RE: Periodised programme for Volleyball

[Guest guest]

Jon, if you're looking to see how high they jump, test vertical jump. You can do

with or without countermovement, with a 1- or 3-step approach, etc. If you want

to use the squat as a training movement, by all means do so (and you will

probably want to test it also for that reason), but don't test it as a measure

of their jumping ability.As for agility tests, you can use standard T-tests or

pro agility if you wish, which may have some standards or norms which you could

compare your athletes' times to, or you can devise your own agility test which

you feel more accurately reflects the needs of the players. Just make sure this

is the same test you use every time you test them on agility/change of

direction, as that is the only way to know if they are improving.In terms of

jumping, I guess it depends on both biological and training age of the athletes,

but I'm a big fan of Al Vermeil's quote that " if you're going to teach them to

run, you better teach them to slow down. If you're going to teach them to jump,

you better teach them to land. " In other words - teach proper landing mechanics

first (in my opinion). Also remember that many activities fit the plyometric

mold - even things like skipping and hopping, provided ground contact time is

kept short.

Brock LegginsNorwalk, IA

Supertraining

From: jeasdown@...

Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 19:57:27 +0000

Subject: Periodised programme for Volleyball

Hello all

I was wondering how one might structure a plan for a volleyball player.

What specific tests one might use to monitor progress of key performance

variables specific to the biomechanical and metabolic demands of the sport in

question.

I was thinking along the lines of RM back squat as max strength in the squat is

highly correlated with vertical jump performance.

To test speed strength perhaps a clean/snatch from the hip. However, what to do

if the athlete is not yet technically proficient in the aforementioned exercise?

Would a vertical jump test be the most valid as vertical jump performance is

going to be a direct predictor of physical ability related to volleyball?

Am I correct in thinking that a similar height recorded between a static 90

degree VJ and CMJ would indicate a high rate of force development and signify a

need for more maximal strength training?

Which agility tests would be valid to test a volleyball players movement? Namely

that of an athlete playing the power position/spiker.

Also, I am a little unsure of where to place plyometric training into the

program, and which exercises to start with if the athlete has no prior

experience with jump training let alone minimal ground contact time SSC

activities. Could you start the athlete off with low intensity drills in during

GPP and begin to advance to more intensive drills during the SPP or when the

athlete shows competence in the easier exercises?

I apologize if this post is asking too much. Any help would be greatly

appreciated.

Thanks for everyone's time.

Jon Easdown

London

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello all

>

> I was wondering how one might structure a plan for a volleyball player.

>

> What specific tests one might use to monitor progress of key performance

variables specific to the biomechanical and metabolic demands of the sport in

question.

>

> I was thinking along the lines of RM back squat as max strength in the squat

is highly correlated with vertical jump performance.

>

> To test speed strength perhaps a clean/snatch from the hip. However, what to

do if the athlete is not yet technically proficient in the aforementioned

exercise?

>

> Would a vertical jump test be the most valid as vertical jump performance is

going to be a direct predictor of physical ability related to volleyball?

>

> Am I correct in thinking that a similar height recorded between a static 90

degree VJ and CMJ would indicate a high rate of force development and signify a

need for more maximal strength training?

>

> Which agility tests would be valid to test a volleyball players movement?

Namely that of an athlete playing the power position/spiker.

>

> Also, I am a little unsure of where to place plyometric training into the

program, and which exercises to start with if the athlete has no prior

experience with jump training let alone minimal ground contact time SSC

activities. Could you start the athlete off with low intensity drills in during

GPP and begin to advance to more intensive drills during the SPP or when the

athlete shows competence in the easier exercises?

>

> I apologize if this post is asking too much. Any help would be greatly

appreciated.

>

> Thanks for everyone's time.

>

> Jon Easdown

> London

>

I saw the USSR volleyball team in LA in the 80's. Their warmup made them look

like they were a bunch of acrobats. Gymnastics and acrobatics are excellent gpp

for volleyball (as well as other sports). The Oly lifts might not be too bad

with the coordination and power requirements. For aerobic fitness basketball

would not be too bad.Track is without peer for speed.

Green

Lompoc,CA.

[Guest guest]

IMHO although maximum force positively correlates with jump height, I think

the power necessary for a high jump is performed at a much higher velocity

and lower load. Therefore a test involving lifting of heavy weights (low

speed) would not gauge the degree of athletic performance necessary for a

jump.

Giovanni Ciriani - West Hartford, CT 06110 - USA

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Brock Leggins <brockleggins@...>wrote:

> **

>

>

>

> Jon, if you're looking to see how high they jump, test vertical jump. You

> can do with or without countermovement, with a 1- or 3-step approach, etc.

