Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 i'm not paying for treatments. i bought a fir sauna. more expensive than one lamp, but i think it will help me sweat more. if the fir treatments get my lungs moving junk then it will surpass my expectations. i think my body is just holding onto this stuff because its not ready yet to deal with heavy lung detox. i'm already at my limit with liver/intestine/mercury detox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Okay, so let me get this straight. Aerobic pathogens have a positive charge and a negatively charged electron kills them? Thanks Donna Re: Re: agrisept for mold/fir Ozone destroys pathogens by 2 separate mechanisms. The oxygen singlet only destroys anaerobic pathogens. When the O2 singlet is released, the negatively charged electron holding it is also released, destroying aerobic pathogens with a positive charge. Ozone is electrotherapy, not oxygen therapy. The proof of this is tthat all research of ozone therapies uses oxygen as the control group. For this reason, ozone is unique among oxidative therapies. jim jill1313 wrote: >NO, they're not similar. > >Ozone kills pathogens through the singlet oxygen. > >Oxygen can do that too, but hyperbaric oxygen is quite different in >its effect on the body, its mechanism, etc. You are pushing oxygen >into the plasma under pressure. > > > > >>maybe saul could explain it better >> >>i thought ozone was o3. the oxygen singlet gets released because >> >> >ozone is > > >>unstable, and then you are also left with o2. this is where i >> >> >thought the > > >>similarity lied. >> >> > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 what kind did you buy? Also, Jim, I was wondering if one lamp would be sufficient myself, in a systemic infection (such as lyme). How does it help a lung infection? It seems it would be excellent for localized problems? I know that hyperbaric and sauna together would be good. So am just curious, thx. > i'm not paying for treatments. i bought a fir sauna. more expensive than one > lamp, but i think it will help me sweat more. > > if the fir treatments get my lungs moving junk then it will surpass my > expectations. i think my body is just holding onto this stuff because its > not ready yet to deal with heavy lung detox. i'm already at my limit with > liver/intestine/mercury detox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 the brand is saunacore. i invited the dealer to join this list as he had a good success with his own health problems using fir sauna and he seems to know alot about the subject. hyperbaric is one of the things i have not tried, although i'm sure it would help. i do ozone regulary and from what i understand there are similarities in their effect. right before i got the ozone sauna i was desperate for oxygen therapy and was mainly interested in hyperbaric. ozone was the less expensive option and i was suffocating so i opted for it. right now hyperbaric is too expensive for me. i researched it a while ago and it was 150 per treatment in manhattan. i called a few hospitals to see if it could be covered under insurance, and no luck. there is a standard list of diseases that are covered with with insurance, but i have forgotten since then. my lungs are alot worse than they were then, so maybe i will check back into it regarding lung problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 >my lungs are alot worse than they were then, so maybe i will check back into >it regarding lung problems. > > >Hi _____________ again, I don't know your name other than aluckower, I had lung problems for the past 36 years, diagnosed when I was 14 with asthma, didn't do much other than use an inhaler till I was about l8, not to many real problems and then I started smoking, I did on and off for many years, and know it didn't help my breathing. After I had my son, all things went to hell, the stress levels really blew my breathing and my adrenals. Looking back I see that my diet hugely contributed to my breathing problems, I have been on the atkins program for 3 months and my breathing is much better, I am getting the nutrients I need and protein and I am staying away from corn, and wheat and salt.,( I was a big chip eater) its been interesting seeing my intestines getting more healthy shows up in my lungs., when my sewer system is plugged or full of junk stuff I know its going to come out one of the places that it can and for me its my lungs. good luck with yours Antonia > > -- Antonia Breakthrough Coaching http://www.Body-dynamics.com 920-868-9599 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Thx I will go google it. Ozone and hyperbaric are quite different. Ozone kills with a singlet of oxygen. Hyperbaric pushes o2 (oxygen) into your plasma under pressure. It can improve many health problems, and I am pretty sure it is killing some lyme because I am now feeling awful--after 3 home sessions--all my lyme symptoms are flaring up. That is what happens with lyme--you kill some