Guest guest Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 And they can't say no?CE Grim MDOn Apr 21, 2012, at 12:57 PM, lk.barns wrote: Did you know that they are starting to use lawyers as test subjects for medical research - they found that there were some things that a lab rat just wouldn't do. Sorry, I couldn't resist - Dr. Grim's comment brought to mind an old joke told by a young lawyer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > We meant yesterday afternoon when they "released" me. And > > I will > > > > > > > share a little here but I actually know little more than > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word Dr. M. used is " 17-Hydroxy-steroids." 5 min. > > summary is > > > > > > > here…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as far as I got before I literally ran out of gas > > last > > > > > > > night! I woke up 4 hrs later, went to bed and now it is 5 > > am and I > > > > > > > will finish that thought! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the patent info: 17-Hydroxy-steroids > > > > > > > Patent 4898694 Issued on February 6, 1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This invention relates to novel steroids and more > > particularly to > > > > > > > androsterone derivatives useful as anti-cancer, anti- > > obesity, anti- > > > > > > > diabetic, and hypolipidemic agents and useful for combatting > > > > > > > coronary diseases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm early in understanding but it appears this or a > > mutation is > > > > > > > suspected to be in my gene pool./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, 3d try and I will send this today whether or not I > > get it > > > > > > > finished! I don't know much more since I spent last night > > in the ER. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I knew early that they were investigating > > hyperaldosteronism as a > > > > > > > "masking" condition and were more concerned about what was > > hiding > > > > > > > behind it. They were quite surprised when I used the term > > CYP11B1 > > > > > > > because this is apparently a close relative of Cortisol. > > That is > > > > > > > likely why Spironolactone is not right in this condition. > > When there > > > > > > > is already an excess cort issue and the action of spiro > > increases it > > > > > > > more it becomes a "DOUBLE WHAMMY"! Sorry for the technical > > jargon, > > > > > > > I'll work on the complete answer, maybe! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll send this now before I get distracted again. I still > > need to > > > > > > > figure out where this trip is headed but am honored to > > have a front > > > > > > > row seat! We'll need to decide how much you want to know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Of course they CAN say no - but if the " Cheese " is tempting will they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We meant yesterday afternoon when they " released " me. > > And > > > > I will > > > > > > > > > share a little here but I actually know little more than > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word Dr. M. used is " 17-Hydroxy-steroids. " 5 min. > > > > summary is > > > > > > > > > here…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as far as I got before I literally ran out of > > gas > > > > last > > > > > > > > > night! I woke up 4 hrs later, went to bed and now it > > is 5 > > > > am and I > > > > > > > > > will finish that thought! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the patent info: 17-Hydroxy-steroids > > > > > > > > > Patent 4898694 Issued on February 6, 1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This invention relates to novel steroids and more > > > > particularly to > > > > > > > > > androsterone derivatives useful as anti-cancer, anti- > > > > obesity, anti- > > > > > > > > > diabetic, and hypolipidemic agents and useful for > > combatting > > > > > > > > > coronary diseases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm early in understanding but it appears this or a > > > > mutation is > > > > > > > > > suspected to be in my gene pool./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, 3d try and I will send this today whether or not I > > > > get it > > > > > > > > > finished! I don't know much more since I spent last > > night > > > > in the ER. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I knew early that they were investigating > > > > hyperaldosteronism as a > > > > > > > > > " masking " condition and were more concerned about what > > was > > > > hiding > > > > > > > > > behind it. They were quite surprised when I used the > > term > > > > CYP11B1 > > > > > > > > > because this is apparently a close relative of Cortisol. > > > > That is > > > > > > > > > likely why Spironolactone is not right in this > > condition. > > > > When there > > > > > > > > > is already an excess cort issue and the action of spiro > > > > increases it > > > > > > > > > more it becomes a " DOUBLE WHAMMY " ! Sorry for the > > technical > > > > jargon, > > > > > > > > > I'll work on the complete answer, maybe! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll send this now before I get distracted again. I > > still > > > > need to > > > > > > > > > figure out where this trip is headed but am honored to > > > > have a front > > > > > > > > > row seat! We'll need to decide how much you want to > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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