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I read " Solving the relationship puzzle " (the main book by Gutstien)

about 4 months into beginning my son's ABA program (when he was 3 1/2 years)

as part of my research into childhood development. I was impressed

with his breakdown of beginning stages of a child's emotional development

though I wasn't impressed with the lack of research support his specific

methods. So. .. . I incorporated aspects of RDI into my hours of working

with my son at home in an ABA format.

For example, Gutstien observed that children make eye

contact more easily when they are up higher than you, like on a table

or a bunk bed. I used this by putting my son on the top bunk and

playing catch with him, heavily reinforcing eye contact and continued play.

I found that he DID make better eye contact when up high. I also used

Gutstien's understanding of joint attention as a background to develop

his home programs for Natural Environment Teaching.

In California school RDI is frequently used with ABA.

I strongly urge parents to read any and all books on normal childhood

development--especially if using an ABA program. It's difficult

to find an ABA therapist/BCBA who incorporate many developmental appropriate

goals into the programing. (ex. pouring, telling stories etc.)

Most local programming tends to be overly academic. Being aware of normal

childhood development helps you to remember that, oh, he may be acting

up because he's getting his three year molars, or (for older kids)

losing teeth, etc.

Hope this helps.

RDI

I am new to the group and have a three year old with autism.

I would appreciate information regarding RDI. Has anyone in the

group tried RDI or is currently in the program? Does anyone combine

RDI with ABA or VB?

Thanks,

Margaret

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I read " Solving the relationship puzzle " (the main book by Gutstien)

about 4 months into beginning my son's ABA program (when he was 3 1/2 years)

as part of my research into childhood development. I was impressed

with his breakdown of beginning stages of a child's emotional development

though I wasn't impressed with the lack of research support his specific

methods. So. .. . I incorporated aspects of RDI into my hours of working

with my son at home in an ABA format.

For example, Gutstien observed that children make eye

contact more easily when they are up higher than you, like on a table

or a bunk bed. I used this by putting my son on the top bunk and

playing catch with him, heavily reinforcing eye contact and continued play.

I found that he DID make better eye contact when up high. I also used

Gutstien's understanding of joint attention as a background to develop

his home programs for Natural Environment Teaching.

In California school RDI is frequently used with ABA.

I strongly urge parents to read any and all books on normal childhood

development--especially if using an ABA program. It's difficult

to find an ABA therapist/BCBA who incorporate many developmental appropriate

goals into the programing. (ex. pouring, telling stories etc.)

Most local programming tends to be overly academic. Being aware of normal

childhood development helps you to remember that, oh, he may be acting

up because he's getting his three year molars, or (for older kids)

losing teeth, etc.

Hope this helps.

RDI

I am new to the group and have a three year old with autism.

I would appreciate information regarding RDI. Has anyone in the

group tried RDI or is currently in the program? Does anyone combine

RDI with ABA or VB?

Thanks,

Margaret

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I'm glad you mentioned the book because I've had it for a couple of years and

it's still sitting on my shelf waiting to be read. What you said about eye

contact is very interesting. I'm going to go pull it off the shelf now!

a

RDI

I am new to the group and have a three year old with autism.

I would appreciate information regarding RDI. Has anyone in the

group tried RDI or is currently in the program? Does anyone combine

RDI with ABA or VB?

Thanks,

Margaret

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Hi,

I wanted to direct you to a good resource about RDI- Lee. She is

a very experienced mother, therapist, consultant,....that has recently

completed certification in RDI.

She writes regular columns about her experience with ABA (for about 9 years

now?), and you can read these columns at http://www.AutismTreatment.info

(this is a website she and I created together).

She also has a website at http://www.FirstYearsInterventions.com that

describes alittle more about RDI.

Thanks,

J. P. Reirdon

Webmaster

http://www.AutismTreatment.info/

You CAN treat Autism!!

Get treatment tips for children with Autism, PDD and Aperger's Syndrome from

parents who have successfully helped their children.

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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 01:20:35 -0000

From: " margaret_hauke " <margaret_hauke@...>

Subject: RDI

I am new to the group and have a three year old with autism.

I would appreciate information regarding RDI. Has anyone in the

group tried RDI or is currently in the program? Does anyone combine

RDI with ABA or VB?

Thanks,

Margaret

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Hi,

I wanted to direct you to a good resource about RDI- Lee. She is

a very experienced mother, therapist, consultant,....that has recently

completed certification in RDI.

She writes regular columns about her experience with ABA (for about 9 years

now?), and you can read these columns at http://www.AutismTreatment.info

(this is a website she and I created together).

