Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Both studies are very interesting. However strengthening their quadriceps will probably not improve their outcome, rather the weak quads are a symptom of and not the cause of overall poor health. Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA ________________________________ From: Flory <daflory@...> Supertraining Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 10:24:06 AM Subject: Couple of interesting studies 1 Swallow, beth B., et al, " Quadriceps strength predicts mortality in patients with moderate to severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, " Thorax2007;62:115-120 2 Kamiya, Kentaro, et al, " Decreased Strength of Quadriceps Increases the Risk of Mortality... " Circulation 2010;122:A12709 Couple of studies some might find interesting, particularly pertinent, I think, to the recent discussion of elder training. Fair winds and happy bytes, Dave Flory, Flower Mound, TX, U.S.A. -- Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 > On Mar 15, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Ralph Giarnella wrote: > > Both studies are very interesting. However strengthening their quadriceps will > probably not improve their outcome, rather the weak quads are a symptom of and > not the cause of overall poor health. > > Ralph Giarnella MD > Southington Ct. USA > That's what I was thinking. The exercise to strengthen the quads would probably have a beneficial effect on Heart Health, and stronger quads would perhaps reduce the falling down injuries that often lead in to fractures and complications which result in death (pneumonia) in the elderly. Correlation does not necessarily equal cause. :-) Fair winds and happy bytes, Dave Flory, Flower Mound, TX, U.S.A. -- Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I hope these studies considered causality properly. For example, does decreased quad strength lead to earlier death, or does poor health and aging lead to decreased quad strength and also mean you are closer to the end? This also begs the question " can increasing quad strength lengthen lifespan " ? Ed White Sandwich MA USA From: Flory <daflory@...> Subject: Couple of interesting studies Supertraining Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:24 AM  1 Swallow, beth B., et al, " Quadriceps strength predicts mortality in patients with moderate to severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, " Thorax2007;62:115-120 2 Kamiya, Kentaro, et al, " Decreased Strength of Quadriceps Increases the Risk of Mortality... " Circulation 2010;122:A12709 Couple of studies some might find interesting, particularly pertinent, I think, to the recent discussion of elder training. Fair winds and happy bytes, Dave Flory, Flower Mound, TX, U.S.A. -- Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Quadriceps strength predicts mortality in patients with moderate to severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease + Author Affiliations 1. 1Respiratory Muscle Laboratory, Royal Brompton Hospital, London, UK 2. 2Respiratory Muscle Laboratory, King’s College London School of Medicine, Strand, London, UK 3. 3Department of Biostatistics and Medical Informatics, Hôspital Saint-Louis, Paris, France 1. Correspondence to: Dr E B Swallow Respiratory Muscle Laboratory, Royal Brompton Hospital, Fulham Road, London SW3 6NP, UK; e.swallow@... * Received 8 March 2006 * Accepted 9 September 2006 * Published Online First 7 November 2006 Abstract Background: Prognosis in chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is poorly predicted by indices of air flow obstruction, because other factors that reflect the systemic nature of the disease also influence prognosis. Objective: To test the hypothesis that a reduction in quadriceps maximal voluntary contraction force (QMVC) is a useful predictor of mortality in patients with COPD. Methods: A mortality questionnaire was sent to the primary care physician of 184 patients with COPD who had undergone quadriceps strength measurement over the past 5 years. QMVC was expressed as a percentage of the patient’s body mass index. The end point measured was death or lung transplantation, and median (range) follow-up was 38 (1–54) months. Results: Data were obtained for 162 patients (108 men and 54 women) with a mean (SD) percentage of forced expiratory volume in 1 s (FEV1) predicted of 35.6 (16.2), giving a response rate of 88%. Transplant-free survival of the cohort was 93.5% at 1 year and 87.1% at 2 years. regression models showed that the mortality risk increased with increasing age and with reducing QMVC. Only age (HR 1.72 (95% CI 1.14 to 2.6); p = 0.01) and QMVC (HR 0.91 (95% CI 0.83 to 0.99); p = 0.036) continued to be significant predictors of mortality when controlled for other variables in the multivariate analysis. Conclusion: QMVC is simple and provides more powerful prognostic information on COPD than that provided by age, body mass index and forced expiratory volume in 1 s. Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA ________________________________ From: Ed White <kitesurfer257@...> Supertraining Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 9:09:11 AM Subject: Re: Couple of interesting studies I hope these studies considered causality properly. For example, does decreased quad strength lead to earlier death, or does poor health and aging lead to decreased quad strength and also mean you are closer to the end? This also begs the question " can increasing quad strength lengthen lifespan " ? Ed White Sandwich MA USA From: Flory <daflory@...> Subject: Couple of interesting studies Supertraining Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:24 AM 1 Swallow, beth B., et al, " Quadriceps strength predicts mortality in patients with moderate to severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, " Thorax2007;62:115-120 2 Kamiya, Kentaro, et al, " Decreased Strength of Quadriceps Increases the Risk of Mortality... " Circulation 2010;122:A12709 Couple of studies some might find interesting, particularly pertinent, I think, to the recent discussion of elder training. Fair winds and happy bytes, Dave Flory, Flower Mound, TX, U.S.A. -- Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Core 2. Epidemiology and Prevention of CV Disease: Physiology, Pharmacology and Lifestyle Session Title: Exercise and Cardiac Rehabilitation in Heart Failure Abstract 12709: Decreased Strength of Quadriceps Increases the Risk of Mortality in Patients with Chronic Heart Failure. Kentaro Kamiya; Takashi Masuda; Atsuhiko Matsunaga; Kazumasa Miida; Misao N Ogura; Masahiko Kimura; Chiharu Noda; Minako Ymaoka-Tojo; Takayuki Inomata; Tohru Izumi Kitasato Univ Hosp, Sagamihara, Japan; Kitasato Univ, Sagamihara, Japan; Kitasato Univ Hosp, Sagamihara, Japan; Kitasato Univ, Sagamihara, Japan; Kitasato Univ Sch of medicine, Sagamihara, Japan Background: Although cardiac cachexia is characterized by anexaggerated loss of skeletal muscle mass and muscle weakness,the diagnostic value of its muscle weakness was still undetermined.The purpose of this study was to investigate the relationshipbetween quadriceps strength and cardiovascular mortality inpatients with chronic heart failure (CHF) and to clarify thelevel of quadriceps strength that indicates a poor prognosis. Methods: The isometric muscle strength of quadriceps was prospectivelymeasured at the hospital discharge in 90 consecutive CHF patients,63 males and 27 females aged 67.9 ± 12.6 yrs, which wasexpressed as % body weight (%BW). Cardiovascular mortality wasanalyzed with a proportional-hazards models based on cardiovascularrisk factors including age, medications, brain natriuretic peptide,estimated glomerular filtration rate and left ventricular ejectionfraction. Results: During the follow-up period of 340±240 days,9 patients died of cardiovascular events. The relation betweenquadriceps strength and event free survival rate is shown inFigure. Patients who had lower quadriceps strength had significantlylower survival, and their mortality risk was increased by 2.67-foldper 10 %BW decrease (95% confidence interval: 1.06 to 6.67,P<0.05). Patients with <30%BW of quadriceps strength hada 12.85-fold higher mortality risk as compared with those with40%BW. The two-year mortality rate indicated by quadriceps strengthof <30%BW was 51%. Conclusion: A Quadriceps strength of <30%BW indicated a poorprognosis in patients with CHF. Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA ________________________________ From: Ed White <kitesurfer257@...> Supertraining Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 9:09:11 AM Subject: Re: Couple of interesting studies I hope these studies considered causality properly. For example, does decreased quad strength lead to earlier death, or does poor health and aging lead to decreased quad strength and also mean you are closer to the end? This also begs the question " can increasing quad strength lengthen lifespan " ? Ed White Sandwich MA USA From: Flory <daflory@...