Guest guest Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 The landing, eccentric portion, should be taught first. One must be able to reduce force before he/she is able to efficiently produce force. Garrett Sherrill City? Country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hi , In my opinion, the Plyometric phase is the end of traing process and this not mean only regarded to jump! Regarding jump: first of all you must teach the triple extention sequence (that not mean teach olympic weigthlifting movements). Best regards. Leonardo Zoppellaro Venezia, Italy. Â ________________________________ Da: Iglesias <kyiglesias@...> A: Supertraining Inviato: Dom 22 maggio 2011, 18:01:39 Oggetto: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Â Good morning, I would like to know, not only, your opinion and also the reason of: when you do plyometric training do you should teach jumping or landing first? Thank you Iglesias Ossining, NY, 10562 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hi Leonardo, you mean teach them how to jump first (triple extension)? Thank you Iglesias Ossining, NY, 10562 ________________________________ From: Pierleonardo Zoppellaro <zplcoach@...> Supertraining Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 7:38:05 AM Subject: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Â Hi , In my opinion, the Plyometric phase is the end of traing process and this not mean only regarded to jump! Regarding jump: first of all you must teach the triple extention sequence (that not mean teach olympic weigthlifting movements). Best regards. Leonardo Zoppellaro Venezia, Italy. Â ________________________________ Da: Iglesias <kyiglesias@...> A: Supertraining Inviato: Dom 22 maggio 2011, 18:01:39 Oggetto: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Â Good morning, I would like to know, not only, your opinion and also the reason of: when you do plyometric training do you should teach jumping or landing first? Thank you Iglesias Ossining, NY, 10562 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 The benefit of plyometric training comes from the efficiency in hich you can transfer from the eccentric phase to the concentric movement. Becoming efficient and effective in reducing the force during the eccentric phase will allow you to produce force more effectively. I believe it is essential to teaching the landings first, both from a safety perspective (most injuries during plyo training come from poor landing mechanics) and from an efficiency perspective. Barry Stockbrugger Ottawa, ON Canada _____ From: Supertraining [mailto:Supertraining ] On Behalf Of Iglesias Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 12:02 PM Supertraining Subject: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Good morning, I would like to know, not only, your opinion and also the reason of: when you do plyometric training do you should teach jumping or landing first? Thank you Iglesias Ossining, NY, 10562 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Teach jumping and landing simultaneously with rhythmic body weight squatting, dynamic (quick, repetitive squats), and low level, body weight jump squats, where the focus is on getting into positions from which you can produce the most power. Focus on getting the arms back as the athlete lowers (eccentric phase) and bring the arms up as they come up (concentric phase). Focus on knee tracking during landing phases as well. Emphasize positioning, form and posture. Focus on rhythmically getting into and out of the landing with no ³wasted movements² and then progress to doing this at faster rates. When you begin jumping, the same points of emphasis still apply. 1. Form, Posture, Position 2. Rhythmic Efficiency 3. Speed 4. Load 5. Complexity Obviously this is a short answer to a complex question, but I think this will help get you started. Moody Founder, CEO www.AthleteFIT.com Overland Park, KS USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 , You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the same time using body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling possible valgus of the knee joint. Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the floor? thank you Iglesias ________________________________ From: Moody <scott@...> Supertraining Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 5:12:18 PM Subject: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Teach jumping and landing simultaneously with rhythmic body weight squatting, dynamic (quick, repetitive squats), and low level, body weight jump squats, where the focus is on getting into positions from which you can produce the most power. Focus on getting the arms back as the athlete lowers (eccentric phase) and bring the arms up as they come up (concentric phase). Focus on knee tracking during landing phases as well. Emphasize positioning, form and posture. Focus on rhythmically getting into and out of the landing with no ³wasted movements² and then progress to doing this at faster rates. When you begin jumping, the same points of emphasis still apply. 1. Form, Posture, Position 2. Rhythmic Efficiency 3. Speed 4. Load 5. Complexity Obviously this is a short answer to a complex question, but I think this will help get you started. Moody Founder, CEO www.AthleteFIT.com Overland Park, KS USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Greetings, How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing? Jerry Telle lakewood CO USA On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote: > , > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the > same time using > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling > possible > valgus of the knee joint. > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the floor? > > thank you > > Iglesias > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 First of all we have to say which type of plyometric training we are doing. When training " low impact " plyometric we don't have any problem with jumping or landing phase. At the same time that we teach the exercise, we can focus in the correct technique of everybody. Whent training " high impact " plyometrics (those jumps that Verkoshansky has created), we are suppossed to don't have any landing or jumping problem. And the reason is very simple. Verkoshansky designed those very hard jumps for very good athletes. The method is intended to be useful in people with very good strenght levels (a man who is able to make a 1MR squat with twice or more his own body weight), good technique, no injuries, and with people who need stressful methods (others methods are not totally effective now) . This people know how to land and how to jump. Moreover, they have enough strenght to support their body weight in landing. Then, where is the problem of jumping or landing? The problem is when a coach use a very hard and stressful method with everybody. Sincerely, Andres Esper. Argentina. Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I totally agree Andres. I assumed that we were talking about a progressive approach for beginners when teaching plyometrics, due to the way the question was stated ³Which is taught first, Jumping or Landing.² And in no way was I talking about SSC plyos, depth jumps or weighted jumps. I was simply referring to setting the foundation for plyometric training (plyo prep work) by teaching BOTH the jumping motions as well as the landing motions in a very low impact, slow ground contact time and rhythmic / efficient rate of force development (synchronization of the motion to develop comfort, control and confidence). This phase, ties in well with any strength program and is only meant to set the foundation with younger athletes or those at a beginner level. We have 4 phases of plyometric training and we don¹t reach true plyometric training until the later stages (3 and 4). 1. Jumping and Landing 2. Elasticity (similar to a double jump when jumping rope) 3. Stretch Shortening Cycle 4. Depth Jumps or Weighted Jumps Skipping the first two phases where we learn to synchronize the motion, control the landing and effectively react to the ground, could result in injury or long phase of plateau as the athlete is not athletic enough to execute the movements Verkoshansky laid out as plyometric. In response to ¹ question about wasted movements and if we want them to jump ³as soon as they touch the floor.² There is no need to be demanding ground contact times of less than 200 milliseconds in the Jumping and Landing phases. Instead, we are simply teaching them to jump and land efficiently with no wasted movements, i.e. Repositioning of the arms, loss of posture, poor and inefficient knee tracking, etc. Them movements simply need to look rhythmic and confident. At that point, increase the speed and demand of the drill. Moody Founder, CEO www.AthleteFIT.com Overland Park, KS USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Andre, Thank you for your insight. I would tend to agree with you, in my experience athletes who are ready for the more advanced jumping drills are able to handle landing etc. Also, in sport we know landing isnt always pretty and occurs in many different positions with many changes in center of mass distribution. The plyometric nature of some sports takes place of this if the athletes are playing of course. I also feel the same about deceleration mechanics being taught by many, any opinions on this type of training in relation to landing mechanics? Doug Fairbanks Athlete Strength Boston MA Supertraining From: esperandres@... Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 23:27:32 +0000 Subject: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? First of all we have to say which type of plyometric training we are doing. When training " low impact " plyometric we don't have any problem with jumping or landing phase. At the same time that we teach the exercise, we can focus in the correct technique of everybody. Whent training " high impact " plyometrics (those jumps that Verkoshansky has created), we are suppossed to don't have any landing or jumping problem. And the reason is very simple. Verkoshansky designed those very hard jumps for very good athletes. The method is intended to be useful in people with very good strenght levels (a man who is able to make a 1MR squat with twice or more his own body weight), good technique, no injuries, and with people who need stressful methods (others methods are not totally effective now) . This people know how to land and how to jump. Moreover, they have enough strenght to support their body weight in landing. Then, where is the problem of jumping or landing? The problem is when a coach use a very hard and stressful method with everybody. Sincerely, Andres Esper. Argentina. Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Greetings Jerry, I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes center of mass more out in front of hips. Doug Fairbanks Boston MA Supertraining From: JRTELLE@... Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600 Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Greetings, How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing? Jerry Telle lakewood CO USA On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote: > , > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the > same time using > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling > possible > valgus of the knee joint. > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the floor? > > thank you > > Iglesias > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Doug, landing backwards help inexperienced young athletes? when you said that you let them drop back and up as fast as possible. it means that as soon as they have contact with the floor jump back to the box 3-6 " box? thank you Iglesias Ossining, NY, 10562 Puxa Asturias ________________________________ From: douglas fairbanks <dfairbanks92@...> group <supertraining > Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 11:40:14 AM Subject: RE: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Greetings Jerry, I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes center of mass more out in front of hips. Doug Fairbanks Boston MA Supertraining From: JRTELLE@... Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600 Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Greetings, How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing? Jerry Telle lakewood CO USA On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote: > , > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the > same time using > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling > possible > valgus of the knee joint. > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the floor? > > thank you > > Iglesias > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Hi Doug, My contention has always been that backward landings and forward jumps recruit the hip hams complex better. I don't remember ever seeing any EMG confirmation? How high do your advanced athletes back drop? Jerry Telle Lakewood CO USA On May 25, 2011, at 9:40 AM, douglas fairbanks wrote: > > Greetings Jerry, > > I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot > strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use > it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and > usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is > soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x > amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It > allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike > and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs > into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes > center of mass more out in front of hips. > > Doug Fairbanks > Boston MA > > > Supertraining > From: JRTELLE@... > Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600 > Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or > jumping? > > Greetings, > > How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then > forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing? > > Jerry Telle > lakewood CO USA > > On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote: > > > , > > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the > > same time using > > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling > > possible > > valgus of the knee joint. > > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the > floor? > > > > thank you > > > > Iglesias > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Regarding landing or jumping relative to plyometrics or " shock training. " The question we are discussing came up several years back when Mel was speaking at a seminar in Chicago. His response was to teach " falling " from the box rather than jumping. Ken Jakalski Lisle Senior High School Lisle, IL USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Hey , yes they would jump back on to the box or over it, as well as on to another higher box or straight up as in a regular depth jump. Doug Fairbanks Boston MA Supertraining From: kyiglesias@... Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:58:24 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Doug, landing backwards help inexperienced young athletes? when you said that you let them drop back and up as fast as possible. it means that as soon as they have contact with the floor jump back to the box 3-6 " box? thank you Iglesias Ossining, NY, 10562 Puxa Asturias ________________________________ From: douglas fairbanks <dfairbanks92@...> group <supertraining > Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 11:40:14 AM Subject: RE: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Greetings Jerry, I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes center of mass more out in front of hips. Doug Fairbanks Boston MA Supertraining From: JRTELLE@... Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600 Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Greetings, How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing? Jerry Telle lakewood CO USA On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote: > , > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the > same time using > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling > possible > valgus of the knee joint. > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the floor? > > thank you > > Iglesias > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Hey Jerry, I would agree. That seems to be what I view also. For intance my less experienced athletes have better reaction times off the ground when droping backwards than forwards (not all but the majority) especially the ones that have weeker strength in there quads from lack of weight training or machurity. The ones that are stronger deep squaters to begin with seem to have an equal response as compared to drop backs. I have not read any EMG confirmations either, just my close eye. I have had some athletes between 18 - 27 yrs old, with very good relative strength and verticals of between 27 - 37 inches perfom back drops off between 32-36 inch boxes. With this height they would only return to the box or react straight up. I also remember using it with some of my college volleyball outside hitters when I thought they needed to handle more eccentric stress on there hamstrings, so I specifically had them only perform shock landing (eccentric only) off the box 20-24 inches and stick the landing with a straighter shin angle then they used when jumping or droping forward. How have you used them Jerry? Doug Fairbanks Boston MA Supertraining From: JRTELLE@... Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 22:23:36 -0600 Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Hi Doug, My contention has always been that backward landings and forward jumps recruit the hip hams complex better. I don't remember ever seeing any EMG confirmation? How high do your advanced athletes back drop? Jerry Telle Lakewood CO USA On May 25, 2011, at 9:40 AM, douglas fairbanks wrote: > > Greetings Jerry, > > I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot > strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use > it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and > usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is > soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x > amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It > allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike > and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs > into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes > center of mass more out in front of hips. > > Doug Fairbanks > Boston MA > > > Supertraining > From: JRTELLE@... > Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600 > Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or > jumping? > > Greetings, > > How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then > forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing? > > Jerry Telle > lakewood CO USA > > On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote: > > > , > > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the > > same time using > > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling > > possible > > valgus of the knee joint. > > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the > floor? > > > > thank you > > > > Iglesias > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hi Doug, You ask " How have you used them Jerry? " And I must regretfully answer no. My joints started inhibiting my activities some 30 years ago -- though I continued to coach