Re: Candesartan (Angiotensin-II receptor antagonist)

[Guest guest]

I don't have experience with Candesartan, but I do have experience with another

" sartan " - Diovan - which actually *raised* by BP before I had my tumor removed.

>

> Hi

>

> I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire and 10mg amiloride (is a

potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor has added Candesartan (Angiotensin-II

receptor antagonist).

>

> Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help reduce bp for those of us with

Conns? And it is not just a hit or miss strategy from the doctor.

>

> Also, anybody have any experience with Candesartan and side effects?

>

> Thanks

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that information.

does anyone else have anything to say on this.

Chris

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire and 10mg amiloride (is a

potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor has added Candesartan (Angiotensin-II

receptor antagonist).

> >

> > Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help reduce bp for those of us

with Conns? And it is not just a hit or miss strategy from the doctor.

> >

> > Also, anybody have any experience with Candesartan and side effects?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Chris

> >

>

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Should not work in PA. May with a diuretic and spiro. My preference would be to get you to DASH.CE Grim MDOn Jun 15, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Chris_S wrote: Thanks for that information. does anyone else have anything to say on this. > > > > Hi > > > > I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire and 10mg amiloride (is a potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor has added Candesartan (Angiotensin-II receptor antagonist). > > > > Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help reduce bp for those of us with Conns? And it is not just a hit or miss strategy from the doctor. > > > > Also, anybody have any experience with Candesartan and side effects? > > > > Thanks > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I take Benicar for sarcoid, I have never been officially diagnosed

with PA, but I was on 7 bp meds with a BP of 180/110.

I am now on Inspra 12.5mg daily and dashing with good bp control.

45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP 180/100, previously 7 BP meds, now dashing

and Inspra 12.5 daily and Benicar 20mg twice a day(for sarcoid)

hx, htn, cardiomyopathy, LVH,sarcoidosis, CHF-previous 22% now 50%.

htn specialist. Dr Elijah Saunders

Phyllis

On 6/15/2012 11:58 AM, Chris_S wrote:

Thanks for that information.

does anyone else have anything to say on this.

Chris

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire

and 10mg amiloride (is a potassium-sparing diuretic) and

the doctor has added Candesartan (Angiotensin-II receptor

antagonist).

> >

> > Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help

reduce bp for those of us with Conns? And it is not just a

hit or miss strategy from the doctor.

> >

> > Also, anybody have any experience with

Candesartan and side effects?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Chris

> >

>

[Guest guest]

good thumbnail. And the information that benicar helps saroid is?CE Grim MDOn Jun 15, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Phyllis wrote: I take Benicar for sarcoid, I have never been officially diagnosed with PA, but I was on 7 bp meds with a BP of 180/110. I am now on Inspra 12.5mg daily and dashing with good bp control. 45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP 180/100, previously 7 BP meds, now dashing and Inspra 12.5 daily and Benicar 20mg twice a day(for sarcoid) hx, htn, cardiomyopathy, LVH,sarcoidosis, CHF-previous 22% now 50%. htn specialist. Dr Elijah Saunders Phyllis On 6/15/2012 11:58 AM, Chris_S wrote: Thanks for that information. does anyone else have anything to say on this. > > > > Hi > > > > I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire and 10mg amiloride (is a potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor has added Candesartan (Angiotensin-II receptor antagonist). > > > > Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help reduce bp for those of us with Conns? And it is not just a hit or miss strategy from the doctor. > > > > Also, anybody have any experience with Candesartan and side effects? > > > > Thanks > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Benicar has a side effect of decreasing vitamin d levels. I am very

prone to hypercalcemia. If I go out in the sun for just a few

minutes it effects me.

So benicar helps keep my vitamin d low. Without Benicar my Calcium

will be 14-15 and my phosphorus will be 4.

