Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Maybe you need to go a lot slower on your intake...I can drink up to 4 (16oz) bottles of GTs and feel GREAT. Last night, I drank my first 16oz of my homebrew and it was yummy and it felt great. I had too much sugar yesterday being Easter and I felt sick...after I drank my KT, I felt MUCH, MUCH better but then I woke up today and also had an 'upset stomach for about 3 hrs. I am going to reduce my intake by half and see if that helps. > > I made my first batch (fermented about 6 days), drank about 6 ounces > twice a day, no problems except a little queasy the on the first cup. > The second batch, I let it ferment longer (9 days), started drinking > the same amount, started feeling gurgling in the stomach, and sort of > a cold sweat, and had to rush to the bathroom shortly afterward, > continuing the bathromm trend way too often. That went on for 2 days , > as I continued 6oz. in the morning and 6oz. at night. I woke up around > 5 in the morning today, had to rush to the bathroom again. While in > there started with severe stomach pain, pins and needles cold sweat, > and started to black out, and then could'nt walk without bumping into > the walls, furniture, etc. I decided not to have kombucha for a bit > until I start to feel like I am back to normal. What is going on? Am I > extremely toxic? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 In message <evdkug+tplreGroups> you wrote: > I made my first batch (fermented about 6 days), drank about 6 ounces > twice a day, no problems except a little queasy the on the first cup. Steve, why not go back to the 6 or 7 day less acidic brew? It could very well be that your digestion objects to the higher acidity. > The second batch, I let it ferment longer (9 days), started drinking > the same amount, started feeling gurgling in the stomach, and sort of > a cold sweat, and had to rush to the bathroom shortly afterward, > continuing the bathromm trend way too often. That went on for 2 days , > as I continued 6oz. in the morning and 6oz. at night. I woke up around > 5 in the morning today, had to rush to the bathroom again. While in > there started with severe stomach pain, pins and needles cold sweat, > and started to black out, and then could'nt walk without bumping into > the walls, furniture, etc. That does sound serious! It seems to me like a serious case of dehydration to me. > I decided not to have kombucha for a bit > until I start to feel like I am back to normal. What is going on? Am I > extremely toxic? I don't think you are, Steve. I believe it is more a case of too much acidic Kombucha too quickly and with not enough water. My advice is: start drinking your KT slightly diluted with water and maybe only half the quantity you drank before. Water intake is very important! Minimum of same amount of extra water to amount of KT, but twice the amount would be better. If you had the KT on an empty stomach, try having it (smaller amount) with a meal and see how you go. Please share your experience with the list and how you doing. We can all learn from your experience. Speedy recovery! Blessings, Margret:-) -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ True peace only comes from Jesus, the Prince of Peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Steve, Go see a doctor. Your symptoms sound pretty serious, they may be unrelated to Kombucha, or the Kombucha might have somehow caused an existing infection the flare up, or whatever. But it definitely sounds like an infection, maybe in your stomach (ulcer?) or bladder. These can be very dangerous. I'm not a big fan of doctors, but I really think you need a medical opinion. Like, now. If you don't have a regular doctor who can see you right away, go to the emergency room of the nearest hospital. :j Steve wrote: > I made my first batch (fermented about 6 days), drank about 6 ounces > twice a day, no problems except a little queasy the on the first cup. > The second batch, I let it ferment longer (9 days), started drinking > the same amount, started feeling gurgling in the stomach, and sort of > a cold sweat, and had to rush to the bathroom shortly afterward, > continuing the bathromm trend way too often. That went on for 2 days , > as I continued 6oz. in the morning and 6oz. at night. I woke up around > 5 in the morning today, had to rush to the bathroom again. While in > there started with severe stomach pain, pins and needles cold sweat, > and started to black out, and then could'nt walk without bumping into > the walls, furniture, etc. I decided not to have kombucha for a bit > until I start to feel like I am back to normal. What is going on? Am I > extremely toxic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I guess that is what I'll have to do, but probably after at least a couple more days as the thought of taking ANY right now gives me the shivers. I hav'nt been eating any junk food, just whole foods, but maybe all the extra lacto- fermented beets, cabbage, kefir (which are also extremely 'cleansing') was just too much? > > > > I made my first