Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 > Can any users of Den's tent sauna comment on the need for a thermostat > to control the temperature? I am thinking of hooking up an oven > thermostat to cycle on & off the steam pot to maintain a preset > temperature. Without the thermostat the steam generator stays on all the > time. > > Thanks, > > Dennis Unless Dens steamer has greatly improved over the last few years, I would discard it as he suggested to me a few years ago - junk. I ended up using a 6 gallon electric water heater with a fast response remote bulb temperature controller inside the sauna cabinet and a ground fault detector for insurance. Only the probe is in the sauna. If I want more heat, I just touch the element with my hand, if I want less, I let go. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 Dick, Is the " fast response remote bulb temperature controller " a special kind of thermostat? I have found some remote bulb thermostats but I'm not sure about the fast response aspect. I agree that the steamer is cheaply made but did you find that it didn't do the job?....Not enough steam? Is the 6 gal electric water heater you use an off the shelf product? Dennis bjs17792001 wrote: > > > >>Can any users of Den's tent sauna comment on the need for a >> >> >thermostat > > >>to control the temperature? I am thinking of hooking up an oven >>thermostat to cycle on & off the steam pot to maintain a preset >>temperature. Without the thermostat the steam generator stays on >> >> >all the > > >>time. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Dennis >> >> > >Unless Dens steamer has greatly improved over the last few years, I >would discard it as he suggested to me a few years ago - junk. > >I ended up using a 6 gallon electric water heater with a fast >response remote bulb temperature controller inside the sauna cabinet >and a ground fault detector for insurance. Only the probe is in the >sauna. If I want more heat, I just touch the element with my hand, >if I want less, I let go. > >Dick > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 I have done over 300 saunas in Den's sauna with the " junk " boiler and found it to be adequate. the only complaint I have is that sometimes the steam can direct itself directly onto your butt and can burn and the leakage through the bottom of the tent can cause damage to a carpet. I have bought one of those trays for under a washing machine and cut the poles so that it fits into the tray, making life much simpler. Also, several towels on the bottom can ease the problem. I sure would love one of Saul's fiberglass units but not able to yet! Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: Re: Tent Sauna Thermostat Dick, Is the " fast response remote bulb temperature controller " a special kind of thermostat? I have found some remote bulb thermostats but I'm not sure about the fast response aspect. I agree that the steamer is cheaply made but did you find that it didn't do the job?....Not enough steam? Is the 6 gal electric water heater you use an off the shelf product? Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Ken, Why don't you try slipping a length of flexible tubing over each of the " Y " steam inlet pieces? They measure 7/16 " diameter. You could then direct the steam away from your body. Dennis Ken Gullan - IRI wrote: >I have done over 300 saunas in Den's sauna with the " junk " boiler and found it to be adequate. the only complaint I have is that sometimes the steam can direct itself directly onto your butt and can burn and the leakage through the bottom of the tent can cause damage to a carpet. I have bought one of those trays for under a washing machine and cut the poles so that it fits into the tray, making life much simpler. Also, several towels on the bottom can ease the problem. >I sure would love one of Saul's fiberglass units but not able to yet! >Best wishes and much love, Ken > >Ken Gullan >Institute for Research Integration (IRI) >San Diego, CA 92106-2424 >IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. >To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 > Re: Re: Tent Sauna Thermostat > > > Dick, > > Is the " fast response remote bulb temperature controller " a special kind > of thermostat? I have found some remote bulb thermostats but I'm not > sure about the fast response aspect. > > I agree that the steamer is cheaply made but did you find that it didn't > do the job?....Not enough steam? > > Is the 6 gal electric water heater you use an off the shelf product? > > Dennis > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Good suggestion but was only a problem for first few saunas and got used to it! Too lazy for little return. Thanks though! :-) Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: Re: Tent Sauna Thermostat Ken, Why don't you try slipping a length of flexible tubing over each of the " Y " steam inlet pieces? They measure 