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The landing, eccentric portion, should be taught first.  One must be able to

reduce force before he/she is able to efficiently produce force.

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Hi ,

In my opinion, the Plyometric phase is the end of traing process and this not

mean only regarded to jump!

Regarding jump: first of all you must teach the triple extention sequence (that

not mean teach olympic weigthlifting movements).

Best regards.

Leonardo Zoppellaro

Venezia, Italy.

 

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Inviato: Dom 22 maggio 2011, 18:01:39

Oggetto: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

 

Good morning,

I would like to know, not only, your opinion and also the reason of: when you do

plyometric training do you should teach jumping or landing first?

Thank you

Iglesias

Ossining, NY, 10562

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Hi Leonardo,

you mean teach them how to jump first (triple extension)?

Thank you

Iglesias

Ossining, NY, 10562

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From: Pierleonardo Zoppellaro <zplcoach@...>

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Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 7:38:05 AM

Subject: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

 

Hi ,

In my opinion, the Plyometric phase is the end of traing process and this not

mean only regarded to jump!

Regarding jump: first of all you must teach the triple extention sequence (that

not mean teach olympic weigthlifting movements).

Best regards.

Leonardo Zoppellaro

Venezia, Italy.

 

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A: Supertraining

Inviato: Dom 22 maggio 2011, 18:01:39

Oggetto: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

 

Good morning,

I would like to know, not only, your opinion and also the reason of: when you do

plyometric training do you should teach jumping or landing first?

Thank you

Iglesias

Ossining, NY, 10562

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The benefit of plyometric training comes from the efficiency in hich you can

transfer from the eccentric phase to the concentric movement. Becoming

efficient and effective in reducing the force during the eccentric phase

will allow you to produce force more effectively. I believe it is essential

to teaching the landings first, both from a safety perspective (most

injuries during plyo training come from poor landing mechanics) and from an

efficiency perspective.

Barry Stockbrugger

Ottawa, ON Canada

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Subject: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

Good morning,

I would like to know, not only, your opinion and also the reason of: when

you do

plyometric training do you should teach jumping or landing first?

Thank you

Iglesias

Ossining, NY, 10562

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Teach jumping and landing simultaneously with rhythmic body weight

squatting, dynamic (quick, repetitive squats), and low level, body weight

jump squats, where the focus is on getting into positions from which you can

produce the most power. Focus on getting the arms back as the athlete lowers

(eccentric phase) and bring the arms up as they come up (concentric phase).

Focus on knee tracking during landing phases as well.

Emphasize positioning, form and posture. Focus on rhythmically getting into

and out of the landing with no ³wasted movements² and then progress to doing

this at faster rates.

When you begin jumping, the same points of emphasis still apply.

1. Form, Posture, Position

2. Rhythmic Efficiency

3. Speed

4. Load

5. Complexity

Obviously this is a short answer to a complex question, but I think this

will help get you started.

Moody

Founder, CEO

www.AthleteFIT.com

Overland Park, KS USA

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,

You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the same time using

body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling possible

valgus of the knee joint.

Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the floor?

thank you

Iglesias

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Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 5:12:18 PM

Subject: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

Teach jumping and landing simultaneously with rhythmic body weight

squatting, dynamic (quick, repetitive squats), and low level, body weight

jump squats, where the focus is on getting into positions from which you can

produce the most power. Focus on getting the arms back as the athlete lowers

(eccentric phase) and bring the arms up as they come up (concentric phase).

Focus on knee tracking during landing phases as well.

Emphasize positioning, form and posture. Focus on rhythmically getting into

and out of the landing with no ³wasted movements² and then progress to doing

this at faster rates.

When you begin jumping, the same points of emphasis still apply.

1. Form, Posture, Position

2. Rhythmic Efficiency

3. Speed

4. Load

5. Complexity

Obviously this is a short answer to a complex question, but I think this

will help get you started.