until about 15 years ago. Up to that time I used plyo's somewhat irratically and don't remember doing any backward drops. This idea came to me some years ago and just became a point of curiosity mainly due to the fact that I am obsessed with creating or learning about new ideas. Now my limitations are so severe that all I can do is enjoy others coaching vicariously -- which you have thankfully afforded me. thanks again Jerry Telle Lakewood CO USA On May 26, 2011, at 11:35 AM, douglas fairbanks wrote: > > Hey Jerry, > > I would agree. That seems to be what I view also. For intance my > less experienced athletes have better reaction times off the ground > when droping backwards than forwards (not all but the majority) > especially the ones that have weeker strength in there quads from > lack of weight training or machurity. The ones that are stronger > deep squaters to begin with seem to have an equal response as > compared to drop backs. I have not read any EMG confirmations > either, just my close eye. I have had some athletes between 18 - 27 > yrs old, with very good relative strength and verticals of between > 27 - 37 inches perfom back drops off between 32-36 inch boxes. With > this height they would only return to the box or react straight up. > I also remember using it with some of my college volleyball outside > hitters when I thought they needed to handle more eccentric stress > on there hamstrings, so I specifically had them only perform shock > landing (eccentric only) off the box 20-24 inches and stic k the > landing with a straighter shin angle then they used when jumping or > droping forward. How have you used them Jerry? > > Doug Fairbanks > Boston MA > > > Supertraining > From: JRTELLE@... > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 22:23:36 -0600 > Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or > jumping? > > Hi Doug, > > My contention has always been that backward landings and forward jumps > recruit the hip hams complex better. I don't remember ever seeing any > EMG confirmation? How high do your advanced athletes back drop? > > Jerry Telle > Lakewood CO USA > > On May 25, 2011, at 9:40 AM, douglas fairbanks wrote: > > > > > Greetings Jerry, > > > > I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot > > strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use > > it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and > > usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is > > soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x > > amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It > > allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike > > and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs > > into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes > > center of mass more out in front of hips. > > > > Doug Fairbanks > > Boston MA > > > > > > Supertraining > > From: JRTELLE@... > > Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600 > > Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or > > jumping? > > > > Greetings, > > > > How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box > then > > forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing? > > > > Jerry Telle > > lakewood CO USA > > > > On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote: > > > > > , > > > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the > > > same time using > > > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling > > > possible > > > valgus of the knee joint. > > > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the > > floor? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > Iglesias > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hi Ken, Good ole Mel -- always a stickler for accuracy -- what a mind! I can't believe how much I still miss him. Jerry Telle Lakewood CO USA On May 26, 2011, at 1:12 PM, CoachJ1@... wrote: > Regarding landing or jumping relative to plyometrics or " shock > training. " > > The question we are discussing came up several years back when Mel was > speaking at a seminar in Chicago. > > His response was to teach " falling " from the box rather than jumping. > > > Ken Jakalski > Lisle Senior High School > Lisle, IL USA > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Doug and Jerry, when you start training your athletes you begin teaching them backward landing because of better recruit of hamstring? are there any other physiological or mechanical explanation? are you based on your own experience or are there any books or/and articles? This is very, very helpful Thank you Iglesias Ossining, NY, 10562 ________________________________ From: Jerry Telle <JRTELLE@...> Supertraining Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 12:23:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping? Hi Doug, My contention has always been that backward landings and forward jumps recruit the hip hams complex better. I don't remember ever seeing any EMG confirmation? How high do your advanced athletes back drop? Jerry Telle Lakewood CO USA On May 25, 2011, at 9:40 AM, douglas fairbanks wrote: > > Greetings Jerry, > > I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot > strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use > it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and > usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is > soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x > amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It > allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike > and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs > into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes > center of mass more out in front of hips. > > Doug Fairbanks > Boston MA > > > Supertraining > From: JRTELLE@... > Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600 > Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or > jumping? > > Greetings, > > How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then > forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing? > > Jerry Telle > lakewood CO USA > > On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote: > > > , > > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the > > same time using > > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling > > possible > > valgus of the knee joint. > > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the > floor? > > > > thank you > > > > Iglesias > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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