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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded & v=B-nlhZ0RR4A

Interesting initial prestretch that results in a " break off " from the floor.

Wonder how many lifters / coaches will try to imitate?

Carruthers

Wakefield, UK

Casler writes:

Yes, it is VERY impressive and the pre-lift he uses I often employ myself

when I do Heavy BB Rows. I find that if you do a couple inch 'pre-lift' in

the very lowest position you get the feel of the weight prior to the actual

lift and it gives you confidence to employ greater effort.

Impressive performance indeed.

Regards,

Casler

TRI-VECTOR 3-D Training Systems

Century City, CA

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Hi ,

I see your 214kg Snatch and I raise you an extra 2kg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD3WP6xQW4Y

Krastev's real World Record. Sorry, I had to point this out:)

 

Young, London, UK

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Sent: Sunday, 13 November 2011, 19:51

Subject: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded & v=B-nlhZ0RR4A

Interesting initial prestretch that results in a " break off " from the floor.

Wonder how many lifters / coaches will try to imitate?

Carruthers

Wakefield, UK

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Wow.

That is interesting that he briefly separates the bar from the platform and then

sets it back down for a few seconds before the lift. Seems like he wouldn't get

a stretch load from doing that (e.g. like the dive start) but it could be a good

potentiation technique?

A couple other unusual things: the outer plate is loaded outside of the collar;

and I'm also wondering what material the platform is made of.

 

Regards,

Plisk

Excelsior Sports

Buffalo NY

Prepare To Be A Champion!

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http://www.youtube. com/watch? feature=player_ embedded & v=B-nlhZ0RR4A

Interesting initial prestretch that results in a " break off " from the floor.

Wonder how many lifters / coaches will try to imitate?

Carruthers

Wakefield, UK

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Wow.

That is interesting that he briefly separates the bar from the platform and then

sets it back down for a few seconds before the lift. Seems like he wouldn't get

a stretch load from doing that (e.g. like the dive start) but it could be a good

potentiation technique?

A couple other unusual things: the outer plate is loaded outside of the collar;

and I'm also wondering what material the platform is made of.

 

Regards,

Plisk

Excelsior Sports

Buffalo NY

Prepare To Be A Champion!

________________________________

http://www.youtube. com/watch? feature=player_ embedded & v=B-nlhZ0RR4A

Interesting initial prestretch that results in a " break off " from the floor.

Wonder how many lifters / coaches will try to imitate?

Carruthers

Wakefield, UK

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As long as it does not pass the level of the knees.

Brown

NY, NY

On 11/13/2011 3:15 PM, deadliftdiva@... wrote:

>

> Wow - is it legal to break the weights from the floor before the

> attempt like that?

>

> In PL he would have already had his DL attempt...when that bar popped

> up and down like that.

>

> I mean - he's engaging all his muscles in that little prepop of the bar?

>

> Just wondering here -

>

> The Phantom

> aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> Denver, Colorado, USA

>

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As long as it does not pass the level of the knees.

Brown

NY, NY

On 11/13/2011 3:15 PM, deadliftdiva@... wrote:

>

> Wow - is it legal to break the weights from the floor before the

> attempt like that?

>

> In PL he would have already had his DL attempt...when that bar popped

> up and down like that.

>

> I mean - he's engaging all his muscles in that little prepop of the bar?

>

> Just wondering here -

>

> The Phantom

> aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> Denver, Colorado, USA

>

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Ah, thank you!

This then begs the question why no one has done this slight tension pop before -

has anyone at the national or world level got a similar style?

There also was some discussion sometime ago regarding not having one's butt

" down " as much to tension the lift better for some builds - could this be an

extension of that thinking and technique?

The Phantom

aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

Denver, Colorado, USA

Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

As long as it does not pass the level of the knees.

Brown

NY, NY

On 11/13/2011 3:15 PM, deadliftdiva@... wrote:

>

> Wow - is it legal to break the weights from the floor before the

> attempt like that?

