Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I. Was wondering how many people in this group have fibromyalgia. I have been on disability since I was 45 because of this disease.I am now 58. Working out really helps me out. I start my day with pilates then move on to my favorite which is weight lifting. I know it is hard to make yourself workout when you dont feel good which is how I feel if I dont work. I believe if you just push yourself to do some light stretchging exercise every day you will start to feel better soon. It allows the body to release natural pain killers to kick in & all the other good stuff our body has, just waiting for us to use it. Make this a normal part of your day & in a short amount of time you should be feeling better & not so depressed feeling. I know for myself I can tell a huge difference if I skip to many workouts. I'll usually end up spending the day in bed. I am on a lot of meds for pain & various other problems i have as well. The meds can only do so much on their own the rest is up to me . Sure i can take larger amounts & stronger meds but then the meds would have controll of my life that is something i like to have as much control over as i can. So go buy you some pilates dvd a floor mat & start stretching. ++Please ensure you sign all posts with your full name, city and country of residence++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 A quick search on Google Scholar found the following abstracts on exercise and fibromyalgia Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA ________________________________ From: dmdtyl <dmdtyl@...> Supertraining Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 3:29 PM Subject: fibromyalgia & working out  I. Was wondering how many people in this group have fibromyalgia. I have been on disability since I was 45 because of this disease.I am now 58. Working out really helps me out. I start my day with pilates then move on to my favorite which is weight lifting. I know it is hard to make yourself workout when you dont feel good which is how I feel if I dont work. I believe if you just push yourself to do some light stretchging exercise every day you will start to feel better soon. It allows the body to release natural pain killers to kick in & all the other good stuff our body has, just waiting for us to use it. Make this a normal part of your day & in a short amount of time you should be feeling better & not so depressed feeling. I know for myself I can tell a huge difference if I skip to many workouts. I'll usually end up spending the day in bed. I am on a lot of meds for pain & various other problems i have as well. The meds can only do so much on their own the rest is up to me . Sure i can take larger amounts & stronger meds but then the meds would have controll of my life that is something i like to have as much control over as i can. So go buy you some pilates dvd a floor mat & start stretching. ++Please ensure you sign all posts with your full name, city and country of residence++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Have you tried Feldenkrais? Diane Barker Montreal Canada On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Ralph Giarnella <ragiarn@...> wrote: > ** > > > A quick search on Google Scholar found the following abstracts on exercise > and fibromyalgia > > Ralph Giarnella MD > Southington Ct. USA > > ________________________________ > From: dmdtyl <dmdtyl@...> > Supertraining > Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 3:29 PM > Subject: fibromyalgia & working out > > > > I. Was wondering how many people in this group have fibromyalgia. I have > been on disability since I was 45 because of this disease.I am now 58. > Working out really helps me out. I start my day with pilates then move on > to my favorite which is weight lifting. I know it is hard to make yourself > workout when you dont feel good which is how I feel if I dont work. I > believe if you just push yourself to do some light stretchging exercise > every day you will start to feel better soon. It allows the body to release > natural pain killers to kick in & all the other good stuff > our body has, just waiting for us to use it. Make this a normal part of > your day & in a short amount of time you should be feeling better & not so > depressed feeling. I know for myself I can tell a huge difference if I skip > to many workouts. I'll usually end up spending the day in bed. I am on a > lot of meds for pain & various other problems i have as well. The meds can > only do so much on their own the rest is up to me . Sure i can take larger > amounts & stronger meds but then the meds would have controll of my life > that is something i like to have as much control over as i can. So go buy > you some pilates dvd a floor mat & start stretching. > > ++Please ensure you sign all posts with your full name, city and country > of residence++ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Oops I forgot to include the abstracts Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA J Rheumatol.1996 Jun;23(6):1050-3. An exercise program in the treatment of fibromyalgia. L, Nutting A, MacIntosh BR, Edworthy SM, Butterwick D, Cook J. Source Faculty of Medicine, University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Abstract OBJECTIVE: To assess the utility of an exercise program, which included aerobic, flexibility and strengthening elements, in the treatment of fibromyalgia (FM). FM is a chronic musculoskeletal condition characterized by diffuse musculoskeletal pain and aching. It has been suggested that aerobic exercise is helpful in its treatment. METHODS: We studied 60 patients who met American College of Rheumatology criteria for FM and had no significant comorbidities. Measurements performed on each patient at the pre and poststudy assessment included the number of tender points (TP), total myalgic scores , aerobic fitness (AF), flexibility and isokinetic strength. After initial evaluation patients were randomly assigned to either an exercise or a relaxation group. Each group met 3 times per week for 6 weeks for 1 h of supervised exercise or relaxation. All patients data were stored in a computerized