Re: Cancer, enzymes and ozone

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Dear ,

There are over 200,000 enzymes known, and more being discovered every day.

So, the blanket word 'enzymes' may conceal rather than illuminate.

The question comes whether the cancer is walling itself off or whether

the body is walling it off. We were taught that the body is walling off the

tumor and the tumor tries to escape the encapsulation. This idea is

supported by the notion of non-growing, previously malignant cancers,

which are found to be encapsulated upon surgical removal.

The cancer needs to force itself in between existing cells, so it secretes

the enzyme hyaluronidase to break up long chain polymers that are the

intercellular cement, and the enzyme collagenase to break up the collagen

fibrils between cells. Vitamin C strengthens the intercellular substrate,

helping

to control tumor growth.

Ozone tends not to touch an encapsulated tumor, because the cells of the

encapsulation are manufacturing protective enzymes (SOD, glutathione) which

neutralize ozone.

Dr. Wilner, amongst others, recommended EDTA before ozone therapy, to remove

the encapsulating wall, and allow the ozone to have direct access to the

cancer cells,

which it can then kill on contact, by cell lysis (blowing a hole in the cell

wall).

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Subject: Re: Re: Surgery Causes Metastasis

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 01:58:23 -0000

Hi Dr Pressman

Thanks for this reply - its very interesting. If the cancer secretes

enzymes to dissolve the wall so as to expand how does enzyme therapy for

cancer work. It thought protease were taken in large doses to disolve the

tumor wall too?

or do they have another purpose. Do you think enzyme therapy is a good

treatment for cancer?

Re: Cancer and Ozone--to Obie

> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 00:17:07 -0000

>

> Obie, I am sure Saul will respond, he sometimes gets busy or travels

> and then seems to respond to a bunch of posts at once.

>

> I think in some cases it may be a good idea to get a tumor out--to

> remove the main mass, because otherwise the body has to get rid of

> it. So you can help the body along. There is nothing wrong with

> surgery. I think perhaps the danger is in the ignorance of the

> surgeons, because I believe in certain tumors, by cutting into it

and

> exposing it to air, it actually causes the cancer to grow faster or

> to be spread faster. I have always wondered about needle biopsies

> for instance and wondered whether they were safe.

>

> I think a lot of it depends on how your wife is feeling. A person's

> psychological state and what they believe will help is important.

If

> she is very influenced by the doctors, then not getting surgery

while

> they are screaming to do it, could put her in a state of fear that

> could be bad for her immunity. If she truly believes she should get

> the surgery, it might be a good idea. And then do all the

> alternative therapies. I personally think that combining various

> therapies is often a good idea. We are all individual and we're not

> quite sure what is the best approach for us, so if we try a bunch,

we

> improve our chances.

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear ,

There are over 200,000 enzymes known, and more being discovered every day.

So, the blanket word 'enzymes' may conceal rather than illuminate.

The question comes whether the cancer is walling itself off or whether

the body is walling it off. We were taught that the body is walling off the

tumor and the tumor tries to escape the encapsulation. This idea is

supported by the notion of non-growing, previously malignant cancers,

which are found to be encapsulated upon surgical removal.

The cancer needs to force itself in between existing cells, so it secretes

the enzyme hyaluronidase to break up long chain polymers that are the

intercellular cement, and the enzyme collagenase to break up the collagen

fibrils between cells. Vitamin C strengthens the intercellular substrate,

helping

to control tumor growth.

Ozone tends not to touch an encapsulated tumor, because the cells of the

encapsulation are manufacturing protective enzymes (SOD, glutathione) which

neutralize ozone.

Dr. Wilner, amongst others, recommended EDTA before ozone therapy, to remove

the encapsulating wall, and allow the ozone to have direct access to the

cancer cells,

which it can then kill on contact, by cell lysis (blowing a hole in the cell

wall).

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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From: " " <johnml@...>

Reply-oxyplus

<oxyplus >

Subject: Re: Re: Surgery Causes Metastasis

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 01:58:23 -0000

Hi Dr Pressman

Thanks for this reply - its very interesting. If the cancer secretes

enzymes to dissolve the wall so as to expand how does enzyme therapy for

cancer work. It thought protease were taken in large doses to disolve the

tumor wall too?

or do they have another purpose. Do you think enzyme therapy is a good

treatment for cancer?

Re: Cancer and Ozone--to Obie

> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 00:17:07 -0000

>

> Obie, I am sure Saul will respond, he sometimes gets busy or travels

> and then seems to respond to a bunch of posts at once.

>

> I think in some cases it may be a good idea to get a tumor out--to

> remove the main mass, because otherwise the body has to get rid of

> it. So you can help the body along. There is nothing wrong with

> surgery. I think perhaps the danger is in the ignorance of the

> surgeons, because I believe in certain tumors, by cutting into it

and

> exposing it to air, it actually causes the cancer to grow faster or

> to be spread faster. I have always wondered about needle biopsies

> for instance and wondered whether they were safe.

>

> I think a lot of it depends on how your wife is feeling. A person's

> psychological state and what they believe will help is important.

