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No wonder kids are ending up with high BP. Have you seen the crap foods, targeted to kids, that are advertised on TV? It's all loaded with salt. Parents are the ones who need to wake up and start serving wholesome snacks instead of pre-packaged food.We have snacks for our grandkids that are seasonal. Currently we have been buying fresh English peas and cherries. They sit in bowls on the table and are irresistible as a snack. There's something about opening the peas, shelling and eating them that's hypnotic and the kids love it. We do too.We keep no pre-prepared junk foods in our home and the kids are used to it. They have to go elsewhere for Cheese-it's, Goldfish or soda, they know they won't find that stuff here and they're fine with it. If we have cookies around, it's because I made them from scratch, same

with almost everything from bread to mayo. That way I know exactly what's in our food.Parents need to start taking some real responsibility for what food is going into their precious children's bodies.Sorry for the rant. This just stirred me up.

Dianne

69, bi-lateral adenomas 1.2cm rt, 1cm left

25yr hx of HBP and low K.

Previously on 5 BP meds & 80MEQ K with

ever increasing BP

Diagnosed myself via Internet July 2010

Had to demand tests to confirm PA, from

scoffing NP

CKD. Kidney function fell after use of

contrast dye during CT scan 8/2010.

Now on 50mg Spiro, 12.5mg Atenolol

BP avg. 130/70

Dashing with very low Na (aim for 1,000mg)

and high enough K to keep me in range, but not so high as to further damage

kidneys.

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Alas of the bygone days when moms stayed at home and cooked delicious foods for all kids walking back and forth to/from schools J No wonder kids are ending up with high BP. Have you seen the crap foods, targeted to kids, that are advertised on TV? It's all loaded with salt. Parents are the ones who need to wake up and start serving wholesome snacks instead of pre-packaged food. [….] Dianne[...]_,___

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It could be lack of exercise too and most likely this is the bigger reason.

This is gonna hit a nerve with me (not because of what you wrote, but I mean the topic ) because I have real issues about the things they are doing with our kids related to this now. And I have to say I was one who was not a big guy, to the contrary I was 5'10" and 130ish in JH and HS, but I loved sports, I loved activity, I hated video games and the arcade (I don't know why, just didn't ever want to play them ) and I was never afraid to mix it up with anyone if I had to. I bullied or picked on no one, we teased each other but I also was not afraid of anyone and if I couldn't take them, I learned to be tactful and get out of any situation.......so I was kind of a guys guy, a mans man, and I come from that take on it when I say that.......

When I was young and in school we ate hot dogs, frito pies, pizza, mystery meats, fries and so on for lunch, and we ate those things at home too, though my mom was a big veggie lady and we had quite the variety of things, but we had our hot dogs and spaghettios too. And we salted things. But our diets were certainly no worse or better than kids today.

But to me I think the biggest thing is the lack of activity now. When I was young and in elementary school we got to school early, played football or softball or kick ball, ran around until the first bell, then played AND we in my day still had 1st recess about 10, then lunch recess about noon (and at my school in 5th and 6th grade Mr Dunn had year-round "athletic teams" and we played against each other in softball, football, and soccer inorganized athletics at lunch) AND WE STILL HAD AFTERNOON RECESS about 1:30 / 2:00.

There's no such things as recess now unless they scarf their food down as fast as they can and get outside for the little time at lunch. And I see many kids sitting with their game boys and such even at school. I believe it's more that aspect than their diets. I agree diets aren't great (I read where some of that they believe is also due to more moms in the workplace now and kids feeding themselves more than they used to) but I have issues dictating what people can eat. Our wonderful presidents wife is trying to tell us what we can and can't eat (I mean not telling us, but MAKING us!) while her husband is a smoker - work on him first lady is how I feel! And we had PE as a class!!!! Today they may have it once a week when the districts PE lady comes around. Hows that for healthy.

And when we got out of school, we maybe watched cartoons if it was raining or while we ate a snack, and we were back outside until Mom yelled or Dad whistled and the sun was down - and we were usually once again playing sports usually - all of us, or swimming, or something active. The kids today hide behind video games or now hide in some introverted shell on the computer because they were "bullied" - which often means they tease someone less than them, but sometime the bigger kid got the better of them and they now claim THEY were bullied (I have some REAL issues with society's bully crap they feed the kids today, so sorry if it offends anyone).