database and statistical analysis was performed on all pre and poststudy assessments. RESULTS: Thirty-eight patients (18 exercise and 20 relaxation) completed the study. Analysis of our data showed no significant difference between the groups in their prestudy assessment. Poststudy assessments, however, showed a significant improvement between the exercise and relaxation groups in TP (p < 0.05), TM (p < 0.05), and AF (p < 0.05). Similar improvements were also found when the pre and poststudy assessment of the exercise group were compared. CONCLUSION: Exercise is helpful in the management of FM in the short term. It also shows that FM patients can undertake an exercise program which includes aerobic, flexibility, and strength training exercises without adverse effects. The long term utility of this type of exercise requires further evaluation. PMID: 8782139 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] [Fibromyalgia--effect of exercise]. [Article in Norwegian] Kurtze N. Source HUNT forskningssenter, Institutt for samfunnsmedisin, Det medisinske fakultet, Norges teknisk-naturvitenskapelige universitet, Neptunveien 1 7650 Verdal. nanna.kurtze@... Abstract BACKGROUND: Fibromyalgia is a chronic widespread unexplained musculoskeletal pain syndrome with decreased pain threshold. Because the etiology of fibromyalgia is unknown and the pathogenesis is unidentified, treatment is largely symptomatic and not standardised. The pain and fatigue reported by individuals with fibromyalgia results in a relative sedentary lifestyle, hence also a decrease in the fitness level of skeletal muscles. MATERIAL AND METHODS: In order to assess the effect of exercise in fibromyalgia, the Cochrane Controlled Trials Register was reviewed; 17 studies of exercise interventions on cardiorespiratory endurance, muscle strength and/or flexibility were selected. RESULTS: The results from the studies are inconsistent but low-intensity aerobic exercise regimens were found to be one of the few effective treatments. In these studies, however, subjective pain levels fail to show significant improvement, although improvements are seen on other parameters such as improvement in the number of tender points, in total myalgic scores and reduced tender point tenderness, improved aerobic capacity, physical function, subjective well-being and self-efficacy. INTERPRETATION: The group exercises varied from 1-3 times per week, sessions from 25 minutes to 90 minutes; the duration of the programmes from 6 weeks to 6 month. Most of the programmes were low-intensity dynamic endurance training with a working rate at 50-70 % of maximal heart rate in relation to age. J Rheumatol.2008 Jun;35(6):1130-44. Epub 2008 May 1. Exercise for fibromyalgia: a systematic review. Busch AJ, Schachter CL, Overend TJ, Peloso PM, Barber KA. Source School of Physical Therapy, University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. .Busch@... Abstract OBJECTIVE: Fibromyalgia (FM) is a syndrome expressed by chronic widespread pain often associated with reduced physical function. Exercise is a common recommendation in management of FM. We evaluated the effects of exercise training on global well-being, selected signs and symptoms, and physical function in individuals with FM. METHODS: We searched Medline, Embase, CINAHL, SportDiscus, PubMed, PEDro, and the Cochrane Central Register for Controlled Trials to July 2005 and included randomized trials evaluating cardiorespiratory endurance, muscle strength, and flexibility. Methodological quality was assessed using the van Tulder and Jadad instruments. Training protocols were evaluated using American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) guidelines. Clinical heterogeneity limited metaanalysis to 6 aerobic and 2 strength studies. RESULTS: There were 2276 subjects across the 34 studies; 1264 subjects were assigned to exercise interventions. Metaanalysis of 6 studies provided moderate-quality evidence that aerobic-only exercise training at ACSM-recommended intensity levels has positive effects on global well-being (SMD 0.49, 95% CI 0.23-0.75) and physical function (SMD 0.66, 95% CI 0.41-0.92) and possibly on pain (SMD 0.65, 95% CI -0.09 to 1.39) and tender points (SMD 0.23, 95% CI -0.18 to 0.65). Strength and flexibility remain underevaluated; however, strength training may have a positive effect on FM symptoms. CONCLUSION: Aerobic-only training has beneficial effects on physical function and some FM symptoms. Strength-only training may improve FM symptoms, but requires further study. Large, high-quality studies of exercise-only interventions that provide detailed information on exercise prescription and adherence are needed. Rheumatol Int.2010 Jul;30(9):1143-50. Epub 2010 Mar 26. Aerobic exercise in fibromyalgia: a practical review. EN, Blotman F. Source Lapeyronie Hospital, 34295 CHRU Montpellier, France. e-thomas@... Abstract The objective of the study was to determine the current evidence to support guidelines for aerobic exercise (AE) and fibromyalgia (FM) in practice, and to outline specific research needs in these areas. Data sources consisted of a PubMed search, 2007 Cochrane Data Base Systematic review, 2008 Ottawa panel evidence-based clinical practice guidelines, as well as additional references found from the initial search. Study selection included randomized clinical trials that compared an aerobic-only exercise intervention (land or pool based) with an untreated control, a non-exercise intervention or other exercise programs in patients responding to the 1990 American College of Rheumatology criteria for FM. The following outcome data were obtained: pain, tender points, perceived improvement in FM symptoms such as the Fibromyalgia Impact Questionnaire total score (FIQ), physical function, depression (e.g., Beck Depression Inventory, FIQ subscale for depression), fatigue and sleep were extracted from 19 clinical trials that considered the effects of aerobic-only exercise in FM patients. Data synthesis shows that there is moderate evidence of important benefit of aerobic-only exercise in FM on physical function and possibly on tender points and pain. It appears to be sufficient evidence to support the practice of AE as a part of the multidisciplinary management of FM. However, future studies must be more adequately sized, homogeneously assessed, and monitored for adherence, to draw definitive conclusions. ________________________________ From: Ralph Giarnella <ragiarn@...