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Thank youCC: lowerbp2@...To: hyperaldosteronism From: lowerbp2@...Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:13:15 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Post adrenolectomy meds [1 Attachment]There is a beautiful older book called Perspiration by Kuno. I have some discussion of sweating and survival in my papers on survival during slavery. I can't recall if my slavery papers are in our files?I am a bit of a sweat expert as well. Studied it in Dr. Conn's lab to see if sweat Na/K could be used to Dx PA. Good for advanced cases but have to go in sweat box. Aldo also affects stool Na and K and pH that has been used for Dx but not very clean in separating. On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:37 PM, lyndarumph wrote: Saw the website on BP s and sweat. Very good. I do most of those anyway. I actually had lost 37lbs last year and was at the gym everyday exercising and eating only fish and vegetables and that was before the adrenolectomy and BP was in the 180s/110. BP was really good after adrenolectomy 4 weeks ago. Don't know what's going on --- In hyperaldosteronism , " " <jclark24p@...> wrote: > > got to you before I could but then he should, he's the Pro! I was working on this exact subject to provide some insight to NIH and had just found the attached. (I supplied them a copy and printed one for my refridgerator, it often needs reminding!) My doctor was real happy when she " Finally got my BP under control at 110/61 " . Four nurses and I disgreed at 2:15 am that morning! (That's another story!) > > , in case you missed it, make sure you note that quote in the upper right: " Sweat is the best cardiovasculr agent known to man " -Stanford Cardiologist (I addes & !) > > One question - I start to sweat just reading it, is that what you mean? ;>) > > Suitable for framing, here it is: > > http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/medicine/blood-pressure.14.pdf > > --- In hyperaldosteronism , Bingham <jlkbbk2003@> wrote: > > > > > > I am lost as to what you're reaching for. I realize that there are many causes of HTN but wasn't this the purpose for the adrenalectomy?� And if 120/80 what is it your reaching for? I know they keep lowering the bar on " ideal " but there is also a norm for each individual too and 110/70 isn't optimal for everybody just like some pass out at a 60 blood sugar and some do just fine. Maybe 120/80 post surgery is perfect for your age and body type and as your body recovers. > > � > > My question would be why, post surgery, which surgery is supposed to fix the problem, would you need to be on all those meds now? Unless something is amiss or the adrenalectomy in your mind was to fix a different problem (a cortisol and weight issue?). > > � > > Diet and exercise, if you've now controlled for hyperaldosteronism by taking out the adrenal (and they work great with PA too), work wonders on blood pressure. � > > � > > > > --- On Thu, 4/19/12, lyndarumph <lyndarumph@> wrote: > > > > > > From: lyndarumph <lyndarumph@> > > Subject: Post adrenolectomy meds > > To: hyperaldosteronism > > Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > If BBCs and CCBs don't work for BP after adrenolectomy what does. Metoprolol didn't work anyway. But because BP is better 120s/80s diastolic runs a little high but it use to be 180s/110. Was taking 360 cardizem 320 divan 40 lisinopril 325 aspirin,minoxidil and HCL 12.5. All once a day plus 50 of toprol. No of them got pressure down.. How can they tell if toprol is working or adrenal gland doing it? > > >

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How are we not meeting your needs?The instructions on how to get off are on the site someplace or someone will tell you how. I don't recall.If too many emails you can get a daily or weekly digest or go to the site to read them all when you want. You can also search all by topic etc back over our 10 years.CE Grim MDOn Apr 26, 2012, at 10:48 AM, anke pfitzer wrote: Thank youCC: lowerbp2@...To: hyperaldosteronism From: lowerbp2@...Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:13:15 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Post adrenolectomy meds [1 Attachment]There is a beautiful older book called Perspiration by Kuno. I have some discussion of sweating and survival in my papers on survival during slavery. I can't recall if my slavery papers are in our files?I am a bit of a sweat expert as well. Studied it in Dr. Conn's lab to see if sweat Na/K could be used to Dx PA. Good for advanced cases but have to go in sweat box. Aldo also affects stool Na and K and pH that has been used for Dx but not very clean in separating. On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:37 PM, lyndarumph wrote: Saw the website on BP s and sweat. Very good. I do most of those anyway. I actually had lost 37lbs last year and was at the gym everyday exercising and eating only fish and vegetables and that was before the adrenolectomy and BP was in the 180s/110. BP was really good after adrenolectomy 4 weeks ago. Don't know what's going on > > > > > > From: lyndarumph <lyndarumph@> > > Subject: Post adrenolectomy meds > > hyperaldosteronism > > Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > If BBCs and CCBs don't work for BP after adrenolectomy what does. Metoprolol didn't work anyway. But because BP is better 120s/80s diastolic runs a little high but it use to be 180s/110. Was taking 360 cardizem 320 divan 40 lisinopril 325 aspirin,minoxidil and HCL 12.5. All once a day plus 50 of toprol. No of them got pressure down.. How can they tell if toprol is working or adrenal gland doing it? > > >