Moody

Founder, CEO

www.AthleteFIT.com

Overland Park, KS USA

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Greetings,

How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then

forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing?

Jerry Telle

lakewood CO USA

On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote:

> ,

> You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the

> same time using

> body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling

> possible

> valgus of the knee joint.

> Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the floor?

>

> thank you

>

> Iglesias

> .

>

>

>

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First of all we have to say which type of plyometric training we are doing.

When training " low impact " plyometric we don't have any problem with jumping or

landing phase. At the same time that we teach the exercise, we can focus in the

correct technique of everybody.

Whent training " high impact " plyometrics (those jumps that Verkoshansky has

created), we are suppossed to don't have any landing or jumping problem. And the

reason is very simple.

Verkoshansky designed those very hard jumps for very good athletes.

The method is intended to be useful in people with very good strenght levels (a

man who is able to make a 1MR squat with twice or more his own body weight),

good technique, no injuries, and with people who need stressful methods (others

methods are not totally effective now) .

This people know how to land and how to jump. Moreover, they have enough

strenght to support their body weight in landing.

Then, where is the problem of jumping or landing?

The problem is when a coach use a very hard and stressful method with everybody.

Sincerely,

Andres Esper.

Argentina.

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I totally agree Andres. I assumed that we were talking about a progressive

approach for beginners when teaching plyometrics, due to the way the

question was stated ³Which is taught first, Jumping or Landing.² And in no

way was I talking about SSC plyos, depth jumps or weighted jumps.

I was simply referring to setting the foundation for plyometric training

(plyo prep work) by teaching BOTH the jumping motions as well as the landing

motions in a very low impact, slow ground contact time and rhythmic /

efficient rate of force development (synchronization of the motion to

develop comfort, control and confidence). This phase, ties in well with any

strength program and is only meant to set the foundation with younger

athletes or those at a beginner level.

We have 4 phases of plyometric training and we don¹t reach true plyometric

training until the later stages (3 and 4).

1. Jumping and Landing

2. Elasticity (similar to a double jump when jumping rope)

3. Stretch Shortening Cycle

4. Depth Jumps or Weighted Jumps

Skipping the first two phases where we learn to synchronize the motion,

control the landing and effectively react to the ground, could result in

injury or long phase of plateau as the athlete is not athletic enough to

execute the movements Verkoshansky laid out as plyometric.

In response to ¹ question about wasted movements and if we want them to

jump ³as soon as they touch the floor.² There is no need to be demanding

ground contact times of less than 200 milliseconds in the Jumping and

Landing phases. Instead, we are simply teaching them to jump and land

efficiently with no wasted movements, i.e. Repositioning of the arms, loss

of posture, poor and inefficient knee tracking, etc. Them movements simply

need to look rhythmic and confident. At that point, increase the speed and

demand of the drill.

Moody

Founder, CEO

www.AthleteFIT.com

Overland Park, KS USA

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Andre,

Thank you for your insight. I would tend to agree with you, in my experience

athletes who are ready for the more advanced jumping drills are able to handle

landing etc. Also, in sport we know landing isnt always pretty and occurs in

many different positions with many changes in center of mass distribution. The

plyometric nature of some sports takes place of this if the athletes are playing

of course. I also feel the same about deceleration mechanics being taught by

many, any opinions on this type of training in relation to landing mechanics?

Doug Fairbanks

Athlete Strength

Boston MA

Supertraining

From: esperandres@...

Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 23:27:32 +0000

Subject: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

First of all we have to say which type of plyometric training we are doing.

When training " low impact " plyometric we don't have any problem with jumping or

landing phase. At the same time that we teach the exercise, we can focus in the

correct technique of everybody.

Whent training " high impact " plyometrics (those jumps that Verkoshansky has

created), we are suppossed to don't have any landing or jumping problem. And the

reason is very simple.

Verkoshansky designed those very hard jumps for very good athletes.

