Guest guest Posted June 6, 2001 Report Share Posted June 6, 2001 Hi all: Yesterday was a really bad day, would have stayed in bed if it didn't hurt so much to do that! It rained all day. Lucky for me my Pain Management Counselor called me and wanted to know how I was doing. I explained the situation to her and now they are going to try a new med. I tell you there has to be something out there that works! I was taking the Morphine 30mg twice a day, but kept falling asleep during the day. We lowered the amount to 15mg twice a day, that helped me to stay awake but it gave the aches time to sneak back in. Now we are going to try 15mg three times a day with 2 Percasets (sp?) on the really bad days. Those bad days for me are on rainy dark dreary days. And believe it or not I'm taking Prozac to help the problem... Does anyone else have a problem finding a med to help? I'm not ready for Remicade yet, mine is more arthritis and a back injury problem. At least the pain management counselor is doing her best to help me find relief. No chance of back surgery due to my heart problem. God Bless, Bonnie -------------------------------------------------- ICQ #14826055 Name: nana_bonnie AIM Name: gmabonny PalTalk name 007grandma BeeCall name 007grandma Birthday 1-16-47 ___________________________________________________________________ To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2001 Report Share Posted June 7, 2001 Bonnie, Sorry that you had such a bad day yesterday. I'm happy that you have a pain management counselor and that she is trying to help you. Don't give up. There are many medications and combinations out there to try. Many people here struggle with pain and have had or are currently having trouble finding meds that will work for the pain without side-effects that are troubling. Keep trying! Remicade is not FDA approved osteoarthritis (OA). Although the TNF-alpha that Remicade inhibits does seem to play a significant role in cartilage destruction, most OA treatment strategies focus on the pain that is caused by existing damage, not prevention of new damage. I hope someday soon that changes! Hope today has been better for you. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Bonnie F. " <007grandma@...> < > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Bad Day > Hi all: > Yesterday was a really bad day, would have stayed > in bed if it didn't hurt so much to do that! It > rained all day. > Lucky for me my Pain Management Counselor called > me and wanted to know how I was doing. I explained > the situation to her and now they are going to > try a new med. I tell you there has to be something > out there that works! > I was taking the Morphine 30mg twice a day, but > kept falling asleep during the day. We lowered > the amount to 15mg twice a day, that helped me > to stay awake but it gave the aches time to sneak > back in. > Now we are going to try 15mg three times a day > with 2 Percasets (sp?) on the really bad days. > Those bad days for me are on rainy dark dreary > days. And believe it or not I'm taking Prozac to > help the problem... > Does anyone else have a problem finding a med > to help? I'm not ready for Remicade yet, mine is > more arthritis and a back injury problem. At least > the pain management counselor is doing her best > to help me find relief. No chance of back surgery > due to my heart problem. > God Bless, Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 Thanks everyone for your encouragement! Today is methotrexate day so am spending most of the day in bed TRYING not to throw up. ) Gotta smile...crying makes my stomach hurt. Hope all of your days are good ones!!!!! Ohh, Ginny...I hope you find a good doc soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep the faith!!! Carla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 -sounds like you are both very sensative to chemical toxins. I have the same problems around plastics, cloths, perfumes, new shoes and the list goes on. it might be hard to deturmine what it is thats getting to you. it's gets so aggervateing, I cant even love on a little baby because the baby powders and lotions cause reactions, and I preached pretty hard to my daughters not to use that stuff on the babies. I held one the other day, he was so cute and was trying very hard to have a conversation with me, 4 months old. all I could think of was if these things caused reactions to me, how does it affect the tiny lungs of a baby. I had to have someone take him because I was coughing,airways closeing up,getting dizzy,etc. I was afraid i would drop him because i get very weak very quick. -- In , Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: > > Felice, > I really understand and know what your going through. That is usually what causes me to sleep alot and get depressed and you won't hear from me for awhile. I get very reclusive. Honestly I can't see what the phone would have to do with anything, but sounds like a cool phone though, and I felt lucky to finally get the crusty ol 2 somthing ghz. LOL I will tell you this. My ex wife and I would fight badly because i would react from her hairspray or the kids spray smelly stuff all the time and long after the sent had gone away. ANd not long ago my mom, dad and I drove back from California from my grandads funeral. I would literaly throw up and it took quite awhile even after getting out of the car after the trip to recover from her hairspray and perfume. But hairspray is the worst for me. I just cannot take it at all and it seems to stay with me the longest. Not so much the smell but the tase stays and is awfull. It makes the already metalic tase in my mouth so much worse. i > believe that is probobly most of it. I don't know about leather but as I have mentioned I have had to completley avoid the plastic aisles in stores because I react to that smell badley. My dad does not smell it at all but my mom has began