Guest guest Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Thanks Dr. Ralph it does. Of course, in our fractured feds, everybody mostly " wins " and is mostly " world champion " lately, sigh. Good story of a little girl learning a good sport and I hope she stays with it - a lot of female PL give up at the college level or thereabouts because of pressure to be more well, " girly " and possibly get married. Peer and other pressures take their toll, unless they find a good team that supports their efforts in remaining strong and true to themselves. Maybe I'll lose my CO state records to Abby someday - Mel used to say, " Records get broken, titles you have forever " . The Phantom aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter Denver, Colorado, USA 13-Year-Old Girl Becomes Powerlifting World-Record Holde This article should put a smile on 's face 13-Year-Old Girl Becomes Powerlifting World-Record Holde http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/29/13-year-old-girl-becomes-powerlifting-world-\ record-holder/ Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 This brings a question to my mind. Is it okay for children to lift heavy weights at this age? Edwin Freeman, Jr. San Francisco, USA 13-Year-Old Girl Becomes Powerlifting World-Record Holde This article should put a smile on 's face 13-Year-Old Girl Becomes Powerlifting World-Record Holde http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/29/13-year-old-girl-becomes-powerlifting-world-\ record-holder/ Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Naomi Kutin holds THE world record in the squat, she's 10. http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/21520 From: efreem3407@... <efreem3407@...> Subject: Re: 13-Year-Old Girl Becomes Powerlifting World-Record Holde Supertraining Date: Monday, January 30, 2012, 3:25 PM  This brings a question to my mind. Is it okay for children to lift heavy weights at this age? Edwin Freeman, Jr. San Francisco, USA 13-Year-Old Girl Becomes Powerlifting World-Record Holde This article should put a smile on 's face 13-Year-Old Girl Becomes Powerlifting World-Record Holde http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/29/13-year-old-girl-becomes-powerlifting-world-\ record-holder/ Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Perhaps - and there's the simple fact that raw lifting has not drawn the same lifters that equipped has so far. Sure, there are some good raw lifts - but equipment only makes up part of the picture, you must be strong before you put it on. Folks like Sioux-Z Hartwig (formerly a 97 lb'er) are good for considerably more than 2 plates raw. The Raw lifting in question also allows some assist in the knees - and a belt. The federation at the time Sioux-Z (just as a comparison) did not recognize RAW lifting - and therefore she did not put in a full strength effort officially at a meet, raw. That's just one of many smaller athletes who likely would have done pretty well. That 10 yo is strong though, and I hope she sticks with the sport. Who can say. Simply put, the best lifters overall and likely true owners of some of the " raw " records still haven't bothered to come forward and well, shatter what's there at present. Plus RUM is just 1 meet, it's a non federation meet - AAU (for example) has had raw lifting for the longest time of all feds - I'd look at their lifts to make some comparison, then start looking at feds with a lot of members and their raw meets. As I've said before, there are too many feds, too many so called WR holders. I don't bother to count mine any more - what I register is my lifetime PR's and how they increase if possible. Sure, I'm a master, but I also competed at the Olympia Invitational, which was only for those top ranked and literally by invitation only. Just like the Arnold invitational meets. It's too bad. It's part of the " everybody has to finish first " thing that has taken over. If you don't run from real competition, you won't always win. But you'll also know you really competed...instead of the sham of 1st all the time. Too many feds, too many divisions, have divided my sport. I compete the open in protest, and folks don't generally want to be in the open against even an old lady like me. Sigh. For me, PL is now about having fun. Challenging myself. I hope the little girls in the articles continue on and enjoy the sport for life. Lift and be strong. the Phantom aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter Denver, Colorado, USA 13-Year-Old Girl Becomes Powerlifting World-Record Holde This article should put a smile on 's face 13-Year-Old Girl Becomes Powerlifting World-Record Holde http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/29/13-year-old-girl-becomes-powerlifting-world-\ record-holder/ Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Hi , I don't know if you've been following USAPL much, but they have had a Raw Nationals since 2008 and IPF will be offering a World Championship in 2013 (I believe). Also, the Arnold has had a Raw Challenge for at least 2-3 years now. USAPL/IPF allows belt, knee sleeves (slip-on only without straps to tighten), and wrist wraps. I agree with you that a lifter needs to be strong before using gear. Unfortunately, I don't see many of the top equipped lifters entering the Raw categories: they pretty much figure " if it ain't broke, don't fix (change) it " . JMHO. Merrick Bellevue, NE > > Perhaps - and there's the simple fact that raw lifting has not drawn the same lifters that equipped has so far. > > > Sure, there are some good raw lifts - but equipment only makes up part of the picture, you must be strong before you put it on. Folks like Sioux-Z Hartwig (formerly a 97 lb'er) are good for considerably more than 2 plates raw. The Raw lifting in question also allows some assist in the knees - and a belt. The federation at the time Sioux-Z (just as a comparison) did not recognize RAW lifting - and therefore she did not put in a full strength effort officially at a meet, raw. That's just one of many smaller athletes who likely would have done pretty well. That 10 yo is strong though, and I hope she sticks with the sport. Who can say. > > Simply put, the best lifters overall and likely true owners of some of the " raw " records still haven't bothered to come forward and well, shatter what's there at present. Plus RUM is just 1 meet, it's a non federation meet - AAU (for example) has had raw lifting for the longest time of all feds - I'd look at their lifts to make some comparison, then start looking at feds with a lot of members and their raw meets. > > As I've said before, there are too many feds, too many so called WR holders. I don't bother to count mine any more - what I register is my lifetime PR's and how they increase if possible. Sure, I'm a master, but I also competed at the Olympia Invitational, which was only for those top ranked and literally by invitation only. Just like the Arnold invitational meets. > > It's too bad. It's part of the " everybody has to finish first " thing that has taken over. If you don't run from real competition, you won't always win. But you'll also know you really competed...instead of the sham of 1st all the time. Too many feds, too many divisions, have divided my sport. I compete the open in protest, and folks don't generally want to be in the open against even an old lady like me. > > Sigh. > > For me, PL is now about having fun. Challenging myself. > > I hope the little girls in the articles continue on and enjoy the sport for life. Lift and be strong. > > the Phantom > aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter > Denver, Colorado, USA > (material deleted) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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