Re: Is a Calorie Just a Calorie?

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None of us who talk about diet and exercise ever discount that there are a myriad of other factors at play, but if I were someone tuning in to this list, I'd get the impression that because some on here had hormonal issues it's THEY who completely discount that diet and exercise have anything to do with anyone's weight health because they have a story to tell that was different, and to the contrary many of us disagree that it's only hormones and nothing else that contribute to our weight. But it seems sometimes that ANY talk about healthy living suddenly raises the ire of those who disagree that diet and exercise can factor in our weight because there experience was different.

I will still argue and argue that we cannot make something from nothing. There is no miraculaous fat production. Something like the doc talks about in the article can influence metabolism and how we store it and burn it off and that is something wherein we all vary in our personal metabolisms, but we can't use 5 boards and suddenly have a 3 bedroom house. Now if we keep storing those boards again and again THEN we might end up with a house too big. But we still need all the boards to do it, not just 5 of them.

I have a daughter who is obese. Beautiful, but obese. But she also came out big and was our biggest child. Yet she does eat alot and tends to eat unhealthy and I am trying to figure out how to broach the subject in a loving way because in my Kynzee-Bear (I call her that the second she was born she looked like a teddy bear one would want to cuddle with) I panic a little for the first time someone hurts her feelings. She is 13. My wife and I are thin people so we can't really relate well.

From: dsmemory <dsmemory@...>Subject: Is a Calorie Just a Calorie?hyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2012, 9:39 PM

I know we have had extensive discussion on this board about caloric intake and weight gain. The question is . . ."Do calories taken in, minus calories expended out = weight gain"?Dr. Lustig, Dept. of Pediatrics in Endocrinology at UCSF puts this question to rest with compelling research. A calorie is NOT just a calorie. Metabolic syndrome is on the rise (which includes diabetes, obesity, hypertension, etc.) - watch this presentation through to the end and you will find out why.Go to www.youtube.com to watch "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" or click on this link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM & ob=av3e (you may have to cut and paste the link).The presentation is 1.5 hours long and well worth the watch for all of us who are trying to gain our health back.

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Dr. Lustig is one of my heroes, thanks for sharing this.

In addition to the arguments made against sugar, you may be interested in

similar arguments being made against industrialized wheat by Dr. ,

who blogs here: http://www.wheatbellyblog.com.

-msmith1928

Sugar-free, wheat-free, and to keep on topic, left-adrenal-free since 10-13-11

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> I know we have had extensive discussion on this board about caloric intake and

weight gain. The question is . . . " Do calories taken in, minus calories

expended out = weight gain " ?

>

> Dr. Lustig, Dept. of Pediatrics in Endocrinology at UCSF puts this

question to rest with compelling research. A calorie is NOT just a calorie.

Metabolic syndrome is on the rise (which includes diabetes, obesity,

hypertension, etc.) - watch this presentation through to the end and you will

find out why.

>

> Go to www.youtube.com to watch " Sugar: The Bitter Truth " or click on this

link:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM & ob=av3e (

> you may have to cut and paste the link).

>

> The presentation is 1.5 hours long and well worth the watch for all of us who

are trying to gain our health back.

>

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From all the research on weight gain/loss I can find a calorie is a calorie.The Keys studies on starvation documented this very well. if you have not read these recommend it. Can also look at some of the low calorie impoving survival sites as well but they are bit fringy IMHO.CE Grim MDOn Jun 7, 2012, at 12:36 AM, msmith_1928 wrote: Dr. Lustig is one of my heroes, thanks for sharing this. In addition to the arguments made against sugar, you may be interested in similar arguments being made against industrialized wheat by Dr. , who blogs here: http://www.wheatbellyblog.com. -msmith1928 Sugar-free, wheat-free, and to keep on topic, left-adrenal-free since 10-13-11 > > I know we have had extensive discussion on this board about caloric intake and weight gain. The question is . . ."Do calories taken in, minus calories expended out = weight gain"? > > Dr. Lustig, Dept. of Pediatrics in Endocrinology at UCSF puts this question to rest with compelling research. A calorie is NOT just a calorie. Metabolic syndrome is on the rise (which includes diabetes, obesity, hypertension, etc.) - watch this presentation through to the end and you will find out why. > > Go to www.youtube.com to watch "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" or click on this link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM & ob=av3e ( > you may have to cut and paste the link). > > The presentation is 1.5 hours long and well worth the watch for all of us who are trying to gain our health back. >

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IIRC Keys did most of his studies before the American industrial food supply

became as corrupted as it is now - his starvation studies were done around the

time of WWII and HFCS hadn't even been invented yet. There was little HFCS and

GMO wheat in our foods until recently.

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> > > I know we have had extensive discussion on this board about

> > caloric intake and weight gain. The question is . . . " Do calories

> > taken in, minus calories expended out = weight gain " ?

> > >

> > > Dr. Lustig, Dept. of Pediatrics in Endocrinology at UCSF

> > puts this question to rest with compelling research. A calorie is

> > NOT just a calorie. Metabolic syndrome is on the rise (which

> > includes diabetes, obesity, hypertension, etc.) - watch this

> > presentation through to the end and you will find out why.

> > >

> > > Go to www.youtube.com to watch " Sugar: The Bitter Truth " or click

> > on this link:

> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM & ob=av3e (

> > > you may have to cut and paste the link).

> > >

> > > The presentation is 1.5 hours long and well worth the watch for

> > all of us who are trying to gain our health back.

> > >

> >

> >

>

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They may have refed with some SPAM but not certain.I have a nice slide show on his studys but not certain where I can put it so others can view. It is a ppt.CE Grim MDOn Jun 7, 2012, at 12:14 PM, msmith_1928 wrote: IIRC Keys did most of his studies before the American industrial food supply became as corrupted as it is now - his starvation studies were done around the time of WWII and HFCS hadn't even been invented yet. There was little HFCS and GMO wheat in our foods until recently. > > > > > > I know we have had extensive discussion on this board about > > caloric intake and weight gain. The question is . . ."Do calories > > taken in, minus calories expended out = weight gain"? > > > > > > Dr. Lustig, Dept. of Pediatrics in Endocrinology at UCSF > > puts this question to rest with compelling research. A calorie is > > NOT just a calorie. Metabolic syndrome is on the rise (which > > includes diabetes, obesity, hypertension, etc.) - watch this > > presentation through to the end and you will find out why. > > > > > > Go to www.youtube.com to watch "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" or click > > on this link: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM & ob=av3e ( > > > you may have to cut and paste the link). > > > > > > The presentation is 1.5 hours long and well worth the watch for > > all of us who are trying to gain our health back. > > > > > > > >