Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

[Guest guest]

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive!  You get so offended by anything anymore.  Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????You're doing great.  I said that.  I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway.  I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person.  It's relative to their weight.  If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight.  If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.

Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

 

                 Jen

[Guest guest]

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive!  You get so offended by anything anymore.  Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????You're doing great.  I said that.  I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway.  I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person.  It's relative to their weight.  If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight.  If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.

Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

 

                 Jen

[Guest guest]

And for all I know about Carolyn's weight, maybe she is the same exact size as you and this whole conversation is null and void!DarcyOn Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Darcy Ledman <exercise.junkie@...> wrote:

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive!  You get so offended by anything anymore.  Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????

You're doing great.  I said that.  I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway.  I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person.  It's relative to their weight.  If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight.  If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.

Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

 

                 Jen

[Guest guest]

And for all I know about Carolyn's weight, maybe she is the same exact size as you and this whole conversation is null and void!DarcyOn Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Darcy Ledman <exercise.junkie@...> wrote:

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive!  You get so offended by anything anymore.  Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????

You're doing great.  I said that.  I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway.  I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person.  It's relative to their weight.  If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight.  If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.

Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

 

                 Jen

[Guest guest]

You guys have me TOTALLY second-guessing myself here.  I'm trying to research it, but finding very little info!  I hope Tonya can help.  Maybe I am off afterall...............Darcy

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Darcy Ledman <exercise.junkie@...> wrote:

And for all I know about Carolyn's weight, maybe she is the same exact size as you and this whole conversation is null and void!Darcy

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Darcy Ledman <exercise.junkie@...> wrote:

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive!  You get so offended by anything anymore.  Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????

You're doing great.  I said that.  I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway.  I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person.  It's relative to their weight.  If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight.  If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.

Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

 

                 Jen

[Guest guest]

You guys have me TOTALLY second-guessing myself here.  I'm trying to research it, but finding very little info!  I hope Tonya can help.  Maybe I am off afterall...............Darcy

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Darcy Ledman <exercise.junkie@...> wrote:

And for all I know about Carolyn's weight, maybe she is the same exact size as you and this whole conversation is null and void!Darcy

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Darcy Ledman <exercise.junkie@...> wrote:

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive!  You get so offended by anything anymore.  Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????

You're doing great.  I said that.  I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway.  I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person.  It's relative to their weight.  If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight.  If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.

Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

 

                 Jen

[Guest guest]

> That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

actually, it is not! she is saying that you have more muscle

mass than i do and are therefore stronger than i am!

:*carolyn.

[Guest guest]

> That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

actually, it is not! she is saying that you have more muscle

mass than i do and are therefore stronger than i am!

:*carolyn.

[Guest guest]

I don't know if that's what she meant or not but in any case, I'm positive it wasn't meant to be an insult in any way. It is a simple fact that some people weigh more than others, whether it is fat or muscle that is making them weigh more, or simply being taller, it is just a fact, not an insult. If Darcy (or anyone) would have said to me that someone would have an advantage doing a certain exercise just because they have more height (are taller than) me that would be a simple fact, not a backhanded insult. The only reason I can see that I would take a comment like that as an insult would be if I were extremely sensitive about my height (or lack thereof). I'm not... so if anyone wants to talk about exercises that are really difficult or really easy for short people, feel free! ;-)

For those newer to the board... I'm not quite 5' tall... I come in at 4'11 3/4" (and yeah, that 3/4" means a lot to me)!

Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

> That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!actually, it is not! she is saying that you have more muscle mass than i do and are therefore stronger than i am!:*carolyn.

[Guest guest]

I don't know if that's what she meant or not but in any case, I'm positive it wasn't meant to be an insult in any way. It is a simple fact that some people weigh more than others, whether it is fat or muscle that is making them weigh more, or simply being taller, it is just a fact, not an insult. If Darcy (or anyone) would have said to me that someone would have an advantage doing a certain exercise just because they have more height (are taller than) me that would be a simple fact, not a backhanded insult. The only reason I can see that I would take a comment like that as an insult would be if I were extremely sensitive about my height (or lack thereof). I'm not... so if anyone wants to talk about exercises that are really difficult or really easy for short people, feel free! ;-)

For those newer to the board... I'm not quite 5' tall... I come in at 4'11 3/4" (and yeah, that 3/4" means a lot to me)!

Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

> That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!actually, it is not! she is saying that you have more muscle mass than i do and are therefore stronger than i am!:*carolyn.

[Guest guest]

Ditto on the first part.

I'm saying what I think at this point, WITHOUT intending to be nasty or fight with you, Jen. I'm stating my own feelings, which are just as important as yours. I find it difficult to have worthwhile discussions when I'm concerned anything I write will be misinterpreted as an insult and that I will be "called out" as a "mean" person with the insulted party assuming I meant something terrible, attacking me in their reply. I'd really prefer that if I've offended you or anyone else, that I be addressed in a respectful way, expecting the best from me instead of the worst, telling me what I've done, how you feel and giving me an opportunity to make amends instead of attacking me and leaving me with few options for respectful replies except to hit delete and ignore the comments. I do not intend to be nasty or a troublemaker with this post, nor have I ever done so before (though I'm sure I've been guilty of sarcasm from time to time but I don't think it was at any individual's expense and I apologize right now if it was). I'm quite positive Darcy isn't doing so either which is the main reason why I wanted to write this now.

As for the explanation, Darcy, that makes sense to me. A person who weighs 1,000 pounds lifting 400 pounds would find it easier than a 500 pound person would to lift 400 pounds. I'm not implying it would necessarily be "easy" for a 1,000 lbs. person to lift 500 lbs. either but I can see how it would be less difficult for that person than it would be for the 400 lbs. person.

Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive! You get so offended by anything anymore. Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????You're doing great. I said that. I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway. I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person. It's relative to their weight. If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight. If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

Jen

[Guest guest]

Ditto on the first part.

I'm saying what I think at this point, WITHOUT intending to be nasty or fight with you, Jen. I'm stating my own feelings, which are just as important as yours. I find it difficult to have worthwhile discussions when I'm concerned anything I write will be misinterpreted as an insult and that I will be "called out" as a "mean" person with the insulted party assuming I meant something terrible, attacking me in their reply. I'd really prefer that if I've offended you or anyone else, that I be addressed in a respectful way, expecting the best from me instead of the worst, telling me what I've done, how you feel and giving me an opportunity to make amends instead of attacking me and leaving me with few options for respectful replies except to hit delete and ignore the comments. I do not intend to be nasty or a troublemaker with this post, nor have I ever done so before (though I'm sure I've been guilty of sarcasm from time to time but I don't think it was at any individual's expense and I apologize right now if it was). I'm quite positive Darcy isn't doing so either which is the main reason why I wanted to write this now.

As for the explanation, Darcy, that makes sense to me. A person who weighs 1,000 pounds lifting 400 pounds would find it easier than a 500 pound person would to lift 400 pounds. I'm not implying it would necessarily be "easy" for a 1,000 lbs. person to lift 500 lbs. either but I can see how it would be less difficult for that person than it would be for the 400 lbs. person.

Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive! You get so offended by anything anymore. Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????You're doing great. I said that. I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway. I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person. It's relative to their weight. If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight. If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

Jen

[Guest guest]

Thank you .  Yes, you explained it well.  Yes, of course I didn't mean to " backhand Jen " .  I was trying to help Carolyn out in her thoughts on why she wasn't lifting heavy.  I am so opposite of Jen in regards to being sensitive, so I guess I'm really baffled as to how that remark could even be a little bit 'backhanded " at you Jen?  I think it would have been much more rude of me to " bite my tongue " and let Carolyn think she's a wimp because she's not lifting as heavy as you... when I sit here thinking I know why she may not be??  Should someone else's feelings be put after your's?  I can't see you believing that I shouldn't have said a word and let Carolyn think that w/out sharing my experience?  I didn't think what I said was rude at all.  No one's feeling deserve to be hurt, and I surely didn't intend that.

Please try to lighten up.  I don't mean that in a harsh way, I just know that there has been more than one occasion when you have issues with what someone has wrote, where the rest of us (safely assuming) don't see what you are saying.  We all love you Jen, we want you to succeed.  You need to put your dukes DOWN, and stop being so defensive.  That's just what it seems to be you do a lot.  You wait or look for someone to say anything that could be remotely against you or just taken wrong, and then pounce.   If anyone says something that could be taken wrong in any way, it seems you do.  Please lighten up, and let stuff go.  No one is here to intentionally hurt you.  We're all on the same side....

DarcyOn Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:18 PM, <nancydewolf@...> wrote:

Ditto on the first part.

