Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Just like I have said, there is no one cause of any " disease " and there is no one cure. But, ozone is a very effective therapy in helping the body to clean itself and allow it to heal itself by boosting the immune system. anyone who leaves this out of their box-of-tricks is like leaving a hammer out of a carpenter's toolbox..........and then there is the saw, and the plane and the.............. you get my drift. :-) Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: Re: Dr.B. reply to Dick on ozone passing intobloodw/sauna I'm with Jefferey; I think of o3 as a modality like many others, that can contribute to a cure. I don't think any one thing will do the job. Perhaps stating that it cures cancer is an " over " statement?- but still true in a sense...... In one extreme sense, if you drank whiskey all day, and did a o3 sauna at night, chances are that you would not " cure " cancer. At the other end, if you juiced all day, and did a o3 sauna daily, your chances are much better. But, was it the juice or the o3 that did the job? Probably both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 > Just like I have said, there is no one cause of any " disease " and > there is no one cure. Actually, I would disagree with this... Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1931 in medicine for discovering the cause of ALL cancer, which was, basically, oxygen deprivation at the cellular level. I submit to you that this is the physical cause of ALL disease, although there are different things that can cause this lack of oxygen (poor diet, weak genetic structure (from parents who ate a poor diet, etc), exposure to chemical toxins, lack of exercise, etc, combination of these). So, anything that will eliminate this oxygen deprivation, will cure any disease. Of course, I am not suggesting that it is quite that simple in reality - one would have to STOP doing the things that caused the lack of oxygen, and start doing things that promoted a high oxygen presence at the cellular level, like eating properly, getting some quality exercise, fresh air, sunshine, etc., but ozone can definitely remedy the IMMEDIATE problem and SAVE LIVES, REGARDLESS of what specific actions by the one who is sick 'caused' the disease in the first place, by promoting a GENERAL detox of the body, and promoting a GENERAL increase in tissue oxygenation at the cellular level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Cell apoptosis, i.e. death, is programmed. We ain't gonna live forever. That's not the way our bodies are built, no matter how much 02. Let's be realistic. > > Just like I have said, there is no one cause of any " disease " and > > there is no one cure. > > Actually, I would disagree with this... > > Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1931 in medicine for discovering the > cause of ALL cancer, which was, basically, oxygen deprivation at the > cellular level. > > I submit to you that this is the physical cause of ALL disease, although > there are different things that can cause this lack of oxygen (poor > diet, weak genetic structure (from parents who ate a poor diet, etc), > exposure to chemical toxins, lack of exercise, etc, combination of these). > > So, anything that will eliminate this oxygen deprivation, will cure any > disease. Of course, I am not suggesting that it is quite that simple in > reality - one would have to STOP doing the things that caused the lack > of oxygen, and start doing things that promoted a high oxygen presence > at the cellular level, like eating properly, getting some quality > exercise, fresh air, sunshine, etc., but ozone can definitely remedy the > IMMEDIATE problem and SAVE LIVES, REGARDLESS of what specific actions by > the one who is sick 'caused' the disease in the first place, by > promoting a GENERAL detox of the body, and promoting a GENERAL increase > in tissue oxygenation at the cellular level. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 FWIW, as I mentioned in the past, there is test marker for overall liver function,( and now the name escapes me) but it is GTP or something and G is definately part of the name; anyway, my test consistently show this marker at 32 with 0-50 being neutral or normal. People who are in trouble, for example those with hcv and alchoholism, cirhosis and so on, with a range over 100, do not have a favorable prognosis, according to MDs. After doing many o3 IVs at 50cc, my test marker began to drop to 13 at last test. However, the inflamation factors remained the same, leading me to believe that the o3 has a 2 edged sword. So, I believe that oxygen levels do have a positive impact. It is the correct balance that is the ticket. On the other hand, I have never looked and felt better, after Approx 30 IVs of 150grams of Vit C. Got normal liver function test across the