My kids in JH have PE 2 days one week and 3 days the next. That's it! And kids today just play games, sit on facebook, text all day, and that is their entertainment. There's hardly any sports they play now. Girls too. They used to at least get their physical actvity IN PE because not so many as boys were into sports. It was getting a little better until the facebook era.

I was just talking to my wife about this the other day while watching a group of boys in a show on TV and then at church and I told her I can see how boys are becoming more feminized - they look like and move less like the men used to. I even notice less hair on their legs and such (even the ones who don't "manscape") But watching them run, and do things, they are much more effeminite. Though they do seem to do more weightlifting then we did now. Stll I think that femininization is a byproduct of not naturally building up their testosterone because exercise and activity does that and they are too busy playing Wii or Nintendo. And maybe the plastics we all drink out of and use now decrease it too (the BPA's maybe?) Gosh. like it or not, our activities were innocent enough, but maybe not politically correct today as we played war and army men, had dirt clod fights, climbed trees, rode our bikes EVERYWHERE, got up on roofs, hiked, you name

it.

And then I discovered girls and all bets were off.

But it was still exercise as I chased them, but couldn't seem to catch them, so I got my exercise that way.

Now they don't even have PE as they are so concerned about kids learning trigonometry or algebra (which trig I have NEVER EVER needed ...EVER!). It's a lack of activity causing most of it and just as much as parents don't watch their kids diets they also are very content to let their kids play video games or sit on the computers all day because they are quiet and out of their hair and do nothing to make the kids active so long as they don;t have to deal with them.

From: Dianne strong <dianstrong@...>Subject: Re: Re: Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, UShyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 5:47 PM

No wonder kids are ending up with high BP. Have you seen the crap foods, targeted to kids, that are advertised on TV? It's all loaded with salt. Parents are the ones who need to wake up and start serving wholesome snacks instead of pre-packaged food.

We have snacks for our grandkids that are seasonal. Currently we have been buying fresh English peas and cherries. They sit in bowls on the table and are irresistible as a snack. There's something about opening the peas, shelling and eating them that's hypnotic and the kids love it. We do too.

We keep no pre-prepared junk foods in our home and the kids are used to it. They have to go elsewhere for Cheese-it's, Goldfish or soda, they know they won't find that stuff here and they're fine with it. If we have cookies around, it's because I made them from scratch, same with almost everything from bread to mayo. That way I know exactly what's in our food.

Parents need to start taking some real responsibility for what food is going into their precious children's bodies.

Sorry for the rant. This just stirred me up.

Dianne

69, bi-lateral adenomas 1.2cm rt, 1cm left

25yr hx of HBP and low K.

Previously on 5 BP meds & 80MEQ K with ever increasing BP

Diagnosed myself via Internet July 2010

Had to demand tests to confirm PA, from scoffing NP

CKD. Kidney function fell after use of contrast dye during CT scan 8/2010.

Now on 50mg Spiro, 12.5mg Atenolol

BP avg. 130/70

Dashing with very low Na (aim for 1,000mg) and high enough K to keep me in range, but not so high as to further damage kidneys.

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I swear I just read something that talked about that very subject of more Moms working so kids eating what they want now. I will look for it - it might have been in Psychology Today as I read that the other day while my class was taking a final.

We watched alot more TV than my kids do today. And I still can sing many of our commercials (I am only 45 yo though) but the kids today spend more time on the computer or with video games, or even wacthing DVD's. When we were young we didn't even have a VCR - because their weren't none. I don't think advertsing media affects them as much now.

Remember all the Captain crunch commercials, or "TRIX are for kids!" or the "Don't take my Lucky Charms!" or the Count Chocula, enberry or Boo berry commercials - we even argued with each other about what we liked best! And we couldn't wait for Saturday morning cartoons because that was THE day. And "Snap, Crackle, and Pop!" and Rice Crispies? And we may have ate Wheaties or Cherrios or KIX too, but a pound of sugar was going on top of it.