The method is intended to be useful in people with very good strenght levels (a

man who is able to make a 1MR squat with twice or more his own body weight),

good technique, no injuries, and with people who need stressful methods (others

methods are not totally effective now) .

This people know how to land and how to jump. Moreover, they have enough

strenght to support their body weight in landing.

Then, where is the problem of jumping or landing?

The problem is when a coach use a very hard and stressful method with everybody.

Sincerely,

Andres Esper.

Argentina.

Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar

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Greetings Jerry,

I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot strike for many

younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use it when itroducing low level

depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec.

between so that the focus is soley on droping back and up as fast as possible,

rather than x amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It

allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike and speed is

enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs into forward bounding and

find it helpful with shifting the athletes center of mass more out in front of

hips.

Doug Fairbanks

Boston MA

Supertraining

From: JRTELLE@...

Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600

Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

Greetings,

How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then

forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing?

Jerry Telle

lakewood CO USA

On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote:

> ,

> You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the

> same time using

> body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling

> possible

> valgus of the knee joint.

> Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the floor?

>

> thank you

>

> Iglesias

> .

>

>

>

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Doug,

landing backwards help inexperienced young athletes? when you said that you let

them drop back and up as fast as possible. it means that as soon as they have

contact with the floor jump back to the box 3-6 " box?

thank you

Iglesias

Ossining, NY, 10562

Puxa Asturias

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Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 11:40:14 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

Greetings Jerry,

I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot strike for many

younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use it when itroducing low level

depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec.

between so that the focus is soley on droping back and up as fast as possible,

rather than x amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It

allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike and speed is

enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs into forward bounding and

find it helpful with shifting the athletes center of mass more out in front of

hips.

Doug Fairbanks

Boston MA

Supertraining

From: JRTELLE@...

Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600

Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

Greetings,

How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then

forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing?

Jerry Telle

lakewood CO USA

On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote:

> ,

> You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the

> same time using

> body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling

> possible

> valgus of the knee joint.

> Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the floor?

>

> thank you

>

> Iglesias

> .

>

>

>

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Hi Doug,

My contention has always been that backward landings and forward jumps

recruit the hip hams complex better. I don't remember ever seeing any

EMG confirmation? How high do your advanced athletes back drop?

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

On May 25, 2011, at 9:40 AM, douglas fairbanks wrote:

>

> Greetings Jerry,

>

> I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot

> strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use

> it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and

> usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is

> soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x

> amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It

> allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike

> and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs

> into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes

> center of mass more out in front of hips.

>

> Doug Fairbanks

> Boston MA

>

>

> Supertraining

> From: JRTELLE@...

> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600

> Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or

> jumping?

>

> Greetings,

>

> How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then

> forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing?

>

> Jerry Telle

> lakewood CO USA

>

> On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote:

>

> > ,

> > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the

> > same time using

> > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling

> > possible

> > valgus of the knee joint.

> > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the

> floor?

> >

> > thank you

> >

> > Iglesias

> > .

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Regarding landing or jumping relative to plyometrics or " shock training. "

The question we are discussing came up several years back when Mel was

speaking at a seminar in Chicago.

His response was to teach " falling " from the box rather than jumping.

Ken Jakalski

Lisle Senior High School

Lisle, IL USA

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Hey ,

yes they would jump back on to the box or over it, as well as on to another

higher box or straight up as in a regular depth jump.

Doug Fairbanks

Boston MA

Supertraining

From: kyiglesias@...

Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:58:24 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

Doug,

landing backwards help inexperienced young athletes? when you said that you let

them drop back and up as fast as possible. it means that as soon as they have

contact with the floor jump back to the box 3-6 " box?

thank you

Iglesias

Ossining, NY, 10562

Puxa Asturias

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From: douglas fairbanks <dfairbanks92@...>

group <supertraining >

Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 11:40:14 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

Greetings Jerry,

I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot strike for many

younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use it when itroducing low level

depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec.

between so that the focus is soley on droping back and up as fast as possible,

rather than x amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It

allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike and speed is

enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs into forward bounding and

find it helpful with shifting the athletes center of mass more out in front of

hips.

Doug Fairbanks

Boston MA

Supertraining

From: JRTELLE@...

Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600

Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

Greetings,

How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then

forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing?

Jerry Telle

lakewood CO USA

On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote:

> ,

> You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the

> same time using

> body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling

> possible

> valgus of the knee joint.

> Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the floor?

>

> thank you

>

> Iglesias

> .

>

>

>

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Hey Jerry,

I would agree. That seems to be what I view also. For intance my less

experienced athletes have better reaction times off the ground when droping

backwards than forwards (not all but the majority) especially the ones that have

weeker strength in there quads from lack of weight training or machurity. The

ones that are stronger deep squaters to begin with seem to have an equal

response as compared to drop backs. I have not read any EMG confirmations

either, just my close eye. I have had some athletes between 18 - 27 yrs old,

with very good relative strength and verticals of between 27 - 37 inches perfom

back drops off between 32-36 inch boxes. With this height they would only

return to the box or react straight up. I also remember using it with some of

my college volleyball outside hitters when I thought they needed to handle more

eccentric stress on there hamstrings, so I specifically had them only perform

shock landing (eccentric only) off the box 20-24 inches and stick the landing

with a straighter shin angle then they used when jumping or droping forward.

How have you used them Jerry?

Doug Fairbanks

Boston MA

Supertraining

From: JRTELLE@...

Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 22:23:36 -0600

Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

Hi Doug,

My contention has always been that backward landings and forward jumps

recruit the hip hams complex better. I don't remember ever seeing any

EMG confirmation? How high do your advanced athletes back drop?

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

On May 25, 2011, at 9:40 AM, douglas fairbanks wrote:

>

> Greetings Jerry,

>

> I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot

> strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use

> it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and

> usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is

> soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x

> amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It

> allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike

> and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs

> into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes

> center of mass more out in front of hips.

>

> Doug Fairbanks

> Boston MA

>

>

> Supertraining

> From: JRTELLE@...

> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600

> Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or

> jumping?

>

> Greetings,

>

> How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then

> forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing?

>

> Jerry Telle

> lakewood CO USA

>

> On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote:

>

> > ,

> > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the

> > same time using

> > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling

> > possible

> > valgus of the knee joint.

> > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the

> floor?

> >

> > thank you

> >

> > Iglesias

> > .

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Hi Doug,

You ask " How have you used them Jerry? " And I must regretfully answer

no. My joints started inhibiting my activities some 30 years ago --

though I continued to coach until about 15 years ago. Up to that time

I used plyo's somewhat irratically and don't remember doing any

backward drops. This idea came to me some years ago and just became a

point of curiosity mainly due to the fact that I am obsessed with

creating or learning about new ideas. Now my limitations are so severe

that all I can do is enjoy others coaching vicariously -- which you

have thankfully afforded me.

thanks again

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

On May 26, 2011, at 11:35 AM, douglas fairbanks wrote:

>

> Hey Jerry,

>

> I would agree. That seems to be what I view also. For intance my

> less experienced athletes have better reaction times off the ground

> when droping backwards than forwards (not all but the majority)

> especially the ones that have weeker strength in there quads from

> lack of weight training or machurity. The ones that are stronger

> deep squaters to begin with seem to have an equal response as

> compared to drop backs. I have not read any EMG confirmations

> either, just my close eye. I have had some athletes between 18 - 27

> yrs old, with very good relative strength and verticals of between

> 27 - 37 inches perfom back drops off between 32-36 inch boxes. With

> this height they would only return to the box or react straight up.

> I also remember using it with some of my college volleyball outside

> hitters when I thought they needed to handle more eccentric stress

> on there hamstrings, so I specifically had them only perform shock

> landing (eccentric only) off the box 20-24 inches and stic k the

> landing with a straighter shin angle then they used when jumping or

> droping forward. How have you used them Jerry?