and it releases neurotoxins and you feel worse. I guess I hadn't anticipated this with a home chamber as it goes to 1.3, and the accepted wisdom is that's not enough pressure to kill lyme. But apparently the accepted wisdom is wrong. Hyperbaric will improve yoru lung function, improve your cells' functioning--chronic illness tends to make one hypoxic. If you email me privately I can explain more. > the brand is saunacore. i invited the dealer to join this list as he had a > good success with his own health problems using fir sauna and he seems to > know alot about the subject. > > hyperbaric is one of the things i have not tried, although i'm sure it would > help. i do ozone regulary and from what i understand there are similarities > in their effect. right before i got the ozone sauna i was desperate for > oxygen therapy and was mainly interested in hyperbaric. ozone was the less > expensive option and i was suffocating so i opted for it. > > right now hyperbaric is too expensive for me. i researched it a while ago > and it was 150 per treatment in manhattan. i called a few hospitals to see > if it could be covered under insurance, and no luck. there is a standard > list of diseases that are covered with with insurance, but i have forgotten > since then. > > my lungs are alot worse than they were then, so maybe i will check back into > it regarding lung problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 i've been a variation of that diet for 12 years. i think in a strange way, the lung problems are a result of the diet working for me. the longer i stay on the diet, the deeper the cleansing effect it has. for the first 2 years i passed tons of impacted stuff my from my intestines. then the next few years i passed thousands of worms. then diverticulitis (that i didnt even know i had) started reversing itself and healing. i could tell by the shape of the stuff that came out. only recently has the lung and mercury issue appeared. so i guess i can look at it as a necessary cleansing reaction. sometimes i'm not sure. even 12 years later, if i eat only meat and veggies for two days straight i will produce enormous amounts of old intestinal waste. the diet is extremely powerful, and with liver cleansing i have to intentionally not be strict with the diet or else the cleansing reactions are way too intense. as long as you're into the atkins diet, you might want to check out the primal diet. it's similar, but the primal diet is an all raw version. if you eat dairy, then you might find the raw dairy to be much better. i'm not sure if atkins allows dairy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 maybe saul could explain it better i thought ozone was o3. the oxygen singlet gets released because ozone is unstable, and then you are also left with o2. this is where i thought the similarity lied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Dear Arthur, O2 + O1 = O3 O3 = O2 + O1 It is the singlet O1 that is doing the work. The O2 is just along for the ride. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " aluckower " <aluckower@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: Re: Re: agrisept for mold/fir Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:36:49 -0400 maybe saul could explain it better i thought ozone was o3. the oxygen singlet gets released because ozone is unstable, and then you are also left with o2. this is where i thought the similarity lied. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 NO, they're not similar. Ozone kills pathogens through the singlet oxygen. Oxygen can do that too, but hyperbaric oxygen is quite different in its effect on the body, its mechanism, etc. You are pushing oxygen into the plasma under pressure. > maybe saul could explain it better > > i thought ozone was o3. the oxygen singlet gets released because ozone is > unstable, and then you are also left with o2. this is where i thought the > similarity lied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Right. I may still visit you in Seattle one of these days...for my 3 month trial to get well. Offer still open? But not for a while. Anyway, the point about hyperbaric is it is not just breathing oxygen, it is forcing it into plasma which then goes into tissue, under pressure. That's why it can be used for instance for brain trauma--to heal brain injury. > Dear Arthur, > > O2 + O1 = O3 > > O3 = O2 + O1 > > It is the singlet O1 that is doing the work. The O2 is just along for the > ride. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: " aluckower " <aluckower@n...> > Reply-oxyplus > <oxyplus > > Subject: Re: Re: agrisept for mold/fir > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:36:49 -0400 > > maybe saul could explain it better > > i thought ozone was o3. the oxygen singlet gets released because ozone is > unstable, and then you are also left with o2. this is where i thought the > similarity lied. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 You are right, heat is good. I want to add it into the hyperbaric sooner or later. I don't know if it was you or somebody else who suggested a poor man's sauna of two lamps int he bathroom, sit between them. Would cost about $300 as opposed to thousands. I dunnol... I am glad it is helping you. > > > > > >>i'm not paying for treatments. i bought a fir sauna. more expensive > >> > >> > >than one > > > > > >>lamp, but i think it will help me sweat more. > >> > >>if the fir treatments get my lungs moving junk then it will surpass > >> > >> > >my > > > > > >>expectations. i think my body is just holding onto this stuff > >> > >> > >because its > > > > > >>not ready yet to deal with heavy lung detox. i'm already at my > >> > >> > >limit with > > > > > >>liver/intestine/mercury detox. > >> > >> > > > > > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 saul i understand now what you mean by ozone being an electrical therapy. does it also have weak characteristics of an oxygen therapy? even though the o2 is just along for the ride, it is still present and will have some effect, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Jill, I have the dual model of the CQ-27 but I only use one lamp at a time, so the CQ-27 is ample. FIR penetrates 4-6 iches into the body, and does what FIR does wherever it is applied, lungs included. I do the lungs both front and rear, as one alone doesn't get it all. The idea of an FIRsauna is to do the wholebody at once. That may take less time, but there is nothing to say it is intrinsically more effective than a single lamp. Virtually all of the early Chinese research was done with single lamps, so the seeming miracles attributed to FIR all apply to single lamps. FIR creates heat in the tissue, as opposed to through the tissue, as would happen with a simple heat source. I believe some of the loosening up of the gunk in the lungs is from the heat. Raising tissue temperature is one of the body's major means of fighting infections -- fever. The FIR accomplishes this along with other things. FIR is also shown to trigger 22 cell repair & immune responses, and is believed to trigger over 40 more, but they haven't been proven yet. If Ifind out what the specific mechanisms are that help the lungs, that would be nice. However, I'm not as intrinsically interested in how, since I am more of an empiricist. If it works, that is enough. It works fine on the lungs with a simple TDP lamp. Fighting to survive from a persistent fungal infection, the ability to breathe is all the evidence I care about at present. jim jill1313 wrote: >what kind did you buy? > >Also, Jim, I was wondering if one lamp would be sufficient myself, in >a systemic infection (such as lyme). How does it help a lung >infection? It seems it would be excellent for localized problems? > >I know that hyperbaric and sauna together would be good. So am just >curious, thx. > > > > > > >>i'm not paying for treatments. i bought a fir sauna. more expensive >> >> >than one > > >>lamp, but i think it will help me sweat more. >> >>if the fir treatments get my lungs moving junk then it will surpass >> >> >my > > >>expectations. i think my body is just holding onto this stuff >> >> >because its > > >>not ready yet to deal with heavy lung detox. i'm already at my >> >> >limit with > > >>liver/intestine/mercury detox. >> >> > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Ozone destroys pathogens by 2 separate mechanisms. The oxygen singlet only destroys anaerobic pathogens. When the O2 singlet is released, the negatively charged electron holding it is also released, destroying aerobic pathogens with a positive charge. Ozone is electrotherapy, not oxygen therapy. The proof of this is tthat all research of ozone therapies uses oxygen as the control group. For this reason, ozone is unique among oxidative therapies. jim jill1313 wrote: >NO, they're not similar. > >Ozone kills pathogens through the singlet oxygen. > >Oxygen can do that too, but hyperbaric oxygen is quite different in >its effect on the body, its mechanism, etc. You are pushing oxygen >into the plasma under pressure. > > > > >>maybe saul could explain it better >> >>i thought ozone was o3. the oxygen singlet gets released because >> >> >ozone is > > >>unstable, and then you are also left with o2. this is where i >> >> >thought the > > >>similarity lied. >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Jill, I have the dual lampmodel from the same supplier. It costs $250. One could use it front and back at the same time, but that would require sitting during the treatment. I like to lie down, so I use only one lamp at a time. jim jill1313 wrote: >You are right, heat is good. I want to add it into the hyperbaric >sooner or later. I don't know if it was you or somebody else who >suggested a poor man's sauna of two lamps int he bathroom, sit >between them. Would cost about $300 as opposed to thousands. I >dunnol... > >I am glad it is helping you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Art, I believe you misunderstood Saul. He said the oxygen singlet (O1) did the job, along with the electron, and that the oxygen molecule (O2) was just along for the ride. The O1 and the negative electron are both at work. jim aluckower wrote: >saul > >i understand now what you mean by ozone being an electrical therapy. > >does it also have weak characteristics of an oxygen therapy? even though the >o2 is just along for the ride, it is still present and will have some >effect, correct? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Hi, Maybe I missed it but have you tried the nebulizer with a mixture of CS and MSM? I think it 1 oz. of CS with 1/4 tsp. MSM. I know we've talked about it on other lists. People have had very good results with this. Might be something you would like to try. Also, the mini trampoline, when done consistently, really helps the lungs. Gail > > my lungs are alot worse than they were then, so maybe i will check back into > it regarding lung problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Can HP beused in a nebulizer? GypsyRose Hi, Maybe I missed it but have you tried the nebulizer with a mixture of CS and MSM? I think it 1 oz. of CS with 1/4 tsp. MSM. I know we've talked about it on other lists. People have had very good results with this. Might be something you would like to try. Also, the mini trampoline, when done consistently, really helps the lungs. Gail > > my lungs are alot worse than they were then, so maybe i will check back into > it regarding lung problems. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Donna, I didn't say that.You're being too all-inclusive for the Universe. I don't doubt there are negatively charged aerobic pathogens somewhere, but I believe most are positively charged. Saul might know. jim CountryGirl wrote: >Okay, so let me get this straight. Aerobic pathogens have a positive charge and a negatively charged electron kills them? > >Thanks >Donna > Re: Re: agrisept for mold/fir > > > Ozone destroys pathogens by 2 separate mechanisms. The oxygen singlet > only destroys anaerobic pathogens. When the O2 singlet is released, the > negatively charged electron holding it is also released, destroying > aerobic pathogens with a positive charge. > > Ozone is electrotherapy, not oxygen therapy. The proof of this is tthat > all research of ozone therapies uses oxygen as the control group. For > this reason, ozone is unique among oxidative therapies. > > jim > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 dear jill, i have treated lyme disease with a remedy called parozol. it contains of ozonides and oil form olive leaves, black walnut hulls, wormwood and cloves. it is able to pass the blood brain barrier. additionally i give allicin or high dosage garlic (also passes the blood brain barrier. alkalizing here is also a good choice. and fatty acids. if possible i also give borellia burgdorferi homepathically in a d200 potency. also, if possible i treat with a frequency generator and give the frequency 380.000 (or a range from 378.000 -382.000 hz) i have a few patients with lyme disease, and had it myself. .... just a few thoughts and maybe additional ideas for you. i feel with you... all the best marlene Re: agrisept for mold/fir > Thx I will go google it. > > Ozone and hyperbaric are quite different. Ozone kills with a singlet > of oxygen. > > Hyperbaric pushes o2 (oxygen) into your plasma under pressure. It > can improve many health problems, and I am pretty sure it is killing > some lyme because I am now feeling awful--after 3 home sessions--all > my lyme symptoms are flaring up. That is what happens with lyme--you > kill some and it releases neurotoxins and you feel worse. I guess I > hadn't anticipated this with a home chamber as it goes to 1.3, and > the accepted wisdom is that's not enough pressure to kill lyme. But > apparently the accepted wisdom is wrong. > > Hyperbaric will improve yoru lung function, improve your cells' > functioning--chronic illness tends to make one hypoxic. If you email > me privately I can explain more. > > > > the brand is saunacore. i invited the dealer to join this list as > he had a > > good success with his own health problems using fir sauna and he > seems to > > know alot about the subject. > > > > hyperbaric is one of the things i have not tried, although i'm sure > it would > > help. i do ozone regulary and from what i understand there are > similarities > > in their effect. right before i got the ozone sauna i was desperate > for > > oxygen therapy and was mainly interested in hyperbaric. ozone was > the less > > expensive option and i was suffocating so i opted for it. > > > > right now hyperbaric is too expensive for me. i researched it a > while ago > > and it was 150 per treatment in manhattan. i called a few hospitals > to see > > if it could be covered under insurance, and no luck. there is a > standard > > list of diseases that are covered with with insurance, but i have > forgotten > > since then. > > > > my lungs are alot