board as well. Now, I find out that Vit c IVs for hcv are best if done daily for 2 weeks, rather that 2x weekly. Another hard financial lesson, but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 > Cell apoptosis, i.e. death, is programmed. We ain't gonna live > forever. That's not the way our bodies are built, no matter how much > 02. Let's be realistic. Yes let's... How precisely did you get 'we can live forever' from what I wrote below?? >> Just like I have said, there is no one cause of any " disease " and >> there is no one cure. > Actually, I would disagree with this... > > Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1931 in medicine for > > discovering the cause of ALL cancer, which was, basically, oxygen > deprivation at the cellular level. > > I submit to you that this is the physical cause of ALL disease, > although there are different things that can cause this lack of > oxygen (poor diet, weak genetic structure (from parents who ate a > poor diet, etc), exposure to chemical toxins, lack of exercise, > etc, combination of these). > > So, anything that will eliminate this oxygen deprivation, will cure > any disease. Of course, I am not suggesting that it is quite that > simple in reality - one would have to STOP doing the things that > caused the lack of oxygen, and start doing things that promoted a > high oxygen presence at the cellular level, like eating properly, > getting some quality exercise, fresh air, sunshine, etc., but ozone > can definitely remedy the IMMEDIATE problem and SAVE LIVES, > REGARDLESS of what specific actions by the one who is sick 'caused' > the disease in the first place, by promoting a GENERAL detox of > the body, and promoting a GENERAL increase in tissue oxygenation at > the cellular level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 > Cell apoptosis, i.e. death, is programmed. We ain't gonna live > forever. That's not the way our bodies are built, no matter how much > 02. Let's be realistic. Yes let's... How precisely did you get 'we can live forever' from what I wrote below?? >> Just like I have said, there is no one cause of any " disease " and >> there is no one cure. > Actually, I would disagree with this... > > Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1931 in medicine for > > discovering the cause of ALL cancer, which was, basically, oxygen > deprivation at the cellular level. > > I submit to you that this is the physical cause of ALL disease, > although there are different things that can cause this lack of > oxygen (poor diet, weak genetic structure (from parents who ate a > poor diet, etc), exposure to chemical toxins, lack of exercise, > etc, combination of these). > > So, anything that will eliminate this oxygen deprivation, will cure > any disease. Of course, I am not suggesting that it is quite that > simple in reality - one would have to STOP doing the things that > caused the lack of oxygen, and start doing things that promoted a > high oxygen presence at the cellular level, like eating properly, > getting some quality exercise, fresh air, sunshine, etc., but ozone > can definitely remedy the IMMEDIATE problem and SAVE LIVES, > REGARDLESS of what specific actions by the one who is sick 'caused' > the disease in the first place, by promoting a GENERAL detox of > the body, and promoting a GENERAL increase in tissue oxygenation at > the cellular level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 The " disease " process is part of life and if we accept that we will understand that oxygen is not going to cure all diseases. > > Cell apoptosis, i.e. death, is programmed. We ain't gonna live > > forever. That's not the way our bodies are built, no matter how much > > 02. Let's be realistic. > > Yes let's... > > How precisely did you get 'we can live forever' from what I wrote below?? > > > > >> Just like I have said, there is no one cause of any " disease " and > >> there is no one cure. > > > Actually, I would disagree with this... > > > > Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1931 in medicine for > > > > discovering the cause of ALL cancer, which was, basically, oxygen > > deprivation at the cellular level. > > > > I submit to you that this is the physical cause of ALL disease, > > although there are different things that can cause this lack of > > oxygen (poor diet, weak genetic structure (from parents who ate a > > poor diet, etc), exposure to chemical toxins, lack of exercise, > > etc, combination of these). > > > > So, anything that will eliminate this oxygen deprivation, will cure > > any disease. Of course, I am not suggesting that it is quite that > > simple in reality - one would have to STOP doing the things that > > caused the lack of oxygen, and start doing things that promoted a > > high oxygen presence at the cellular level, like eating properly, > > getting some quality exercise, fresh