45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP 180/100, previously 7 BP meds, now dashing

and Inspra 12.5 daily and Benicar 20mg twice a day(for sarcoid)

hx, htn, cardiomyopathy, LVH,sarcoidosis, CHF-previous 22% now 50%.

htn specialist. Dr Elijah Saunders

Phyllis

On 6/15/2012 2:58 PM, Clarence Grim wrote:

good thumbnail.

And the information that benicar helps saroid is?

CE Grim MD

On Jun 15, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Phyllis wrote:

I take Benicar for sarcoid, I have never

been officially diagnosed with PA, but I was

on 7 bp meds with a BP of 180/110.

I am now on Inspra 12.5mg daily and dashing

with good bp control.

45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP 180/100, previously 7

BP meds, now dashing and Inspra 12.5 daily and

Benicar 20mg twice a day(for sarcoid)

hx, htn, cardiomyopathy, LVH,sarcoidosis,

CHF-previous 22% now 50%. htn specialist. Dr

Elijah Saunders

Phyllis

On 6/15/2012 11:58 AM, Chris_S wrote:

Thanks for that information.

does anyone else have anything to say on

this.

Chris

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > I have bilateral tumours I am on

25mg of spire and 10mg amiloride (is a

potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor

has added Candesartan (Angiotensin-II

receptor antagonist).

> >

> > Does anyone know if adding

Candesartan can help reduce bp for those

of us with Conns? And it is not just a hit

or miss strategy from the doctor.

> >

> > Also, anybody have any

experience with Candesartan and side

effects?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Chris

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I kind of thought that Dr. Grimm and have not started taking it yet as I was

sure I read somewhere in this forum that it would not help. thanks again

Chris

> > > >

> > > > Hi

> > > >

> > > > I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire and 10mg

> > amiloride (is a potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor has added

> > Candesartan (Angiotensin-II receptor antagonist).

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help reduce bp for

> > those of us with Conns? And it is not just a hit or miss strategy

> > from the doctor.

> > > >

> > > > Also, anybody have any experience with Candesartan and side

> > effects?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Chris

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Never heard of this effect of Benicar. Strange it seems to me. What is your Drs proposed mechanism.CE Grim MDOn Jun 15, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Phyllis wrote: Benicar has a side effect of decreasing vitamin d levels. I am very prone to hypercalcemia. If I go out in the sun for just a few minutes it effects me. So benicar helps keep my vitamin d low. Without Benicar my Calcium will be 14-15 and my phosphorus will be 4. 45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP 180/100, previously 7 BP meds, now dashing and Inspra 12.5 daily and Benicar 20mg twice a day(for sarcoid) hx, htn, cardiomyopathy, LVH,sarcoidosis, CHF-previous 22% now 50%. htn specialist. Dr Elijah Saunders Phyllis On 6/15/2012 2:58 PM, Clarence Grim wrote: good thumbnail. And the information that benicar helps saroid is? CE Grim MD On Jun 15, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Phyllis wrote: I take Benicar for sarcoid, I have never been officially diagnosed with PA, but I was on 7 bp meds with a BP of 180/110. I am now on Inspra 12.5mg daily and dashing with good bp control. 45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP 180/100, previously 7 BP meds, now dashing and Inspra 12.5 daily and Benicar 20mg twice a day(for sarcoid) hx, htn, cardiomyopathy, LVH,sarcoidosis, CHF-previous 22% now 50%. htn specialist. Dr Elijah Saunders Phyllis On 6/15/2012 11:58 AM, Chris_S wrote: Thanks for that information. does anyone else have anything to say on this. > > > > Hi > > > > I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire and 10mg amiloride (is a potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor has added Candesartan (Angiotensin-II receptor antagonist). > > > > Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help reduce bp for those of us with Conns? And it is not just a hit or miss strategy from the doctor. > > > > Also, anybody have any experience with Candesartan and side effects? > > > > Thanks > > > > >

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I dont know what the mechanism is , but it works well keeping my

vitamin d and calcium down. All I know is that when I don't take it

I get extreme pain in my joints and bones which means my calcium is

up. My primary care doctor put me on it.

Phyllis

On 6/15/2012 9:26 PM, Clarence Grim wrote:

Never heard of this effect of Benicar. Strange it seems

to me. What is your Drs proposed mechanism.

CE Grim MD

On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Phyllis wrote:

Benicar has a side effect of decreasing

vitamin d levels. I am very prone to

hypercalcemia. If I go out in the sun for just a

few minutes it effects me.

So benicar helps keep my vitamin d low.

Without Benicar my Calcium will be 14-15 and my

phosphorus will be 4.

45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP 180/100, previously 7

BP meds, now dashing and Inspra 12.5 daily and

Benicar 20mg twice a day(for sarcoid)

hx, htn, cardiomyopathy, LVH,sarcoidosis,

CHF-previous 22% now 50%. htn specialist. Dr

Elijah Saunders

Phyllis

On 6/15/2012 2:58 PM, Clarence Grim wrote:

good thumbnail.

And the information that benicar helps

saroid is?

CE Grim MD

On Jun 15, 2012, at 1:43 PM,

Phyllis wrote:

I take Benicar for sarcoid, I

have never been officially

diagnosed with PA, but I was on

7 bp meds with a BP of 180/110.

I am now on Inspra 12.5mg daily

and dashing with good bp

control.

45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP

180/100, previously 7 BP meds,

now dashing and Inspra 12.5

daily and Benicar 20mg twice a

day(for sarcoid)

hx, htn, cardiomyopathy,

LVH,sarcoidosis, CHF-previous

22% now 50%. htn specialist. Dr

Elijah Saunders

Phyllis

On 6/15/2012 11:58 AM, Chris_S

wrote:

Thanks for that

information.

does anyone else have

anything to say on this.

Chris

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > I have bilateral

tumours I am on 25mg of

spire and 10mg amiloride (is

a potassium-sparing

diuretic) and the doctor has

added Candesartan

(Angiotensin-II receptor

antagonist).

> >

> > Does anyone know

if adding Candesartan can

help reduce bp for those of

us with Conns? And it is not

just a hit or miss strategy

from the doctor.

> >

> > Also, anybody have

any experience with

Candesartan and side

effects?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Chris

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Curious.CE Grim MDOn Jun 15, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Phyllis wrote: I dont know what the mechanism is , but it works well keeping my vitamin d and calcium down. All I know is that when I don't take it I get extreme pain in my joints and bones which means my calcium is up. My primary care doctor put me on it. Phyllis On 6/15/2012 9:26 PM, Clarence Grim wrote: Never heard of this effect of Benicar. Strange it seems to me. What is your Drs proposed mechanism. CE Grim MD On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Phyllis wrote: Benicar has a side effect of decreasing vitamin d levels. I am very prone to hypercalcemia. If I go out in the sun for just a few minutes it effects me. So benicar helps keep my vitamin d low. Without Benicar my Calcium will be 14-15 and my phosphorus will be 4. 45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP 180/100, previously 7 BP meds, now dashing and Inspra 12.5 daily and Benicar 20mg twice a day(for sarcoid) hx, htn, cardiomyopathy, LVH,sarcoidosis, CHF-previous 22% now 50%. htn specialist. Dr Elijah Saunders Phyllis On 6/15/2012 2:58 PM, Clarence Grim wrote: good thumbnail. And the information that benicar helps saroid is? CE Grim MD On Jun 15, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Phyllis wrote: I take Benicar for sarcoid, I have never been officially diagnosed with PA, but I was on 7 bp meds with a BP of 180/110. I am now on Inspra 12.5mg daily and dashing with good bp control. 45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP 180/100, previously 7 BP meds, now dashing and Inspra 12.5 daily and Benicar 20mg twice a day(for sarcoid) hx, htn, cardiomyopathy, LVH,sarcoidosis, CHF-previous 22% now 50%. htn specialist. Dr Elijah Saunders Phyllis On 6/15/2012 11:58 AM, Chris_S wrote: Thanks for that information. does anyone else have anything to say on this. > > > > Hi > > > > I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire and 10mg amiloride (is a potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor has added Candesartan (Angiotensin-II receptor antagonist). > > > > Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help reduce bp for those of us with Conns? And it is not just a hit or miss strategy from the doctor. > > > > Also, anybody have any experience with Candesartan and side effects? > > > > Thanks > > > > >

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One again check with your team as they know you best.CE Grim MDOn Jun 15, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Chris_S wrote: I kind of thought that Dr. Grimm and have not started taking it yet as I was sure I read somewhere in this forum that it would not help. thanks again > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire and 10mg > > amiloride (is a potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor has added > > Candesartan (Angiotensin-II receptor antagonist). > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help reduce bp for > > those of us with Conns? And it is not just a hit or miss strategy > > from the doctor. > > > > > > > > Also, anybody have any experience with Candesartan and side > > effects? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. Grimm can Candesartan increase kidney function?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire and 10mg

> > > > amiloride (is a potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor has

> > added

> > > > Candesartan (Angiotensin-II receptor antagonist).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help reduce bp for

> > > > those of us with Conns? And it is not just a hit or miss strategy

> > > > from the doctor.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, anybody have any experience with Candesartan and side

> > > > effects?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Chris

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It can stop it from getting worse, make it better or make it worse.If PA wil prob have no effect.On Jun 16, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Chris_S wrote: Hi Dr. Grimm can Candesartan increase kidney function? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > I have bilateral tumours I am on 25mg of spire and 10mg > > > > amiloride (is a potassium-sparing diuretic) and the doctor has > > added > > > > Candesartan (Angiotensin-II receptor antagonist). > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if adding Candesartan can help reduce bp for > > > > those of us with Conns? And it is not just a hit or miss strategy > > > > from the doctor. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, anybody have any experience with Candesartan and side > > > > effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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There is a Lyme disease treatment that suppresses Vitamin D, uses Benicar and has the person stay out of all light. Even all windows are supposed to be darkened. Of course, there is no research behind that sort of thing and I've never heard of it working for anyone. It is called the Marshall Protocol. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim Never heard of this effect of Benicar. Strange it seems to me. What is your Drs proposed mechanism. On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Phyllis wrote: Benicar has a side effect of decreasing vitamin d levels. I am very prone to hypercalcemia. If I go out in the sun for just a few minutes it effects me.So benicar helps keep my vitamin d low. Without Benicar my Calcium will be 14-15 and my phosphorus will be 4..

[Guest guest]

It has worked for me. I dont know what the protocol is called, my

PCP put me on it.

Phyllis

On 6/23/2012 8:23 PM, Valarie wrote:

There is a

Lyme disease treatment that suppresses Vitamin D, uses

Benicar and has the person stay out of all light.

Even all windows are supposed to be darkened. Of

course, there is no research behind that sort of thing

and I've never heard of it working for anyone. It is

called the Marshall Protocol.

Val

From:

hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On

Behalf Of Clarence Grim

Never heard of this effect of Benicar.

Strange it seems to me. What is your Drs proposed

mechanism.

On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:14

PM, Phyllis wrote:

Benicar has a

side effect of decreasing vitamin d

levels. I am very prone to hypercalcemia.

If I go out in the sun for just a few

minutes it effects me.

So benicar helps keep my vitamin d low.

Without Benicar my Calcium will be 14-15

and my phosphorus will be 4.

..

[Guest guest]

I've never heard of anyone for whom the Marshall Protocol cured Lyme disease. There is no research to support it. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of PhyllisIt has worked for me. I dont know what the protocol is called, my PCP put me on it.On 6/23/2012 8:23 PM, Valarie wrote: There is a Lyme disease treatment that suppresses Vitamin D, uses Benicar and has the person stay out of all light. Even all windows are supposed to be darkened. Of course, there is no research behind that sort of thing and I've never heard of it working for anyone. It is called the Marshall Protocol.From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence GrimNever heard of this effect of Benicar. Strange it seems to me. What is your Drs proposed mechanism.On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Phyllis wrote: Benicar has a side effect of decreasing vitamin d levels. I am very prone to hypercalcemia. If I go out in the sun for just a few minutes it effects me.So benicar helps keep my vitamin d low. Without Benicar my Calcium will be 14-15 and my phosphorus will be 4..