If

> she is very influenced by the doctors, then not getting surgery

while

> they are screaming to do it, could put her in a state of fear that

> could be bad for her immunity. If she truly believes she should get

> the surgery, it might be a good idea. And then do all the

> alternative therapies. I personally think that combining various

> therapies is often a good idea. We are all individual and we're not

> quite sure what is the best approach for us, so if we try a bunch,

we

> improve our chances.

>

>

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

and other

> alternative self-help subjects.

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In a message dated 11/04/2003 2:07:58 PM Central Standard Time,

spressman@... writes:

> Encapsulated tumors present a negatively charged cell wall to the

> incoming ozone (or reactive oxygen species, if you prefer).

> Most of these tumors are slow growing, due to the inhibition

> of the encapsulation, probably.

>

About 15 yrs ago a friend at work found a lump in her breast. A FNA

was done and confirmed it to be cancer. She went into the hospital to

have her breast removed. When the doc got in there, it was encapsulated.

they removed that and that was it. Didn't do anymore and she still

has her breast. But now she has Lupus.

Edith

[Guest guest]

> Ozone tends not to touch an encapsulated tumor, because the cells of the

> encapsulation are manufacturing protective enzymes (SOD,

glutathione) which

> neutralize ozone.

> Dr. Wilner, amongst others, recommended EDTA before ozone therapy,

to remove

> the encapsulating wall, and allow the ozone to have direct access to

the

> cancer cells,

> which it can then kill on contact, by cell lysis (blowing a hole in

the cell

> wall).

>

> Best of health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman

excuse my ignorance, but does this apply to ALL cancers, or

just " certain ones " which are encapsulated?

thanks,

Moria

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/04/2003 4:19:56 PM Central Standard Time, iri2@...

writes:

> Did they remove any lymph nodes or give any other therapy like chemo or

> radiation or possibly any ongoing drugs to decrease the chance of

re-occurrence?

> Best wishes and much love, Ken

>

>

No, she didn't do anything. She was back to work just as soon as the wound

healed.

edith

[Guest guest]

Dear Moria,

Encapsulated tumors present a negatively charged cell wall to the

incoming ozone (or reactive oxygen species, if you prefer).

Most of these tumors are slow growing, due to the inhibition

of the encapsulation, probably.

Thus, ozone does not react to them and goes hunting

other prey.

Tumors that are not encapsulated, the fast growing ones,

are attacked head on.

Other cancers, such as leukemia, do not present a problem either.

Cancer takes many forms, so the results can be different over time.

There are circadian rhythms that will affect the action of ozone, as the

body

cleanses at various times during the day, week, month. That is why it is

important to do many repeated treatments.

As always, ozone therapy is a cumulative process.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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oxyplus

Subject: Re: Cancer, enzymes and ozone

Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:28:44 -0000

> Ozone tends not to touch an encapsulated tumor, because the cells of the

> encapsulation are manufacturing protective enzymes (SOD,

glutathione) which

> neutralize ozone.

> Dr. Wilner, amongst others, recommended EDTA before ozone therapy,

to remove

> the encapsulating wall, and allow the ozone to have direct access to

the

> cancer cells,

> which it can then kill on contact, by cell lysis (blowing a hole in

the cell

> wall).

>

> Best of health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman

excuse my ignorance, but does this apply to ALL cancers, or

just " certain ones " which are encapsulated?

thanks,

Moria

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

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NOt sure how this helps but there was an article in the NEJM on the

fact that edges of tumors are hypoxic, and that hypoxia signals the

tumor to secrete chemicals to build more blood vessels to gain more

oxygen. So treatments involving oxygenation, including HBO and I am

not sure if ozone increases oxygen levels or not, might theoretically

(I have no idea) by increasing oxygen levels, slow down aggressive

angiogenesis of tumors.

>

> > Ozone tends not to touch an encapsulated tumor, because the

cells of the

> > encapsulation are manufacturing protective enzymes (SOD,

> glutathione) which

> > neutralize ozone.

> > Dr. Wilner, amongst others, recommended EDTA before ozone

therapy,

> to remove

> > the encapsulating wall, and allow the ozone to have direct

access to

> the

> > cancer cells,

> > which it can then kill on contact, by cell lysis (blowing a hole

in

> the cell

> > wall).

> >

> > Best of health!

> > Dr. Saul Pressman

>

>

> excuse my ignorance, but does this apply to ALL cancers, or

> just " certain ones " which are encapsulated?

>

> thanks,

> Moria

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

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NOt sure how this helps but there was an article in the NEJM on the

fact that edges of tumors are hypoxic, and that hypoxia signals the

tumor to secrete chemicals to build more blood vessels to gain more

oxygen. So treatments involving oxygenation, including HBO and I am

not sure if ozone increases oxygen levels or not, might theoretically

(I have no idea) by increasing oxygen levels, slow down aggressive

angiogenesis of tumors.

>

> > Ozone tends not to touch an encapsulated tumor, because the

cells of the

> > encapsulation are manufacturing protective enzymes (SOD,

> glutathione) which

> > neutralize ozone.