> If you want to use the squat as a training movement, by all means do so

> (and you will probably want to test it also for that reason), but don't

> test it as a measure of their jumping ability.As for agility tests, you can

> use standard T-tests or pro agility if you wish, which may have some

> standards or norms which you could compare your athletes' times to, or you

> can devise your own agility test which you feel more accurately reflects

> the needs of the players. Just make sure this is the same test you use

> every time you test them on agility/change of direction, as that is the

> only way to know if they are improving.In terms of jumping, I guess it

> depends on both biological and training age of the athletes, but I'm a big

> fan of Al Vermeil's quote that " if you're going to teach them to run, you

> better teach them to slow down. If you're going to teach them to jump, you

> better teach them to land. " In other words - teach proper landing mechanics

> first (in my opinion). Also remember that many activities fit the

> plyometric mold - even things like skipping and hopping, provided ground

> contact time is kept short.

> Brock LegginsNorwalk, IA

>

> Supertraining

> From: jeasdown@...

> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 19:57:27 +0000

> Subject: Periodised programme for Volleyball

>

>

> Hello all

>

> I was wondering how one might structure a plan for a volleyball player.

>

> What specific tests one might use to monitor progress of key performance

> variables specific to the biomechanical and metabolic demands of the sport

> in question.

>

> I was thinking along the lines of RM back squat as max strength in the

> squat is highly correlated with vertical jump performance.

>

> To test speed strength perhaps a clean/snatch from the hip. However, what

> to do if the athlete is not yet technically proficient in the

> aforementioned exercise?

>

> Would a vertical jump test be the most valid as vertical jump performance

> is going to be a direct predictor of physical ability related to volleyball?

>

> Am I correct in thinking that a similar height recorded between a static

> 90 degree VJ and CMJ would indicate a high rate of force development and

> signify a need for more maximal strength training?

>

> Which agility tests would be valid to test a volleyball players movement?

> Namely that of an athlete playing the power position/spiker.

>

> Also, I am a little unsure of where to place plyometric training into the

> program, and which exercises to start with if the athlete has no prior

> experience with jump training let alone minimal ground contact time SSC

> activities. Could you start the athlete off with low intensity drills in

> during GPP and begin to advance to more intensive drills during the SPP or

> when the athlete shows competence in the easier exercises?

>

> I apologize if this post is asking too much. Any help would be greatly

> appreciated.

>

> Thanks for everyone's time.

>

> Jon Easdown

>

> London

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Check out www.plyotruth.com. Its a great website from the Norwegian National

Volleyball

Teams head coach.

Todd Gaudreau

Williston,ND

USA

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Re: Periodised programme for Volleyball

>

> Hello all

>

> I was wondering how one might structure a plan for a volleyball player.

>

> What specific tests one might use to monitor progress of key performance

variables specific to the biomechanical and metabolic demands of the sport in

question.

>

> I was thinking along the lines of RM back squat as max strength in the squat

is highly correlated with vertical jump performance.

>

> To test speed strength perhaps a clean/snatch from the hip. However, what to

do if the athlete is not yet technically proficient in the aforementioned

exercise?

>

> Would a vertical jump test be the most valid as vertical jump performance is

going to be a direct predictor of physical ability related to volleyball?

>

> Am I correct in thinking that a similar height recorded between a static 90

degree VJ and CMJ would indicate a high rate of force development and signify a

need for more maximal strength training?

>

> Which agility tests would be valid to test a volleyball players movement?

Namely that of an athlete playing the power position/spiker.

>

> Also, I am a little unsure of where to place plyometric training into the

program, and which exercises to start with if the athlete has no prior

experience with jump training let alone minimal ground contact time SSC

activities. Could you start the athlete off with low intensity drills in during

GPP and begin to advance to more intensive drills during the SPP or when the

athlete shows competence in the easier exercises?

>

> I apologize if this post is asking too much. Any help would be greatly

appreciated.

>

> Thanks for everyone's time.

>

> Jon Easdown

> London

>

I saw the USSR volleyball team in LA in the 80's. Their warmup made them look

like they were a bunch of acrobats. Gymnastics and acrobatics are excellent gpp

for volleyball (as well as other sports). The Oly lifts might not be too bad

with the coordination and power requirements. For aerobic fitness basketball

would not be too bad.Track is without peer for speed.

Green

Lompoc,CA.

[Guest guest]

> What specific tests one might use to monitor progress of key

performance variables specific to the biomechanical and metabolic

demands of the sport in question.

No approach vertical for VJ

> Also, I am a little unsure of where to place plyometric training

into the program, and which exercises to start with if the athlete has

no prior experience with jump training let alone minimal ground contact

time SSC activities. Could you start the athlete off with low intensity

drills in during GPP and begin to advance to more intensive drills

during the SPP or when the athlete shows competence in the easier

exercises?