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There are too many emails but I would be happy with a weekly digest as I have still an interest in Conn Syndrome. how does it work? Thank You. CC: lowerbp2@...To: hyperaldosteronism From: lowerbp2@...Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:31:10 -0500Subject: Re: Please cancel my participation to this Group How are we not meeting your needs?The instructions on how to get off are on the site someplace or someone will tell you how. I don't recall.If too many emails you can get a daily or weekly digest or go to the site to read them all when you want. You can also search all by topic etc back over our 10 years.CE Grim MDOn Apr 26, 2012, at 10:48 AM, anke pfitzer wrote: Thank youCC: lowerbp2@...To: hyperaldosteronism From: lowerbp2@...Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:13:15 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Post adrenolectomy meds [1 Attachment]There is a beautiful older book called Perspiration by Kuno. I have some discussion of sweating and survival in my papers on survival during slavery. I can't recall if my slavery papers are in our files?I am a bit of a sweat expert as well. Studied it in Dr. Conn's lab to see if sweat Na/K could be used to Dx PA. Good for advanced cases but have to go in sweat box. Aldo also affects stool Na and K and pH that has been used for Dx but not very clean in separating. On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:37 PM, lyndarumph wrote: Saw the website on BP s and sweat. Very good. I do most of those anyway. I actually had lost 37lbs last year and was at the gym everyday exercising and eating only fish and vegetables and that was before the adrenolectomy and BP was in the 180s/110. BP was really good after adrenolectomy 4 weeks ago. Don't know what's going on > > > > > > From: lyndarumph <lyndarumph@> > > Subject: Post adrenolectomy meds > > hyperaldosteronism > > Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > If BBCs and CCBs don't work for BP after adrenolectomy what does. Metoprolol didn't work anyway. But because BP is better 120s/80s diastolic runs a little high but it use to be 180s/110. Was taking 360 cardizem 320 divan 40 lisinopril 325 aspirin,minoxidil and HCL 12.5. All once a day plus 50 of toprol. No of them got pressure down.. How can they tell if toprol is working or adrenal gland doing it? > > >

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Anke you just have to do it yourself. If you go to the group in rather

than just reading the stuff that comes to your e:mail inbox, then go to 'Edit

Membership' towards the top of the screen and you can choose how to receive

updates. Either you get an e:mail for every message posted which would overwhelm

anybody or group them (which I have, about two e:mails a day) or no e:mails and

you just visit the group in if you want to know what's going on. There is

a fourth option but I can't remember what it is.

HTH,

Hester

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> > > If BBCs and CCBs don't work for BP after adrenolectomy what does.

Metoprolol didn't work anyway. But because BP is better 120s/80s diastolic runs

a little high but it use to be 180s/110. Was taking 360 cardizem 320 divan 40

lisinopril 325 aspirin,minoxidil and HCL 12.5. All once a day plus 50 of toprol.

No of them got pressure down.. How can they tell if toprol is working or adrenal

gland doing it?

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Metoprolol didn't work anyway. But because BP is better 120s/80s diastolic runs

a little high but it use to be 180s/110. Was taking 360 cardizem 320 divan 40

lisinopril 325 aspirin,minoxidil and HCL 12.5. All once a day plus 50 of toprol.

No of them got pressure down.. How can they tell if toprol is working or adrenal

gland doing it?

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