> > Dr. Wilner, amongst others, recommended EDTA before ozone

therapy,

> to remove

> > the encapsulating wall, and allow the ozone to have direct

access to

> the

> > cancer cells,

> > which it can then kill on contact, by cell lysis (blowing a hole

in

> the cell

> > wall).

> >

> > Best of health!

> > Dr. Saul Pressman

>

>

> excuse my ignorance, but does this apply to ALL cancers, or

> just " certain ones " which are encapsulated?

>

> thanks,

> Moria

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

and other

> alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

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Did they remove any lymph nodes or give any other therapy like chemo or

radiation or possibly any ongoing drugs to decrease the chance of re-occurrence?

Best wishes and much love, Ken

Ken Gullan

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Re: Re: Cancer, enzymes and ozone

About 15 yrs ago a friend at work found a lump in her breast. A FNA

was done and confirmed it to be cancer. She went into the hospital to

have her breast removed. When the doc got in there, it was encapsulated.

they removed that and that was it. Didn't do anymore and she still

has her breast. But now she has Lupus.

Edith

[Guest guest]

Dear Jill,

It is important to realize that the aerobic/anerobic line is not as

hard as we might like, but is rather blurred. Cancer tumors do

have a small requirment for oxygen, as Dr. Warburg pointed out

in the paper I posted. It keeps them from producing even more

severely deformed cells.

However, I would say that angiogenesis takes place in order to

get more SUGAR, rather than more oxygen. The cancer cells are

hungry for sugar, because they are so wasteful of it, deriving only

5% of the energy in it because they ferment it instead of oxidizing it.

As I have said before, the first nine stages of the Krebs citric acid cycle

produce only 2 molecules of ATP. It is the addition of oxygen in the final,

tenth stage that produces 36 molecules of ATP, for the toal of 38.

The cancer cell is confined to the first nine stages, for the most part,

and that is why it is too weak to make the protective enzymes SOD,

glutathione, reductase and catalase. And therefore ozone can attack the

cell wall directly and blow a hole through (cell lysis). This was proven by

Sweet, et al, in their famous 1980 paper in Science on ozone effects on

cancer cells.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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oxyplus

Subject: Re: Cancer, enzymes and ozone

Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:49:19 -0000

NOt sure how this helps but there was an article in the NEJM on the

fact that edges of tumors are hypoxic, and that hypoxia signals the

tumor to secrete chemicals to build more blood vessels to gain more

oxygen. So treatments involving oxygenation, including HBO and I am

not sure if ozone increases oxygen levels or not, might theoretically

(I have no idea) by increasing oxygen levels, slow down aggressive

angiogenesis of tumors.

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[Guest guest]

Dear Edith,

Sorry to hear about your friend.

However, this does illustrate the point that it is necessary to remove

the toxins in the body, not just tumors. Otherwise, you have not done

a complete job, and more trouble is ahead.

I hope that she is on a cleansing program...

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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About 15 yrs ago a friend at work found a lump in her breast. A FNA

was done and confirmed it to be cancer. She went into the hospital to

have her breast removed. When the doc got in there, it was encapsulated.

they removed that and that was it. Didn't do anymore and she still

has her breast. But now she has Lupus.

Edith

[Guest guest]

Interesting, Saul. I'll see if I can find that article abstract

online later on, and post it here anyway. I thought it was

interesting research.

> Dear Jill,

>

> It is important to realize that the aerobic/anerobic line is not as

> hard as we might like, but is rather blurred. Cancer tumors do

> have a small requirment for oxygen, as Dr. Warburg pointed out

> in the paper I posted. It keeps them from producing even more

> severely deformed cells.

>

> However, I would say that angiogenesis takes place in order to

> get more SUGAR, rather than more oxygen. The cancer cells are

> hungry for sugar, because they are so wasteful of it, deriving only

> 5% of the energy in it because they ferment it instead of oxidizing

it.

>

> As I have said before, the first nine stages of the Krebs citric

acid cycle

> produce only 2 molecules of ATP. It is the addition of oxygen in

the final,

> tenth stage that produces 36 molecules of ATP, for the toal of 38.

> The cancer cell is confined to the first nine stages, for the most

part,

> and that is why it is too weak to make the protective enzymes SOD,

> glutathione, reductase and catalase. And therefore ozone can attack

the

> cell wall directly and blow a hole through (cell lysis). This was

proven by

> Sweet, et al, in their famous 1980 paper in Science on ozone

effects on

> cancer cells.

>

> Best of health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

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>

>

>

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> From: " jill1313 " <jenbooks13@h...>

> Reply-oxyplus

> oxyplus

> Subject: Re: Cancer, enzymes and ozone

> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:49:19 -0000

>

> NOt sure how this helps but there was an article in the NEJM on the

> fact that edges of tumors are hypoxic, and that hypoxia signals the

> tumor to secrete chemicals to build more blood vessels to gain more

> oxygen. So treatments involving oxygenation, including HBO and I am

> not sure if ozone increases oxygen levels or not, might

theoretically

> (I have no idea) by increasing oxygen levels, slow down aggressive

> angiogenesis of tumors.

>

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