To test speed strength perhaps a clean/snatch from the hip. However,

what to do if the athlete is not yet technically proficient in the

aforementioned exercise? 

3 RM test: power snatch

> Am I correct in thinking that a similar height recorded between a

static 90 degree VJ and CMJ would indicate a high rate of force

development and signify a need for more maximal strength training?

No. More heavy squats combined w/power snatches and some supplemental plyos

(jump rope, hops, etc.)

3 RM back squat

3 RM overhead squat

Increase in lean mass, reduction of body fat percentage (increased power to

weight ratio).

> Which agility tests would be valid to test a volleyball players

movement? Namely that of an athlete playing the power position/spiker.

Scrimmage. Spikers tend to only need to move forward and backward to spike.

Lateral movement is also equally simple...shuffle laterally.

> Also, I am a little unsure of where to place plyometric training

into the program, and which exercises to start with if the athlete has

no prior experience with jump training let alone minimal ground contact

time SSC activities. Could you start the athlete off with low intensity

drills in during GPP and begin to advance to more intensive drills

during the SPP or when the athlete shows competence in the easier

exercises?

Supplemental plyos such as jumping rope may be used as warm up before

Weightlifting  Consult NSCA guidelines for plyo training. I think a 1.5 times

bodyweight is a minimal requirement before safely engaging in depth jumping and

other intense plyo exercises. Joint stress from landing in high intensity plyo

exercises is multiples of body weight. Unless you  work with the athlete year

round for years you will never get to SPP.

My cardio pulmonary conditioning training when preparing Karch Kiraly for

Atlanta was 5 min rowing sprints on an Erg at a 1:30 pace, before lifting,

combined with 10 yd wind sprints once or twice a week. Deceleration must be

completed in 5 yds. Reps, rest time and sprint effort are variables. Kiraly

practiced four days a week and competed every weekend during the season.

The result of 2 years of the synergistic use of Weightlifting and plyos resulted

in 6'2 " 220 lbs Kiraly showing a 40 " no approach vertical and executing 265 lb 3

RM power snatches. He also did a 43 " box jump w/30lb dumbell in each hand for

4x20 rep sets. Kiraly could also squat 450 lbs for reps. Remember he had been

playing volleyball for 25 yrs so he had a superb training foundation to build

on.

Your periodized program should be a fairly linear particularly with newbies ,

increase in stress as the athlete adapts, unless you are able to work with the

athlete year round. Be attentive to the 3 major components of training:

Psychological

Physiological

Social

And remember:

Even the strongest have their moments of fatigue.

~ Friedrich Nietzsche

Are you training indoor or beach VB?

What age are your athletes?

How do you test for suitability for VB?

How often and how long are your strength training sessions?

Do you know how to teach Weightlifting? 

What about the foundation of all training, diet?

W.G.

Ubermensch Sports Consultancy

San Diego, CA.

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From: brandong <cccp920292002@...>

Supertraining

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:40 AM

Subject: Re: Periodised programme for Volleyball

 

>

> Hello all

>

> I was wondering how one might structure a plan for a volleyball player.

>

> What specific tests one might use to monitor progress of key performance

variables specific to the biomechanical and metabolic demands of the sport in

question.

>

> I was thinking along the lines of RM back squat as max strength in the squat

is highly correlated with vertical jump performance.

>

> To test speed strength perhaps a clean/snatch from the hip. However, what to

do if the athlete is not yet technically proficient in the aforementioned

exercise?

>

> Would a vertical jump test be the most valid as vertical jump performance is

going to be a direct predictor of physical ability related to volleyball?

>

> Am I correct in thinking that a similar height recorded between a static 90

degree VJ and CMJ would indicate a high rate of force development and signify a

need for more maximal strength training?

>

> Which agility tests would be valid to test a volleyball players movement?

Namely that of an athlete playing the power position/spiker.

>

> Also, I am a little unsure of where to place plyometric training into the

program, and which exercises to start with if the athlete has no prior

experience with jump training let alone minimal ground contact time SSC

activities. Could you start the athlete off with low intensity drills in during

GPP and begin to advance to more intensive drills during the SPP or when the

athlete shows competence in the easier exercises?

>

> I apologize if this post is asking too much. Any help would be greatly

appreciated.

>

> Thanks for everyone's time.

>

> Jon Easdown

> London

>

I saw the USSR volleyball team in LA in the 80's. Their warmup made them look

like they were a bunch of acrobats. Gymnastics and acrobatics are excellent gpp

for volleyball (as well as other sports). The Oly lifts might not be too bad

with the coordination and power requirements. For aerobic fitness basketball

would not be too bad.Track is without peer for speed.

Green

Lompoc,CA.