Dairy products?

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Hi ,

My power lifting coaches wife competes at figure contest and she is well

into her forties, and she maintains very strongly that dairy causes her and

many of the people she trains and many of her fellow competitors to retain

water. In the approach to the season water retention is a big deal for

these competitors.

Your comment about water retention and cheese and salt and other poster

about diary and water retention have me going back to a post we had on this

site about a study sponsored by the milk board that showed that drinking

milk after training was better at rehydrating the body than than water was.

I remember you commenting on that post. My thoughts about this leads me to

questions - is the milk is in fact retarding water release from the body?

Is the milk causing water retention that is counter productive to removal

of waste products after exercise, rather than being better a better

rehydrater than water? If dairy has a protein or sugar that causes water

retention what might that be?

Some thoughts interested in everyone's answer?

Regards

Nick Tatalias

Johannesburg

South Africa

On 13 May 2010 20:38, <deadliftdiva@...> wrote:

>

>

> I still believe strongly that food is truly individual when it comes to how

> you feel, how it affects you in many aspects.

>

> I've " quit caffeine " accidentally a number of times without warning and

> never had the headache or other side effects I've seen written up. On the

> other hand, I know 1 lady who if she fails to drink something with caffeine

> in about 6 hours has her " ears splitting off " as she puts it. Even when

> exhausted, she is unable to sleep in over that threshold lol.

>

> I'm also capable of sitting about drinking a lot of coffee in a discussion

> group without too much notice on the other side effects too lol. Who can

> say, perhaps some of my ancestors developed a symbiosis with the coffee

> bean.... <grin> I've noticed some of my Swedish cousins are truly masters at

> drinking coffee and want it so brewed down that most people dilute it by

> half when pouring a cup around these folks.

>

> The evidence for and against coffee shifts every so often, it may have some

> good effects and bad effects, like any other thing you consume.

>

> I'm guessing that the water retention one lister posted about on cheese

> consumption may be due to some salt in the cheese, it tends to be fairly

> high in sodium depending on the brand? It may also be some failure of

> digestion due to not eating it often enough too? (Dr. Ralph would be the one

> to enlighten us there I suspect). I have heard of people developing what

> someone termed " disappointed enzymes " . Bodybuilders prepared for the stage

> generally cut carbs to an extremely low level and then coming off their

> meet, tend to eat up and indulge in foods they have eschewed for long

> periods of time - and then have unfortunate side effects like bloat etc. I'd

> heard they were literally not producing enough enzymes for that food group

> due to the fact they weren't eating it and the body in its feedback loop

> essentially geared down...

>

> National Jewish Hospital here in Denver has also shown you can reverse the

> nut allergies to a great extent by eating a very minute amount consistently

> and then increasing it slowly, perhaps this is a tack that would reduce your

> side effects with other foods? (provided it's not a true allergy sending you

> to the ER that is...like the one some folks have to shellfish?), Perhaps if

> someone needs to shift their diet to help them in the long term, they should

> see if such a medical procedure would aid them? (obviously not handling a

> true allergy with its life threatening consequences at home or without

> medical aid...!)

>

> Lastly, I happen to know a gal who lost 100 lbs and has hit a point where

> her doctor says due to her extreme diet restriction, she has literally

> " killed off her fat cells " . It's not a good thing. She now lacks some

> resiliency due to this state and is very rail thin - no insulation against

> cold, a bad thing in Colorado....no padding against impact either. When she

> hits herself with a barbell, it's not fat she's bruising and it tends to be

> a longer, more painful muscle/bone bruise. Seems to get deeper too. She

> got to this state though by eating a lot of meat, and cutting her carbs

> except for veggies and a tiny amount of bulgar wheat cooked for

> breakfast....and she goes through times when her body feels like it's

> " starving to death " and has to carefully avoid eating what she wants to eat,

> for fear of feeling poorly. My worry for her is that if she hits herself

> with sufficient impact, she will break a long bone instead of just brusiing

> it, as she has very little else to hit in some spots...

>

> I'm thinking I'm lucky after reading all these digestion problems, and I

> still don't eat my veggies despite all the glowing remarks on their behalf

> . I leave them to the folks who appear to truly want and need them and

> thus the world balances out.

>

> the Phantom

> aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter

> Denver, Colorado, USA

> Re: Re: Speaking of diets. & addictions...

>

> On May 13, 2010, at 2:13 AM, Jerry Telle wrote: some stuff about

> food/substance addiction.

>

> The most common addiction I know of besides tobacco, becoming less and less

> significant, is caffeine. That is my addiction and if I go a day without

> coffee I get a terrible headache for a couple of days. One big sip of coffee

> and it goes away within minutes. That's physical addiction.

>

> Fair winds and happy bytes, Dave Flory, Flower Mound, TX, U.S.A.

> --

> Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick!

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