Re: Re: Re introduction and question - Vitamins

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Most vets have low vit d in my experience but we do not one if increasing Vit d makes anyone healthier. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jun 14, 2012, at 15:04, <jclark24p@...> wrote:

Speaking of vitamins, I'm not sure this has anything to do with your issues but NIH found my Vit D to be real low. Apparently it does not come from many foods and you get a lot of it from exposure to sun. They were surprised my bone density was so good and attributed it to excess estrogen from my experience w/spironolactone. Being an "old farm boy", I suggested 3 glasses of good old Jersey milk a day didn't hurt! (I don't know how much milk they drink in Greece since that is where my doctor was from!)

Anyway, he put me on 50,000 units weekly and we need to retest in 8 weeks.

I just looked it up and know a couple of you said you were breast-feeding. If you are not supplementing your infant, you need to see this, "As noted earlier, the AAP recommends that exclusively and partially breastfed infants be supplemented with 400 IU of vitamin D per day [22], the RDA for this nutrient during infancy."

For the whole story go here:

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminD-HealthProfessional/

And now the wife suggested I go out and activate some vitamin D (MOW THE LAWN!)

> > >

> > > I was active on this board about a year ago and then I got pregnant with baby #6 and between two military moves and a year long deployment for my husband I have been on very little. Tried to start reading again, but still have 6000 messages!

> > >

> > > Diagnosed with PA in 2007, BP was regulated with a low salt diet. Average below 120/80. Healthy pregnancy and delivery of a beautiful girl 10 lb. 12 oz - no gestational diabetes, just pure chunk.

> > >

> > > I am now three and a half months post partum. BP has been fairly normal. In the 135/85 range, but I was happy as I know in the postpartum period there is some leveling out. About a month ago I felt odd and my bp was up to 176/100 or something like that. I believe I took a bath with Epsom salts (I have magnesium issues) and BP seemed normal. Has been normal since that time. About three days ago I felt like I was urinating all day long in tiny amounts. I also dropped 5 pounds in two days. I am eating a very low salt diet with virtually no processed foods. I take 20 MEQ of slow release K and drink 16 oz of OJ and 8 oz of low sodium V-8. In addition I eat lots of fruit and veggies and beans so I think my potassium is high enough.

> > >

> > > Tuesday morning my BP was 123/82 and a few hours later standing in the kitchen I felt weird and it was 180/103. I think I took my magnesium and it went down to maybe 150/92. BP has been up and down the last few days. I have been so thirsty and have a really dry mouth like I am dehydrated, but last night I couldn't seem to hold anything in for more than an hour before I would urinate. I couldn't sleep either. BP would be 180/103 and 15 min after water it would be 135/82 only to go back up after I urinated. It was like I couldn't hold on to water.

> > >

> > > Five years ago I had a situation like this when I was eight months post partum (breastfeeding both times, though now, my baby is strictly breastfed and my eight month old had started solids.

> > >

> > > Due to the weight loss I started drinking Gatorade and BP has been around 140/90 - not great, but not ridiculous. Any thoughts as to what is going on. In my pregnancy I had low sodium and felt less mentally strange with the addition of some salt into my diet. The sodium in the Gatorade has not seemed to be a problem and actually seems to help somewhat.

> > >

> > > My dr. appt got cancelled today and I go tomorrow. New dr. None of my PA paperwork is in my military file as we were away from a base when it all started. Just want to be on my toes and take the dr. some good info. Just hoping she listens to me.

> > >

> > > Anybody ever have anything like this happen before?

> > >

> > > Around a year ago I was eating so low sodium that my BP went really low 102/68 and pulse went high and adding some salt seemed to help. Thanks for listening.

> > >

> > > -

> > > 42 yoWF, 6 kids, military wife whose husband is currently deployed for a year. diagnosed PA 2007. AVS found hormone producing tumor on left, couldn't sample right, told me to have adrenelectomy of left and I declined as they could not sample right side

> > >

> >

>

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Vitamin D almost killed me. Doctors are giving this steroid out like

candy and it can be deadly for people with certain diseases.

45ye AAf. 20yr hx of HBP 180/100, previously 7 BP meds, now dashing

and Inspra 12.5 daily and Benicar 20mg twice a day(for sarcoid)

hx, htn, cardiomyopathy, LVH,sarcoidosis, CHF-previous 22% now 50%.