She also has a website at http://www.FirstYearsInterventions.com that

describes alittle more about RDI.

Thanks,

J. P. Reirdon

Webmaster

http://www.AutismTreatment.info/

You CAN treat Autism!!

Get treatment tips for children with Autism, PDD and Aperger's Syndrome from

parents who have successfully helped their children.

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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 01:20:35 -0000

From: " margaret_hauke " <margaret_hauke@...>

Subject: RDI

I am new to the group and have a three year old with autism.

I would appreciate information regarding RDI. Has anyone in the

group tried RDI or is currently in the program? Does anyone combine

RDI with ABA or VB?

Thanks,

Margaret

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Dianne,

Hi, Lee is an excellent resource about RDI. I am sure she would

answer any questions you have about RDI. She just recently completed RDI

Certification.

Her website is at http://www.FirstYearsInterventions.com/ She also does a

website with me at http://www.AutismTreatment.info

Just my impressions from reading..... It is very effective in teaching

social skills, but is not used widely only because it is a newer form of

treatment with fewer people trained in how to do it. It is not considered

ABA, but nevertheless a valuable form of treatment for children with certain

deficits.

I am sure will provide more and better info.

J. Reirdon

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:17:40 -0000

From: " DJR " <teachitagin@...>

Subject: RDI

Hello, if anyone can or cares to, tell me

what you know about this program RDI,

the social skills program from HOU.

Is it promising? What are some reasons

it is not being more widely used?

Where is Ray Condon. Region13

gave me his name.

Thanks, Dianne

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> Has anyone had success with their school system paying for RDI?

Most school systems, parents, and professionals probably don't even

know what Relationship Development Intervetnion (RDI)is. Most people

that I talk to have never even heard of it. I doubt that any school

in Georgia has even been approached about paying or even providing

RDI.

If you are going to approach them, you may want to begin by showing

them The Connections Center research that they have recently

published.

www.rdiconnect.com

Shauna Hazlitt, M.Ed.

The Summit Learning Center

Peach Autism Center

678-624-1696

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Who is "you know who!"

RE: RDI

Yes- Coweta County has paid for Colter to receive RDI & VBA provided byyou know who!Shel-----Original Message-----From: cindyroyster [mailto:cindyroyster@...] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 8:05 PMautism Subject: RDIHas anyone had success with their school system paying for RDI?

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Tami,

I just joined a parent group for RDI - we are all considering trying

it. I am about 1/2 way through the intro book too - excellent, but

really tough reading...

Anyway, I agree, it sounds great and I have tried a few very

tentative things with my son that have been wonderful so far. I am

looking forward to learning more!

Anne, Mom to Jack, 7.6, AS, DSI, ADD

> hi there, i just attended the annual autism conference in manitoba,

canada.

> there was info on the RDI program. just wondering if any of you

out there have heard of it or have implimented it in your families?

it sounds promising.

> http://www.rdiconnect.com/

> it is reletivly new here and seems to be founded in houston, texas

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> Tami

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Hi Tami,

We are currently doing RDI. We have been doing RDI for about a year.

We have mostly been doing RDI lifestyle changes. Lab time has been a

bit elusive. I'm getting ready to look for a consultant, so that we

can get some help implementing Lab time at home. I really love the

philosophy behind it and saw improvement within weeks of starting it.

If you want more information I would start with the two books Dr.

Gutstein has authored. I wish I could tell you the whole titles, but

one is " Solving the Relationship Puzzle. " They are both on the site

you've listed.

Hope this helps.

Deb

> hi there, i just attended the annual autism conference in manitoba,

canada.

> there was info on the RDI program. just wondering if any of you out

there have heard of it or have implimented it in your families? it

sounds promising.

> http://www.rdiconnect.com/

> it is reletivly new here and seems to be founded in houston, texas

>

>

>

>

> Tami

>

>

>

>

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> Post your free ad now! Canada Personals

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Hi Tami,

We are currently doing RDI. We have been doing RDI for about a year.

We have mostly been doing RDI lifestyle changes. Lab time has been a

bit elusive. I'm getting ready to look for a consultant, so that we

can get some help implementing Lab time at home. I really love the

philosophy behind it and saw improvement within weeks of starting it.

If you want more information I would start with the two books Dr.

Gutstein has authored. I wish I could tell you the whole titles, but

one is " Solving the Relationship Puzzle. " They are both on the site

you've listed.

Hope this helps.

Deb

> hi there, i just attended the annual autism conference in manitoba,

canada.