smelling what I am talking about and can now smell the same thing I do as far as the plastics goes but you may have had a reaction to the leather in the same way as I do the plastic. That is a good possability, then mixed with the hairspray I can see that making things feel that much worse. I noticed yesturday in the doctors office a ladie sat down next to me. She has a good bit of perfume on (at least for me) and I got up and went outside immediatly but today when I woke up I was so stuffed up I could not believe it and did not know why but now that I am explaining this I remembered that and am certain that had to be what it was, due to process of elimination of anything that has been different than usual. > So based on all that I have said that is what I think happened to you. Between the two I can understant why you would feel the way you do. Some sprays of silver hydrosol and soaking my head underwater in a hot bath usually help with the headache and stufiness for me. Try that and see what happens. Oh, and stay out of the leather bag department... Ha ha, I know, ya right... > Chris... > > felice <anupath14@...> wrote: > the whole day I feel like I have a bad flu and I'm trying to figure out what triggered it. I'm hoping you guys can help me. > 2 days ago I went to the mall, (no mask). Yes it was difficult. Was in the leather bag dept. too long, tried on shoes blah, blah, blah. Bought that new 5.8 house phone. Didn't feel great that night but lived through it. Yesterday wasnt bad. > When I use the phone my mouth gets dry and i get a bit headachy. (do I just live through that or are there alternatives?) > so, this am, i stop at my neighbors while walking my dog. she JUST used hair spray! i feel it in my throat and leave within 30 secs. Feel a bit dizzy on way home, within the hour, feel the full blown flu and feel like this all day. > So, what's your concensus?? Was it the mall 2 days ago? The new phones? The hair spray?? I actually went to my family physician cause my chest and ribs hurt thinking I had pneumonia. NOT! > I had myself a good cry feeling sorry for myself. Now what? I am still trying the " positive. " seeing the beautiful flowers, I can stand up, use the computer... > I need your support adjusting to this quick, strong, illness. I need HOPE. thank you, felice > > > > > > > Life is a balance of holding on and letting go... > > --------------------------------- > All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 WHO--Your story is heartbreaking. Could you make a gift of unscented baby products to your daughters? They apparently do not understand your situation very much. And yes I would think scented baby lotion, powder, shampoo, etc. would have to be overwhelming to a 4 month old. I even saw scented disposable diapers when I googled unscented baby products. L who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -sounds like you are both very sensative to chemical toxins. I have the same problems around plastics, cloths, perfumes, new shoes and the list goes on. it might be hard to deturmine what it is thats getting to you. it's gets so aggervateing, I cant even love on a little baby because the baby powders and lotions cause reactions, and I preached pretty hard to my daughters not to use that stuff on the babies. I held one the other day, he was so cute and was trying very hard to have a conversation with me, 4 months old. all I could think of was if these things caused reactions to me, how does it affect the tiny lungs of a baby. I had to have someone take him because I was coughing,airways closeing up,getting dizzy,etc. I was afraid i would drop him because i get very weak very quick. -- In , Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: > > Felice, > I really understand and know what your going through. That is usually what causes me to sleep alot and get depressed and you won't hear from me for awhile. I get very reclusive. Honestly I can't see what the phone would have to do with anything, but sounds like a cool phone though, and I felt lucky to finally get the crusty ol 2 somthing ghz. LOL I will tell you this. My ex wife and I would fight badly because i would react from her hairspray or the kids spray smelly stuff all the time and long after the sent had gone away. ANd not long ago my mom, dad and I drove back from California from my grandads funeral. I would literaly throw up and it took quite awhile even after getting out of the car after the trip to recover from her hairspray and perfume. But hairspray is the worst for me. I just cannot take it at all and it seems to stay with me the longest. Not so much the smell but the tase stays and is awfull. It makes the already metalic tase in my mouth so much worse. i > believe that is probobly most of it. I don't know about leather but as I have mentioned I have had to completley avoid the plastic aisles in stores because I react to that smell badley. My dad does not smell it at all but my mom has began smelling what I am talking about and can now smell the same thing I do as far as the plastics goes but you may have had a reaction to the leather in the same way as I do the plastic. That is a good possability, then mixed with the hairspray I can see that making things feel that much worse. I noticed yesturday in the doctors office a ladie sat down next to me. She has a good bit of perfume on (at least for me) and I got up and went outside immediatly but today when I woke up I was so stuffed up I could not believe it and did not know why but now that I am explaining this I remembered that and am certain that had to be what it was, due to process of elimination of anything that has been different than usual. > So based on all that I have said that is what I think happened to you. Between the two I can understant why you would feel the way you do. Some sprays of silver hydrosol and soaking my head underwater in a hot bath usually help with the headache and stufiness for me. Try that and see what happens. Oh, and stay out of the leather bag department... Ha ha, I know, ya right... > Chris... > > felice <anupath14@...