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Hey I'll give you one of mine straight up.....NO TRADE LOL.

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hmmmmmm nah but thanks. it would slow down my hearing having to get a new lawyer trained and all. lol. thanks anyway dAllan W Anger Jr <allananger@...> wrote: Hey I'll give you one of mine straight up.....NO TRADE LOL. Allan with 2 L's likes the Law doesn't like Lawyers LAWYERS grrr...did any of you know that our foggy memory andfoggy thinking is NOT RELATED TO HEP!! Thats wat i wastold.geeeez. can i trade lawyers..__________________________________________________

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What

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grrr...did any of you know that our foggy memory and

foggy thinking is NOT RELATED TO HEP!! Thats wat i

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told.geeeez. can i trade lawyers..

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She eluded to me faking.. I told her I wish I was faking because if I was then when I got off the phone I would not be hurtin so bad I spend half the evening in tears, I would not need to take all the pills I take daily. If I was willing to lie I would have been on state assistance all these years. And if I was faking I WOULD NOT NEED HER. I wish I was faking. Later she said sorry I was pushing you like they will......GRRRRR Motley <dmotley@...> wrote: What is it related to, according to your expert? De -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf

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memory andfoggy thinking is NOT RELATED TO HEP!! Thats wat i wastold.geeeez. can i trade lawyers..

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And they can't say no?CE Grim MDOn Apr 21, 2012, at 12:57 PM, lk.barns wrote: Did you know that they are starting to use lawyers as test subjects for medical research - they found that there were some things that a lab rat just wouldn't do. Sorry, I couldn't resist - Dr. Grim's comment brought to mind an old joke told by a young lawyer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > We meant yesterday afternoon when they "released" me. And > > I will > > > > > > > share a little here but I actually know little more than > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word Dr. M. used is " 17-Hydroxy-steroids." 5 min. > > summary is > > > > > > > here…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as far as I got before I literally ran out of gas > > last > > > > > > > night! I woke up 4 hrs later, went to bed and now it is 5 > > am and I > > > > > > > will finish that thought! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the patent info: 17-Hydroxy-steroids > > > > > > > Patent 4898694 Issued on February 6, 1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This invention relates to novel steroids and more > > particularly to > > > > > > > androsterone derivatives useful as anti-cancer, anti- > > obesity, anti- > > > > > > > diabetic, and hypolipidemic agents and useful for combatting > > > > > > > coronary diseases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm early in understanding but it appears this or a > > mutation is > > > > > > > suspected to be in my gene pool./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, 3d try and I will send this today whether or not I > > get it > > > > > > > finished! I don't know much more since I spent last night > > in the ER. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I knew early that they were investigating > > hyperaldosteronism as a > > > > > > > "masking" condition and were more concerned about what was > > hiding > > > > > > > behind it. They were quite surprised when I used the term > > CYP11B1 > > > > > > > because this is apparently a close relative of Cortisol. > > That is > > > > > > > likely why Spironolactone is not right in this condition. > > When there > > > > > > > is already an excess cort issue and the action of spiro > > increases it > > > > > > > more it becomes a "DOUBLE WHAMMY"! Sorry for the technical > > jargon, > > > > > > > I'll work on the complete answer, maybe! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll send this now before I get distracted again. I still > > need to > > > > > > > figure out where this trip is headed but am honored to > > have a front > > > > > > > row seat! We'll need to decide how much you want to know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Now you are getting into an ethical issue with research. If one makes participation too attractive it is considered inducement and unethical. Same reason one can no longer do research in prisons. CE Grim MDOn Apr 22, 2012, at 2:33 PM, lk.barns wrote: Of course they CAN say no - but if the "Cheese" is tempting will they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We meant yesterday afternoon when they "released" me. > > And > > > > I will > > > > > > > > > share a little here but I actually know little more than > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word Dr. M. used is " 17-Hydroxy-steroids." 5 min. > > > > summary is > > > > > > > > > here…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as far as I got before I literally ran out of > > gas > > > > last > > > > > > > > > night! I woke up 4 hrs later, went to bed and now it > > is 5 > > > > am and I > > > > > > > > > will finish that thought! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the patent info: 17-Hydroxy-steroids > > > > > > > > > Patent 4898694 Issued on February 6, 1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This invention relates to novel steroids and more > > > > particularly to > > > > > > > > > androsterone derivatives useful as anti-cancer, anti- > > > > obesity, anti- > > > > > > > > > diabetic, and hypolipidemic agents and useful for > > combatting > > > > > > > > > coronary diseases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm early in understanding but it appears this or a > > > > mutation is > > > > > > > > > suspected to be in my gene pool./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, 3d try and I will send this today whether or not I > > > > get it > > > > > > > > > finished! I don't know much more since I spent last > > night > > > > in the ER. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I knew early that they were investigating > > > > hyperaldosteronism as a > > > > > > > > > "masking" condition and were more concerned about what > > was > > > > hiding > > > > > > > > > behind it. They were quite surprised when I used the > > term > > > > CYP11B1 > > > > > > > > > because this is apparently a close relative of Cortisol. > > > > That is > > > > > > > > > likely why Spironolactone is not right in this > > condition. > > > > When there > > > > > > > > > is already an excess cort issue and the action of spiro > > > > increases it > > > > > > > > > more it becomes a "DOUBLE WHAMMY"! Sorry for the > > technical > > > > jargon, > > > > > > > > > I'll work on the complete answer, maybe! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll send this now before I get distracted again. I > > still > > > > need to > > > > > > > > > figure out where this trip is headed but am honored to > > > > have a front > > > > > > > > > row seat! We'll need to decide how much you want to > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >