Re: Knee Injury of some sort(The Rehab now)

November 3, 2010

Hello All,

First off,I thank you for your responses on my matter. I finally broke down and

went to the emergency room and got an XRAY..No fracture and structurally they

said my knee looked good. But what they did see was a lot of blood build up in

the area of the swelling. I then went and got an MRI.. I was said to have a

Severe Contussion and possibly a patella strain? They said as the swelling would

go down, I would regain flexibility when i flex my knee..

So now,I have to do my OWN rehab because I have shelled out enough on hospital

visited.. Tonight I got on the nautilus leg press machine,and I did single leg

presses..The pain is there obviously,as it feels like something is pulling,but I

wasnt unbearable and I was able to do 3 sets of 10. Im guessing that this will

be a prolonged rehabbed because this tendon is not an easy one to heal.. I will

my next competition but it is not as important is me being healthy. I cant do

olympic lifts,plyometrics or any of the stuff that a fighter really needs to

do.. Can anyone give me any ideas on how to possibly rehab this injury and

regained the flexibility I previously had? Any research links would be

helpful.Thank you all.

.Archield

Florida,USA

Re: Knee Injury of some sort.

Hello -

I'm sorry you're hurting and hesitate to see a doc - I'm sure you're aware that

none of us can make such decisions for you, but we can on line give you our take

on " what we would do if this were our knee " . I mean, nobody in their right mind

would prescribe or tell you to do anything without seeing you and examining

you... and I do sympathize with you both on the insurance situation and the

pending competition.

I think if this were my knee and I'd suffered a direct strike, that coupled with

the fact I was having some difficulty with stairs, and with putting my weight on

it, I could be suffering anything from a simple dislocation of that kneecap

tracking poorly from moved out of place and irritation of all the " meat " around

that kneecap to bone fracture to a complete surgical situation... and I could

need anything from a really good sports MT to a sports surgeon....sigh.

Previously I've had to do a lot of reading and yes, self guessing on my own knee

and sorting out what it was and what it wasn't.

Since I'm an MT and I do a lot of work with injuries, what I would be doing for

myself is comparing the two knees and feeling carefully around to see where that

kneecap is - or see someone I trust who does the same style work I do as a first

step. That's my choice as the least expensive and first step for my own body

generally when I'm not sure what's happening and also I would be taking my level

of pain into account - and gut feel as to fracture or something " terribly wrong "

in there... if the pain was keeping me awake that too would factor in... I would

also be halting training involving that leg right away until I got it solved -

and that would be my first priority with a competition end of November, I would

be facing the " go/no go " very quickly to compete or not. I've had to sit out of

a nationals before and worlds from a knee injury and it's not what I'd want, but

it's what would likely be best if this is serious.

Depending on what I found looking around that knee and again, gut feel coupled

with the rest of it, if I was not sure about that kneecap's being in 1 piece or

possible fracture or bone chips in there, I'd be getting the xray - probably

from 1 of those urgent care places which might save me money...and I'd ask my

friends for their suggestions if I needed a doc or an mri. I'd be hoping like

hell it wasn't major and really hoping for it not to be surgical.. I'd also look

for some of those " free or cheap chiro xray ads " thinking I might be able to get

that xray cheap - I have health insurance but it's really pathetic, costs me 7k

out of pocket before they cover anything...and costs me a lot to have it.

That's what I would likely do if my knee was doing this - please keep in mind

this is not a direct recommendation for your knee, but what I would do if mine

as acting in a similar fashion. I know we do have members of the list in your

area and perhaps they will step forward with some suggestions on less expensive

options for xray or other medical things if they have them.

That's the best I can do for anybody I'm not working with and keep in mind, this

is not a diagnosis, nor saying you should do any of this...and I'm sure the rest

of the members here will do what they can to comment to you, I'm sure we are all

feeling your frustration and concern - and many of us do know what it's like to

have to deal with this sort of injury and the unknown - and pending competition.

Please let us know what happens and I hope you successfully compete.

The Phantom

aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

Denver, Colorado, USA

Knee Injury of some sort.

Hello All,

I am looking for help on an injury I suffered at sparring practice about a week

and half ago. I was sparring in taekwondo and I threw a roundhouse kick to my

opponents torso and he blocked it with his knee and it hit my knee.Well,it feel

like the inside of my knee right inside of the knee,yet at the same time it

feels like the thigh right about the knee cap a bit.To be honest I cant really

tell.It stiffened immediately and has remained stiff all though I was able to

maintain descent athletic ability just without the use of that leg. The next

day,my knee was swollen pretty bad. It was like I had no knee cap at all,and

that my whole upper leg was my thigh. I have problems bringing the heel of my

foot to my my butt and I had problems squatting because I was in pain quite a

bit.I also had problems walking up and down steps as well. Now,Ive iced it a

bit, and I even took a couple days off to rest it and the swelling finally

started to go down quite a bit on saturday and it has got ta better since,but

when I squat, I get a pain that feels like its right on the inside of the knee

cap. I also get a bit of a strain when I try to jump around a bit or put a

descent amount of weight on the leg when it comes to kicking...And as ive said

before, bringing the heel of my foot to my butt is painful and it seems as

though ive lost quite bit of flexibility.. I kind of have to be my own doctor on

this(no health insurance),and I have a major international open at the end of

november..

Can anyone give me an Idea of what may be wrong with me? I know its a patella

injury,im just not sure what kind?I can straighten my leg fine,just bending it

hurts a bit.

How long do I REALLY need to stay off of it?How do I rehab it and regain

flexibility? I appreciate all responses,as I am starting to worry a bit.

Thank You.

.Archield

Florida,USA

November 5, 2010

Hey! Glad to hear it wasn't anything worse! Honestly, MRIs of a joint that's

dealing with fluid build-up can be hit or miss. So don't hesitate getting a

second opinion if things don't improve at all. Not sure what a " patella strain "

means, though ...

That said, if the original diagnosis is correct, then father time and some TLC

will prolly be your best initial rehab. I'd just limit any weight-bearing

activities 'til the swelling is significally better.... even leg presses and

squat machines should get limited action with barely moderate weight(wouldn't

yet do single leg stuff, though). And swelling isn't just reflected by how big

the knee may look. If you still have stiffness/pain when pulling that heel to

your butt, chances are there's still some fluid around the joint that's not

allowing your knee to flex as far as it should.

Just keep in mind that getting any swelling to a bare minimum is top priority.

It'll prolly take a good while but just let that fluid drain out over time.

Constistent ice over and around that medial spot will help, esp if you've been

on your feet a lot or were pretty active that day. And if you have access to a

fitness bicycle the motion will help pump in/out that fluid. If you can take an

inflammatory pain killer it'd prolly be a good idea when anticipating an active

day on your feet.

Once the swelling is gone and most of your range of motion is back, then you can

focus on simple strength training to rehab that knee. Hopefully, it wont' take

too much. Wishin' ya a good recovery and take care!

Crawford, NSCA-CPT

Washington, DC

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> Hello All,

> First off,I thank you for your responses on my matter. I finally broke down

and went to the emergency room and got an XRAY..No fracture and structurally

they said my knee looked good. But what they did see was a lot of blood build up

in the area of the swelling. I then went and got an MRI.. I was said to have a

Severe Contussion and possibly a patella strain? They said as the swelling would

go down, I would regain flexibility when i flex my knee..

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> So now,I have to do my OWN rehab because I have shelled out enough on hospital