> wrote: > the whole day I feel like I have a bad flu and I'm trying to figure out what triggered it. I'm hoping you guys can help me. > 2 days ago I went to the mall, (no mask). Yes it was difficult. Was in the leather bag dept. too long, tried on shoes blah, blah, blah. Bought that new 5.8 house phone. Didn't feel great that night but lived through it. Yesterday wasnt bad. > When I use the phone my mouth gets dry and i get a bit headachy. (do I just live through that or are there alternatives?) > so, this am, i stop at my neighbors while walking my dog. she JUST used hair spray! i feel it in my throat and leave within 30 secs. Feel a bit dizzy on way home, within the hour, feel the full blown flu and feel like this all day. > So, what's your concensus?? Was it the mall 2 days ago? The new phones? The hair spray?? I actually went to my family physician cause my chest and ribs hurt thinking I had pneumonia. NOT! > I had myself a good cry feeling sorry for myself. Now what? I am still trying the " positive. " seeing the beautiful flowers, I can stand up, use the computer... > I need your support adjusting to this quick, strong, illness. I need HOPE. thank you, felice > > > > > > > Life is a balance of holding on and letting go... > > --------------------------------- > All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Who--I am very sensitive as well. Where I live the neighbors all treat their yards and houses and there is so much pollution and mold it is unimaginable. I hope you recover. Abbie who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -sounds like you are both very sensative to chemical toxins. I have the same problems around plastics, cloths, perfumes, new shoes and the list goes on. it might be hard to deturmine what it is thats getting to you. it's gets so aggervateing, I cant even love on a little baby because the baby powders and lotions cause reactions, and I preached pretty hard to my daughters not to use that stuff on the babies. I held one the other day, he was so cute and was trying very hard to have a conversation with me, 4 months old. all I could think of was if these things caused reactions to me, how does it affect the tiny lungs of a baby. I had to have someone take him because I was coughing,airways closeing up,getting dizzy,etc. I was afraid i would drop him because i get very weak very quick. -- In , Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: > > Felice, > I really understand and know what your going through. That is usually what causes me to sleep alot and get depressed and you won't hear from me for awhile. I get very reclusive. Honestly I can't see what the phone would have to do with anything, but sounds like a cool phone though, and I felt lucky to finally get the crusty ol 2 somthing ghz. LOL I will tell you this. My ex wife and I would fight badly because i would react from her hairspray or the kids spray smelly stuff all the time and long after the sent had gone away. ANd not long ago my mom, dad and I drove back from California from my grandads funeral. I would literaly throw up and it took quite awhile even after getting out of the car after the trip to recover from her hairspray and perfume. But hairspray is the worst for me. I just cannot take it at all and it seems to stay with me the longest. Not so much the smell but the tase stays and is awfull. It makes the already metalic tase in my mouth so much worse. i > believe that is probobly most of it. I don't know about leather but as I have mentioned I have had to completley avoid the plastic aisles in stores because I react to that smell badley. My dad does not smell it at all but my mom has began smelling what I am talking about and can now smell the same thing I do as far as the plastics goes but you may have had a reaction to the leather in the same way as I do the plastic. That is a good possability, then mixed with the hairspray I can see that making things feel that much worse. I noticed yesturday in the doctors office a ladie sat down next to me. She has a good bit of perfume on (at least for me) and I got up and went outside immediatly but today when I woke up I was so stuffed up I could not believe it and did not know why but now that I am explaining this I remembered that and am certain that had to be what it was, due to process of elimination of anything that has been different than usual. > So based on all that I have said that is what I think happened to you. Between the two I can understant why you would feel the way you do. Some sprays of silver hydrosol and soaking my head underwater in a hot bath usually help with the headache and stufiness for me. Try that and see what happens. Oh, and stay out of the leather bag department... Ha ha, I know, ya right... > Chris... > > felice <anupath14@...> wrote: > the whole day I feel like I have a bad flu and I'm trying to figure out what triggered it. I'm hoping you guys can help me. > 2 days ago I went to the mall, (no mask). Yes it was difficult. Was in the leather bag dept. too long, tried on shoes blah, blah, blah. Bought that new 5.8 house phone. Didn't feel great that night but lived through it. Yesterday wasnt bad. > When I use the phone my mouth gets dry and i get a bit headachy. (do I just live through that or are there alternatives?) > so, this am, i stop at my neighbors while walking my dog. she JUST used hair spray! i feel it in my throat and leave within 30 secs. Feel a bit dizzy on way home, within the hour, feel the full blown flu and feel like this all day. > So, what's your concensus?? Was it the mall 2 days ago? The new phones? The hair spray?? I actually went to my family physician cause my chest and ribs hurt thinking I had pneumonia. NOT! > I had myself a good cry feeling sorry for myself. Now what? I am still trying the " positive. " seeing the beautiful flowers, I can stand up, use the computer... > I need your support adjusting to this quick, strong, illness. I need HOPE. thank you, felice > > > > > > > Life is a balance of holding on and letting go... > > --------------------------------- > All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 -Thanks Abbie, you to. I know, it seems imposable to avoid everything around us. -- In , abbie mccall <abbiebeam@...