Anyone have a favorite? AND

Anyone else getting hungry?

So I think kids today are less influenced by commercials than we were. I say the lack of activity is number one and we're just encouraging that inadvertantly sometimes by letting play so much video games or get on the computer because they can be so quiet at those times.

-- On Wed, 6/27/12, Study Circle <studycircle@...> wrote:

From: Study Circle <studycircle@...>Subject: RE: Re: Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, UShyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 5:56 PM

Alas of the bygone days when moms stayed at home and cooked delicious foods for all kids walking back and forth to/from schools J

No wonder kids are ending up with high BP. Have you seen the crap foods, targeted to kids, that are advertised on TV? It's all loaded with salt. Parents are the ones who need to wake up and start serving wholesome snacks instead of pre-packaged food.

[….]

Dianne

[...]

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[Guest guest]

This is Obama mission to try

and stop the obesity in kids by encouraging them to eat more

fruits and vegetables.

But half of the people felt offended . In fact I heard ppl say she

should stay out of their kids lunches and that the government

would try and make them eat broccoli.

Parents didn't want to hear it or maybe they didn't want to hear

it from her.......

Phyllis

On 6/27/2012 7:46 PM, Bingham wrote:

 

I swear I just read something that talked about

that very subject of more Moms working so kids

eating what they want now. I will look for it -

it might have been in Psychology Today as

I read that the other day while my class was

taking a final.

 

We watched alot more TV than my kids do

today. And I still can sing many of our

commercials (I am only 45 yo though) but the

kids today spend more time on the computer or

with video games, or even wacthing DVD's. When

we were young we didn't even have a VCR -

because their weren't none. I don't think

advertsing media affects them as much now.

 

Remember all the Captain crunch commercials,

or "TRIX are for kids!" or the "Don't take my

Lucky Charms!" or the Count Chocula,

enberry or Boo berry commercials - we even

argued with each other about what we liked best!

And we couldn't wait for Saturday morning

cartoons because that was THE day. And "Snap,

Crackle, and Pop!" and Rice Crispies? And we may

have ate Wheaties or Cherrios or KIX too, but a

pound of sugar was going on top of it.

 

Anyone have a favorite?  AND

Anyone else getting hungry?

 

So I think kids today are less influenced by

commercials than we were. I say the lack of

activity is number one and we're just

encouraging that inadvertantly sometimes by

letting play so much video games or get on the

computer because they can be so quiet at those

times. 

 

-- On Wed, 6/27/12, Study Circle <studycircle@...>

wrote:

From: Study Circle <studycircle@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Kids In

Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten

Years, US

hyperaldosteronism

Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 5:56 PM

 

Alas of the bygone days

when moms stayed at home and

cooked delicious foods for all

kids walking back and forth

to/from schools J

 

 

No wonder kids are ending up

with high BP. Have you seen the

crap foods, targeted to kids,

that are advertised on TV? It's

all loaded with salt. Parents are the ones

who need to wake up and

start serving wholesome

snacks instead of

pre-packaged food.

 

[….]

 

Dianne

[...]

_,___

[Guest guest]

At the other end of the spectrum I acually ate better as a paramedic (contrary to perception I guess) and when I worked the ER as a PA because I usually got free meals at the hospitals and I tended toward the salad bar or good sandwiches because of not wanting to wait for something to cook, plus those are kind of expensive, but when I got it free I went for what I may not buy due to cost. Some had some awesome food! I miss those days.

I did put mac and cheese on the station stove once, back when I was still in my teens about 19 and still naive, and of course, left on an emergency. Only time I ever did that in all my career. Made it all the way to the scene and to the hospital when I remembered it was on high and cooking. We had to go from Downey up to Bell Gardens at rush hour and when I got there the alarm was going off and smoke filled the station, but it was just frying- with a capital F - my noodles. Close. We never drove so fast BACK to the station in our lives........Supervisor came by later and saw the blackened pan outside and I fibbed a little and never fessed up. Stunk in the station for weeks.

