Re: Advice needed - dealing w/ ear insufflations

October 28, 2003

> Similarly, with Lyme disease (and a host of others) people will often have

> a

> flare

> of symptoms equal to their worst bout, before the ozone overcomes the last

> resistance and cleans the place up.

Saul is right. This is Herring's Law of Cure and applies to almost all

chronic diseases:

THE HERRING LAW OF CURE

The Herring Law of cure describes the way in which the body reverses a ch

ronic disease. I have found this theory to roughly describe the healing

process,

especially experiencing symptoms that you havenâ€™t experienced for a long time.

For example, if you had nausea and tinnitus in the early stages of the

illness, you can expect them to return while undergoing successful treatment.

Without knowing this up front, you might become extremely frightened when you

see

that your frequency machine is awakening symptoms you thought had gone away a

long time ago. However, the disease will literally â€œreverse,â€ and as you

get

well, your symptoms will more closely resemble those symptoms of the early

illness. I was quite alarmed when some very frightful symptoms began to

reappear after having been gone for a very long time. But, in sticking with the

program, it all â€œbecame clearâ€ to me. " Pete " , who didnâ€™t even know about

the

Herring Law of Cure, told me to expect this.

Here is the complete Herrings Law of Cure:

HERRING'S LAW OF CURE

Hahnemann, : Organon of Medicine. Philadelphia. Pa., Boeriche and

Tafel, 1901

In the treating of chronic diseases, the homeopaths have discovered that the

elimination of these conditions proceeds in a certain specific order and rules

have been laid down outlining this healing procedure. These rules are known

as Herring's Laws in honor of Constantine Herring (1800-1880), who is

considered the father of American homeopathy. Herring's three laws may be

expressed

simply as follows:

1. Symptoms of a chronic disease disappear in a definite order when the

patient is properly treated in accordance with homeopathic recommendations. The

symptoms usually disappear in the reverse order of their appearance-the most

recent symptom disappears first; then an earlier symptom re manifests only to

abate when the proper remedy is given. This process continues until all the

unresolved disease conditions are eliminated, even though some may go back to

early

childhood. This procedure is called the reverse progression of symptoms. This

procedure of symptom regression isn't restricted to homeopathy alone, but is

to be expected when most natural methods of therapy are used to overcome

chronic ailments

2. Herring's second law states that the symptoms tend to move from the more

vital organs to the less vital organs and from the interior of the body toward

the periphery or skin. This law functions because of the body's attempt to

preserve itself. If a disease that produces morbid matter can't be eliminated,

the body tries to deposit the residues of this condition in as harmless an area

as possible. The skin is one of the safest, but the body also frequently uses

the various connective tissues and joints for this purpose. Only when the

disease process is overpowering does the body allow it to invade the vital

organs,

and even then the body makes every possible attempt to keep the disease

processes out of the heart and brain. When a patient comes to us with disorders

of

the vital organs, we know the vital force is weak or these areas wouldn't be

affected and therefore the cure will be prolonged. Under treatment, the

symptoms will subside and recede from the more vital areas to the less vital

areas,

and the symptoms may even end with a healing reaction on the best eliminator of

all-the skin.

3. Herring's third rule states that the symptoms move from the top of the

body downward, disappearing first from the head, then from the thigh to the

knee,

ankle, and foot. We frequently encounter this last pattern, wherein the pain

will go from the abdomen into the hip, then thigh, then knee and then in and

out the foot. These patients often comment: " You know, Doctor, I'm sure when it

gets down to the foot, it will just go out the toes and be gone. " They

usually are correct. The functioning of the third law is based on a principle

similar to the second. Because the more vital areas are found in the head and

upper

portion of the body and those of less importance are encountered toward the

extremities, the third law is a symptomatic extension of the second law. Its

nature is important to the physician but not particularly to the patient.

From these laws, a patient may realize that under proper homeopathic

treatment he could re-manifest symptom patterns from an earlier stage of his

life,

only if these conditions weren't fully corrected originally. If he had so lived

that the body didn't have residual disease material, it wouldn't be necessary

to go through this retracing regimen.

The homeopathic and natural healing physician look on chronic disease as the

consequence of improper nutrition, emotional tension, improper treatment with

allopathic medication and an over abundance of stress from which the body is

not able to recover. The symptoms or the final manifestations that occur are

merely an end result of these accumulated body assaults. While allopathy

attempts to battle these manifestations when they become objectionable, the true

natural healing physician directs his efforts to overcoming the underlying

causes,

thereby resulting in a patient who is disease-free, not one who is just

symptom free.

There is an old saying; " You have to get worse before you get better. " In

general this is a lot of nonsense and it is used by many physicians to cover

their inability to help their patients. With homeopathic remedies, however, this

maxim may well be true. We attempt with homeopathic remedies to further

stimulate the specific organs that are producing the symptoms. At first this

stimulation may result in a short-term intensification of these symptoms, but

this

soon passes as the vital energy of the body responds to this stimulus and

rapidly

overcomes the disease. The homeopath is encouraged if his patient worsens

slightly soon after taking the remedy, because this positively indicates that he

has selected the correct remedy and it is having its desired effect. If the

remedy is ill-chosen, it doesn't affect the proper tissues and no symptom will

intensification result.