> wrote: > > Who--I am very sensitive as well. Where I live the neighbors all treat their yards and houses and there is so much pollution and mold it is unimaginable. I hope you recover. Abbie > > who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -sounds like you are both very sensative to chemical toxins. I have > the same problems around plastics, cloths, perfumes, new shoes and > the list goes on. it might be hard to deturmine what it is thats > getting to you. it's gets so aggervateing, I cant even love on a > little baby because the baby powders and lotions cause reactions, and > I preached pretty hard to my daughters not to use that stuff on the > babies. I held one the other day, he was so cute and was trying very > hard to have a conversation with me, 4 months old. all I could think > of was if these things caused reactions to me, how does it affect the > tiny lungs of a baby. I had to have someone take him because I was > coughing,airways closeing up,getting dizzy,etc. I was afraid i would > drop him because i get very weak very quick. -- In > , Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@> > wrote: > > > > Felice, > > I really understand and know what your going through. That is > usually what causes me to sleep alot and get depressed and you won't > hear from me for awhile. I get very reclusive. Honestly I can't see > what the phone would have to do with anything, but sounds like a cool > phone though, and I felt lucky to finally get the crusty ol 2 > somthing ghz. LOL I will tell you this. My ex wife and I would fight > badly because i would react from her hairspray or the kids spray > smelly stuff all the time and long after the sent had gone away. ANd > not long ago my mom, dad and I drove back from California from my > grandads funeral. I would literaly throw up and it took quite awhile > even after getting out of the car after the trip to recover from her > hairspray and perfume. But hairspray is the worst for me. I just > cannot take it at all and it seems to stay with me the longest. Not > so much the smell but the tase stays and is awfull. It makes the > already metalic tase in my mouth so much worse. i > > believe that is probobly most of it. I don't know about leather > but as I have mentioned I have had to completley avoid the plastic > aisles in stores because I react to that smell badley. My dad does > not smell it at all but my mom has began smelling what I am talking > about and can now smell the same thing I do as far as the plastics > goes but you may have had a reaction to the leather in the same way > as I do the plastic. That is a good possability, then mixed with the > hairspray I can see that making things feel that much worse. I > noticed yesturday in the doctors office a ladie sat down next to me. > She has a good bit of perfume on (at least for me) and I got up and > went outside immediatly but today when I woke up I was so stuffed up > I could not believe it and did not know why but now that I am > explaining this I remembered that and am certain that had to be what > it was, due to process of elimination of anything that has been > different than usual. > > So based on all that I have said that is what I think happened to > you. Between the two I can understant why you would feel the way you > do. Some sprays of silver hydrosol and soaking my head underwater in > a hot bath usually help with the headache and stufiness for me. Try > that and see what happens. Oh, and stay out of the leather bag > department... Ha ha, I know, ya right... > > Chris... > > > > felice <anupath14@> wrote: > > the whole day I feel like I have a bad flu and I'm trying > to figure out what triggered it. I'm hoping you guys can help me. > > 2 days ago I went to the mall, (no mask). Yes it was difficult. Was > in the leather bag dept. too long, tried on shoes blah, blah, blah. > Bought that new 5.8 house phone. Didn't feel great that night but > lived through it. Yesterday wasnt bad. > > When I use the phone my mouth gets dry and i get a bit headachy. > (do I just live through that or are there alternatives?) > > so, this am, i stop at my neighbors while walking my dog. she JUST > used hair spray! i feel it in my throat and leave within 30 secs. > Feel a bit dizzy on way home, within the hour, feel the full blown > flu and feel like this all day. > > So, what's your concensus?? Was it the mall 2 days ago? The new > phones? The hair spray?? I actually went to my family physician cause > my chest and ribs hurt thinking I had pneumonia. NOT! > > I had myself a good cry feeling sorry for myself. Now what? I am > still trying the " positive. " seeing the beautiful flowers, I can > stand up, use the computer... > > I need your support adjusting to this quick, strong, illness. I > need HOPE. thank you, felice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is a balance of holding on and letting go... > > > > --------------------------------- > > All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things > done faster. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 email me sometime if you need you need a shoulder who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -Thanks Abbie, you to. I know, it seems imposable to avoid everything around us. -- In , abbie mccall <abbiebeam@...