worse than they were then, so maybe i will check > back into > > it regarding lung problems. > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires int > elligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you a > re a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 dear antonia, have you ever checked for ascaris????? this worm usually is present, when someone has asthma.when you do a thorough colon cleanse with arise and shine for instance, follow with a parasite cleanse and alkalize, your asthma should become better. in traditional chinese medicine, lungs and colon are connected in a meridian. blessings marlene Re: Re: agrisept for mold/fir > >my lungs are alot worse than they were then, so maybe i will check back into > >it regarding lung problems. > > > > > >Hi _____________ > > again, I don't know your name other than aluckower, I had lung problems for > the past 36 years, diagnosed when I was 14 with asthma, didn't do much other > than use an inhaler till I was about l8, not to many real problems and then I > started smoking, I did on and off for many years, and know it didn't help my > breathing. After I had my son, all things went to hell, the stress > levels really > blew my breathing and my adrenals. > Looking back I see that my diet hugely contributed to my breathing problems, > I have been on the atkins program for 3 months and my breathing is much > better, I am getting the nutrients I need and protein and I am staying away > from corn, and wheat and salt.,( I was a big chip eater) its been interesting > seeing my intestines getting more healthy shows up in my lungs., > > when my sewer system is plugged or full of junk stuff I know its going to > come out one of the places that it can and for me its my lungs. > good luck with yours > Antonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Antonia > Breakthrough Coaching > http://www.Body-dynamics.com > 920-868-9599 > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires int > elligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you a > re a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 Thanx! I have written you privately. > > > the brand is saunacore. i invited the dealer to join this list as > > he had a > > > good success with his own health problems using fir sauna and he > > seems to > > > know alot about the subject. > > > > > > hyperbaric is one of the things i have not tried, although i'm sure > > it would > > > help. i do ozone regulary and from what i understand there are > > similarities > > > in their effect. right before i got the ozone sauna i was desperate > > for > > > oxygen therapy and was mainly interested in hyperbaric. ozone was > > the less > > > expensive option and i was suffocating so i opted for it. > > > > > > right now hyperbaric is too expensive for me. i researched it a > > while ago > > > and it was 150 per treatment in manhattan. i called a few hospitals > > to see > > > if it could be covered under insurance, and no luck. there is a > > standard > > > list of diseases that are covered with with insurance, but i have > > forgotten > > > since then. > > > > > > my lungs are alot worse than they were then, so maybe i will check > > back into > > > it regarding lung problems. > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires int > > elligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your > own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY > responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without > consulting a medical professional, unless you a > > re a researcher or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 Then is it true that Homozon kills good and bad bacteria? anaerobic and aerobic bacteria ? Laurie Re: Re: agrisept for mold/fir Ozone destroys pathogens by 2 separate mechanisms. The oxygen singlet only destroys anaerobic pathogens. When the O2 singlet is released, the negatively charged electron holding it is also released, destroying aerobic pathogens with a positive charge. Ozone is electrotherapy, not oxygen therapy. The proof of this is tthat all research of ozone therapies uses oxygen as the control group. For this reason, ozone is unique among oxidative therapies. jim jill1313 wrote: >NO, they're not similar. > >Ozone kills pathogens through the singlet oxygen. > >Oxygen can do that too, but hyperbaric oxygen is quite different in >its effect on the body, its mechanism, etc. You are pushing oxygen >into the plasma under pressure. > > > > >>maybe saul could explain it better >> >>i thought ozone was o3. the oxygen singlet gets released because >> >> >ozone is > > >>unstable, and then you are also left with o2. this is where i >> >> >thought the > > >>similarity lied. >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 Yes, if diluted to the right dose like 1% Laurie Re: Re: agrisept for mold/fir Can HP beused in a nebulizer? GypsyRose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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