From: <jclark24p@...>Subject: Re: Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, UShyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 7:36 PM

As long as we are on a rant, chaperone a school trip sometime! I drove a tour bus for 7 years and talk about fast food! McD, BK and if in Orlando it's the Golden Corral for breakfast every day! Want to bet if they ate healthy at Disney! (It certainly a good lesson on how to kill yourself when you are in a hurry and having fun, IMHO!) > > > > > > >> > > > Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, US> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >>

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Where'd you grow up again? Small town? I think that is awesome. Something to be said for the small town. I loved living in Texas in the small town - it's momma who didn't like it, but we also lost a baby there so it didn't have good memories for her either.

I have great memories of those younger days, but it's true, I was in surburbia surrounded by nothing but concrete and strawberry fields here and there (I went to elementary school in Buena Park California) I still keep in touch with some elementary school friends

!...... and we would have passed out had someone made us do some chores before school or after dark. We had no money growing up and I wore someone elses hand-me-downs all my life, but I was pretty spoiled with love. .

Though my T is low, I seem to get better definition weight lifting now since I was on - and off - the spiro. When I was young I could of lifted all day every day and I wasn't gettin any muscle.

From: <jclark24p@...>Subject: Re: Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, UShyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 8:19 PM

Golly,you had it easy! All I did was work on the neighbor's farm from the time Iwas 12! 3hours a night 6 days a week for $3/week! Goveronment probably wouldn't even allow that today. Oh, we had recess. I was in a one room school house, 2 grades. I remember in 5 & 6th we had a little old grandmother (she actually retired when we moved on to middle school). She used to go out at recess time and would chase you if she caught you goofing off (all in fun). She often played kickball, volleyball or whatever! Oh, BTW, I don't think she weighed much over 100 lbs and lived into her 90's!

In H.S. I was 5'7" and weighed around 115 (119 when I went into the A.F.) One of my biggest moments was in P.E. when I had the fastest time for the rope climb. (2 inch rope from gym floor to roof support and back, maybe 30 feet up.) Coach couldn't believe that I beat all his athletes so I had to repeat for him! (Hand over hand up and free fall down, nothing to it if you've been tossing around bags of grain and bales of hay that weigh more than you for 5 years!

(Now my weight training is lifting 300 lbs every time I head to the fridge or coffee pot!)

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I've got no problem with kids having fast food once in a while, but the trouble is it's no longer once in a while, it's a way of life. Years ago, when I'd volunteer in the K - 5 school my son went to, I was absolutely shocked at what many kids brought in their lunches from home. A P & J sandwich, a bag of potato chips, a can of soda and maybe a candy bar to go with it. After a steady diet of that how is a child supposed to learn or play sports?Yes, all the PE programs have been cut due to budget restraints. This makes it even more imperative that parents step up and monitor both the amount of exercise their kids are getting and the diet behind it.I think the First Lady is just trying to wake parents up to the dangers of bad diet and lack of exercise. It astounds me that she has

received so much negative feedback on this. I don't see her "dictating", but rather getting out information so that parents can make informed choices. If she were warning about the dangers of something like Measles, I don't think she would have received the amount of flack she's gotten, but now she's being accused of forcing a healthier diet. Change has to start somewhere and I think she's doing a good thing.Dianne

From: <jclark24p@...>Subject: Re: Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, UShyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 7:36 PM

As long as we are on a rant, chaperone a school trip sometime! I drove a tour bus for 7 years and talk about fast food! McD, BK and if in Orlando it's the Golden Corral for breakfast every day! Want to bet if they ate healthy at Disney! (It certainly a good lesson on how to kill yourself when you are in a hurry and having fun, IMHO!) > > > > > > >> > > > Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, US> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >>

[Guest guest]

Strong encouragement is just fine, we need it, but trying to regulate what we can buy and eat is what I am not for. I wish though, like you alluded to, we'd get to the bottom of the additions they are putting in foods that are harming us and address those things and regulate those things better. Here we all are on this aldosterone list and many of us were VERY healthy and active, and yet somehow we got something like PA, and who knows if we find a common link one day from a chemical or something similar.

