Explanation for arthritis aggravation by food.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have major flare up when consume meat, egg and dairy food and I

found that majority of the arthritis patients have the same problem.

Appreciated if anyone can offer logical explanation for this. I have

two exlanations and pls correct me if wrong:

1.) Arthitis caused by infection and food will feed on pathogens in

the body thus increase its population.

2) Arthritis caused by protein molecules whick leak through the

intestine wall.

Regards

Ler

[Guest guest]

You may want to read this tidbit of information as it may not be

arthritis, but if it is this could also be a reason for its

aggravation.

http://www.cybervitamins.com/gout.htm

[Guest guest]

> I have major flare up when consume meat, egg and dairy food and I

> found that majority of the arthritis patients have the same problem.

> Appreciated if anyone can offer logical explanation for this. I have

> two exlanations and pls correct me if wrong:

I don't flare up from eating those foods, myself. Perhaps there are

different factors at work in different people. If you are allergic to

something in those foods, it will likely cause a flare-up. Anecdotal

information seems to suggest that eliminating foods you are allergic to will

reduce flare-up or even induce remission in some people. Dr. Brown

described RA as an allergy of sorts, i.e. a reaction similar to an allergic

reaction with inflammation and immune complexes, to the toxins produced by

microbes. Therefore it makes sense that anything that puts you into a

hypersensitive state would tend to make RA flare up. Incidentally, it seems

to work the other way as well, according to his book " The Road Back " . He

said that as his patients began to improve from the treatment, other

allergies and sensitivities to medications got better also.

> 1.) Arthitis caused by infection and food will feed on pathogens in

> the body thus increase its population.

>

> 2) Arthritis caused by protein molecules whick leak through the

> intestine wall.

>

These are both theories with some evidence to support them. There are

studies that found pathogens in places they would not normally be found,

like the studies that found C. Pneumoniae in the joints of spondylitis

patients, for one example which combines both of these theories. Also,

there are studies that find identical sequences in the histocompatibility

genes (the ones that determine tissue types and tissue rejection) with gene

segments on certain pathogens. (See www.kickas.org and do a search for Dr.

Ebringer's work there)

Personally, I find what invariably flares me, as right now with a GI virus

I've picked up, is any infection anywhere in my body that gets my immune

system " riled up " . It also confirms to me that there is something to the

leaky gut theory, as while any infections seem to flare me, the ones that

affect the gut the most make for the worst flares. I've been going along

for some time now woth only one joint swollen, and after this bout of virus

started, I've got dozens flaring with my wrists so bad that my fingers are

going numb..and on that note, I've got to stop typing now.....hope some of

this helps. Liz G.

[Guest guest]

Welcome to our group Ler,

The role of diet in arthritis has been studied and there are

several theories about the cause of arthritis. There is a

definite link between joint inflammation and gut

inflammation, which researchers have known about and are

studying. One theory is that cereal grains (wheat,corn,

oats, rye, barley, or legumes, such as beans and peas) which

contain lectins, cause an immune response which can develop

into RA. Some people with RA, that have switched to a

vegetarian diet and include fish in their diet have reported

remission.

Chronic potassium deficiency is another theory of the cause

of RA. It has been noted that people that have RA, have low

potassium, but I've never seen any research that

investigates this. Since so many hormones are regulated by

potassium, and hormones also seem to be linked, I'm

surprised that there hasn't been more research in this

department. Chronic dehydration has been mentioned as a

cause, but I feel that ties into the potassium deficiency

theory since water regulates the balance of potassium.

Copper metabolism is another theory. A study was done on men

in Finland that worked in a copper mine, and they had little

arthritis and rarely got infections. The rest of the Finnish

population suffers from a higher than normal rate of RA, and

it's found that they drink a large quantity of milk, which

has a very low copper content. Milk consumption has a high

correlation with cardiovascular disease, and some believe

that all dairy products shouldn't be eaten.

http://www.notmilk.com/ailmenu.html has a list of ailments

that some believe has attributed to consumption of dairy.

Since reading supporting research, I've drastically reduced

my dairy intake, limiting it to an occasional pizza. Anyone

that believes that food allergy has contributed to their

arthritis should do the elimination diet. Allergy doctors

say that dairy products are a major cause of allergy.

Sometimes a person doesn't have an outward allergic

reaction, they may just be intolerant to the offending food.

Nutrition and Rheumatoid Arthritis, by Hopkins:

http://www.hopkins-arthritis.som.jhmi.edu/mngmnt/nutinra.htm

l

has a lot of information about nutrition and it's link to

arthritis.

The Road Back Foundation (Dedicated to Antibiotic Treatment

for Arthritis) http://www.roadback.org has the best

information I've found regarding the infectious theories of

arthritis.

We've had many discussions here about these subjects, and if

you go to the archives of our group you can access the

messages. There is also many links that I keep at my website

http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/

Hope this helps.

a

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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 2:08 AM

Subject: [ ] Explanation for arthritis

aggravation by food.

Hi,

I have major flare up when consume meat, egg and dairy

food and I

found that majority of the arthritis patients have the

same problem.

Appreciated if anyone can offer logical explanation for

this. I have

two exlanations and pls correct me if wrong:

1.) Arthitis caused by infection and food will feed on

pathogens in

the body thus increase its population.

2) Arthritis caused by protein molecules whick leak

through the

intestine wall.

Regards

Ler