>

> In PL he would have already had his DL attempt...when that bar popped

> up and down like that.

>

> I mean - he's engaging all his muscles in that little prepop of the bar?

>

> Just wondering here -

>

> The Phantom

> aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> Denver, Colorado, USA

>

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Ah, thank you!

This then begs the question why no one has done this slight tension pop before -

has anyone at the national or world level got a similar style?

There also was some discussion sometime ago regarding not having one's butt

" down " as much to tension the lift better for some builds - could this be an

extension of that thinking and technique?

The Phantom

aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

Denver, Colorado, USA

Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

As long as it does not pass the level of the knees.

Brown

NY, NY

On 11/13/2011 3:15 PM, deadliftdiva@... wrote:

>

> Wow - is it legal to break the weights from the floor before the

> attempt like that?

>

> In PL he would have already had his DL attempt...when that bar popped

> up and down like that.

>

> I mean - he's engaging all his muscles in that little prepop of the bar?

>

> Just wondering here -

>

> The Phantom

> aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> Denver, Colorado, USA

>

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While I am just speculating, I really think in his case it is just a

habit, like a friend of mine who shuffles his feet before placing them,

but only on the clean, not the snatch.

And hip position at the initiation of the first pull depends greatly on

the mechanics of the individual, but as a general rule, the higher your

hips the more you not only lose power from your legs, but have to work

harder to pull the bar into your and risk the bar arcing outward on your

second pull.

Brown,

NY, NY

On 11/14/2011 12:30 PM, deadliftdiva@... wrote:

>

> Ah, thank you!

>

> This then begs the question why no one has done this slight tension

> pop before - has anyone at the national or world level got a similar

> style?

>

> There also was some discussion sometime ago regarding not having one's

> butt " down " as much to tension the lift better for some builds - could

> this be an extension of that thinking and technique?

>

> The Phantom

> aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> Denver, Colorado, USA

>

> Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

>

> As long as it does not pass the level of the knees.

>

> Brown

> NY, NY

>

> On 11/13/2011 3:15 PM, deadliftdiva@...

> <mailto:deadliftdiva%40comcast.net> wrote:

> >

> > Wow - is it legal to break the weights from the floor before the

> > attempt like that?

> >

> > In PL he would have already had his DL attempt...when that bar popped

> > up and down like that.

> >

> > I mean - he's engaging all his muscles in that little prepop of the

> bar?

> >

> > Just wondering here -

> >

> > The Phantom

> > aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> > Denver, Colorado, USA

> >

>

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While I am just speculating, I really think in his case it is just a

habit, like a friend of mine who shuffles his feet before placing them,

but only on the clean, not the snatch.

And hip position at the initiation of the first pull depends greatly on

the mechanics of the individual, but as a general rule, the higher your

hips the more you not only lose power from your legs, but have to work

harder to pull the bar into your and risk the bar arcing outward on your

second pull.

Brown,

NY, NY

On 11/14/2011 12:30 PM, deadliftdiva@... wrote:

>

> Ah, thank you!

>

> This then begs the question why no one has done this slight tension

> pop before - has anyone at the national or world level got a similar

> style?

>

> There also was some discussion sometime ago regarding not having one's

> butt " down " as much to tension the lift better for some builds - could

> this be an extension of that thinking and technique?

>

> The Phantom

> aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> Denver, Colorado, USA

>

> Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

>

> As long as it does not pass the level of the knees.

>

> Brown

> NY, NY

>

> On 11/13/2011 3:15 PM, deadliftdiva@...

> <mailto:deadliftdiva%40comcast.net> wrote:

> >

> > Wow - is it legal to break the weights from the floor before the

> > attempt like that?

> >

> > In PL he would have already had his DL attempt...when that bar popped

> > up and down like that.

> >

> > I mean - he's engaging all his muscles in that little prepop of the

> bar?