Occasionally, and because it changed my life, and my family's so dramatically and I am still trying to get back professionally and what not, it just gets a little overwhelming about all the misdiagnosis etc, and I feel the anger and sadness from the journey, after all what more could some of us have done to get to the bottom of it? But I am going to be pretty mad and ready to fight if we find out that something we all had in common - something in our food or products that was no fault of ours - caused the adrenal issues.

Let's hope not, because that would mean others will be right behind us.

From: Study Circle <studycircle@...>Subject: RE: Re: Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, UShyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 5:56 PM

Alas of the bygone days when moms stayed at home and cooked delicious foods for all kids walking back and forth to/from schools J

No wonder kids are ending up with high BP. Have you seen the crap foods, targeted to kids, that are advertised on TV? It's all loaded with salt. Parents are the ones who need to wake up and start serving wholesome snacks instead of pre-packaged food.

[….]

Dianne

[...]

_,___

[Guest guest]

We need to teach the basic science of nutrition and disease beginning in K is my opinion. At least if the kids are equipped with the knowledge they may be better at feeding their own kids later. Most adults and children have no knowledge of the science of nutrition and health. Until that happens behavior will not change. Knowledge does not guarantee change or healthy behaviors of course.But until the facts are changed in the brain behavior is not likely to change at all. Just saying. CE Grim MDOn Jun 27, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Phyllis wrote: This is Obama mission to try and stop the obesity in kids by encouraging them to eat more fruits and vegetables. But half of the people felt offended . In fact I heard ppl say she should stay out of their kids lunches and that the government would try and make them eat broccoli. Parents didn't want to hear it or maybe they didn't want to hear it from her....... Phyllis On 6/27/2012 7:46 PM, Bingham wrote: I swear I just read something that talked about that very subject of more Moms working so kids eating what they want now. I will look for it - it might have been in Psychology Today as I read that the other day while my class was taking a final. We watched alot more TV than my kids do today. And I still can sing many of our commercials (I am only 45 yo though) but the kids today spend more time on the computer or with video games, or even wacthing DVD's. When we were young we didn't even have a VCR - because their weren't none. I don't think advertsing media affects them as much now. Remember all the Captain crunch commercials, or "TRIX are for kids!" or the "Don't take my Lucky Charms!" or the Count Chocula, enberry or Boo berry commercials - we even argued with each other about what we liked best! And we couldn't wait for Saturday morning cartoons because that was THE day. And "Snap, Crackle, and Pop!" and Rice Crispies? And we may have ate Wheaties or Cherrios or KIX too, but a pound of sugar was going on top of it. Anyone have a favorite? AND Anyone else getting hungry? So I think kids today are less influenced by commercials than we were. I say the lack of activity is number one and we're just encouraging that inadvertantly sometimes by letting play so much video games or get on the computer because they can be so quiet at those times. -- On Wed, 6/27/12, Study Circle <studycircle@...> wrote: From: Study Circle <studycircle@...> Subject: RE: Re: Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, US hyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 5:56 PM Alas of the bygone days when moms stayed at home and cooked delicious foods for all kids walking back and forth to/from schools J No wonder kids are ending up with high BP. Have you seen the crap foods, targeted to kids, that are advertised on TV? It's all loaded with salt. Parents are the ones who need to wake up and start serving wholesome snacks instead of pre-packaged food. [….] Dianne [...] _,___

[Guest guest]

I completely agree with the American diet being horrible for kids these days. But I would also agree strongly with a comment made before about lack of exercise. As a parent of 3 children I will say parents are getting more and more paranoid, and there is the term "helicopter" parenting where you constantly "hover." For example, parents are so paranoid of their kids getting kidnapped or injured they will not let them play outside in their own yard unsupervised. What parent has the time to spend hours outside with their kids? So kids these days sit inside on their iPods, handheld game devices, computer, tv, etc etc. The REAL threat is not kidnapping, it's obesity! There are only a few hundred kids kidnapped a year (mostly by family members by the way), and what do you think the statistic is on childhood obesity? This mom for one kicks her kids outside and makes them play just like when she was a kid. But at least we have a fence!!Sorry to be so radical. I'm just slightly disgusted with my generations' parenting skills on many levels. Virginia Wall31 year old femaleCurrent K 3.2DASHingAVS completed June 27, 2012 at BJC Hospital St. Louis, MO3 cm adenoma in right adrenalDiagnosed February 2012Low K & High BP since appx. 2007Possible family history of hyperaldosteronismMeds: K Cl 20 meq 2 tabs tidPrenatal vitaminBreastfeeding; 5 month old with G6PDDOn Jun 27, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> wrote:

We need to teach the basic science of nutrition and disease beginning in K is my opinion. At least if the kids are equipped with the knowledge they may be better at feeding their own kids later. Most adults and children have no knowledge of the science of nutrition and health. Until that happens behavior will not change. Knowledge does not guarantee change or healthy behaviors of course.But until the facts are changed in the brain behavior is not likely to change at all. Just saying. CE Grim MDOn Jun 27, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Phyllis wrote: This is Obama mission to try and stop the obesity in kids by encouraging them to eat more fruits and vegetables. But half of the people felt offended . In fact I heard ppl say she should stay out of their kids lunches and that the government would try and make them eat broccoli. Parents didn't want to hear it or maybe they didn't want to hear it from her....... Phyllis On 6/27/2012 7:46 PM, Bingham wrote: I swear I just read something that talked about that very subject of more Moms working so kids eating what they want now. I will look for it - it might have been in Psychology Today as I read that the other day while my class was taking a final. We watched alot more TV than my kids do today. And I still can sing many of our commercials (I am only 45 yo though) but the kids today spend more time on the computer or with video games, or even wacthing DVD's. When we were young we didn't even have a VCR - because their weren't none. I don't think advertsing media affects them as much now. Remember all the Captain crunch commercials, or "TRIX are for kids!" or the "Don't take my Lucky Charms!" or the Count Chocula, enberry or Boo berry commercials - we even argued with each other about what we liked best! And we couldn't wait for Saturday morning cartoons because that was THE day. And "Snap, Crackle, and Pop!" and Rice Crispies? And we may have ate Wheaties or Cherrios or KIX too, but a pound of sugar was going on top of it. Anyone have a favorite? AND Anyone else getting hungry? So I think kids today are less influenced by commercials than we were. I say the lack of activity is number one and we're just encouraging that inadvertantly sometimes by letting play so much video games or get on the computer because they can be so quiet at those times. -- On Wed, 6/27/12, Study Circle <studycircle@...> wrote: From: Study Circle <studycircle@...> Subject: RE: Re: Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, US hyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 5:56 PM Alas of the bygone days when moms stayed at home and cooked delicious foods for all kids walking back and forth to/from schools J No wonder kids are ending up with high BP. Have you seen the crap foods, targeted to kids, that are advertised on TV? It's all loaded with salt. Parents are the ones who need to wake up and start serving wholesome snacks instead of pre-packaged food. [….] Dianne [...] _,___

[Guest guest]

Of course the leading poison is NaCl May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jun 27, 2012, at 18:44, Bingham <jlkbbk2003@...> wrote:

Strong encouragement is just fine, we need it, but trying to regulate what we can buy and eat is what I am not for. I wish though, like you alluded to, we'd get to the bottom of the additions they are putting in foods that are harming us and address those things and regulate those things better. Here we all are on this aldosterone list and many of us were VERY healthy and active, and yet somehow we got something like PA, and who knows if we find a common link one day from a chemical or something similar.

Occasionally, and because it changed my life, and my family's so dramatically and I am still trying to get back professionally and what not, it just gets a little overwhelming about all the misdiagnosis etc, and I feel the anger and sadness from the journey, after all what more could some of us have done to get to the bottom of it? But I am going to be pretty mad and ready to fight if we find out that something we all had in common - something in our food or products that was no fault of ours - caused the adrenal issues.

Let's hope not, because that would mean others will be right behind us.

From: Study Circle <studycircle@...>Subject: RE: Re: Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, UShyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 5:56 PM

Alas of the bygone days when moms stayed at home and cooked delicious foods for all kids walking back and forth to/from schools J

No wonder kids are ending up with high BP. Have you seen the crap foods, targeted to kids, that are advertised on TV? It's all loaded with salt. Parents are the ones who need to wake up and start serving wholesome snacks instead of pre-packaged food.

