Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 You went through what is called a healing reaction. Fever is a good sign as this is the bodies way of getting rid of toxins it the body. Glad you continued on, most people get to this point and then quit. Stopping the healing process. Sounds like you are on the road to recovery. Congrats! Gale ^i^ http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " between water and light Protocol for Herpes or Lyme Disease I have posted before about my herpes treatments. Basically I have suffered genital and chin outbreaks for 30 years. After ozone treatments (for Typhoid)in India in 1998, I had no outbreaks for a year. But the treatments were not enough. This time, I am using ozone gas IV only. I began with 30 cc then slowly went to 120cc over a 4 week period. After the 5th or 6th treatment I experienced simultaneous outbreaks both genitally and on my chin of a proportion never seen. They went away and I continued twice a week (all that was available to me) at 120cc each time. No more outbreaks. However, the naturopath treating me suggested we try a protocol he used on himself when he suffered (greatly) from Lyme disease. It entails five injections of ozone in one day with two hour intervals between the injections (a three hour interval between the 4th and the 5th). I underwent this procedure yesterday. After the 3rd injection I experienced a very mild fever. The fever became stronger after the 4th, plus generalized weakness. I was concerned, but the practicioner used kinesiology to determine that we should procede. The 5th injection produced no fever, no weakness, and today I feel absolutely wonderful. I will continue with weekly injections. I believe that I have experienced my last outbreak. Do you have any comments Saul? By the way, I am fortunate to find someone who charges only $30 per visit...he's all heart! The Lyme disease disappeared entirely after this protocol, never to return. Tomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Thanks Gale, I must confess that feeling weak and feverish after the 4th injection brought me to the point of almost quitting. The naturopath also said the fever was a good sign, but I still thought about quitting. When the muscle testing said to go ahead, I went for it. The last injection produced strength and clarity and no more fever. I am grateful for this opportunity. The people doing the treatments are really wonderful. Tomas > You went through what is called a healing reaction. Fever is a good sign as this is the bodies way of getting rid of toxins it the body. Glad you continued on, most people get to this point and then quit. Stopping the healing process. > > Sounds like you are on the road to recovery. Congrats! > > Gale ^i^ > http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com > We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " between water and light > Protocol for Herpes or Lyme Disease > > > I have posted before about my herpes treatments. Basically I have > suffered genital and chin outbreaks for 30 years. After ozone > treatments (for Typhoid)in India in 1998, I had no outbreaks for a > year. But the treatments were not enough. > > This time, I am using ozone gas IV only. I began with 30 cc then > slowly went to 120cc over a 4 week period. After the 5th or 6th > treatment I experienced simultaneous outbreaks both genitally and on > my chin of a proportion never seen. They went away and I continued > twice a week (all that was available to me) at 120cc each time. No > more outbreaks. However, the naturopath treating me suggested we try > a protocol he used on himself when he suffered (greatly) from Lyme > disease. It entails five injections of ozone in one day with two hour > intervals between the injections (a three hour interval between the > 4th and the 5th). > > I underwent this procedure yesterday. After the 3rd injection I > experienced a very mild fever. The fever became stronger after the > 4th, plus generalized weakness. I was concerned, but the practicioner > used kinesiology to determine that we should procede. The 5th > injection produced no fever, no weakness, and today I feel absolutely > wonderful. I will continue with weekly injections. I believe that I > have experienced my last outbreak. > > Do you have any comments Saul? > > By the way, I am fortunate to find someone who charges only $30 per > visit...he's all heart! > > The Lyme disease disappeared entirely after this protocol, never to > return. > > Tomas > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Dear Tomas, I take it this was direct injection, not autohemotherapy. It is common to have a large outbreak of herpes as its last gasp before final annihilation by ozone therapy. Distressing, but in the end, it is a good thing. Taking a large number of injections in one day is a therapy that was tried by Dr. Sartori a number of years ago. He had good success, but in severely ill people he found that the system could not take the extreme toxin release overload, and he lost a patient due to liver failure. Needless to say, he was roundly criticized for such an extreme protocol. Unless death is imminent, I don't see the hurry. The same results can be obtained in a week of injections. The very brief healing crisis sounds like it was not complete. Since Lyme is a disease (like many) that cycles, not all the bugs are susceptible at the same time. Time will tell.... Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ----------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " sathya999 " <sathya999@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Protocol for Herpes or Lyme Disease Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:53:31 -0000 I have posted before about my herpes treatments. Basically I have suffered genital and chin outbreaks for 30 years. After ozone treatments (for Typhoid)in India in 1998, I had no outbreaks for a year. But the treatments were not enough. This time, I am using ozone gas IV only. I began with 30 cc then slowly went to 120cc over a 4 week period. After the 5th or 6th treatment I experienced simultaneous outbreaks both genitally and on my chin of a proportion never seen. They went away and I continued twice a week (all that was available to me) at 120cc each time. No more outbreaks. However, the naturopath treating me suggested we try a protocol he used on himself when he suffered (greatly) from Lyme disease. It entails five injections of ozone in one day with two hour intervals between the injections (a three hour interval between the 4th and the 5th). I underwent this procedure yesterday. After the 3rd injection I experienced a very mild fever. The fever became stronger after the 4th, plus generalized weakness. I was concerned, but the practicioner used kinesiology to determine that we should procede. The 5th injection produced no fever, no weakness, and today I feel absolutely wonderful. I will continue with weekly injections. I believe that I have experienced my last outbreak. Do you have any comments Saul? By the way, I am fortunate to find someone who charges only $30 per visit...he's all heart! The Lyme disease disappeared entirely after this protocol, never to return. Tomas OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Where are you Tomas? What is your history with lyme disease? I have that and candida. Hyperbaric oxygen (home chamber) helpes me--I haven't had a headache in 4 mos, and I am somwehat better, but I only do it twice a week because it affects my vision and I don't want that to damage my lens more than I have to (oxidization of the lens, which only gets antioxidants by perfusion). So I am getting an ozone sauna once Saul outgasses the one he's building me. So I guess in December. I spoke with someone else recently who also did injections. I would be scared to do that. I hope the sauna and water and whatever else is enough, I'd rather do it over time WHere do you live and who is your naturopath? Anyway I would be very appreciate of hearing more. Several people on this list feel the ozone sauna greatly improved their lyme One had no rashes, the other had rashes, even a bullseye rash reappeared durign treatment. > > You went through what is called a healing reaction. Fever is a > good sign as this is the bodies way of getting rid of toxins it the > body. Glad you continued on, most people get to this point and then > quit. Stopping the healing process. > > > > Sounds like you are on the road to recovery. Congrats! > > > > Gale ^i^ > > http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com > > We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " > between water and light > > Protocol for Herpes or Lyme Disease > > > > > > I have posted before about my herpes treatments. Basically I have > > suffered genital and chin outbreaks for 30 years. After ozone > > treatments (for Typhoid)in India in 1998, I had no outbreaks for > a > > year. But the treatments were not enough. > > > > This time, I am using ozone gas IV only. I began with 30 cc then > > slowly went to 120cc over a 4 week period. After the 5th or 6th > > treatment I experienced simultaneous outbreaks both genitally and > on > > my chin of a proportion never seen. They went away and I > continued > > twice a week (all that was available to me) at 120cc each time. > No > > more outbreaks. However, the naturopath treating me suggested we > try > > a protocol he used on himself when he suffered (greatly) from > Lyme > > disease. It entails five injections of ozone in one day with two > hour > > intervals between the injections (a three hour interval between > the > > 4th and the 5th). > > > > I underwent this procedure yesterday. After the 3rd injection I > > experienced a very mild fever. The fever became stronger after > the > > 4th, plus generalized weakness. I was concerned, but the > practicioner > > used kinesiology to determine that we should procede. The 5th > > injection produced no fever, no weakness, and today I feel > absolutely > > wonderful. I will continue with weekly injections. I believe that > I > > have experienced my last outbreak. > > > > Do you have any comments Saul? > > > > By the way, I am fortunate to find someone who charges only $30 > per > > visit...he's all heart! > > > > The Lyme disease disappeared entirely after this protocol, never > to > > return. > > > > Tomas > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Are you and Marc still doing the ozone? I haven't noticed either of you saying much about it lately. > We are discussing ozone/rife protocols for Lyme on this discussion group: > > <A HREF= " http://www./group/lyme-and- rife " >http://www./group/lyme-and-rife</A> > > > > > > Thanks Gale, > > > > I must confess that feeling weak and feverish after the 4th injection > > brought me to the point of almost quitting. The naturopath also said > > the fever was a good sign, but I still thought about quitting. When > > the muscle testing said to go ahead, I went for it. The last > > injection produced strength and clarity