> >

> > Just wondering here -

> >

> > The Phantom

> > aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> > Denver, Colorado, USA

> >

>

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>

> While I am just speculating, I really think in his case it is just a

> habit, like a friend of mine who shuffles his feet before placing them,

> but only on the clean, not the snatch.

>

****

Seemed to be a fairly new conscious effort for this competition...he performed

all 3 attempts this way. Previous comp vids (although editing may have cut the

intial " push " ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymhIZwVuzz0 & feature=related

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Carruthers

Wakefield, UK

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>

> While I am just speculating, I really think in his case it is just a

> habit, like a friend of mine who shuffles his feet before placing them,

> but only on the clean, not the snatch.

>

****

Seemed to be a fairly new conscious effort for this competition...he performed

all 3 attempts this way. Previous comp vids (although editing may have cut the

intial " push " ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymhIZwVuzz0 & feature=related

============

Carruthers

Wakefield, UK

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While actually popping the bar is something I haven't seen it is common to

create tension in the pull, drop down and then pull. Similar to your dive in

activating a a stretch reflex.

Hobman

Saskatoon, Canada

On 11/14/11 11:30 AM, deadliftdiva@... wrote:

> Ah, thank you!

>

>

> This then begs the question why no one has done this slight tension pop before

- has anyone at the national or world level got a similar style?

>

>

> There also was some discussion sometime ago regarding not having one's butt

" down " as much to tension the lift better for some builds - could this be an

extension of that thinking and technique?

>

>

> The Phantom

> aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> Denver, Colorado, USA

>

> Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

>

>

>

>

>

>

> As long as it does not pass the level of the knees.

>

> Brown

> NY, NY

>

> On 11/13/2011 3:15 PM, deadliftdiva@... wrote:

> >

> > Wow - is it legal to break the weights from the floor before the

> > attempt like that?

> >

> > In PL he would have already had his DL attempt...when that bar popped

> > up and down like that.

> >

> > I mean - he's engaging all his muscles in that little prepop of the bar?

> >

> > Just wondering here -

> >

> > The Phantom

> > aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> > Denver, Colorado, USA

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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While actually popping the bar is something I haven't seen it is common to

create tension in the pull, drop down and then pull. Similar to your dive in

activating a a stretch reflex.

Hobman

Saskatoon, Canada

On 11/14/11 11:30 AM, deadliftdiva@... wrote:

> Ah, thank you!

>

>

> This then begs the question why no one has done this slight tension pop before

- has anyone at the national or world level got a similar style?

>

>

> There also was some discussion sometime ago regarding not having one's butt

" down " as much to tension the lift better for some builds - could this be an

extension of that thinking and technique?

>

>

> The Phantom

> aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> Denver, Colorado, USA

>

> Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

>

>

>

>

>

>

> As long as it does not pass the level of the knees.

>

> Brown

> NY, NY

>

> On 11/13/2011 3:15 PM, deadliftdiva@... wrote:

> >

> > Wow - is it legal to break the weights from the floor before the

> > attempt like that?

> >

> > In PL he would have already had his DL attempt...when that bar popped

> > up and down like that.

> >

> > I mean - he's engaging all his muscles in that little prepop of the bar?

> >

> > Just wondering here -

> >

> > The Phantom

> > aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> > Denver, Colorado, USA

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Re. The plates outside the collars. In weightlifting now since the new " one

kilo rule " went into effect. Inside the collars is loaded to a weight ending 0

or 5 (like 210, 215, 220). Then outside you would have extra plates (a pair of

..5, 1, 1.5, 2kg plates) which are color coded and would then make the final

weight 211, 212, 213, 214, as needed.

Buckley

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 14, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Plisk <ssp67047@...> wrote:

> Wow.

>

> That is interesting that he briefly separates the bar from the platform and

then sets it back down for a few seconds before the lift. Seems like he wouldn't

get a stretch load from doing that (e.g. like the dive start) but it could be a

good potentiation technique?