[….]

Dianne

[...]

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[Guest guest]

Again parenting should also be a subject in school. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jun 27, 2012, at 20:21, Virginia Wall <virgwall@...> wrote:

I completely agree with the American diet being horrible for kids these days. But I would also agree strongly with a comment made before about lack of exercise. As a parent of 3 children I will say parents are getting more and more paranoid, and there is the term "helicopter" parenting where you constantly "hover." For example, parents are so paranoid of their kids getting kidnapped or injured they will not let them play outside in their own yard unsupervised. What parent has the time to spend hours outside with their kids? So kids these days sit inside on their iPods, handheld game devices, computer, tv, etc etc. The REAL threat is not kidnapping, it's obesity! There are only a few hundred kids kidnapped a year (mostly by family members by the way), and what do you think the statistic is on childhood obesity? This mom for one kicks her kids outside and makes them play just like when she was a kid. But at least we have a fence!!Sorry to be so radical. I'm just slightly disgusted with my generations' parenting skills on many levels. Virginia Wall31 year old femaleCurrent K 3.2DASHingAVS completed June 27, 2012 at BJC Hospital St. Louis, MO3 cm adenoma in right adrenalDiagnosed February 2012Low K & High BP since appx. 2007Possible family history of hyperaldosteronismMeds: K Cl 20 meq 2 tabs tidPrenatal vitaminBreastfeeding; 5 month old with G6PDDOn Jun 27, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> wrote:

We need to teach the basic science of nutrition and disease beginning in K is my opinion. At least if the kids are equipped with the knowledge they may be better at feeding their own kids later. Most adults and children have no knowledge of the science of nutrition and health. Until that happens behavior will not change. Knowledge does not guarantee change or healthy behaviors of course.But until the facts are changed in the brain behavior is not likely to change at all. Just saying. CE Grim MDOn Jun 27, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Phyllis wrote: This is Obama mission to try and stop the obesity in kids by encouraging them to eat more fruits and vegetables. But half of the people felt offended . In fact I heard ppl say she should stay out of their kids lunches and that the government would try and make them eat broccoli. Parents didn't want to hear it or maybe they didn't want to hear it from her....... Phyllis On 6/27/2012 7:46 PM, Bingham wrote: I swear I just read something that talked about that very subject of more Moms working so kids eating what they want now. I will look for it - it might have been in Psychology Today as I read that the other day while my class was taking a final. We watched alot more TV than my kids do today. And I still can sing many of our commercials (I am only 45 yo though) but the kids today spend more time on the computer or with video games, or even wacthing DVD's. When we were young we didn't even have a VCR - because their weren't none. I don't think advertsing media affects them as much now. Remember all the Captain crunch commercials, or "TRIX are for kids!" or the "Don't take my Lucky Charms!" or the Count Chocula, enberry or Boo berry commercials - we even argued with each other about what we liked best! And we couldn't wait for Saturday morning cartoons because that was THE day. And "Snap, Crackle, and Pop!" and Rice Crispies? And we may have ate Wheaties or Cherrios or KIX too, but a pound of sugar was going on top of it. Anyone have a favorite? AND Anyone else getting hungry? So I think kids today are less influenced by commercials than we were. I say the lack of activity is number one and we're just encouraging that inadvertantly sometimes by letting play so much video games or get on the computer because they can be so quiet at those times. -- On Wed, 6/27/12, Study Circle <studycircle@...> wrote: From: Study Circle <studycircle@...> Subject: RE: Re: Kids In Hospital With High Blood Pressure Double In Ten Years, US hyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 5:56 PM Alas of the bygone days when moms stayed at home and cooked delicious foods for all kids walking back and forth to/from schools J No wonder kids are ending up with high BP. Have you seen the crap foods, targeted to kids, that are advertised on TV? It's all loaded with salt. Parents are the ones who need to wake up and start serving wholesome snacks instead of pre-packaged food. [….] Dianne [...] _,___

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