air, sunshine, etc., but ozone > > can definitely remedy the IMMEDIATE problem and SAVE LIVES, > > REGARDLESS of what specific actions by the one who is sick 'caused' > > the disease in the first place, by promoting a GENERAL detox of > > the body, and promoting a GENERAL increase in tissue oxygenation at > > the cellular level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 The " disease " process is part of life and if we accept that we will understand that oxygen is not going to cure all diseases. > > Cell apoptosis, i.e. death, is programmed. We ain't gonna live > > forever. That's not the way our bodies are built, no matter how much > > 02. Let's be realistic. > > Yes let's... > > How precisely did you get 'we can live forever' from what I wrote below?? > > > > >> Just like I have said, there is no one cause of any " disease " and > >> there is no one cure. > > > Actually, I would disagree with this... > > > > Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1931 in medicine for > > > > discovering the cause of ALL cancer, which was, basically, oxygen > > deprivation at the cellular level. > > > > I submit to you that this is the physical cause of ALL disease, > > although there are different things that can cause this lack of > > oxygen (poor diet, weak genetic structure (from parents who ate a > > poor diet, etc), exposure to chemical toxins, lack of exercise, > > etc, combination of these). > > > > So, anything that will eliminate this oxygen deprivation, will cure > > any disease. Of course, I am not suggesting that it is quite that > > simple in reality - one would have to STOP doing the things that > > caused the lack of oxygen, and start doing things that promoted a > > high oxygen presence at the cellular level, like eating properly, > > getting some quality exercise, fresh air, sunshine, etc., but ozone > > can definitely remedy the IMMEDIATE problem and SAVE LIVES, > > REGARDLESS of what specific actions by the one who is sick 'caused' > > the disease in the first place, by promoting a GENERAL detox of > > the body, and promoting a GENERAL increase in tissue oxygenation at > > the cellular level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 > The " disease " process is part of life and if we accept that we will > understand that oxygen is not going to cure all diseases. Well, excuse me, but I for one do NOT accept that. Disease is NOT a natural part of life - it is, in fact, very UNNATURAL - although it is a NORMAL part of the AVERAGE AMERICAN's life, due to the average Americsn's very poor diet/lifestyle choices. Besides - I did not say 'oxygen', I said OZONE - they are very different beasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 WOW Jill, What a sad commentary on life. I simply don't believe it. I don't believe oxygen alone (or anything else alone) will " cure " anything but combined with the right attitude, environment (which we build and create), oxygen, and other factors and avoiding certain others (that help create disease), help us to live a life in which disease has no part. Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: Dr.B. reply to Dick on ozone passing intobloodw/sauna The " disease " process is part of life and if we accept that we will understand that oxygen is not going to cure all diseases. > > Cell apoptosis, i.e. death, is programmed. We ain't gonna live > > forever. That's not the way our bodies are built, no matter how much > > 02. Let's be realistic. > > Yes let's... > > How precisely did you get 'we can live forever' from what I wrote below?? > > > > >> Just like I have said, there is no one cause of any " disease " and > >> there is no one cure. > > > Actually, I would disagree with this... > > > > Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1931 in medicine for > > > > discovering the cause of ALL cancer, which was, basically, oxygen > > deprivation at the cellular level. > > > > I submit to you that this is the physical cause of ALL disease, > > although there are different things that can cause this lack of > > oxygen (poor diet, weak genetic structure (from parents who ate a > > poor diet, etc), exposure to chemical toxins, lack of exercise, > > etc, combination of these). > > > > So, anything that will eliminate this oxygen deprivation, will cure > > any disease. Of course, I am not suggesting that it is quite that > > simple in reality - one would have to STOP doing the things that > > caused the lack of oxygen, and start doing things that promoted a > > high oxygen presence at the cellular level, like eating properly, > > getting some quality exercise, fresh air, sunshine, etc., but ozone > > can definitely remedy the IMMEDIATE problem and SAVE LIVES, > > REGARDLESS of what specific actions by the one who is sick 'caused' > > the disease in the first place, by promoting a GENERAL detox of > > the body, and promoting