Guest guest Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Natalia, when your blood sugar falls too low, your liver will kick out more glucose to compensate. From: " hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > hyperaldosteronism Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 2:24 PM Subject: Digest Number 3926 Conn's Syndrome and related problems Messages In This Digest (7 Messages) 1.1. Re: Adrenalectomy From: Clarence Grim 1.2. Re: Adrenalectomy From: Valarie 1.3. Re: Adrenalectomy From: msmith_1928 2a. Re: it's been awhile From: Clarence Grim 2b. Re: it's been awhile From: Clarence Grim 3a. Re: I'm confused.... From: Clarence Grim 4a. Re: Side effects of eplerenone??? From: Natalia Kamneva View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1.1. Re: Adrenalectomy Posted by: " Clarence Grim " lowerbp2@... lowerbp2 Fri Jun 8, 2012 6:45 am (PDT) Would like to review your AVS numbers as they are sometimes interpreted incorrectly. Need complete story to give you best advice based on our experiences here and my 50 years of doing this. May your pressure be low! CE Grim MS, MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension On Jun 8, 2012, at 8:35, Sara <sara212729 (DOT) com> wrote: > Hi everyone! I just got my test results back from my adrenal vein sampling. The excess aldosterone is coming from the left adrenal (35 x higher), which is the one with the 1 cm tumor. I am going to have an adrenalectomy. Any tips on recovery? I have a toddler and a baby and was just wondering what I should expect. Also I am worried that if I get one adrenal out at such a young age (31) if something could go wrong with the other adrenal down the road. I don't want to have to be stuck on steroids or anything. Any advice is greatly appreciated. So glad to have this group. > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (46) 1.2. Re: Adrenalectomy Posted by: " Valarie " val@... val1198 Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:22 am (PDT) You will want to have some help with the children for a few days. If your other adrenal develops an adenoma, the treatment is a mineralocorticoid blocker (spiro or Inspra), not a steroid. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism] On Behalf Of Sara Hi everyone! I just got my test results back from my adrenal vein sampling. The excess aldosterone is coming from the left adrenal (35 x higher), which is the one with the 1 cm tumor. I am going to have an adrenalectomy. Any tips on recovery? I have a toddler and a baby and was just wondering what I should expect. Also I am worried that if I get one adrenal out at such a young age (31) if something could go wrong with the other adrenal down the road. I don't want to have to be stuck on steroids or anything. Any advice is greatly appreciated. So glad to have this group. .. <http://geo.. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=7299303/ grpspId=17051327 63/msgId =43906/stime= 1339162511/ nc1=3848643/ nc2=5191951/ nc3=5191950> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (46) 1.3. Re: Adrenalectomy Posted by: " msmith_1928 " janeray1940@... msmith_1928 Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:32 am (PDT) My adrenalectomy was last October. I don't have kids, but I can imagine that if I did, the biggest problem would have been lifting. I was advised to not lift anything over 10 pounds for 4 weeks... of course exactly 4 weeks to the date I was feeling fine and lifted a heavy box, and ended up ripping the internal stitches or something which caused almost as much pain as the surgery itself! Aside from that, the recovery was really speedy - much easier than I expected. I took two weeks off from work and was back to all of my normal activities - yoga, hiking, etc - shortly thereafter. -msmith1928 Left laparoscopic adrenalectomy 10/13/11 >> > >> > Hello group, >> > >> > I am on eplerenone for 18 months now. Recently I started to be very prone to diarrhea. During this year I was 2 or 3 times on antibiotics because of that. Usually it disappears after week on antibiotics, until next time. >> > >> > This time it started about a week ago and lasts until now. It started along with a breast pain. >> > >> > My PCP always suggests that it's because of metformin, but I doubt it, since I take metformin for 15+ years already. >> > >> > Dr Grim suggested that it might be side effect of eplerenone. >> > >> > What the people who are on eplerenone think? >> > >> > Diane, I am especially interested in your opinion, since you mentioned that you changed eplerenone to spiro because of it's side effects. What particularly did you experience? >> > >> > I had some experience with BP medications caused diarrhea. But it seems to me more like infection now, not a simple medication side effect. It lasts too long, it's pretty severe. I have pain, sweating, nausea, sometimes slight fewer. I cannot eat anything, lost 6 pounds for the week and feel very exhausted and fatigued. >> > >> > >> > Many thanks. >> > >> > >> >  >> > Natalia Kamneva 68 Russian F with 2 cm left adrenal adenoma, recently diagnosed with PA; diabetic; on 75 mg eplerenone, 80 mg Micardis, 2000 mg metformin, 60 mg Dexilant and 2 mg Lorazepam; Dashing; still have some occasional problems with BP, K and Na; on private consultation with Dr Grim. >> > >> > >> > ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> > From: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@> >> > Natalia Kamneva <natalia_kamneva@ > >> > Cc: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@> >> > Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 2:40 PM >> > Subject: Re: MIR or catScan >> > >> > >> > I would query the group about diarrhea with eplere. >> > >> > > > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (11) Recent Activity 4 New Members 1 New Links Visit Your Group Health Asthma Triggers How you can identify them. 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Guest guest Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Maybe. But I never tested lower than 98 for last 15 years. Natalia From: Pnb B <pnb60@...