Summary of Herring's Law of Cure

Herring's Law of Cure tells us that we heal from the head down, from inside

out and in reverse order as symptoms have appeared. This is the basis of all

healing and we may have to get worse before we get better. If we are to heal the

body of whatever disease it has, we must first believe we can heal. Then we

must cleanse out the impurities and not suppress any discharge.

October 28, 2003

> Moria, it is very important to distinguish whether this is a metaphor

> or a genuine yeast infection.

If you have some question about it, please ask it more

specifically. Although I dice things (including my use

of words and concepts) with some precision, I can't

address what you have said, because what distinction

YOU wish to make is not apparent to me. I already

answered this from my point of view.

I did not have my yeast levels measured at any point.

> I don't think they're the same. If it

> was causing a yeast flareup--it could be a kind of healing crisis,

> one of those " you reverse back thru symptoms " , a sort of, going from

> chronic latent to overt and then clearing totally--

I believe I addressed this. I did from my point of view.

My saying it is a yeast infection does NOT imply whether

it is " good " or " bad " or " detox " or " reverse healing symptom " or

will clear up. I do happen to think it will clear

up EVENTUALLY, and I said so. This does not affect

my opinion that it acts and feels totally like a

yeast infection. If it is not yeast it doesn't

really matter to me. My usual yeast treatments helped.

> or in some way,

> the yeast is thriving on ozone

other explanations are possible besides " thriving " , although

thriving is one possibility.

Moria

October 28, 2003

Dear Moira,

The least effect will be felt from drinking ozonated water.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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October 28, 2003

> > Moria, it is very important to distinguish whether this is a

metaphor

> > or a genuine yeast infection.

>

> If you have some question about it, please ask it more

> specifically.

If it is a genuine yeast infection then there we must examine why 03

would stimulate an infection when it tends to kill pathogens and

boost the immune system.

If it is simply vaginal irritation, it's quite a different matter.

They are far from the same thing or similar and the interpretation is

so different.

October 28, 2003

> > > Moria, it is very important to distinguish whether this is a

> metaphor

> > > or a genuine yeast infection.

> >

> > If you have some question about it, please ask it more

> > specifically.

>

> If it is a genuine yeast infection then there we must examine why 03

> would stimulate an infection when it tends to kill pathogens and

> boost the immune system.

I take it as a detox response, just like I take the skin rashes

and ear ooze. I'm told that the " ozone yeast " does go away.

Eventually. I'm satisfied with this explanation.

> If it is simply vaginal irritation, it's quite a different matter.

well, it clearly is a vaginal irritation. The issue is what does

" simply " mean? I didn't have it cultured. It involves intense

itching, and it responds well to all the yeast stuff I threw at

it. That doesn't prove it is yeast, and it may not be. If you

want, you can get this reaction and have it cultured.

For me, it looks, feels, and responds like a yeast infection,

so I've identified it as that. I also called it " ozone yeast "

to distinguish it from other yeast reactions. It is okay with

me if you don't identify it as that.

> They are far from the same thing or similar and the interpretation is

> so different.

For me, functionally what to do FOR ME seems the same, and that

is why this is not an issue TO ME. What to do is to treat it

as yeast, which seems to " work " . Then figure out how to

balance the amount of ozone use with the amount of itching

and the amount of probiotics taken daily, and so on.

I am not saying you should not have other questions, but this

is my thinking on the subject.

Perhaps your thinking will lead to better treatments that

are more effective in relieving the problem. If so, wonderful.

Moria

October 28, 2003

Dear Jill and Moria,

Yes, this is retracement, and that is why it is resistant to the

'normal' anti-yeast treatments, which are suppressive in nature.

Yeast has more difficulty in a more acid environment, so the boric

acid changes the environment, and the yeast is suppressed.

However, it remains in place, biding its time, until the environment

becomes more favorable, and then it blooms again.

When you are doing vaginal insufflation, you are eradicating the yeast

which fights back, in the same way as herpes fights back. They are

fighting for their very existence, and like any cornered 'animal' they are

10 times more tenacious.

However, this is the proof that it is not been stimulated by the ozone, but

actually eradicating from its comfortable long term home. It is a tough

fight,

but with continued application, the ozone will win out.

Similarly, with Lyme disease (and a host of others) people will often have a

flare

of symptoms equal to their worst bout, before the ozone overcomes the last

resistance and cleans the place up.

So, the most important thing is to not give up, and to continue, at whatever

level you can tolerate, in order to overcome the entrenched

bug/fungus/yeast/

virus/whatever. Slow and steady wins the race.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Subject: Re: Advice needed - dealing w/ ear insufflations

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:31:55 -0000

Moria, it is very important to distinguish whether this is a metaphor

or a genuine yeast infection. I don't think they're the same. If it

was causing a yeast flareup--it could be a kind of healing crisis,

one of those " you reverse back thru symptoms " , a sort of, going from

chronic latent to overt and then clearing totally--or in some way,

the yeast is thriving on ozone--in which case I would LOVE for Saul

to weigh in on this because it makes no sense to me. And Ken's

athlete foot has cleared up, etc, and Saul's wife's chronic yeast

infections cleared up, etc (through 03).