and no more fever. I am > > grateful for this opportunity. The people doing the treatments are > > really wonderful. > > > > Tomas > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Saul, I guess I wasn't clear. It's the naturopath who had Lyme, not me. The five injections (yes it's gas) did the trick for him... Thanks, Tom > Dear Tomas, > > I take it this was direct injection, not autohemotherapy. > > It is common to have a large outbreak of herpes as its last gasp > before final annihilation by ozone therapy. Distressing, but in the end, > it is a good thing. > > Taking a large number of injections in one day is a therapy that was > tried by Dr. Sartori a number of years ago. He had good success, > but in severely ill people he found that the system could not take the > extreme toxin release overload, and he lost a patient due to liver failure. > Needless to say, he was roundly criticized for such an extreme protocol. > > Unless death is imminent, I don't see the hurry. The same results can be > obtained in a week of injections. The very brief healing crisis sounds like > it > was not complete. Since Lyme is a disease (like many) that cycles, not all > the bugs are susceptible at the same time. > > Time will tell.... > > Best of health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Jill, I live in Puerto Rico. It was the naturopath, not me, who had Lyme disease. He was very sick with Lyme's. He tried single injections, would feel better for a few days, but then would replapse. So he used kinesiology to determine his protocol of two hours between injections. I don't know the quantity he used each time for himself. When treating me (for herpes) he used 120cc, 90 ,90, 90, and 90cc, so I had almost half a liter in one day! Maybe that's why I swam 4 times farther today with no effort. There was a three hour interval between the 4th and 5th injection, all determined by muscle testing. He does not believe in " fixed " protocols for anyone. What's your fear of injections when millions have been given without problems? If you have someone like Saul to guide you, why not go for it. But yeah, it's just my way to sort of max everything out. I like it that way. Slow and steady will do it too, but I tend to be an impatient patient! Tomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Whoops. My fear is an embolism as well as damaging the vein. I don't want to do it but I'm glad it helped you. Where in Puerto Rico? I've been all over the island and love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 > Jill, > > I live in Puerto Rico. It was the naturopath, not me, who had Lyme > disease. He was very sick with Lyme's. He tried single injections, > would feel better for a few days, but then would replapse. So he used > kinesiology to determine his protocol of two hours between > injections. I don't know the quantity he used each time for himself. > > When treating me (for herpes) he used 120cc, 90 ,90, 90, and 90cc, so > I had almost half a liter in one day! Maybe that's why I swam 4 times > farther today with no effort. > There was a three hour interval between the 4th and 5th injection, > all determined by muscle testing. He does not believe in " fixed " > protocols for anyone. > > What's your fear of injections when millions have been given without > problems? If you have someone like Saul to guide you, why not go for > it. But yeah, it's just my way to sort of max everything out. I like > it that way. Slow and steady will do it too, but I tend to be an > impatient patient! > > Tomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 > Jill, > > I live in Puerto Rico. It was the naturopath, not me, who had Lyme > disease. He was very sick with Lyme's. He tried single injections, > would feel better for a few days, but then would replapse. So he used > kinesiology to determine his protocol of two hours between > injections. I don't know the quantity he used each time for himself. > > When treating me (for herpes) he used 120cc, 90 ,90, 90, and 90cc, so > I had almost half a liter in one day! Maybe that's why I swam 4 times > farther today with no effort. > There was a three hour interval between the 4th and 5th injection, > all determined by muscle testing. He does not believe in " fixed " > protocols for anyone. > > What's your fear of injections when millions have been given without > problems? If you have someone like Saul to guide you, why not go for > it. But yeah, it's just my way to sort of max everything out. I like > it that way. Slow and steady will do it too, but I tend to be an > impatient patient! > > Tomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 -I'm not that knowledgable about using the gas, except from my own experience. I had not read about it, but went with my gut feeling rather than what the mind was telling me about gas in the blood stream. I think it's only dangerous if the machine is producing low % ozone. Please correct me (anyone) if I am in error here. What kind of damage can occur to the veins with this therapy? My bod is almost 60 and feels more like 40 these days... I live on the north coast in the middle of the island. Really nice people here... Regards, Tomas -- In oxyplus , " jill1313 " <jenbooks13@h...> wrote: > Whoops. My fear is an embolism as well as damaging the vein. I don't > want to do it but I'm glad it helped you. Where in Puerto Rico? > I've been all over the island and love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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