> hyperaldosteronism Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: Digest Number 3926 Natalia, when your blood sugar falls too low, your liver will kick out more glucose to compensate. From: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > hyperaldosteronism Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 2:24 PM Subject: Digest Number 3926 Conn's Syndrome and related problems Messages In This Digest (7 Messages) 1.1. Re: Adrenalectomy From: Clarence Grim 1.2. Re: Adrenalectomy From: Valarie 1.3. Re: Adrenalectomy From: msmith_1928 2a. Re: it's been awhile From: Clarence Grim 2b. Re: it's been awhile From: Clarence Grim 3a. Re: I'm confused.... From: Clarence Grim 4a. Re: Side effects of eplerenone??? From: Natalia Kamneva View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1.1. Re: Adrenalectomy Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@... lowerbp2 Fri Jun 8, 2012 6:45 am (PDT) Would like to review your AVS numbers as they are sometimes interpreted incorrectly. Need complete story to give you best advice based on our experiences here and my 50 years of doing this. May your pressure be low! CE Grim MS, MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension On Jun 8, 2012, at 8:35, Sara <sara212729 (DOT) com> wrote: > Hi everyone! I just got my test results back from my adrenal vein sampling. The excess aldosterone is coming from the left adrenal (35 x higher), which is the one with the 1 cm tumor. I am going to have an adrenalectomy. Any tips on recovery? I have a toddler and a baby and was just wondering what I should expect. Also I am worried that if I get one adrenal out at such a young age (31) if something could go wrong with the other adrenal down the road. I don't want to have to be stuck on steroids or anything. Any advice is greatly appreciated. So glad to have this group. > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (46) 1.2. Re: Adrenalectomy Posted by: "Valarie " val@... val1198 Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:22 am (PDT) You will want to have some help with the children for a few days. If your other adrenal develops an adenoma, the treatment is a mineralocorticoid blocker (spiro or Inspra), not a steroid. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism] On Behalf Of Sara Hi everyone! I just got my test results back from my adrenal vein sampling. The excess aldosterone is coming from the left adrenal (35 x higher), which is the one with the 1 cm tumor. I am going to have an adrenalectomy. Any tips on recovery? I have a toddler and a baby and was just wondering what I should expect. Also I am worried that if I get one adrenal out at such a young age (31) if something could go wrong with the other adrenal down the road. I don't want to have to be stuck on steroids or anything. Any advice is greatly appreciated. So glad to have this group. .. <http://geo.. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=7299303/ grpspId=17051327 63/msgId =43906/stime= 1339162511/ nc1=3848643/ nc2=5191951/ nc3=5191950> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (46) 1.3. Re: Adrenalectomy Posted by: "msmith_1928" janeray1940@... msmith_1928 Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:32 am (PDT) My adrenalectomy was last October. I don't have kids, but I can imagine that if I did, the biggest problem would have been lifting. I was advised to not lift anything over 10 pounds for 4 weeks... of course exactly 4 weeks to the date I was feeling fine and lifted a heavy box, and ended up ripping the internal stitches or something which caused almost as much pain as the surgery itself! Aside from that, the recovery was really speedy - much easier than I expected. I took two weeks off from work and was back to all of my normal activities - yoga, hiking, etc - shortly thereafter. -msmith1928 Left laparoscopic adrenalectomy 10/13/11 >> > >> > Hello group, >> > >> > I am on eplerenone for 18 months now. Recently I started to be very prone to diarrhea. During this year I was 2 or 3 times on antibiotics because of that. Usually it disappears after week on antibiotics, until next time. >> > >> > This time it started about a week ago and lasts until now. It started along with a breast pain. >> > >> > My PCP always suggests that it's because of metformin, but I doubt it, since I take metformin for 15+ years already. >> > >> > Dr Grim suggested that it might be side effect of eplerenone. >> > >> > What the people who are on eplerenone think? >> > >> > Diane, I am especially interested in your opinion, since you mentioned that you changed eplerenone to spiro because of it's side effects. What particularly did you experience? >> > >> > I had some experience with BP medications caused diarrhea. But it seems to me more like infection now, not a simple medication side effect. It lasts too long, it's pretty severe. I have pain, sweating, nausea, sometimes slight fewer. I cannot eat anything, lost 6 pounds for the week and feel very exhausted and fatigued. >> > >> > >> > Many thanks. >> > >> > >> >  >> > Natalia Kamneva 68 Russian F with 2 cm left adrenal adenoma, recently diagnosed with PA; diabetic; on 75 mg eplerenone, 80 mg Micardis, 2000 mg metformin, 60 mg Dexilant and 2 mg Lorazepam; Dashing; still have some occasional problems with BP, K and Na; on private consultation with Dr Grim. >> > >> > >> > ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> > From: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@> >> > Natalia Kamneva <natalia_kamneva@ > >> > Cc: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@> >> > Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 2:40 PM >> > Subject: Re: MIR or catScan >> > >> > >> > I would query the group about diarrhea with eplere. >> > >> > > > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (11) Recent Activity 4 New Members 1 New Links Visit Your Group Health Asthma Triggers How you can identify them. 