> " Supertraining " <Supertraining > Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 7:29 AM Subject: Re: fibromyalgia & working out  A quick search on Google Scholar found the following abstracts on exercise and fibromyalgia Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA ________________________________ From: dmdtyl <dmdtyl@...> Supertraining Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 3:29 PM Subject: fibromyalgia & working out  I. Was wondering how many people in this group have fibromyalgia. I have been on disability since I was 45 because of this disease.I am now 58. Working out really helps me out. I start my day with pilates then move on to my favorite which is weight lifting. I know it is hard to make yourself workout when you dont feel good which is how I feel if I dont work. I believe if you just push yourself to do some light stretchging exercise every day you will start to feel better soon. It allows the body to release natural pain killers to kick in & all the other good stuff our body has, just waiting for us to use it. Make this a normal part of your day & in a short amount of time you should be feeling better & not so depressed feeling. I know for myself I can tell a huge difference if I skip to many workouts. I'll usually end up spending the day in bed. I am on a lot of meds for pain & various other problems i have as well. The meds can only do so much on their own the rest is up to me . Sure i can take larger amounts & stronger meds but then the meds would have controll of my life that is something i like to have as much control over as i can. So go buy you some pilates dvd a floor mat & start stretching. ++Please ensure you sign all posts with your full name, city and country of residence++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I've worked with M.E. & fibromyalgia clients. I first got interested when my partner developed the disease. There are some commonalities between the conditions. Many people with these conditions have problems doing weights overhead (or even having arms overhead for very long without discomfort). I've found no cookie-cutter style set of exercises for people with the condition, you have to play about. I've found sometimes you've had to develop unusual exercises selections that work for the client, using a stability ball for support of the back or to lean on has worked for some, more severe cases have problems doing full body movements at all as they are simply too taxing, so isolation movements have to be used. I have found pilates works pretty well for many people, so you made a good find stumbling across that. I have no idea about the science behind the choices that work, I've discovered stuff pretty much by hit & miss, as I said it does vary a lot between people, so you may be able to do one thing, while someone else cannot. You do also have to be on the ball if they develop 'mind fog' during training as you can have injuries as they lose track of what they are doing during a set, so being especially vigilant pays off. I'm certainly no expert, but starting off with a new client I'd say experiment & accept there will be some clients & times with all clients that you cannot do a balanced workout, so just do what you can & listen to the client as in this case they really do know best about when they need to stop (if you get someone who really pushes themselves then your job is obviously to rein them in as people with these conditions suffer when they go balls to the wall). I think that's about all I can offer off of the top of my head. Good luck with the condition, it can improve quite a bit over time if you exercise within your limits, eat anti-inflammatory food, indulge in some massage & rest when you need to. All the best, Pete , Brighton, UK On 3 December 2011 15:47, Diane Barker <barker.diane@...> wrote: > ** > > > Have you tried Feldenkrais? > Diane Barker > Montreal > Canada > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Ralph Giarnella <ragiarn@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > A quick search on Google Scholar found the following abstracts on > exercise > > and fibromyalgia > > > > Ralph Giarnella MD > > Southington Ct. USA > > > > ________________________________ > > From: dmdtyl <dmdtyl@...> > > Supertraining > > Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 3:29 PM > > Subject: fibromyalgia & working out > > > > > > > > I. Was wondering how many people in this group have fibromyalgia. I have > > been on disability since I was 45 because of this disease.I am now 58. > > Working out really helps me out. I start my day with pilates then move on > > to my favorite which is weight lifting. I know it is hard to make > yourself > > workout when you dont feel good which is how I feel if I dont work. I > > believe if you just push yourself to do some light stretchging exercise > > every day you will start to feel better soon. It allows the body to > release > > natural pain killers to kick in & all the other good stuff > > our body has, just waiting for us to use it. Make this a normal part of > > your day & in a short amount of time you should be feeling better & not > so > > depressed feeling. I know for myself I can tell a huge difference if I > skip > > to many workouts. I'll usually end up spending the day in bed. I am on a > > lot of meds for pain & various other problems i have as well. The meds > can > > only do so much on their own the rest is up to me . Sure i can take > larger > > amounts & stronger meds but then the meds would have controll of my life > > that is something i like to have as much control over as i can. So go buy > > you some pilates dvd a floor mat & start stretching. > > > > ++Please ensure you sign all posts with your full name, city and country > > of residence++ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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