Phyllis

On 6/14/2012 9:37 PM, Clarence Grim wrote:

Most vets have low vit d in my experience but we do not

one if increasing Vit d makes anyone healthier.

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim MS, MD

Specializing in Difficult

Hypertension

On Jun 14, 2012, at 15:04, <jclark24p@...>

wrote:

Speaking of vitamins, I'm not sure this has

anything to do with your issues but NIH found my Vit

D to be real low. Apparently it does not come from

many foods and you get a lot of it from exposure to

sun. They were surprised my bone density was so good

and attributed it to excess estrogen from my

experience w/spironolactone. Being an "old farm

boy", I suggested 3 glasses of good old Jersey milk

a day didn't hurt! (I don't know how much milk they

drink in Greece since that is where my doctor was

from!)

Anyway, he put me on 50,000 units weekly and we need

to retest in 8 weeks.

I just looked it up and know a couple of you said

you were breast-feeding. If you are not

supplementing your infant, you need to see this, "As

noted earlier, the AAP recommends that exclusively

and partially breastfed infants be supplemented with

400 IU of vitamin D per day [22], the RDA for this

nutrient during infancy."

For the whole story go here:

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminD-HealthProfessional/

And now the wife suggested I go out and activate

some vitamin D (MOW THE LAWN!)

> > >

> > > I was active on this board about a

year ago and then I got pregnant with baby #6 and

between two military moves and a year long

deployment for my husband I have been on very

little. Tried to start reading again, but still

have 6000 messages!

> > >

> > > Diagnosed with PA in 2007, BP was

regulated with a low salt diet. Average below

120/80. Healthy pregnancy and delivery of a

beautiful girl 10 lb. 12 oz - no gestational

diabetes, just pure chunk.

> > >

> > > I am now three and a half months post

partum. BP has been fairly normal. In the 135/85

range, but I was happy as I know in the postpartum

period there is some leveling out. About a month

ago I felt odd and my bp was up to 176/100 or

something like that. I believe I took a bath with

Epsom salts (I have magnesium issues) and BP seemed

normal. Has been normal since that time. About

three days ago I felt like I was urinating all day

long in tiny amounts. I also dropped 5 pounds in

two days. I am eating a very low salt diet with

virtually no processed foods. I take 20 MEQ of slow

release K and drink 16 oz of OJ and 8 oz of low

sodium V-8. In addition I eat lots of fruit and

veggies and beans so I think my potassium is high

enough.

> > >

> > > Tuesday morning my BP was 123/82 and

a few hours later standing in the kitchen I felt

weird and it was 180/103. I think I took my

magnesium and it went down to maybe 150/92. BP has

been up and down the last few days. I have been so

thirsty and have a really dry mouth like I am

dehydrated, but last night I couldn't seem to hold

anything in for more than an hour before I would

urinate. I couldn't sleep either. BP would be

180/103 and 15 min after water it would be 135/82

only to go back up after I urinated. It was like I

couldn't hold on to water.

> > >

> > > Five years ago I had a situation like

this when I was eight months post partum

(breastfeeding both times, though now, my baby is

strictly breastfed and my eight month old had

started solids.

> > >

> > > Due to the weight loss I started

drinking Gatorade and BP has been around 140/90 -

not great, but not ridiculous. Any thoughts as to

what is going on. In my pregnancy I had low sodium

and felt less mentally strange with the addition of

some salt into my diet. The sodium in the Gatorade

has not seemed to be a problem and actually seems to

help somewhat.

> > >

> > > My dr. appt got cancelled today and I

go tomorrow. New dr. None of my PA paperwork is in

my military file as we were away from a base when it

all started. Just want to be on my toes and take

the dr. some good info. Just hoping she listens to

me.

> > >

> > > Anybody ever have anything like this

happen before?

> > >

> > > Around a year ago I was eating so low

sodium that my BP went really low 102/68 and pulse

went high and adding some salt seemed to help.

Thanks for listening.