> Subject: Couple of interesting studies Supertraining Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:24 AM 1 Swallow, beth B., et al, " Quadriceps strength predicts mortality in patients with moderate to severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, " Thorax2007;62:115-120 2 Kamiya, Kentaro, et al, " Decreased Strength of Quadriceps Increases the Risk of Mortality... " Circulation 2010;122:A12709 Couple of studies some might find interesting, particularly pertinent, I think, to the recent discussion of elder training. Fair winds and happy bytes, Dave Flory, Flower Mound, TX, U.S.A. -- Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Both studies, for which I provided an abstract in the previous postings, indicate that poor quad strength indicates a poor prognosis. I one study it was in patients with severe respiratory problems and in the other patiets with cardiac problems. The poor quad strength was not a contributor to poor outcome but rather an prognostic indicator of poor outcome. Having dealt with patients in both conditions their poor health precludes any significant exercise and as a result they suffer from cachexia. Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA ________________________________ From: Ralph Giarnella <ragiarn@...> Supertraining Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:43:38 PM Subject: Re: Couple of interesting studies Quadriceps strength predicts mortality in patients with moderate to severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease + Author Affiliations 1. 1Respiratory Muscle Laboratory, Royal Brompton Hospital, London, UK 2. 2Respiratory Muscle Laboratory, King’s College London School of Medicine, Strand, London, UK 3. 3Department of Biostatistics and Medical Informatics, Hôspital Saint-Louis, Paris, France 1. Correspondence to: Dr E B Swallow Respiratory Muscle Laboratory, Royal Brompton Hospital, Fulham Road, London SW3 6NP, UK; e.swallow@... * Received 8 March 2006 * Accepted 9 September 2006 * Published Online First 7 November 2006 Abstract Background: Prognosis in chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is poorly predicted by indices of air flow obstruction, because other factors that reflect the systemic nature of the disease also influence prognosis. Objective: To test the hypothesis that a reduction in quadriceps maximal voluntary contraction force (QMVC) is a useful predictor of mortality in patients with COPD. Methods: A mortality questionnaire was sent to the primary care physician of 184 patients with COPD who had undergone quadriceps strength measurement over the past 5 years. QMVC was expressed as a percentage of the patient’s body mass index. The end point measured was death or lung transplantation, and median (range) follow-up was 38 (1–54) months. Results: Data were obtained for 162 patients (108 men and 54 women) with a mean (SD) percentage of forced expiratory volume in 1 s (FEV1) predicted of 35.6 (16.2), giving a response rate of 88%. Transplant-free survival of the cohort was 93.5% at 1 year and 87.1% at 2 years. regression models showed that the mortality risk increased with increasing age and with reducing QMVC. Only age (HR 1.72 (95% CI 1.14 to 2.6); p = 0.01) and QMVC (HR 0.91 (95% CI 0.83 to 0.99); p = 0.036) continued to be significant predictors of mortality when controlled for other variables in the multivariate analysis. Conclusion: QMVC is simple and provides more powerful prognostic information on COPD than that provided by age, body mass index and forced expiratory volume in 1 s. Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct. USA ________________________________ From: Ed White <kitesurfer257@...> Supertraining Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 9:09:11 AM Subject: Re: Couple of interesting studies I hope these studies considered causality properly. For example, does decreased quad strength lead to earlier death, or does poor health and aging lead to decreased quad strength and also mean you are closer to the end? This also begs the question " can increasing quad strength lengthen lifespan " ? Ed White Sandwich MA USA From: Flory <daflory@...> Subject: Couple of interesting studies Supertraining Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:24 AM 1 Swallow, beth B., et al, " Quadriceps strength predicts mortality in patients with moderate to severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, " Thorax2007;62:115-120 2 Kamiya, Kentaro, et al, " Decreased Strength of Quadriceps Increases the Risk of Mortality... " Circulation 2010;122:A12709 Couple of studies some might find interesting, particularly pertinent, I think, to the recent discussion of elder training. Fair winds and happy bytes, Dave Flory, Flower Mound, TX, U.S.A. -- Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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