> there was info on the RDI program. just wondering if any of you out

there have heard of it or have implimented it in your families? it

sounds promising.

> http://www.rdiconnect.com/

> it is reletivly new here and seems to be founded in houston, texas

>

>

>

>

> Tami

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Post your free ad now! Canada Personals

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Hi all,

I am currently looking into RDI(Relationship Development Intervention) for my

son and it is a little blurred at the moment. However, the readings do make a

lot sense to me and it is working(!!) after trying out 2 activities.

May I know who is also using RDI? Any success stoty or tips to share?

Thanks,

candice

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Hi .

We are using RDI. Email me off line if you want. There is also a

group RDI UK that may be useful to you.

Jane

candicecbt wrote:

Hi all,

I am currently looking into RDI(Relationship Development Intervention)

for my son and it is a little blurred at the moment. However, the

readings do make a lot sense to me and it is working(!!) after trying

out 2 activities.

May I know who is also using RDI? Any success stoty or tips to share?

Thanks,

candice

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We have also been doing RDI with the same consultant for the past 6 months, and have seen similar improvements in our relationship with our 5 year old son.  We are certainly going to renew the arrangement for the next 6 months.  Feel free to email off list.

regards,SimonOn Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:20 PM, rachel5827 <rachel5827@...> wrote:

Hi , we have been doing RDI with our son since October last year. Its taking time but we are starting to see improvements and are learning alot ourselves. Our son is now more flexible when it comes to change and his eye contact and connection with us is greatly improved. Here is the link for our consult if you are in the UK.

http://www.thinkautism.co.uk/

Hope this helps,

>

> Hi all,

>

> I am currently looking into RDI(Relationship Development Intervention) for my son and it is a little blurred at the moment. However, the readings do make a lot sense to me and it is working(!!) after trying out 2 activities.

>

> May I know who is also using RDI? Any success stoty or tips to share?

>

> Thanks,

> candice

>

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Thanks all for your contact details and willingness to share (offline). I will

try to read up the 2 books that have just arrived.

A few initial questions though...

How many hours do you all do?

Do you use anyone outside the family to relief you?

What are some of the RDI activities (suggestions)for eye contact?

Thanks,

candice

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I am currently looking into RDI(Relationship Development Intervention)

> > for my son and it is a little blurred at the moment. However, the readings

> > do make a lot sense to me and it is working(!!) after trying out 2

> > activities.

> > >

> > > May I know who is also using RDI? Any success stoty or tips to share?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > candice

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Simon Godden

>

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Hi

Our son's ADOS score has gone from 19 (out of 22, v high) to 12 (the cut off for

autism is 10) in the 18 months we have been doing RDI properly with him.

We were doing RDI prior to the 18 month period but we hadnt got the

mentor/apprentice relationship in place (due to major oppositional and verbally

controlling behaviour on his part). Once we cracked that, things really took

off.

Re your questions - there are no exercises that 'work on eye contact'. The eye

contact evolves naturally as parent and child begin to communicate better and

the child is supported to use non-verbal communication to inform their thinking

(which is what non autistic people do without thinking about it).....this

includes reading facial expression, which involves more eye contact.

Re hours - it is a lifestyle rather than a series of activities, so you change

your communication style and use it throughout the day. You can do practically

anything in an RDI way.

Would suggest you talk to an RDI Consultant and/or join the RDI-UK group

RDI-UK/

Several Consultants post on that list so you have plenty of opportunities to get

info from both other parents and Consultants.

Cheers

Zoe

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > I am currently looking into RDI(Relationship Development Intervention)

> > > for my son and it is a little blurred at the moment. However, the readings

> > > do make a lot sense to me and it is working(!!) after trying out 2

> > > activities.

> > > >

> > > > May I know who is also using RDI? Any success stoty or tips to share?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > candice

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Simon Godden

> >

>

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Hi ,

I think it's one of the best therapies I've tried. My son non-verbal

until 4 years (now 10), self injurious and riddled with obsessional

tendancies was in his first school concert last week. He sang 'mamma

mia', and 'we are the world perfectly' (I know strange choice for a

children's' concert!!), you would not have picked him out of a group

of NT's - I cried buckets. He sat through an hour in blazing heat,

and then went off to have a drink with the others, and no TA in tow.

We've done many therapies, diets and biomed they've all played their

part - but I think RDI is, as the blurb suggests, tackling the real

core deficits of autism.

Elaine

On 5 Jul 2009, at 20:28, candicecbt wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I am currently looking into RDI(Relationship Development

> Intervention) for my son and it is a little blurred at the moment.