> > >

> > > -

> > > 42 yoWF, 6 kids, military wife whose

husband is currently deployed for a year. diagnosed

PA 2007. AVS found hormone producing tumor on left,

couldn't sample right, told me to have adrenelectomy

of left and I declined as they could not sample

right side

> > >

> >

>

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I am curious, of those reading this, and who have had there vit D actually checked (when not on any vit D) how many had a low level? Anyone have a normal D level? I seem to meet no one, absolutely no one who gets it tested that comes back normal. Mine did not. My wifes did not. Our 15 yo did not, and when I was working fulltime my patients went to the same lab (theres only one up our way other than the hospital) and everyone is low.

But When I took D I feel horrible. My wife,felt okay.

Speaking of vitamins, I'm not sure this has anything to do with your issues but NIH found my Vit D to be real low. Apparently it does not come from many foods and you get a lot of it from exposure to sun. They were surprised my bone density was so good and attributed it to excess estrogen from my experience w/spironolactone. Being an "old farm boy", I suggested 3 glasses of good old Jersey milk a day didn't hurt! (I don't know how much milk they drink in Greece since that is where my doctor was from!)Anyway, he put me on 50,000 units weekly and we need to retest in 8 weeks.I just looked it up and know a couple of you said you were breast-feeding. If you are not supplementing your infant, you need to see this, "As noted earlier, the AAP recommends that exclusively and partially breastfed infants be supplemented with 400 IU of vitamin D per day [22], the RDA for this nutrient during infancy."For the whole story go

here:http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminD-HealthProfessional/And now the wife suggested I go out and activate some vitamin D (MOW THE LAWN!)> > >> > > I was active on this board about a year ago and then I got pregnant with baby #6 and between two military moves and a year long deployment for my husband I have been on very little. Tried to start reading again, but still have 6000

messages!> > > > > > Diagnosed with PA in 2007, BP was regulated with a low salt diet. Average below 120/80. Healthy pregnancy and delivery of a beautiful girl 10 lb. 12 oz - no gestational diabetes, just pure chunk.> > > > > > I am now three and a half months post partum. BP has been fairly normal. In the 135/85 range, but I was happy as I know in the postpartum period there is some leveling out. About a month ago I felt odd and my bp was up to 176/100 or something like that. I believe I took a bath with Epsom salts (I have magnesium issues) and BP seemed normal. Has been normal since that time. About three days ago I felt like I was urinating all day long in tiny amounts. I also dropped 5 pounds in two days. I am eating a very low salt diet with virtually no processed foods. I take 20 MEQ of slow release K and drink 16 oz of OJ

and 8 oz of low sodium V-8. In addition I eat lots of fruit and veggies and beans so I think my potassium is high enough.> > > > > > Tuesday morning my BP was 123/82 and a few hours later standing in the kitchen I felt weird and it was 180/103. I think I took my magnesium and it went down to maybe 150/92. BP has been up and down the last few days. I have been so thirsty and have a really dry mouth like I am dehydrated, but last night I couldn't seem to hold anything in for more than an hour before I would urinate. I couldn't sleep either. BP would be 180/103 and 15 min after water it would be 135/82 only to go back up after I urinated. It was like I couldn't hold on to water. > > > > > > Five years ago I had a situation like this when I was eight months post partum (breastfeeding both times, though now, my baby is strictly breastfed and my eight month old

had started solids.> > > > > > Due to the weight loss I started drinking Gatorade and BP has been around 140/90 - not great, but not ridiculous. Any thoughts as to what is going on. In my pregnancy I had low sodium and felt less mentally strange with the addition of some salt into my diet. The sodium in the Gatorade has not seemed to be a problem and actually seems to help somewhat.> > > > > > My dr. appt got cancelled today and I go tomorrow. New dr. None of my PA paperwork is in my military file as we were away from a base when it all started. Just want to be on my toes and take the dr. some good info. Just hoping she listens to me.> > > > > > Anybody ever have anything like this happen before?> > > > > > Around a year ago I was eating so low sodium that my BP went really low 102/68 and pulse went high and

adding some salt seemed to help. Thanks for listening. > > > > > > -> > > 42 yoWF, 6 kids, military wife whose husband is currently deployed for a year. diagnosed PA 2007. AVS found hormone producing tumor on left, couldn't sample right, told me to have adrenelectomy of left and I declined as they could not sample right side> > >> >>