>

> A couple other unusual things: the outer plate is loaded outside of the

collar; and I'm also wondering what material the platform is made of.

>

> Regards,

>

> Plisk

> Excelsior Sports

> Buffalo NY

> Prepare To Be A Champion!

>

> ________________________________

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? feature=player_ embedded & v=B-nlhZ0RR4A

>

> Interesting initial prestretch that results in a " break off " from the floor.

Wonder how many lifters / coaches will try to imitate?

>

> Carruthers

> Wakefield, UK

>

>

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Re. The plates outside the collars. In weightlifting now since the new " one

kilo rule " went into effect. Inside the collars is loaded to a weight ending 0

or 5 (like 210, 215, 220). Then outside you would have extra plates (a pair of

..5, 1, 1.5, 2kg plates) which are color coded and would then make the final

weight 211, 212, 213, 214, as needed.

Buckley

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 14, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Plisk <ssp67047@...> wrote:

> Wow.

>

> That is interesting that he briefly separates the bar from the platform and

then sets it back down for a few seconds before the lift. Seems like he wouldn't

get a stretch load from doing that (e.g. like the dive start) but it could be a

good potentiation technique?

>

> A couple other unusual things: the outer plate is loaded outside of the

collar; and I'm also wondering what material the platform is made of.

>

> Regards,

>

> Plisk

> Excelsior Sports

> Buffalo NY

> Prepare To Be A Champion!

>

> ________________________________

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? feature=player_ embedded & v=B-nlhZ0RR4A

>

> Interesting initial prestretch that results in a " break off " from the floor.

Wonder how many lifters / coaches will try to imitate?

>

> Carruthers

> Wakefield, UK

>

>

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How do they keep the outside weights on the bar? Wouldn't they fall off in

some situations? I don't know much about weightlifting.

Edwin Freeman, Jr.

San Francisco, USA

Re: Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

Re. The plates outside the collars. In weightlifting now since the new " one

kilo rule " went into effect. Inside the collars is loaded to a weight ending 0

or 5 (like 210, 215, 220). Then outside you would have extra plates (a pair of

..5, 1, 1.5, 2kg plates) which are color coded and would then make the final

weight 211, 212, 213, 214, as needed.

Buckley

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 14, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Plisk <ssp67047@...> wrote:

> Wow.

>

> That is interesting that he briefly separates the bar from the platform and

then sets it back down for a few seconds before the lift. Seems like he wouldn't

get a stretch load from doing that (e.g. like the dive start) but it could be a

good potentiation technique?

>

> A couple other unusual things: the outer plate is loaded outside of the

collar; and I'm also wondering what material the platform is made of.

>

> Regards,

>

> Plisk

> Excelsior Sports

> Buffalo NY

> Prepare To Be A Champion!

>

> ________________________________

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? feature=player_ embedded & v=B-nlhZ0RR4A

>

> Interesting initial prestretch that results in a " break off " from the floor.

Wonder how many lifters / coaches will try to imitate?

>

> Carruthers

> Wakefield, UK

>

>

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The plates are so small & light I have never heard of them falling off unless

the collars are loose and the larger plates push them off. Also Dynamic Fitness

sells some great IWF certified collars that have magnets on the outside which

keeps the plates snug. These collars are made by DH a Chinese Company, this is

the only company I know of that makes collars with this feature. The bars &

collars used in this meet were Eleiko.

Buckley

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:10 AM, efreem3407@... wrote:

>

> How do they keep the outside weights on the bar? Wouldn't they fall off in

some situations? I don't know much about weightlifting.

>

> Edwin Freeman, Jr.

> San Francisco, USA

>

> Re: Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

>

> Re. The plates outside the collars. In weightlifting now since the new " one

> kilo rule " went into effect. Inside the collars is loaded to a weight ending 0

> or 5 (like 210, 215, 220). Then outside you would have extra plates (a pair of

> .5, 1, 1.5, 2kg plates) which are color coded and would then make the final

> weight 211, 212, 213, 214, as needed.