> However, the readings do make a lot sense to me and it is working

> (!!) after trying out 2 activities.

>

> May I know who is also using RDI? Any success stoty or tips to share?

>

> Thanks,

> candice

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

> advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

> qualified practitioner.

>

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Well done Callum! Really chuffed for you Elaine xxx

simondavis@... wrote:

>

>

> Hi ,

> I think it's one of the best therapies I've tried. My son non-verbal

> until 4 years (now 10), self injurious and riddled with obsessional

> tendancies was in his first school concert last week. He sang 'mamma

> mia', and 'we are the world perfectly' (I know strange choice for a

> children's' concert!!), you would not have picked him out of a group

> of NT's - I cried buckets. He sat through an hour in blazing heat,

> and then went off to have a drink with the others, and no TA in tow.

> We've done many therapies, diets and biomed they've all played their

> part - but I think RDI is, as the blurb suggests, tackling the real

> core deficits of autism.

> Elaine

>

> On 5 Jul 2009, at 20:28, candicecbt wrote:

>

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I am currently looking into RDI(Relationship Development

> > Intervention) for my son and it is a little blurred at the moment.

> > However, the readings do make a lot sense to me and it is working

> > (!!) after trying out 2 activities.

> >

> > May I know who is also using RDI? Any success stoty or tips to share?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > candice

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > DISCLAIMER

> > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

> > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

> > qualified practitioner.

> >

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Hi ,

It's quite hard to get your head round to start with because it's so

unlike the way other home programmes are set up but it's a lifestyle

therapy and so there is no set amount of hours. Everything you do with

your child will be RDI, i.e. mealtimes, bedtime, playing, etc.

and quite often you have to involve them in day to day tasks such as

getting them to help you with the housework, DIY, gardening, etc. as

part of RDI.

It is a parent-based therapy but I think lots of people either send

their children to school or use therapists (not called therapists in

RDI) who can then use RDI-friendly techniques. We employ 'therapists'

and they do 15 hours a week between them.

There is an RDI activities book with eye contact exercises but it is out

of date now. RDI is no longer activities based and does not have

exercises any more. It has parent objectives (for your training)

followed by child objectives. You involve the child in what you do

whilst working on your current objective.

It is incredibly complicated and I can't imagine anyone being able to do

it without a consultant.

hope that helps,

Sara

..

candicecbt wrote:

>

>

> Thanks all for your contact details and willingness to share

> (offline). I will try to read up the 2 books that have just arrived.

>

> A few initial questions though...

> How many hours do you all do?

> Do you use anyone outside the family to relief you?

> What are some of the RDI activities (suggestions)for eye contact?

>

> Thanks,

> candice

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > I am currently looking into RDI(Relationship Development

> Intervention)

> > > for my son and it is a little blurred at the moment. However, the

> readings

> > > do make a lot sense to me and it is working(!!) after trying out 2

> > > activities.

> > > >

> > > > May I know who is also using RDI? Any success stoty or tips to

> share?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > candice

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Simon Godden

> >

>

>

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Thanks Sara - hope you are all well - will call soon...... xx

On 6 Jul 2009, at 15:46, Sara Moroza- wrote:

> Well done Callum! Really chuffed for you Elaine xxx

>

>

> simondavis@... wrote:

>>

>>

>> Hi ,

>> I think it's one of the best therapies I've tried. My son non-verbal

>> until 4 years (now 10), self injurious and riddled with obsessional

>> tendancies was in his first school concert last week. He sang 'mamma

>> mia', and 'we are the world perfectly' (I know strange choice for a

>> children's' concert!!), you would not have picked him out of a group

>> of NT's - I cried buckets. He sat through an hour in blazing heat,

>> and then went off to have a drink with the others, and no TA in tow.

>> We've done many therapies, diets and biomed they've all played their

>> part - but I think RDI is, as the blurb suggests, tackling the real

>> core deficits of autism.

>> Elaine

>>

>> On 5 Jul 2009, at 20:28, candicecbt wrote:

>>

>>> Hi all,

>>>

>>> I am currently looking into RDI(Relationship Development

>>> Intervention) for my son and it is a little blurred at the moment.

>>> However, the readings do make a lot sense to me and it is working

>>> (!!) after trying out 2 activities.

>>>

>>> May I know who is also using RDI? Any success stoty or tips to

>>> share?

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>> candice

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>> DISCLAIMER

>>> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

>>> advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

>>> qualified practitioner.

>>>

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