 

I'm saying what I think at this point, WITHOUT intending to be nasty or fight with you, Jen. I'm stating my own feelings, which are just as important as yours. I find it difficult to have worthwhile discussions when I'm concerned anything I write will be misinterpreted as an insult and that I will be " called out " as a " mean " person with the insulted party assuming I meant something terrible, attacking me in their reply. I'd really prefer that if I've offended you or anyone else, that I be addressed in a respectful way, expecting the best from me instead of the worst, telling me what I've done, how you feel and giving me an opportunity to make amends instead of attacking me and leaving me with few options for respectful replies except to hit delete and ignore the comments. I do not intend to be nasty or a troublemaker with this post, nor have I ever done so before (though I'm sure I've been guilty of sarcasm from time to time but I don't think it was at any individual's expense and I apologize right now if it was). I'm quite positive Darcy isn't doing so either which is the main reason why I wanted to write this now.

 

As for the explanation, Darcy, that makes sense to me. A person who weighs 1,000 pounds lifting 400 pounds would find it easier than a 500 pound person would to lift 400 pounds. I'm not implying it would necessarily be " easy " for a 1,000 lbs. person to lift 500 lbs. either but I can see how it would be less difficult for that person than it would be for the 400 lbs. person. 

 

 

Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive!  You get so offended by anything anymore.  Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????You're doing great.  I said that.  I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway.  I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person.  It's relative to their weight.  If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight.  If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

 

                 Jen

[Guest guest]

Thank you .  Yes, you explained it well.  Yes, of course I didn't mean to " backhand Jen " .  I was trying to help Carolyn out in her thoughts on why she wasn't lifting heavy.  I am so opposite of Jen in regards to being sensitive, so I guess I'm really baffled as to how that remark could even be a little bit 'backhanded " at you Jen?  I think it would have been much more rude of me to " bite my tongue " and let Carolyn think she's a wimp because she's not lifting as heavy as you... when I sit here thinking I know why she may not be??  Should someone else's feelings be put after your's?  I can't see you believing that I shouldn't have said a word and let Carolyn think that w/out sharing my experience?  I didn't think what I said was rude at all.  No one's feeling deserve to be hurt, and I surely didn't intend that.

Please try to lighten up.  I don't mean that in a harsh way, I just know that there has been more than one occasion when you have issues with what someone has wrote, where the rest of us (safely assuming) don't see what you are saying.  We all love you Jen, we want you to succeed.  You need to put your dukes DOWN, and stop being so defensive.  That's just what it seems to be you do a lot.  You wait or look for someone to say anything that could be remotely against you or just taken wrong, and then pounce.   If anyone says something that could be taken wrong in any way, it seems you do.  Please lighten up, and let stuff go.  No one is here to intentionally hurt you.  We're all on the same side....

DarcyOn Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:18 PM, <nancydewolf@...> wrote:

Ditto on the first part.

 

I'm saying what I think at this point, WITHOUT intending to be nasty or fight with you, Jen. I'm stating my own feelings, which are just as important as yours. I find it difficult to have worthwhile discussions when I'm concerned anything I write will be misinterpreted as an insult and that I will be " called out " as a " mean " person with the insulted party assuming I meant something terrible, attacking me in their reply. I'd really prefer that if I've offended you or anyone else, that I be addressed in a respectful way, expecting the best from me instead of the worst, telling me what I've done, how you feel and giving me an opportunity to make amends instead of attacking me and leaving me with few options for respectful replies except to hit delete and ignore the comments. I do not intend to be nasty or a troublemaker with this post, nor have I ever done so before (though I'm sure I've been guilty of sarcasm from time to time but I don't think it was at any individual's expense and I apologize right now if it was). I'm quite positive Darcy isn't doing so either which is the main reason why I wanted to write this now.

 

As for the explanation, Darcy, that makes sense to me. A person who weighs 1,000 pounds lifting 400 pounds would find it easier than a 500 pound person would to lift 400 pounds. I'm not implying it would necessarily be " easy " for a 1,000 lbs. person to lift 500 lbs. either but I can see how it would be less difficult for that person than it would be for the 400 lbs. person. 