>

> Buckley

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Nov 14, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Plisk <ssp67047@...> wrote:

>

> > Wow.

> >

> > That is interesting that he briefly separates the bar from the platform and

> then sets it back down for a few seconds before the lift. Seems like he

wouldn't

> get a stretch load from doing that (e.g. like the dive start) but it could be

a

> good potentiation technique?

> >

> > A couple other unusual things: the outer plate is loaded outside of the

> collar; and I'm also wondering what material the platform is made of.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Plisk

> > Excelsior Sports

> > Buffalo NY

> > Prepare To Be A Champion!

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > http://www.youtube. com/watch? feature=player_ embedded & v=B-nlhZ0RR4A

> >

> > Interesting initial prestretch that results in a " break off " from the floor.

> Wonder how many lifters / coaches will try to imitate?

> >

> > Carruthers

> > Wakefield, UK

> >

> >

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I like the idea of magnets. Eleiko makes great bars and plates. I'm guessing

the plates are attached to the collars somehow so they don't fall off. I've

seen lifters lift in the clean and jerk or the snatch unevenly; that is the bar

is high on one side just a slight bit. If the outside plates were not attached

securely they would fall off.

I've seen powerlifters in the gym bench press without collars and tip the bar

just a little bit higher on one side and the plates start falling off.

Edwin Freeman, Jr.

San Francisco, USA

Re: Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

>

> Re. The plates outside the collars. In weightlifting now since the new " one

> kilo rule " went into effect. Inside the collars is loaded to a weight ending 0

> or 5 (like 210, 215, 220). Then outside you would have extra plates (a pair of

> .5, 1, 1.5, 2kg plates) which are color coded and would then make the final

> weight 211, 212, 213, 214, as needed.

>

> Buckley

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Nov 14, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Plisk <ssp67047@...> wrote:

>

> > Wow.

> >

> > That is interesting that he briefly separates the bar from the platform and

> then sets it back down for a few seconds before the lift. Seems like he

wouldn't

> get a stretch load from doing that (e.g. like the dive start) but it could be

a

> good potentiation technique?

> >

> > A couple other unusual things: the outer plate is loaded outside of the

> collar; and I'm also wondering what material the platform is made of.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Plisk

> > Excelsior Sports

> > Buffalo NY

> > Prepare To Be A Champion!

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > http://www.youtube. com/watch? feature=player_ embedded & v=B-nlhZ0RR4A

> >

> > Interesting initial prestretch that results in a " break off " from the floor.

> Wonder how many lifters / coaches will try to imitate?

> >

> > Carruthers

> > Wakefield, UK

> >

> >

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Just to clear up the confusion on the plates. The plates loaded on the

outside are know as friction plates. They come in 2kg (blue), 1.5kg

(yellow), 1kg (green) and 0.5kg (white); following the same colour code as

the plates 10 times their load.

They have a flexible rubber lip inside the hole which grips the bar and so

they do not slide without a little force. They are always loaded outside

the collars and so are not subject to large lateral forces from the big

plates. Red 2.5kg and white 5kg plates are not friction plates and so load

inside the collars along with all the large diameter plates.

These plates are also very useful for making small set to set adjustments

during training without having to take collars on and off. They are made by

Eleiko.

Unbelievable lift by the way!

Rob

London, UK

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:19 PM, <efreem3407@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

>

> I like the idea of magnets. Eleiko makes great bars and plates. I'm

> guessing the plates are attached to the collars somehow so they don't fall

> off. I've seen lifters lift in the clean and jerk or the snatch unevenly;

> that is the bar is high on one side just a slight bit. If the outside

> plates were not attached securely they would fall off.

>

> I've seen powerlifters in the gym bench press without collars and tip the

> bar just a little bit higher on one side and the plates start falling off.

>

> Edwin Freeman, Jr.