[Guest guest]

Again, I don't have Lyme disease, and as long as it is helping me I

really don't care about research

:-)

I have suffered for so long, I am just glad to get some relief.

Phyllis

On 6/23/2012 9:03 PM, Valarie wrote:

I've never

heard of anyone for whom the Marshall Protocol cured

Lyme disease. There is no research to support it.

Val

From:

hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On

Behalf Of Phyllis

It has worked for me. I dont

know what the protocol is called, my PCP put me

on it.

On 6/23/2012 8:23 PM, Valarie wrote:

There

is a Lyme disease treatment that

suppresses Vitamin D, uses Benicar and has

the person stay out of all light. Even

all windows are supposed to be darkened.

Of course, there is no research behind

that sort of thing and I've never heard of

it working for anyone. It is called the

Marshall Protocol.

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ]

On Behalf Of Clarence Grim

Never heard of this

effect of Benicar. Strange it seems to

me. What is your Drs proposed

mechanism.

On Jun 15,

2012, at 2:14 PM, Phyllis

wrote:

Benicar

has a side effect of

decreasing vitamin d levels.

I am very prone to

hypercalcemia. If I go out in

the sun for just a few minutes

it effects me.

So benicar helps keep my

vitamin d low. Without

Benicar my Calcium will be

14-15 and my phosphorus will

be 4.

..

[Guest guest]

Phyllis, I never said anything about you, what you take and what you think works. I was responding to Dr.Grim's comments and his interest in your doc's proposed mechanism of Benicar. That is why I am careful about stripping too much information. Read down. From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence GrimNever heard of this effect of Benicar. Strange it seems to me. What is your Drs proposed mechanism.Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Phyllis Again, I don't have Lyme disease, and as long as it is helping me I really don't care about research :-) I have suffered for so long, I am just glad to get some relief.On 6/23/2012 9:03 PM, Valarie wrote: I've never heard of anyone for whom the Marshall Protocol cured Lyme disease. There is no research to support it.From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of PhyllisIt has worked for me. I dont know what the protocol is called, my PCP put me on it.On 6/23/2012 8:23 PM, Valarie wrote: There is a Lyme disease treatment that suppresses Vitamin D, uses Benicar and has the person stay out of all light. Even all windows are supposed to be darkened. Of course, there is no research behind that sort of thing and I've never heard of it working for anyone. It is called the Marshall Protocol.From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence GrimNever heard of this effect of Benicar. Strange it seems to me. What is your Drs proposed mechanism. .

[Guest guest]

Phyllis, I never said anything about you, what you take and what you think works. I was responding to Dr.Grim's comments and his interest in your doc's proposed mechanism of Benicar. That is why I am careful about stripping too much information. Read down. From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence GrimNever heard of this effect of Benicar. Strange it seems to me. What is your Drs proposed mechanism.Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Phyllis Again, I don't have Lyme disease, and as long as it is helping me I really don't care about research :-) I have suffered for so long, I am just glad to get some relief.On 6/23/2012 9:03 PM, Valarie wrote: I've never heard of anyone for whom the Marshall Protocol cured Lyme disease. There is no research to support it.From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of PhyllisIt has worked for me. I dont know what the protocol is called, my PCP put me on it.On 6/23/2012 8:23 PM, Valarie wrote: There is a Lyme disease treatment that suppresses Vitamin D, uses Benicar and has the person stay out of all light. Even all windows are supposed to be darkened. Of course, there is no research behind that sort of thing and I've never heard of it working for anyone. It is called the Marshall Protocol.From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence GrimNever heard of this effect of Benicar. Strange it seems to me. What is your Drs proposed mechanism. .