 

 

Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive!  You get so offended by anything anymore.  Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????You're doing great.  I said that.  I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway.  I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person.  It's relative to their weight.  If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight.  If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

 

                 Jen

[Guest guest]

--I'm not... so if anyone wants to talk about exercises that are really

difficult or really easy for short people, feel free! ;-)

this is true! i'm a little under 5'4 " and whenever i was working out at a gym i

never felt i could get the machines adjusted to fit me. i like free weights sooo

much better.

stacey

[Guest guest]

--I'm not... so if anyone wants to talk about exercises that are really

difficult or really easy for short people, feel free! ;-)

this is true! i'm a little under 5'4 " and whenever i was working out at a gym i

never felt i could get the machines adjusted to fit me. i like free weights sooo

much better.

stacey

[Guest guest]

Why do you keep talking about it if you don't want to upset me?

You should be more positive and supportive like Carolyn is instead of telling me how I should take things.

You know it's very easy to misunderstand emails etc..... You don't need to reply to this. I just won't say anything if something bothers me.

And I did find the gowear fit thing but I can't afford it.

Jen

Ditto on the first part.

I'm saying what I think at this point, WITHOUT intending to be nasty or fight with you, Jen. I'm stating my own feelings, which are just as important as yours. I find it difficult to have worthwhile discussions when I'm concerned anything I write will be misinterpreted as an insult and that I will be "called out" as a "mean" person with the insulted party assuming I meant something terrible, attacking me in their reply. I'd really prefer that if I've offended you or anyone else, that I be addressed in a respectful way, expecting the best from me instead of the worst, telling me what I've done, how you feel and giving me an opportunity to make amends instead of attacking me and leaving me with few options for respectful replies except to hit delete and ignore the comments. I do not intend to be nasty or a troublemaker with this post, nor

have I ever done so before (though I'm sure I've been guilty of sarcasm from time to time but I don't think it was at any individual's expense and I apologize right now if it was). I'm quite positive Darcy isn't doing so either which is the main reason why I wanted to write this now.

As for the explanation, Darcy, that makes sense to me. A person who weighs 1,000 pounds lifting 400 pounds would find it easier than a 500 pound person would to lift 400 pounds. I'm not implying it would necessarily be "easy" for a 1,000 lbs. person to lift 500 lbs. either but I can see how it would be less difficult for that person than it would be for the 400 lbs. person.

Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive! You get so offended by anything anymore. Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????You're doing great. I said that. I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway. I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person. It's relative to their weight. If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight. If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

Jen

[Guest guest]

Why do you keep talking about it if you don't want to upset me?

You should be more positive and supportive like Carolyn is instead of telling me how I should take things.

You know it's very easy to misunderstand emails etc..... You don't need to reply to this. I just won't say anything if something bothers me.

And I did find the gowear fit thing but I can't afford it.

Jen

Ditto on the first part.

I'm saying what I think at this point, WITHOUT intending to be nasty or fight with you, Jen. I'm stating my own feelings, which are just as important as yours. I find it difficult to have worthwhile discussions when I'm concerned anything I write will be misinterpreted as an insult and that I will be "called out" as a "mean" person with the insulted party assuming I meant something terrible, attacking me in their reply. I'd really prefer that if I've offended you or anyone else, that I be addressed in a respectful way, expecting the best from me instead of the worst, telling me what I've done, how you feel and giving me an opportunity to make amends instead of attacking me and leaving me with few options for respectful replies except to hit delete and ignore the comments. I do not intend to be nasty or a troublemaker with this post, nor

have I ever done so before (though I'm sure I've been guilty of sarcasm from time to time but I don't think it was at any individual's expense and I apologize right now if it was). I'm quite positive Darcy isn't doing so either which is the main reason why I wanted to write this now.

As for the explanation, Darcy, that makes sense to me. A person who weighs 1,000 pounds lifting 400 pounds would find it easier than a 500 pound person would to lift 400 pounds. I'm not implying it would necessarily be "easy" for a 1,000 lbs. person to lift 500 lbs. either but I can see how it would be less difficult for that person than it would be for the 400 lbs. person.

Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive! You get so offended by anything anymore. Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????You're doing great. I said that. I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway. I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person. It's relative to their weight. If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight. If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

Jen

[Guest guest]

I'm 5 foot on a good day so I know what you mean about fitting in those machines!

Jen

From: Stacey Brennan-Melvin <billsgirl93@...>Subject: Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09 Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 9:13 PM

--I'm not... so if anyone wants to talk about exercises that are really difficult or really easy for short people, feel free! ;-)this is true! i'm a little under 5'4" and whenever i was working out at a gym i never felt i could get the machines adjusted to fit me. i like free weights sooo much better.stacey

[Guest guest]

I'm 5 foot on a good day so I know what you mean about fitting in those machines!