> wrote: > > Who--I am very sensitive as well. Where I live the neighbors all treat their yards and houses and there is so much pollution and mold it is unimaginable. I hope you recover. Abbie > > who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -sounds like you are both very sensative to chemical toxins. I have > the same problems around plastics, cloths, perfumes, new shoes and > the list goes on. it might be hard to deturmine what it is thats > getting to you. it's gets so aggervateing, I cant even love on a > little baby because the baby powders and lotions cause reactions, and > I preached pretty hard to my daughters not to use that stuff on the > babies. I held one the other day, he was so cute and was trying very > hard to have a conversation with me, 4 months old. all I could think > of was if these things caused reactions to me, how does it affect the > tiny lungs of a baby. I had to have someone take him because I was > coughing,airways closeing up,getting dizzy,etc. I was afraid i would > drop him because i get very weak very quick. -- In > , Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@> > wrote: > > > > Felice, > > I really understand and know what your going through. That is > usually what causes me to sleep alot and get depressed and you won't > hear from me for awhile. I get very reclusive. Honestly I can't see > what the phone would have to do with anything, but sounds like a cool > phone though, and I felt lucky to finally get the crusty ol 2 > somthing ghz. LOL I will tell you this. My ex wife and I would fight > badly because i would react from her hairspray or the kids spray > smelly stuff all the time and long after the sent had gone away. ANd > not long ago my mom, dad and I drove back from California from my > grandads funeral. I would literaly throw up and it took quite awhile > even after getting out of the car after the trip to recover from her > hairspray and perfume. But hairspray is the worst for me. I just > cannot take it at all and it seems to stay with me the longest. Not > so much the smell but the tase stays and is awfull. It makes the > already metalic tase in my mouth so much worse. i > > believe that is probobly most of it. I don't know about leather > but as I have mentioned I have had to completley avoid the plastic > aisles in stores because I react to that smell badley. My dad does > not smell it at all but my mom has began smelling what I am talking > about and can now smell the same thing I do as far as the plastics > goes but you may have had a reaction to the leather in the same way > as I do the plastic. That is a good possability, then mixed with the > hairspray I can see that making things feel that much worse. I > noticed yesturday in the doctors office a ladie sat down next to me. > She has a good bit of perfume on (at least for me) and I got up and > went outside immediatly but today when I woke up I was so stuffed up > I could not believe it and did not know why but now that I am > explaining this I remembered that and am certain that had to be what > it was, due to process of elimination of anything that has been > different than usual. > > So based on all that I have said that is what I think happened to > you. Between the two I can understant why you would feel the way you > do. Some sprays of silver hydrosol and soaking my head underwater in > a hot bath usually help with the headache and stufiness for me. Try > that and see what happens. Oh, and stay out of the leather bag > department... Ha ha, I know, ya right... > > Chris... > > > > felice <anupath14@> wrote: > > the whole day I feel like I have a bad flu and I'm trying > to figure out what triggered it. I'm hoping you guys can help me. > > 2 days ago I went to the mall, (no mask). Yes it was difficult. Was > in the leather bag dept. too long, tried on shoes blah, blah, blah. > Bought that new 5.8 house phone. Didn't feel great that night but > lived through it. Yesterday wasnt bad. > > When I use the phone my mouth gets dry and i get a bit headachy. > (do I just live through that or are there alternatives?) > > so, this am, i stop at my neighbors while walking my dog. she JUST > used hair spray! i feel it in my throat and leave within 30 secs. > Feel a bit dizzy on way home, within the hour, feel the full blown > flu and feel like this all day. > > So, what's your concensus?? Was it the mall 2 days ago? The new > phones? The hair spray?? I actually went to my family physician cause > my chest and ribs hurt thinking I had pneumonia. NOT! > > I had myself a good cry feeling sorry for myself. Now what? I am > still trying the " positive. " seeing the beautiful flowers, I can > stand up, use the computer... > > I need your support adjusting to this quick, strong, illness. I > need HOPE. thank you, felice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is a balance of holding on and letting go... > > > > --------------------------------- > > All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things > done faster. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 -Sorry Leigh, I wasn't clear on my post. my daughters actually are now understand it all pretty well, it helps that they've seen alot going on with me, and I talk to them about it a lot,and force them to listen,lol's.theri youngest ones are now 2+ years old, when they were babies, I didn't exactly understand why thier smelly stuff caused this reaction but I knew if it bothered me it had to affect them somehow.I did gripe at my daughters than and they listened, maybe because it scared them to see me get sick from smelly baby products, even though they didn't understand why. it was someone elses baby I was holding the other day. those baby wipes are the worst. but you do have a great idea, I know my girls found some things, unsented diaper wipes and lotion.but without understanding of this illness I dont know if a unsented basket would be recieved very well. but this baby is now part of the family by marrage. no, my daughters are getting it, it's my parents