a GENERAL increase in tissue oxygenation at > > the cellular level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Ken, saying it's a sad commentary is like saying rain is a sad commentary on the sun, or night is a sad commentary on day, or death is a sad commentary on life. Organisms are not eternal. They have built in senescence. Disease is inevitable, you don't just live a full vital life and then one day disappear. Look around you. I'm just a realist, as I think magical thinking does nobody any good. This doesn't mean a lot of disease can't be treated and avoided and improved, over a long period of time, depending on various factors. One must work within parameters of reality, not dreams. It is bracing, and even enlivening, to look at the world as it is and then try to work maximally within those parameters. > > > Cell apoptosis, i.e. death, is programmed. We ain't gonna live > > > forever. That's not the way our bodies are built, no matter how > much > > > 02. Let's be realistic. > > > > Yes let's... > > > > How precisely did you get 'we can live forever' from what I wrote > below?? > > > > > > > > >> Just like I have said, there is no one cause of any " disease " and > > >> there is no one cure. > > > > > Actually, I would disagree with this... > > > > > > Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1931 in medicine for > > > > > > discovering the cause of ALL cancer, which was, basically, oxygen > > > deprivation at the cellular level. > > > > > > I submit to you that this is the physical cause of ALL disease, > > > although there are different things that can cause this lack of > > > oxygen (poor diet, weak genetic structure (from parents who ate a > > > poor diet, etc), exposure to chemical toxins, lack of exercise, > > > etc, combination of these). > > > > > > So, anything that will eliminate this oxygen deprivation, will > cure > > > any disease. Of course, I am not suggesting that it is quite that > > > simple in reality - one would have to STOP doing the things that > > > caused the lack of oxygen, and start doing things that promoted a > > > high oxygen presence at the cellular level, like eating properly, > > > getting some quality exercise, fresh air, sunshine, etc., but > ozone > > > can definitely remedy the IMMEDIATE problem and SAVE LIVES, > > > REGARDLESS of what specific actions by the one who is > sick 'caused' > > > the disease in the first place, by promoting a GENERAL detox of > > > the body, and promoting a GENERAL increase in tissue oxygenation > at > > > the cellular level. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Y'all are too black and white. (Get the pun). Nobody lives forever. Nobody goes from old to young forever. This is getting to be a silly conversation. I have a great attitude, frankly. > > > > > Cell apoptosis, i.e. death, is programmed. We ain't gonna > > live > > > > > forever. That's not the way our bodies are built, no matter > > how > > > much > > > > > 02. Let's be realistic. > > > > > > > > Yes let's... > > > > > > > > How precisely did you get 'we can live forever' from what I > > wrote > > > below?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Just like I have said, there is no one cause of > > any " disease " and > > > > >> there is no one cure. > > > > > > > > > Actually, I would disagree with this... > > > > > > > > > > Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1931 in medicine for > > > > > > > > > > discovering the cause of ALL cancer, which was, basically, > > oxygen > > > > > deprivation at the cellular level. > > > > > > > > > > I submit to you that this is the physical cause of ALL > > disease, > > > > > although there are different things that can cause this lack > > of > > > > > oxygen (poor diet, weak genetic structure (from parents who > > ate a > > > > > poor diet, etc), exposure to chemical toxins, lack of > > exercise, > > > > > etc, combination of these). > > > > > > > > > > So, anything that will eliminate this oxygen deprivation, > > will > > > cure > > > > > any disease. Of course, I am not suggesting that it is quite > > that > > > > > simple in reality - one would have to STOP doing the things > > that > > > > > caused the lack of oxygen, and start doing things that > > promoted a > > > > > high oxygen presence at the cellular level, like eating > > properly, > > > > > getting some quality exercise, fresh air, sunshine, etc., but > > > ozone > > > > > can definitely remedy the IMMEDIATE problem and SAVE LIVES, > > > > > REGARDLESS of what specific actions by the one who is > > > sick 'caused' > > > > > the disease in the first place, by promoting a GENERAL detox > > of > > > > > the body, and promoting a GENERAL increase in tissue > > oxygenation > > > at > > > > > the cellular level. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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