Guest guest Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 I've never really used massage as a recovery tool. I have been to my sports medicine doctor when something is injured or hurting. Most of the time my sports medicine doctor sends me to a physical therapist for some chiropractic and physical therapy to get me back to lifting shape. I wouldn't know if sports massage is helpful or not but a lot of professional athletes use sports massage. Powerlifters have to keep their bodies tight. Yoga bodies don't do well in powerlifting. Too much flexibility and powerlifters can't lift well. There is a book by Pavel Tsatuoline(spelling?) that offers a stretching program for powerlifters who are concerned with increasing their squat, deadlift, and bench press while remaining injury free. Edwin Freeman, Jr. San Francisco, USA In a message dated 6/15/2010 10:34:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, deadliftdiva@... writes: My initial response here is they've taken a poor subject for evaluation in forearm with 40 percent of voluntary max grip - how often do we stand there and hold onto something, statically?? Unless I see something along the lines of massage inhibiting recovery in max lifts with say, hamstrings, quads, or erectors/traps/lats, I really don't think it's worth the read. I also can't believe they're measuring " lactic acid " removal as a standard either - haven't we already been over this myth of " lactic acid removal " to the point of exhaustion and the reality that we don't really WANT " removal " - and that it's lactate and energy systems, not " waste " ? Depending on how deep the massage is by the way, effleurage/petrissage can be very light and superficial or you can go deeper and yes, increase inflammation and that would increase the circulation... hmmm. anyway, that's my take on this one. my own experience is that massage helps considerably. The Phantom aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter Denver, Colorado, USA Massage Impairs Postexercise Muscle Blood Flow and " Lactic Acid " Removal Supertraining Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 3:42 AM The below may be of interest: Massage Impairs Postexercise Muscle Blood Flow and " Lactic Acid " Removal WILTSHIRE, E. VICTORIA; POITRAS, VERONICA; PAK, MELISSA; HONG, TERENCE; RAYNER, JAY; TSCHAKOVSKY, MICHAEL E. Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise: June 2010 - Volume 42 - Issue 6 - pp 1062-1071 doi: 10.1249/MSS.0b013e3181c9214f Abstract Purpose: This study tested the hypothesis that one of the ways sports massage aids muscle recovery from exercise is by increasing muscle blood flow to improve " lactic acid " removal. Methods: Twelve subjects performed 2 min of strenuous isometric handgrip (IHG) exercise at 40% maximum voluntary contraction to elevate forearm muscle lactic acid. Forearm blood flow (FBF; Doppler and Echo ultrasound of the brachial artery) and deep venous forearm blood lactate and H+ concentration ([La & #8722;], [H+]) were measured every minute for 10 min post-IHG under three conditions: passive (passive rest), active (rhythmic exercise at 10% maximum voluntary contraction), and massage (effleurage and pétrissage). Arterialized [La & #8722;] and [H+] from a superficial heated hand vein was measured at baseline. Results: Data are presented as mean ± SE. Venoarterial [La & #8722;] difference ([La & #8722;]v & #8722;a) at 30 s of post-IHG was the same across conditions (passive = 6.1 ± 0.6 mmol·L & #8722;1, active = 5.7 ± 0.6 mmol·L & #8722;1, massage = 5.5 ± 0.6 mmol·L & #8722;1, NS), whereas FBF was greater in passive (766 ± 101 mL·min & #8722;1) versus active (614 ± 62 mL·min & #8722;1, P = 0.003) versus massage (540 ± 60 mL·min & #8722;1, P < 0.0001). Total FBF area under the curve (AUC) for 10 min after handgrip was significantly higher in passive versus massage (4203 ± 531 vs 3178 ± 304 mL, P = 0.024) but not versus active (3584 ± 284 mL, P = 0.217). La & #8722; efflux (FBF × [La & #8722;]v & #8722;a) AUC mirrored FBF AUC (passive = 20.5 ± 2.8 mmol vs massage = 14.7 ± 1.6 mmol, P = 0.03, vs active = 15.4 ± 1.9 mmol, P = 0.064). H+ efflux (FBF × [H+]v & #8722;a) was greater in passive versus massage at 30 s (2.2 ± 0.4e & #8722;5 vs 1.3 ± 0.2e & #8722;5 mmol, P < 0.001) and 1.5 min (1.0 ± 0.2e & #8722;5 vs 0.6 ± 0.09e & #8722;5 mmol, P = 0.003) after IHG. Conclusions: Massage impairs La & #8722; and H+ removal from muscle after strenuous exercise by mechanically impeding blood flow. =================== Carruthers Wakefield, UK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Modify/cancel your subscription at: mygroups Sign all letters with full name & city of residence if you wish them to be published! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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