7/16 " diameter. You could then direct the steam away from your body. Dennis Ken Gullan - IRI wrote: >I have done over 300 saunas in Den's sauna with the " junk " boiler and found it to be adequate. the only complaint I have is that sometimes the steam can direct itself directly onto your butt and can burn and the leakage through the bottom of the tent can cause damage to a carpet. I have bought one of those trays for under a washing machine and cut the poles so that it fits into the tray, making life much simpler. Also, several towels on the bottom can ease the problem. >I sure would love one of Saul's fiberglass units but not able to yet! >Best wishes and much love, Ken > >Ken Gullan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Ken, Regarding the water leakage. Get a medium to heavy weight polyethylene sheet and some 2x2 or 2x4 lumber. Cut the lumber to size to build a rectangular frame with an inside measurement about an inch or two bigger than the sauna. Just lay out the lumber to form a frame (you should screw the corners together for stability) and lay the poly sheet over the frame. Now place the sauna over the sheet/frame combination. This will create a " bathtub " under the sauna with the sides of the tub being the lumber. Should keep the floor dry. BTW, I looked into washing machine trays but they are too small for the Dens sauna. Dennis Ken Gullan - IRI wrote: >I have done over 300 saunas in Den's sauna with the " junk " boiler and found it to be adequate. the only complaint I have is that sometimes the steam can direct itself directly onto your butt and can burn and the leakage through the bottom of the tent can cause damage to a carpet. I have bought one of those trays for under a washing machine and cut the poles so that it fits into the tray, making life much simpler. Also, several towels on the bottom can ease the problem. >I sure would love one of Saul's fiberglass units but not able to yet! >Best wishes and much love, Ken > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 I cut the support pipes to get it to fit the tray. Only makes it look looser bu5t has not negative effect on the quality of the sauna. I actually like it better to dis-assemble and rebuild! Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: Re: Tent Sauna Thermostat Ken, Regarding the water leakage. Get a medium to heavy weight polyethylene sheet and some 2x2 or 2x4 lumber. Cut the lumber to size to build a rectangular frame with an inside measurement about an inch or two bigger than the sauna. Just lay out the lumber to form a frame (you should screw the corners together for stability) and lay the poly sheet over the frame. Now place the sauna over the sheet/frame combination. This will create a " bathtub " under the sauna with the sides of the tub being the lumber. Should keep the floor dry. BTW, I looked into washing machine trays but they are too small for the Dens sauna. Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 > Dick, > > Is the " fast response remote bulb temperature controller " a special kind > of thermostat? I have found some remote bulb thermostats but I'm not > sure about the fast response aspect. Not sure about the actual reaction time on others, but the one I have reacts in about 5 sec. or so.... > > I agree that the steamer is cheaply made but did you find that it didn't > do the job?....Not enough steam? > > Is the 6 gal electric water heater you use an off the shelf product? > I don't know, all I know is that when I was looking for a steamer, Den would not sell me one because he had so many problems with them. They came from China, and he had a hell of a time with warranties. The 6 gal. water is an off the self item. About a hundred bucks. If you burn out the element, it is a 8 dollar fix from any hardware store. Dick Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 > I have done over 300 saunas in Den's sauna with the " junk " boiler and found it to be adequate. The " junk " quote originated from Den at the point in time I tried to buy one from him Kenney, about 2 years or so ago. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Dick, Who is the manufacturer of your 6 gallon steamer? Where did you buy yours? Thanks, Dennis > >The 6 gal. water is an off the self item. About a hundred bucks. If >you burn out the element, it is a 8 dollar fix from any hardware >store. > >Dick > >Dick > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 > Dick, > > Who is the manufacturer of your 6 gallon steamer? > > Where did you buy yours? > > Thanks, > > Dennis Intertherm. It is a plain water heater, I modified it to be a steamer. I bought it from one of my customers about 10 years ago and never hooked it up until I had a need for it with the sauna. Looking around on the internet, they are considerably more then a 100 bucks nowadays. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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