>

> Doug Fairbanks

> Boston MA

>

>

> Supertraining

> From: JRTELLE@...

> Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 22:23:36 -0600

> Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or

> jumping?

>

> Hi Doug,

>

> My contention has always been that backward landings and forward jumps

> recruit the hip hams complex better. I don't remember ever seeing any

> EMG confirmation? How high do your advanced athletes back drop?

>

> Jerry Telle

> Lakewood CO USA

>

> On May 25, 2011, at 9:40 AM, douglas fairbanks wrote:

>

> >

> > Greetings Jerry,

> >

> > I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot

> > strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use

> > it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and

> > usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is

> > soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x

> > amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It

> > allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike

> > and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs

> > into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes

> > center of mass more out in front of hips.

> >

> > Doug Fairbanks

> > Boston MA

> >

> >

> > Supertraining

> > From: JRTELLE@...

> > Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600

> > Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or

> > jumping?

> >

> > Greetings,

> >

> > How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box

> then

> > forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing?

> >

> > Jerry Telle

> > lakewood CO USA

> >

> > On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote:

> >

> > > ,

> > > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the

> > > same time using

> > > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling

> > > possible

> > > valgus of the knee joint.

> > > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the

> > floor?

> > >

> > > thank you

> > >

> > > Iglesias

> > > .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Hi Ken,

Good ole Mel -- always a stickler for accuracy -- what a mind! I can't

believe how much I still miss him.

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

On May 26, 2011, at 1:12 PM, CoachJ1@... wrote:

> Regarding landing or jumping relative to plyometrics or " shock

> training. "

>

> The question we are discussing came up several years back when Mel was

> speaking at a seminar in Chicago.

>

> His response was to teach " falling " from the box rather than jumping.

>

>

> Ken Jakalski

> Lisle Senior High School

> Lisle, IL USA

>

>

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Doug and Jerry,

when you start training your athletes you begin teaching them backward landing

because of better recruit of hamstring? are there any other physiological or

mechanical explanation? are you based on your own experience or are there any

books or/and articles?

This is very, very helpful

Thank you

Iglesias

Ossining, NY, 10562

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From: Jerry Telle <JRTELLE@...>

Supertraining

Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 12:23:36 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or jumping?

Hi Doug,

My contention has always been that backward landings and forward jumps

recruit the hip hams complex better. I don't remember ever seeing any

EMG confirmation? How high do your advanced athletes back drop?

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

On May 25, 2011, at 9:40 AM, douglas fairbanks wrote:

>

> Greetings Jerry,

>

> I do a lot of backward landings. It seems to teach better foot

> strike for many younger more inexperienced athletes. I like to use

> it when itroducing low level depth jumps say off a 3-6 " box and

> usually use single jumps with 5-10 sec. between so that the focus is

> soley on droping back and up as fast as possible, rather than x

> amount of jumps in x amount of time or a set of 8 for example. It

> allow the jump to be a bit more voluntary and focus on foot strike

> and speed is enhanced, my opinion of course. I also use drop backs

> into forward bounding and find it helpful with shifting the athletes

> center of mass more out in front of hips.

>

> Doug Fairbanks

> Boston MA

>

>

> Supertraining

> From: JRTELLE@...

> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:13:29 -0600

> Subject: Re: Re: Plyometric: teach landing first or

> jumping?

>

> Greetings,

>

> How many coaches have their athletes jump backwards from the box then

> forward? Any EMG studies for backwards landing?

>

> Jerry Telle

> lakewood CO USA

>

> On May 24, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Iglesias wrote:

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> > ,

> > You think that both: jumping and landing should be taught at the

> > same time using

> > body weight and focus on good alignment of spine and controlling

> > possible

> > valgus of the knee joint.

> > Wasted movements? you want them jump as soon as they touch the

> floor?

> >

> > thank you

> >

> > Iglesias

> > .

> >

> >

> >

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