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Suspect they have not tested many normals to decide what is normal. CE Grim MDOn Jun 15, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Bingham wrote: I am curious, of those reading this, and who have had there vit D actually checked (when not on any vit D) how many had a low level? Anyone have a normal D level? I seem to meet no one, absolutely no one who gets it tested that comes back normal. Mine did not. My wifes did not. Our 15 yo did not, and when I was working fulltime my patients went to the same lab (theres only one up our way other than the hospital) and everyone is low. But When I took D I feel horrible. My wife,felt okay. Speaking of vitamins, I'm not sure this has anything to do with your issues but NIH found my Vit D to be real low. Apparently it does not come from many foods and you get a lot of it from exposure to sun. They were surprised my bone density was so good and attributed it to excess estrogen from my experience w/spironolactone. Being an "old farm boy", I suggested 3 glasses of good old Jersey milk a day didn't hurt! (I don't know how much milk they drink in Greece since that is where my doctor was from!)Anyway, he put me on 50,000 units weekly and we need to retest in 8 weeks.I just looked it up and know a couple of you said you were breast-feeding. If you are not supplementing your infant, you need to see this, "As noted earlier, the AAP recommends that exclusively and partially breastfed infants be supplemented with 400 IU of vitamin D per day [22], the RDA for this nutrient during infancy."For the whole story go here:http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminD-HealthProfessional/And now the wife suggested I go out and activate some vitamin D (MOW THE LAWN!)> > >> > > I was active on this board about a year ago and then I got pregnant with baby #6 and between two military moves and a year long deployment for my husband I have been on very little. Tried to start reading again, but still have 6000 messages!> > > > > > Diagnosed with PA in 2007, BP was regulated with a low salt diet. Average below 120/80. Healthy pregnancy and delivery of a beautiful girl 10 lb. 12 oz - no gestational diabetes, just pure chunk.> > > > > > I am now three and a half months post partum. BP has been fairly normal. In the 135/85 range, but I was happy as I know in the postpartum period there is some leveling out. About a month ago I felt odd and my bp was up to 176/100 or something like that. I believe I took a bath with Epsom salts (I have magnesium issues) and BP seemed normal. Has been normal since that time. About three days ago I felt like I was urinating all day long in tiny amounts. I also dropped 5 pounds in two days. I am eating a very low salt diet with virtually no processed foods. I take 20 MEQ of slow release K and drink 16 oz of OJ and 8 oz of low sodium V-8. In addition I eat lots of fruit and veggies and beans so I think my potassium is high enough.> > > > > > Tuesday morning my BP was 123/82 and a few hours later standing in the kitchen I felt weird and it was 180/103. I think I took my magnesium and it went down to maybe 150/92. BP has been up and down the last few days. I have been so thirsty and have a really dry mouth like I am dehydrated, but last night I couldn't seem to hold anything in for more than an hour before I would urinate. I couldn't sleep either. BP would be 180/103 and 15 min after water it would be 135/82 only to go back up after I urinated. It was like I couldn't hold on to water. > > > > > > Five years ago I had a situation like this when I was eight months post partum (breastfeeding both times, though now, my baby is strictly breastfed and my eight month old had started solids.> > > > > > Due to the weight loss I started drinking Gatorade and BP has been around 140/90 - not great, but not ridiculous. Any thoughts as to what is going on. In my pregnancy I had low sodium and felt less mentally strange with the addition of some salt into my diet. The sodium in the Gatorade has not seemed to be a problem and actually seems to help somewhat.> > > > > > My dr. appt got cancelled today and I go tomorrow. New dr. None of my PA paperwork is in my military file as we were away from a base when it all started. Just want to be on my toes and take the dr. some good info. Just hoping she listens to me.> > > > > > Anybody ever have anything like this happen before?> > > > > > Around a year ago I was eating so low sodium that my BP went really low 102/68 and pulse went high and adding some salt seemed to help. Thanks for listening. > > > > > > -> > > 42 yoWF, 6 kids, military wife whose husband is currently deployed for a year. diagnosed PA 2007. AVS found hormone producing tumor on left, couldn't sample right, told me to have adrenelectomy of left and I declined as they could not sample right side> > >> >>