof that heavier species exist (such as

O6).

There is no proof that this is of any importance.

The CONCENTRATION is what is relevant.

Too little is ineffective.

Too much is immune suppressive.

Our medical window is 20 - 75 ug/ml.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\

-------

----Original Message Follows----

From: " Tom Harrelson " <tharrels1@...>

Reply-oxyplus

oxyplus

Subject: Re: Does ozone get rid of fluoride in water?

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:13:18 -0000

Hi Donna! I looked at ALL of my online References and I couldn't

find the Fact that Ozone (O3) NEUTRALIZES Flourides! It's probably

because Flourine, being a Component of Fluoride Compounds, has a

HIGHER Oxidant Potential Voltage, than Ozone has (see chart below).

The Polyatomic Molecules of Oxygen (O4 to O8), and NOT Ozone (O3),

which are generated in a " Cold Plasma " Electrical Field have MANY

MORE Electrons AVAILABLE than Ozone and so their Oxidant Potential

Voltage should DEFINITELY be HIGHER than Ozone and may even be HIGHER

than Fluorine.

I posted the following Chart a few years, while I was doing Research

for my various Ozone Fact Sheets, but I wasn't ABLE to find the

Oxidant Potential Voltage for O4, let alone O5, O6, O7 and/or O8. I

did find 2 other Molecules (atomic oxygen - O1 & hydroxyl radical -

OH), which have a HIGHER Oxidant Potential Voltage than Ozone (see

chart below). I was SURPRISED to learn, after I did my Research,

that MANY Websites, Ozone Organizations and Ozone Generator

Manufacturers CLAIM that Ozone has the next HIGHEST Oxidant Potential

Voltage to Fluorine, when in fact, these two other Molecules have a

HIGHER Oxidant Potential Voltage than Ozone (O3)!

http://healingtools.tripod.com/ofs2h.html

http://healingtools.tripod.com/OT_pages.html#ofs

I'm NOW wondering, does Saul or ANYONE know the Oxidant Potential

Voltages of the Polyatomic Oxygen Molecules - O4 to O8?

" THANKS " for your " SHOCKED " Post! LOL

Tom/Psa. 103:1-5.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Well I am shocked. I had read that ozone got rid of flouride. I

> believe it was in Ed McCabes book. Ugh.

> Donna

> http://www.excellentthings.com

>

> Saul Pressman wrote:

>

> >Dear Nenah,

> >

> >I looked for the answer to this question a number of years ago and

couldn't

> >get it.

> >I still do not have an answer in the positive, so my assumption is

that

> >ozone does

> >not remove fluoride from water.

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> Dear Tom,

>

> Singlet Oxygen, O1, has a higher oxidation potential than ozone and

> Hydroxyl, OH, has a higher oxidation potential than that.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dr. Saul,

My Ozone Fact Sheet shows that that is correct.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Hydroxyl is too powerful to use, except for industrial processes.

There is a

> patented process called Peroxone, which uses ozonation of hydrogen

peroxide

> to produce hydroxyl. This process is used by Los Angeles in their

water

> treatment plant. Do NOT try this at home.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I was recently emailed some Information from a Co. in Korea, which

offers a Home Air and Water Purifier, that produces Hydroxyl (OH),

but I can't seem to find it now.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> O4 is two O2 molecules stuck together. They have no more energy than

> if they were not stuck together. (So much for Aran).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Isn't the term, Aran, also used to mean other higher Allotropes of

Oxygen such as O5, O6, O7, O8, O9 & O10?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> O8 is four O2 molecules. Nothing special there either.

>

> It is the O5 molecule, the O6 (O3 + O3), the O7 and the O9 molecule

that

> would be of interest. The odd numbered one is where the added

energy is.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Doesn't Aran also encompass these Oxygen Molecules?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> It is actually the singlet oxygen that breaks off from ozone

> O3 that does the work. The other part of O3 is just O2.

>

> O3 => O2 + O1

>

> There is gas mass spectrometer proof that heavier species exist

(such as

> O6).

> There is no proof that this is of any importance.

>

> The CONCENTRATION is what is relevant.

>

> Too little is ineffective.

> Too much is immune suppressive.

>

> Our medical window is 20 - 75 ug/ml.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Have these higher allotropes of Oxygen been tested for their Oxidant

Potential Voltage? If they have, do the very high allotropes of

Oxygen have a higher Oxidant Potential Voltage than Fluorine? And if

they have, wouldn't they neutralize Fluorides?

" THANKS " for your reply post!

Tom/Psa. 33:12.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> ----Original Message Follows----

> From: " Tom Harrelson " <tharrels1@y...>

> Reply-oxyplus

> oxyplus

> Subject: Re: Does ozone get rid of fluoride in water?

> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:13:18 -0000

>

> Hi Donna! I looked at ALL of my online References and I couldn't

> find the Fact that Ozone (O3) NEUTRALIZES Flourides! It's probably

> because Flourine, being a Component of Fluoride Compounds, has a

> HIGHER Oxidant Potential Voltage, than Ozone has (see chart below).

>

> The Polyatomic Molecules of Oxygen (O4 to O8), and NOT Ozone (O3),

> which are generated in a " Cold Plasma " Electrical Field have MANY

> MORE Electrons AVAILABLE than Ozone and so their Oxidant Potential

> Voltage should DEFINITELY be HIGHER than Ozone and may even be

HIGHER

> than Fluorine.

>

> I posted the following Chart a few years, while I was doing Research

> for my various Ozone Fact Sheets, but I wasn't ABLE to find the

> Oxidant Potential Voltage for O4, let alone O5, O6, O7 and/or O8. I

> did find 2 other Molecules (atomic oxygen - O1 & hydroxyl radical -

> OH), which have a HIGHER Oxidant Potential Voltage than Ozone (see

> chart below). I was SURPRISED to learn, after I did my Research,

> that MANY Websites, Ozone Organizations and Ozone Generator

> Manufacturers CLAIM that Ozone has the next HIGHEST Oxidant

Potential

> Voltage to Fluorine, when in fact, these two other Molecules have a

> HIGHER Oxidant Potential Voltage than Ozone (O3)!

>

> http://healingtools.tripod.com/ofs2h.html

> http://healingtools.tripod.com/OT_pages.html#ofs

>

> I'm NOW wondering, does Saul or ANYONE know the Oxidant Potential

> Voltages of the Polyatomic Oxygen Molecules - O4 to O8?

>

> " THANKS " for your " SHOCKED " Post! LOL

>

> Tom/Psa. 103:1-5.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Well I am shocked. I had read that ozone got rid of flouride. I

> > believe it was in Ed McCabes book. Ugh.

> > Donna

> > http://www.excellentthings.com

> >

> > Saul Pressman wrote:

> >

> > >Dear Nenah,

> > >

> > >I looked for the answer to this question a number of years ago

and

> couldn't

> > >get it.

> > >I still do not have an answer in the positive, so my assumption

is

> that

> > >ozone does

> > >not remove fluoride from water.

>

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