batch (fermented about 6 days), drank about 6 > ounces > > twice a day, no problems except a little queasy the on the first > cup. > > The second batch, I let it ferment longer (9 days), started > drinking > > the same amount, started feeling gurgling in the stomach, and sort > of > > a cold sweat, and had to rush to the bathroom shortly afterward, > > continuing the bathromm trend way too often. That went on for 2 > days , > > as I continued 6oz. in the morning and 6oz. at night. I woke up > around > > 5 in the morning today, had to rush to the bathroom again. While > in > > there started with severe stomach pain, pins and needles cold > sweat, > > and started to black out, and then could'nt walk without bumping > into > > the walls, furniture, etc. I decided not to have kombucha for a > bit > > until I start to feel like I am back to normal. What is going on? > Am I > > extremely toxic? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 That does sound like quite a bit. Maybe erring on the side of caution would be a good way to start. Your symptoms sounded a bit like food poisoning. Any possibility of that? Regards, Bruce ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve but maybe all the extra lacto- fermented beets, cabbage, kefir (which are also extremely 'cleansing') was just too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I had been drinking more water, as the Kombucha seemed to increase my thirst. However, with all the diarrhea, loose stools, maybe I was dehidrated as well. Is Kombucha a diuretic? I do usually feel a slight burning sensation in my stomach after I drink it, but why don't you think that I could be toxic as well? It felt similar to when I first started 'juicing' although nowhere as intense. There was also the 'prickly' feeling all over my skin, especially my forehead, signifying a release of toxins... I hav'nt had any Kombucha today and I feel slightly better, just a headache, and a feeling of weakness, plus still many trips to the bathroom. > > > I made my first batch (fermented about 6 days), drank about 6 ounces > > twice a day, no problems except a little queasy the on the first cup. > > Steve, why not go back to the 6 or 7 day less acidic brew? > It could very well be that your digestion objects to the higher acidity. > > > The second batch, I let it ferment longer (9 days), started drinking > > the same amount, started feeling gurgling in the stomach, and sort of > > a cold sweat, and had to rush to the bathroom shortly afterward, > > continuing the bathromm trend way too often. That went on for 2 days , > > as I continued 6oz. in the morning and 6oz. at night. I woke up around > > 5 in the morning today, had to rush to the bathroom again. While in > > there started with severe stomach pain, pins and needles cold sweat, > > and started to black out, and then could'nt walk without bumping into > > the walls, furniture, etc. > > That does sound serious! > It seems to me like a serious case of dehydration to me. > > > I decided not to have kombucha for a bit > > until I start to feel like I am back to normal. What is going on? Am I > > extremely toxic? > > I don't think you are, Steve. I believe it is more a case of too much > acidic Kombucha too quickly and with not enough water. > > My advice is: start drinking your KT slightly diluted with water and > maybe only half the quantity you drank before. Water intake is very > important! Minimum of same amount of extra water to amount of KT, but > twice the amount would be better. > > If you had the KT on an empty stomach, try having it (smaller amount) > with a meal and see how you go. > > Please share your experience with the list and how you doing. > We can all learn from your experience. > > Speedy recovery! > > Blessings, > > Margret:-) > -- > +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ > <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< > http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com > +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ > > True peace only comes from Jesus, the Prince of Peace. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I guess that is hard to say, although, I hav'nt eaten anything unusual that I can think of. It really seems to start after drinking the KT... > > > That does sound like quite a bit. Maybe erring on the side of caution would be a good way to start. > > Your symptoms sounded a bit like food poisoning. Any possibility of that? > > Regards, > > Bruce > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Steve > > but > > maybe all the extra lacto- fermented beets, cabbage, kefir (which > > are also extremely 'cleansing') was just too much? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I'm not a big fan of doctors either. I do feel SOME relief today as I and not blacking out or walking into the walls, furniture anymore (that portion actually lasted about 20 mins). If I feel like that again, I am definately taking a trip to the emergency room. Anything short of that I will go to see a naturopath. What makes you suggest an infection? Have you had these symptoms and subsequent diagnosis? > > I made my first batch (fermented about 6 days), drank about 6 ounces > > twice a day, no problems except a little queasy the on the first cup. > > The second batch, I let it ferment longer (9 days), started drinking > > the same amount, started feeling gurgling in the stomach, and sort of > > a cold sweat, and had to rush to the bathroom shortly afterward, > > continuing the bathromm trend way too often. That went on for 2 days , > > as I continued 6oz. in the morning and 6oz. at night. I woke up around > > 5 in the morning today, had to rush to the bathroom again. While in > > there started with severe stomach pain, pins and needles cold sweat, > > and started to black out, and then could'nt walk without bumping into > > the walls, furniture, etc. I decided not to have kombucha for a bit > > until I start to feel like I am back to normal. What is going on? Am I > > extremely toxic? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 no matter what natural therapy you use start with a tiny amount Re: ...became sick! I'm not a big fan of doctors either. I do feel SOME relief today as I and not blacking out or walking into the walls, furniture anymore (that portion actually lasted about 20 mins). If I feel like that again, I am definately taking a trip to the emergency room. Anything short of that I will go to see a naturopath. What makes you suggest an infection? Have you had these symptoms and subsequent diagnosis? > > I made my first batch (fermented about 6 days), drank about 6 ounces > > twice a day, no problems except a little queasy the on the first cup. > > The second batch, I let it ferment longer (9 days), started drinking > > the same amount, started feeling gurgling in the stomach, and sort of > > a cold sweat, and had to rush to the bathroom shortly afterward, > > continuing the bathromm trend way too often. That went on for 2 days , > > as I continued 6oz. in the morning and 6oz. at night. I woke up around > > 5 in the morning today, had to rush to the bathroom again. While in > > there started with severe stomach pain, pins and needles cold sweat, > > and started to black out, and then could'nt walk without bumping into > > the walls, furniture, etc. I decided not to have kombucha for a bit > > until I start to feel like I am back to normal. What is going on? Am I > > extremely toxic? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 In message <evehm8+2bnseGroups> you wrote: > I had been drinking more water, as the Kombucha seemed to increase > my thirst. However, with all the diarrhea, loose stools, maybe I was > dehidrated as well. Is Kombucha a diuretic? I do usually feel a > slight burning sensation in my stomach after I drink it, but why > don't you think that I could be toxic as well? It felt similar to > when I first started 'juicing' although nowhere as intense. There > was also the 'prickly' feeling all over my skin, especially my > forehead, signifying a release of toxins... > I hav'nt had any Kombucha today and I feel slightly better, just a > headache, and a feeling of weakness, plus still many trips to the > bathroom. Yes, Steve, as you are finding out, this seems to be a very strong detox reaction aggravated by dehydration. Yes, Kombucha is a strong diuretic!! Lots of water needs to be drink with it to flush the poisons out properly through the urinary system, because if they can't come out that way the toxins will cause disturbances in different parts of your body, especially the digestive tract. The reason why the longer brewed Kombucha may have been so much more active was because of the greater acidity which is the 'main active principle' in the tonic. In your case this will have been too strong too much too often. It was wise to lay off the Kombucha a bit. When you feel ready to start again take very small amounts with water. It seems to have been too acidic on your stomach and there should not be a burning sensation. It would be much better to dilute the KT with water or consume it with a meal. Be kind to the linings of your stomach. :-) All the best for your further Kombucha journey when the whistle blows again ... ;-) Blessings, Margret:-) -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Steve wrote: > What makes you suggest an infection? Have you had these symptoms and > subsequent diagnosis? Yes, kidney and bladder infections. Symptoms were frequent need to urinate (painfully) and dizzyness and disequilibrium. In general, many infections release toxins into your system that can affect unrelated parts. " Detox " symptoms and symptoms of acute infections can be very similar. Bladder infections can be very dangerous, especially for men. Your symptoms don't really sound like an ulcer, but that's something I'm paranoid about because they are increasingly common and a friend of mine just had his stomach removed after it ruptured. You can live without a stomach, but it's no fun, and it's be much harder to live a healthy life. :j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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