> San Francisco, USA

>

> Re: Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

> >

> > Re. The plates outside the collars. In weightlifting now since the new

> " one

> > kilo rule " went into effect. Inside the collars is loaded to a weight

> ending 0

>

> > or 5 (like 210, 215, 220). Then outside you would have extra plates (a

> pair of

>

> > .5, 1, 1.5, 2kg plates) which are color coded and would then make the

> final

> > weight 211, 212, 213, 214, as needed.

> >

> > Buckley

> >

> > Sent from my iPad

> >

> > On Nov 14, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Plisk <ssp67047@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Wow.

> > >

> > > That is interesting that he briefly separates the bar from the

> platform and

> > then sets it back down for a few seconds before the lift. Seems like he

> wouldn't

> > get a stretch load from doing that (e.g. like the dive start) but it

> could be

> a

> > good potentiation technique?

> > >

> > > A couple other unusual things: the outer plate is loaded outside of

> the

> > collar; and I'm also wondering what material the platform is made of.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Plisk

> > > Excelsior Sports

> > > Buffalo NY

> > > Prepare To Be A Champion!

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > >

> > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? feature=player_ embedded & v=B-nlhZ0RR4A

> > >

> > > Interesting initial prestretch that results in a " break off " from the

> floor.

>

> > Wonder how many lifters / coaches will try to imitate?

> > >

> > > Carruthers

> > > Wakefield, UK

> > >

> > >

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Right on I might buy me a few of these " fiction plates "

Edwin Freeman, Jr.

San Francisco, USA

Re: Re: New World Record Snatch - 214kg

>

> The plates are so small & light I have never heard of them falling off

> unless

> the collars are loose and the larger plates push them off. Also Dynamic

> Fitness

> sells some great IWF certified collars that have magnets on the outside

> which

> keeps the plates snug. These collars are made by DH a Chinese Company,

> this is

> the only company I know of that makes collars with this feature. The bars

> &

> collars used in this meet were Eleiko.

>

> Buckley

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:10 AM, efreem3407@... wrote:

>

> >

> > How do they keep the outside weights on the bar? Wouldn't they fall off

> in

> some situations? I don't know much about weightlifting.

> >

> > Edwin Freeman, Jr.

> > San Francisco, USA

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> the mechanics of the individual, but as a general rule, the higher your

> hips the more you not only lose power from your legs, but have to work

> harder to pull the bar into your and risk the bar arcing outward on your

> second pull.

>

> Brown,

> NY, NY

Yeah, how high your hips initially, and also the degree that /angle at which

your hips are flexed at the start of the 2nd pull depends on length of the

various limbs, and also whether the lifter is more leg dominant or more back

dominant.

Roman's book, the Snatch and the Clean and Jerk has the kinematics of

various world champions / world record holders of the past, which all vary to a

certain extent.

Roland Loh,

Swansea, UK.

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Roland Loh wrote:

Roman's book, the Snatch and the Clean and Jerk has the kinematics of

various world champions / world record holders of the past, which all vary to a

certain extent.

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Roland,

That book is a fantastic resource. I found it invaluable when I was a young

coach trying to model what the best lifters do and teach it to my athletes.

I'll bet it's tough to find - although Bud Charniga's Sportivny Press has always

been one place to get classic translations like this.

Regards,

Plisk

Excelsior Sports

Buffalo NY

Prepare To Be A Champion!

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> Roman's book, the Snatch and the Clean and Jerk has the kinematics of

various world champions / world record holders of the past, which all vary to a

certain extent.

> ----------

>

> Roland,

>

>

> That book is a fantastic resource. I found it invaluable when I was a young

coach trying to model what the best lifters do and teach it to my athletes.

>

> I'll bet it's tough to find - although Bud Charniga's Sportivny Press has

always been one place to get classic translations like this.

>

> Regards,

>

> Plisk

> Excelsior Sports

> Buffalo NY

> Prepare To Be A Champion!

>

>

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