Dynamic Variable Neuromuscular Stimulation Systems

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C. Mark wrote:

I met with a company called, " The Facility " It is a gym only for trainers

to train there clients in, if the trainer does not have his or her own

studio......While there. I was advised that if I wanted to train some of The

Facility's members or clients, I would have to take their course in DVNS

System.

Casler writes:

There are very few Strength Training Systems that would not fit within the

definition of terms in DVNS.

C. Mark wrote:

I was also given a very small demo. This was done doing the bench press,

the first thing that I noticed was that the trainer was sort of in my face,

standing very close, making personal contact almost from the begining. He

adivsed that I should do three sets of 10 reps, and when that was done, we

did half rep, one arm reps, other motion reps, the idea was to lift the bar

to his hands, so the trainer was in constend fontal contact with you. When

it was done I noticed a pretty good burn in my chest.

Casler writes:

When a Trainer develops their training style there are TWO important things:

1) Get the desired results safely

2) Cause the trainee to develop a dependency on the trainer, insuring longer

term clients.

C. Mark wrote:

Oh one other thing....when you pressed on this chest press machine your

whole body moved srt of up and fowards, very strange movement, but smoother

than any other machine I have ever been on

Casler writes:

Sounds like the new line of " Roc-it " machines from HOIST.

C. Mark wrote:

Here is the question.....Since I am 71 years old, and specialize in 50 year

old clients and above...I have what they need. I was promised that they

would be able to supple me with all the clients I wanted, but I had to take

there 16 hour course first for a fee of 500.00

Has anyone heard of this system? Does anyone have any clinical studies, or

even other not so clinical studies on this system. Before I pay to do

something I may totally opposed to I would love to get some information from

any who may have it. From my short time with this, my feeling was that the

trainer was very, very, very, good at what he did. He made contact, and

pushed...very close to me at all times, almost as a training partner would

be, and that made me work harder.

Casler writes:

There could be debate on exactly what benefits you would receive from that

specific program (especially if it is all machine based) but there is little

doubt that a good trainer will (or should) know how to create or motivate

progressively higher levels of effort, performance and intensity.

C. Mark wrote:

It is mostly muscles under tension.. is there any science that shows that

the long the muscle is under tension the more hyperthrophy happens. Anyone

have any knowledge about this.

Casler writes:

TUT (time under tension) and TUL (time under load) can be beneficial to

hypertrophy if combined with sufficient TENSION or LOAD. As well, if the

tension/load is sufficient blood flow through the muscle is reduced during

the reps. This creates circulatory occlusion, and this occlusion can

benefit hypertrophy.

This can also be maximized by employing continuous tension/non-lock reps.

However, it is a balancing of the elements of TUT/TUL with the level of the

load, and the rest periods between sets (or even reps) that will ultimately

determine the level of hypertrophy. Many become enamored with a specific

TUL/TUT and lose track of the other required elements of TENSION/LOAD, and

REST between SETS or REPS.

Also, many tend to be more " concerned " with timing reps and sets, to the

point that they sacrifice LOAD. This is done by volitionally slowing the

rep speed to meet the TIME under the incorrect belief that the time is more

important than the load/tension. This is not true for most applications.

C. Mark wrote:

I am from the old school. So many reps and a % of a one rep max, depends on

whether you want to build endurance, muscle, power and strength

Casler writes:

While I know it is sacrilege to say so, I think the % of 1RM is archaic,

insufficient, and virtually impossible to use in a reasonable way. 1RM

efforts are a " moving target " and insufficient for a reasonable test

standard on most all exercises. Imagine trying to apply this standard to

curls, triceps presses, or pulldowns. They might be applicable to a more

trained and accomplished athlete who has developed the necessary skills and

confidence to actually apply maximal effort, but for most trainers and

trainees, they are virtually useless.

I squat 50-60 workouts a year, and have NO IDEA what my 1RM Squat is, and I

have been training for over 50 years.

All that said, you don't offer enough information to be able to fully

evaluate what DVNS might be.

Sounds to me like they want to program you with what they consider " their

brand " of training at that facility, and if it is safe and effective, that

may not be a bad thing, but without more info, one can only speculate.

Regards,

Casler

TRI-VECTOR 3-D Training Systems

Century City, CA

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