Jen

From: Stacey Brennan-Melvin <billsgirl93@...>Subject: Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09 Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 9:13 PM

--I'm not... so if anyone wants to talk about exercises that are really difficult or really easy for short people, feel free! ;-)this is true! i'm a little under 5'4" and whenever i was working out at a gym i never felt i could get the machines adjusted to fit me. i like free weights sooo much better.stacey

[Guest guest]

I thought I was explaining more Jen.  Good Gawd!You're right.  Enough is said.  I'm not wasting my time anymore with it.Also, please don't tell me how I " should " be.Darcy

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:20 PM, from Michigan <volleyjen0416@...> wrote:

   Why do you keep talking about it if you don't want to upset me? 

 

You should be more positive and supportive like Carolyn is instead of telling me how I should take things. 

 

You know it's very easy to misunderstand emails etc.....  You don't need to reply to this.  I just won't say anything if something bothers me.

 

 

Ditto on the first part.

 

I'm saying what I think at this point, WITHOUT intending to be nasty or fight with you, Jen. I'm stating my own feelings, which are just as important as yours. I find it difficult to have worthwhile discussions when I'm concerned anything I write will be misinterpreted as an insult and that I will be " called out " as a " mean " person with the insulted party assuming I meant something terrible, attacking me in their reply. I'd really prefer that if I've offended you or anyone else, that I be addressed in a respectful way, expecting the best from me instead of the worst, telling me what I've done, how you feel and giving me an opportunity to make amends instead of attacking me and leaving me with few options for respectful replies except to hit delete and ignore the comments. I do not intend to be nasty or a troublemaker with this post, nor

have I ever done so before (though I'm sure I've been guilty of sarcasm from time to time but I don't think it was at any individual's expense and I apologize right now if it was). I'm quite positive Darcy isn't doing so either which is the main reason why I wanted to write this now.

 

As for the explanation, Darcy, that makes sense to me. A person who weighs 1,000 pounds lifting 400 pounds would find it easier than a 500 pound person would to lift 400 pounds. I'm not implying it would necessarily be " easy " for a 1,000 lbs. person to lift 500 lbs. either but I can see how it would be less difficult for that person than it would be for the 400 lbs. person. 

 

 

Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive!  You get so offended by anything anymore.  Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????You're doing great.  I said that.  I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway.  I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person.  It's relative to their weight.  If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight.  If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.

Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

 

                 Jen

[Guest guest]

I thought I was explaining more Jen.  Good Gawd!You're right.  Enough is said.  I'm not wasting my time anymore with it.Also, please don't tell me how I " should " be.Darcy

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:20 PM, from Michigan <volleyjen0416@...> wrote:

   Why do you keep talking about it if you don't want to upset me? 

 

You should be more positive and supportive like Carolyn is instead of telling me how I should take things. 

 

You know it's very easy to misunderstand emails etc.....  You don't need to reply to this.  I just won't say anything if something bothers me.

 

 

Ditto on the first part.

 

I'm saying what I think at this point, WITHOUT intending to be nasty or fight with you, Jen. I'm stating my own feelings, which are just as important as yours. I find it difficult to have worthwhile discussions when I'm concerned anything I write will be misinterpreted as an insult and that I will be " called out " as a " mean " person with the insulted party assuming I meant something terrible, attacking me in their reply. I'd really prefer that if I've offended you or anyone else, that I be addressed in a respectful way, expecting the best from me instead of the worst, telling me what I've done, how you feel and giving me an opportunity to make amends instead of attacking me and leaving me with few options for respectful replies except to hit delete and ignore the comments. I do not intend to be nasty or a troublemaker with this post, nor

have I ever done so before (though I'm sure I've been guilty of sarcasm from time to time but I don't think it was at any individual's expense and I apologize right now if it was). I'm quite positive Darcy isn't doing so either which is the main reason why I wanted to write this now.

 

As for the explanation, Darcy, that makes sense to me. A person who weighs 1,000 pounds lifting 400 pounds would find it easier than a 500 pound person would to lift 400 pounds. I'm not implying it would necessarily be " easy " for a 1,000 lbs. person to lift 500 lbs. either but I can see how it would be less difficult for that person than it would be for the 400 lbs. person. 