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Guest guest Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 It you have PA cottage cheese isn't the best choice as it has lots of salt in it. > > Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Cottage cheese has about 400MG of Sodium per serving. Better choice is Greek yogurt only has 65MG of sodium. > > > > Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Many, many thanks. I don't eat cottage cheese, since it contains a lot of sodium, but I am doing my own cottage cheese from buttermilk. I think it's the same, is not it? Definitely will try, thanks a lot. NataliaFrom: Pnb B <pnb60@...> "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Digest Number 3926 Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Check the sodium content in your buttermilk. I was shocked to see that a cup contained 290mg. It's better than cottage cheese, but still.............. Many, many thanks. I don't eat cottage cheese, since it contains a lot of sodium, but I am doing my own cottage cheese from buttermilk. I think it's the same, is not it? Definitely will try, thanks a lot. NataliaFrom: Pnb B <pnb60@...> "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Digest Number 3926 Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yes, it's true. I only hope that in the process of doing cottage cheese some sodium is eliminated, since big part of buttermilk goes into whey. Does it make any sense? Natalia From: Dianne strong <dianstrong@...> hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: Digest Number 3926 Check the sodium content in your buttermilk. I was shocked to see that a cup contained 290mg. It's better than cottage cheese, but still.............. Many, many thanks. I don't eat cottage cheese, since it contains a lot of sodium, but I am doing my own cottage cheese from buttermilk. I think it's the same, is not it? Definitely will try, thanks a lot. NataliaFrom: Pnb B <pnb60@...> "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Digest Number 3926 Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Not sure if it makes sense or not, but I do know that when I live on too many hopes, rather than facts, my BP goes up - as in "I hope this has less sodium". Many, many thanks. I don't eat cottage cheese, since it contains a lot of sodium, but I am doing my own cottage cheese from buttermilk. I think it's the same, is not it? Definitely will try, thanks a lot. NataliaFrom: Pnb B <pnb60@...> "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Digest Number 3926 Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Read the label. CE GOn Jun 12, 2012, at 9:30 PM, Dianne strong wrote: Not sure if it makes sense or not, but I do know that when I live on too many hopes, rather than facts, my BP goes up - as in "I hope this has less sodium". Many, many thanks. I don't eat cottage cheese, since it contains a lot of sodium, but I am doing my own cottage cheese from buttermilk. I think it's the same, is not it? Definitely will try, thanks a lot. NataliaFrom: Pnb B <pnb60@...> "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Digest Number 3926 Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 It's really easy to make your own. Most areas of the country have a source for raw milk, and you can get the culture through the mail. Yogurt as well. > > > > Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 And you can control salt content better. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jun 13, 2012, at 10:13, pnb60 <pnb60@...> wrote: It's really easy to make your own. Most areas of the country have a source for raw milk, and you can get the culture through the mail. Yogurt as well. > > > > Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Dr. Grim, unfortunately, I cannot read the label on something that I am doing by myself :-)Dianne, you are right. This approach definitely has more sense. Many thanks, Natalia From: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:16 AM Subject: Re: Re: Digest Number 3926 Read the label. CE GOn Jun 12, 2012, at 9:30 PM, Dianne strong wrote: Not sure if it makes sense or not, but I do know that when I live on too many hopes, rather than facts, my BP goes up - as in "I hope this has less sodium". Many, many thanks. I don't eat cottage cheese, since it contains a lot of sodium, but I am doing my own cottage cheese from buttermilk. I think it's the same, is not it? Definitely will try, thanks a lot. NataliaFrom: Pnb B <pnb60@...> "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Digest Number 3926 Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I have to learn how to make it from milk. I am doing it from butter milk from grocery store but buttermilk contains much more sodium than milk.Thank you, NataliaFrom: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Re: Digest Number 3926 And you can control salt content better. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jun 13, 2012, at 10:13, pnb60 <pnb60@...> wrote: It's really easy to make your own. Most areas of the country have a source for raw milk, and you can get the culture through the mail. Yogurt as well. > > > > Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Go to the site that lists every thing u use to make it. FDA food and nutrients but don't recall exact site. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jun 13, 2012, at 15:02, Natalia Kamneva <natalia_kamneva@...> wrote: Dr. Grim, unfortunately, I cannot read the label on something that I am doing by myself :-)Dianne, you are right. This approach definitely has more sense. Many thanks, Natalia From: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:16 AM Subject: Re: Re: Digest Number 3926 Read the label. CE GOn Jun 12, 2012, at 9:30 PM, Dianne strong wrote: Not sure if it makes sense or not, but I do know that when I live on too many hopes, rather than facts, my BP goes up - as in "I hope this has less sodium". Many, many thanks. I don't eat cottage cheese, since it contains a lot of sodium, but I am doing my own cottage cheese from buttermilk. I think it's the same, is not it? Definitely will try, thanks a lot. NataliaFrom: Pnb B <pnb60@...> "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Digest Number 3926 Natalia, I'm diabetic, too. If you eat a high protein snack before bed, like cottage cheese, your blood sugar will be normal in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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