and sisters and brother that dont understand it but I'm working on them. -- In , Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> wrote: > > WHO--Your story is heartbreaking. Could you make a gift of unscented baby products to your daughters? They apparently do not understand your situation very much. And yes I would think scented baby lotion, powder, shampoo, etc. would have to be overwhelming to a 4 month old. I even saw scented disposable diapers when I googled unscented baby products. L > > who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -sounds like you are both very sensative to chemical toxins. I have > the same problems around plastics, cloths, perfumes, new shoes and > the list goes on. it might be hard to deturmine what it is thats > getting to you. it's gets so aggervateing, I cant even love on a > little baby because the baby powders and lotions cause reactions, and > I preached pretty hard to my daughters not to use that stuff on the > babies. I held one the other day, he was so cute and was trying very > hard to have a conversation with me, 4 months old. all I could think > of was if these things caused reactions to me, how does it affect the > tiny lungs of a baby. I had to have someone take him because I was > coughing,airways closeing up,getting dizzy,etc. I was afraid i would > drop him because i get very weak very quick. -- In > , Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@> > wrote: > > > > Felice, > > I really understand and know what your going through. That is > usually what causes me to sleep alot and get depressed and you won't > hear from me for awhile. I get very reclusive. Honestly I can't see > what the phone would have to do with anything, but sounds like a cool > phone though, and I felt lucky to finally get the crusty ol 2 > somthing ghz. LOL I will tell you this. My ex wife and I would fight > badly because i would react from her hairspray or the kids spray > smelly stuff all the time and long after the sent had gone away. ANd > not long ago my mom, dad and I drove back from California from my > grandads funeral. I would literaly throw up and it took quite awhile > even after getting out of the car after the trip to recover from her > hairspray and perfume. But hairspray is the worst for me. I just > cannot take it at all and it seems to stay with me the longest. Not > so much the smell but the tase stays and is awfull. It makes the > already metalic tase in my mouth so much worse. i > > believe that is probobly most of it. I don't know about leather > but as I have mentioned I have had to completley avoid the plastic > aisles in stores because I react to that smell badley. My dad does > not smell it at all but my mom has began smelling what I am talking > about and can now smell the same thing I do as far as the plastics > goes but you may have had a reaction to the leather in the same way > as I do the plastic. That is a good possability, then mixed with the > hairspray I can see that making things feel that much worse. I > noticed yesturday in the doctors office a ladie sat down next to me. > She has a good bit of perfume on (at least for me) and I got up and > went outside immediatly but today when I woke up I was so stuffed up > I could not believe it and did not know why but now that I am > explaining this I remembered that and am certain that had to be what > it was, due to process of elimination of anything that has been > different than usual. > > So based on all that I have said that is what I think happened to > you. Between the two I can understant why you would feel the way you > do. Some sprays of silver hydrosol and soaking my head underwater in > a hot bath usually help with the headache and stufiness for me. Try > that and see what happens. Oh, and stay out of the leather bag > department... Ha ha, I know, ya right... > > Chris... > > > > felice <anupath14@> wrote: > > the whole day I feel like I have a bad flu and I'm trying > to figure out what triggered it. I'm hoping you guys can help me. > > 2 days ago I went to the mall, (no mask). Yes it was difficult. Was > in the leather bag dept. too long, tried on shoes blah, blah, blah. > Bought that new 5.8 house phone. Didn't feel great that night but > lived through it. Yesterday wasnt bad. > > When I use the phone my mouth gets dry and i get a bit headachy. > (do I just live through that or are there alternatives?) > > so, this am, i stop at my neighbors while walking my dog. she JUST > used hair spray! i feel it in my throat and leave within 30 secs. > Feel a bit dizzy on way home, within the hour, feel the full blown > flu and feel like this all day. > > So, what's your concensus?? Was it the mall 2 days ago? The new > phones? The hair spray?? I actually went to my family physician cause > my chest and ribs hurt thinking I had pneumonia. NOT! > > I had myself a good cry feeling sorry for myself. Now what? I am > still trying the " positive. " seeing the beautiful flowers, I can > stand up, use the computer... > > I need your support adjusting to this quick, strong, illness. I > need HOPE. thank you, felice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is a balance of holding on and letting go... > > > > --------------------------------- > > All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things > done faster. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 I think people ethe get t or they don't. I think it depends how much self esteem they have. People with a lot of self esteem can go without their products. who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -Sorry Leigh, I wasn't clear on my post. my daughters actually are now understand it all pretty well, it helps that they've seen alot going on with me, and I talk to them about it a lot,and force them to listen,lol's.theri youngest ones are now 2+ years old, when they were babies, I didn't exactly understand why thier smelly stuff caused this reaction but I knew if it bothered me it had to affect them somehow.I did gripe at my daughters than and they listened, maybe because it scared them to see me get sick from smelly baby products, even though they didn't understand why. it was someone elses baby I was holding the other day. those baby wipes are the worst. but you do have a great idea, I know my girls found some things, unsented diaper wipes and lotion.but without understanding of this illness I dont know if a unsented basket would be recieved very well. but this baby is now part of the family by marrage. no, my daughters are getting it, it's my parents and sisters and brother that dont understand it but I'm working on them. -- In , Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> wrote: > > WHO--Your story is heartbreaking. Could you make a gift of unscented baby products to your daughters? They apparently do not understand your situation very much. And yes I would think scented baby lotion, powder, shampoo, etc. would have to be overwhelming to a 4 month old. I even saw scented disposable diapers when I googled unscented baby products. L > > who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -sounds like you are both very sensative to chemical toxins. I have > the same problems around plastics, cloths, perfumes, new shoes and > the list goes on. it might be hard to deturmine what it is thats > getting to you. it's gets so aggervateing, I cant even love on a > little baby because the baby powders and lotions cause reactions, and > I preached pretty hard to my daughters not to use that stuff on the > babies. I held one the other day, he was so cute and was trying very > hard to have a conversation with me, 4 months old. all I could think > of was if these things caused reactions to me, how does it affect the > tiny lungs of a baby. I had to have someone take him because I was > coughing,airways closeing up,getting dizzy,etc. I was afraid i would > drop him because i get very weak very quick. -- In > , Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@> > wrote: > > > > Felice, > > I really understand and know what your going through. That is > usually what causes me to sleep alot and get depressed and you won't > hear from me for awhile. I get very reclusive. Honestly I can't see > what the phone would have to do with anything, but sounds like a cool > phone though, and I felt lucky to finally get the crusty ol 2 > somthing ghz. LOL I will tell you this. My ex wife and I would fight > badly because i would react from her hairspray or the kids spray > smelly stuff all the time and long after the sent had gone away. ANd > not long ago my mom, dad and I drove back from California from my > grandads funeral. I would literaly throw up and it took quite awhile > even after getting out of the car after the trip to recover from her > hairspray and perfume. But hairspray is the worst for me. I just > cannot take it at all and it seems to stay with me the longest. Not > so much the smell but the tase stays and is awfull. It makes the > already metalic tase in my mouth so much worse. i > > believe that is probobly most of it. I don't know about leather > but as I have mentioned I have had to completley avoid the plastic > aisles in stores because I react to that smell badley. My dad does > not smell it at all but my mom has began smelling what I am talking > about and can now smell the same thing I do as far as the plastics > goes but you may have had a reaction to the leather in the same way > as I do the plastic. That is a good possability, then mixed with the > hairspray I can see that making things feel that much worse. I > noticed yesturday in the doctors office a ladie sat down next to me. > She has a good bit of perfume on (at least for me) and I got up and > went outside immediatly but today when I woke up I was so stuffed up > I could not believe it and did not know why but now that I am > explaining this I remembered that and am certain that had to be what > it was, due to process of elimination of anything that has been > different than usual. > > So based on all that I have said that is what I think happened to > you. Between the two I can understant why you would feel the way you > do. Some sprays of silver hydrosol and soaking my head underwater in > a hot bath usually help with the headache and stufiness for me. Try > that and see what happens. Oh, and stay out of the leather bag > department... Ha ha, I know, ya right... > > Chris... > > > > felice <anupath14@> wrote: > > the whole day I feel like I have a bad flu and I'm trying > to figure out what triggered it. I'm hoping you guys can help me. > > 2 days ago I went to the mall, (no mask). Yes it was difficult. Was > in the leather bag dept. too long, tried on shoes blah, blah, blah. > Bought that new 5.8 house phone. Didn't feel great that night but > lived through it. Yesterday wasnt bad. > > When I use the phone my mouth gets dry and i get a bit headachy. > (do I just live through that or are there alternatives?) > > so, this am, i stop at my neighbors while walking my dog. she JUST > used hair spray! i feel it in my throat and leave within 30 secs. > Feel a bit dizzy on way home, within the hour, feel the full blown > flu and feel like this all day. > > So, what's your concensus?? Was it the mall 2 days ago? The new > phones? The hair spray?? I actually went to my family physician cause > my chest and ribs hurt thinking I had pneumonia. NOT! > > I had myself a good cry feeling sorry for myself. Now what? I am > still trying the " positive. " seeing the beautiful flowers, I can > stand up, use the computer... > > I need your support adjusting to this quick, strong, illness. I > need HOPE. thank you, felice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is a balance of holding on and letting go... > > > > --------------------------------- > > All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things > done faster. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 One way to WAKE up your daughter is to tell her that the baby podwer ingredients aka talc is chemically related to absetos (sic) and ob-gyns I know during cervical biopsy's have found traces of talc in the tumors. That is why a lot of them do not recommend talc but corn starch for diaper rash. On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Leigh McCall-Alton wrote: > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:25:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> > Reply- > > Subject: Re: [] Re: bad day > > WHO--Your story is heartbreaking. Could you make a gift of unscented baby products to your daughters? They apparently do not understand your situation very much. And yes I would think scented baby lotion, powder, shampoo, etc. would have to be overwhelming to a 4 month old. I even saw scented disposable diapers when I googled unscented baby products. L > > who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -sounds like you are both very sensative to chemical toxins. I have > the same problems around plastics, cloths, perfumes, new shoes and > the list goes on. it might be hard to deturmine what it is thats > getting to you. it's gets so aggervateing, I cant even love on a > little baby because the baby powders and lotions cause reactions, and > I preached pretty hard to my daughters not to use that stuff on the > babies. I held one the other day, he was so cute and was trying very > hard to have a conversation with me, 4 months old. all I could think > of was if these things caused reactions to me, how does it affect the > tiny lungs of a baby. I had to have someone take him because I was > coughing,airways closeing up,getting dizzy,etc. I was afraid i would > drop him because i get very weak very quick. -- In > , Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> > wrote: >> >> Felice, >> I really understand and know what your going through. That is > usually what causes me to sleep alot and get depressed and you won't > hear from me for awhile. I get very reclusive. Honestly I can't see > what the phone would have to do with anything, but sounds like a cool > phone though, and I felt lucky to finally get the crusty ol 2 > somthing ghz. LOL I will tell you this. My ex wife and I would fight > badly because i would react from her hairspray or the kids spray > smelly stuff all the time and long after the sent had gone away. ANd > not long ago my mom, dad and I drove back from California from my > grandads funeral. I would literaly throw up and it took quite awhile > even after getting out of the car after the trip to recover from her > hairspray and perfume. But hairspray is the worst for me. I just > cannot take it at all and it seems to stay with me the longest. Not > so much the smell but the tase stays and is awfull. It makes the > already metalic tase in my mouth so much worse. i >> believe that is probobly most of it. I don't know about leather > but as I have mentioned I have had to completley avoid the plastic > aisles in stores because I react to that smell badley. My dad does > not smell it at all but my mom has began smelling what I am talking > about and can now smell the same thing I do as far as the plastics > goes but you may have had a reaction to the leather in the same way > as I do the plastic. That is a good possability, then mixed with the > hairspray I can see that making things feel that much worse. I > noticed yesturday in the doctors office a ladie sat down next to me. > She has a good bit of perfume on (at least for me) and I got up and > went outside immediatly but today when I woke up I was so stuffed up > I could not believe it and did not know why but now that I am > explaining this I remembered that and am certain that had to be what > it was, due to process of elimination of anything that has been > different than usual. >> So based on all that I have said that is what I think happened to > you. Between the two I can understant why you would feel the way you > do. Some sprays of silver hydrosol and soaking my head underwater in > a hot bath usually help with the headache and stufiness for me. Try > that and see what happens. Oh, and stay out of the leather bag > department... Ha ha, I know, ya right... >> Chris... >> >> felice <anupath14@...> wrote: >> the whole day I feel like I have a bad flu and I'm trying > to figure out what triggered it. I'm hoping you guys can help me. >> 2 days ago I went to the mall, (no mask). Yes it was difficult. Was > in the leather bag dept. too long, tried on shoes blah, blah, blah. > Bought that new 5.8 house phone. Didn't feel great that night but > lived through it. Yesterday wasnt bad. >> When I use the phone my mouth gets dry and i get a bit headachy. > (do I just live through that or are there alternatives?) >> so, this am, i stop at my neighbors while walking my dog. she JUST > used hair spray! i feel it in my throat and leave within 30 secs. > Feel a bit dizzy on way home, within the hour, feel the full blown > flu and feel like this all day. >> So, what's your concensus?? Was it the mall 2 days ago? The new > phones? The hair spray?? I actually went to my family physician cause > my chest and ribs hurt thinking I had pneumonia. NOT! >> I had myself a good cry feeling sorry for myself. Now what? I am > still trying the " positive. " seeing the beautiful flowers, I can > stand up, use the computer... >> I need your support adjusting to this quick, strong, illness. I > need HOPE. thank you, felice >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Life is a balance of holding on and letting go... >> >> --------------------------------- >> All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things > done faster. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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