Itch can be caused by many things as you know.

I suppose aloe is somewhat antifungal but I " m proposing it for the

inflammatory response in your vaginal mucosa, not to kill yeast. It

is the salicylates in aloe that are so powerful, I have healed bowel

inflammation with them too. Try it, you'll get relief.

I do think you need to combinbe those 2 aloes, i say it from much

experience. Of course if you can fillet your own aloe without the

bitter element, thats best, but I tried that and was nervous about

the results.

Jill

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October 28, 2003

Moria, I agree. Although as you and Jill say, more questions may lead to better

answers. But, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck!

AFFLLLLLAAAACCCKKK! Ouch! I wish there were an easier solution! :-)

But, I can vouch that it does get better.

Best wishes and much love, Ken

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Re: Advice needed - dealing w/ ear insufflations

> > > Moria, it is very important to distinguish whether this is a

> metaphor

> > > or a genuine yeast infection.

> >

> > If you have some question about it, please ask it more

> > specifically.

>

> If it is a genuine yeast infection then there we must examine why 03

> would stimulate an infection when it tends to kill pathogens and

> boost the immune system.

I take it as a detox response, just like I take the skin rashes

and ear ooze. I'm told that the " ozone yeast " does go away.

Eventually. I'm satisfied with this explanation.

> If it is simply vaginal irritation, it's quite a different matter.

well, it clearly is a vaginal irritation. The issue is what does

" simply " mean? I didn't have it cultured. It involves intense

itching, and it responds well to all the yeast stuff I threw at

it. That doesn't prove it is yeast, and it may not be. If you

want, you can get this reaction and have it cultured.

For me, it looks, feels, and responds like a yeast infection,

so I've identified it as that. I also called it " ozone yeast "

to distinguish it from other yeast reactions. It is okay with

me if you don't identify it as that.

> They are far from the same thing or similar and the interpretation is

> so different.

For me, functionally what to do FOR ME seems the same, and that

is why this is not an issue TO ME. What to do is to treat it

as yeast, which seems to " work " . Then figure out how to

balance the amount of ozone use with the amount of itching

and the amount of probiotics taken daily, and so on.

I am not saying you should not have other questions, but this

is my thinking on the subject.

Perhaps your thinking will lead to better treatments that

are more effective in relieving the problem. If so, wonderful.

Moria

October 28, 2003

Oh, I see Saul did answer. But can we think about this a little more

anyway?

Organisms, when threatened (with starvation or inhospitable circs)

will signal to each other. They need a quorum to do so--in fact,

when you " get " an infection is when the infection has reached

critical mass in your body, and it knows it through chemotactic

signals, and then it switches on virulence because there are enough

bugs to really do something. A nd that's when your immune system

notices and starts to fight and either wins or loses. But when there

aren't enough bugs (i.e. a viglant immunesystem already killed much

of them) they will not switch on virulence and will remain under the

radar of immune system and not elicit a full attack.

This is known in biology.

It is also known that yeast for instance become filamentous when they

are starved for nutrition. So I have always thought that unless you

attack them properly, it could be that goingon an anti-yeast diet

actually causes them to switch hit and become filamentous--bad in the

long run!

So what I am thinking is, perhaps the ozone signals to various

mjicrobes, including yeast, " you are in danger! " yeast are dying, or

other organisms, and as they do of course they signal to their

brethren--how could microbes have survived without all the above

tactics anyway? they are old as time and very smart in their own way.

So it's, " Hey, troops, something bad is going on! " So the spores,

cysts, the latent forms, start to " give birth " and replenish the

troops. Maybe the yeast start to go filamentous and irritate

tissues, as they search for food or safety.

I am speculating here and I " d like Saul to weigh in on this. I want

otunderstand the m echanism so when I start my ozone saunas, and I

think I will do ozone water too, I can understand what is happening

with me. My main probleems are systemic resistant candida, and

chronic lyme. If I can get rid of the former, I'll be much better

anyway. I am not sure ozone will get rid of all the lyme but even if

it reduces it I should feel a lot better.

October 28, 2003

Dear Dr. Saul:

Concerning my Lady, and that she has only recently begun V. insufflation, hasn't

had an itch sensation yet, is irrigating before each procedure, I want her to

avoid this 24 hour itch, if possible. I mean, she doesn't deserve this, if she

can avoid it, unless she must have it to improve, of course. Earlier, you

suggested an ozone treatment for her [thank you for that] and I wish she'd do a

little less concentration for a longer time per treatment, perhaps, if you think

it will still be effective.

Secondly, if the endometrial lining of her uterus is only slightly swollen and

biopsy showed a Grade 1 cancer, can you estimate the duration of treatment; 12

to 18 months or longer or shorter? Obie.