 

 

Re: Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09

Oh come on Jen, you are WAY too sensitive!  You get so offended by anything anymore.  Why do I find that I have to bite my tongue ever so much as to not upset you????You're doing great.  I said that.  I did not, NOR DID I slam you in anyway.  I'm just saying for a heavier person to lift said amount of weight, is going to be easier STRENGTH wise than for a smaller person.  It's relative to their weight.  If you took a heavier person's weight and did the math, you would find out that they are lifting x percent of their body weight.  If you did the math with someone smaller, they would need to be lifting less in order to have the same challenge.

Make sense?Darcy

That's sort of a back handed cut down to me!

 

                 Jen

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Nice weights, Jen!On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM, from Michigan <volleyjen0416@...> wrote:

Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09Today I did CLX's Push Circuit 1 - 32.52 minutes.

I used the following weights for these exercises:

STANDARD BICEP CURL 15 LBSSTANDARD SQUAT 20 LBS

SINGLE-ARM BENT-OVER TRICEP EXTENSIONS 11 LBSV-PRESS BICEPS 11 LBS

GET EXTREME - BICEPS 11 LBSSINGLE-LEG SQUATS 20 LBS (this was almost too heavy but I stuck with it and did ALL 8 reps on both legs!) AND GET EXTREME SINGLE-LEG SQUATS with 20 LBS

OVERHEAD TRICEP EXTENSION 10 LBSGET EXTREME -OVERHEAD TRICEP EXTENSIONS 10 LBS

HAMMER BICEPS 12 LBSGET EXTREME - HAMMER BICEPS 12 LBS

HEEL SQUATS 20 LBSGET EXTREME - HEEL SQUATS 20 LBS

PUSH-UPS 4 ON KNEESGET EXTREME - UPS 3 ON KNEES

I also went to my pool and did water exercise and swam for 40 minutes!

Then I had my bowling league - 1 hour           Jen

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Nice weights, Jen!On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM, from Michigan <volleyjen0416@...> wrote:

Jen's exercise for Thursday 06/18/09Today I did CLX's Push Circuit 1 - 32.52 minutes.

I used the following weights for these exercises:

STANDARD BICEP CURL 15 LBSSTANDARD SQUAT 20 LBS

SINGLE-ARM BENT-OVER TRICEP EXTENSIONS 11 LBSV-PRESS BICEPS 11 LBS

GET EXTREME - BICEPS 11 LBSSINGLE-LEG SQUATS 20 LBS (this was almost too heavy but I stuck with it and did ALL 8 reps on both legs!) AND GET EXTREME SINGLE-LEG SQUATS with 20 LBS

OVERHEAD TRICEP EXTENSION 10 LBSGET EXTREME -OVERHEAD TRICEP EXTENSIONS 10 LBS

HAMMER BICEPS 12 LBSGET EXTREME - HAMMER BICEPS 12 LBS

HEEL SQUATS 20 LBSGET EXTREME - HEEL SQUATS 20 LBS

PUSH-UPS 4 ON KNEESGET EXTREME - UPS 3 ON KNEES

I also went to my pool and did water exercise and swam for 40 minutes!

Then I had my bowling league - 1 hour           Jen

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I can't do any of Chalene's Turbo Jam on the ball stuff because I'm too short.

Which I find funny because Chalene is short. I'm 5'3 and I have the SHORT person

ball. Maybe my legs are just funky.

But seriously though folks, I know most of you don't know this but I've actually

been a member of this group for years - I come and go because my job is 60 plus

hours at times (I just got home from work)...but I have " left " before because

people couldn't give advice or support without having to walk on glass. I was

one of those people who got their butt chewed for trying to be supportive

through emails to my own account.

Exercise isn't easy and fitness is about body mechanics and mind mechanics. You

have to look at everything, your mental state, your physical state, your will

power, your motivation...everything and examine it under a harsh light. Why are

you not where you want to be? Or for those who are fit, what is it going to take

to improve? We are breaking down the most sensitive and personal areas of our

lives...we have to. Without examining why we don't succeed or why we can't do a

bicep curl at the same time as we lunge -we won't grow.

We can't grow as a group in fitness unless we can feel free to have an open

discussion about the physics of exercise (yes and it IS physics), the mental

readiness of weight loss and the emotions (high and low) of the journey.

You have to trust that others do have your best interests at heart and might be

supportive if they weren't afraid to speak.

P

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> --I'm not... so if anyone wants to talk about exercises that are really

difficult or really easy for short people, feel free! ;-)

>

> this is true! i'm a little under 5'4 " and whenever i was working out at a gym

i never felt i could get the machines adjusted to fit me. i like free weights

sooo much better.

> stacey

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