Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Yep!!!! (nodding my head vigorously in agreement) Re: Re: Met with my new client... Well yes. It goes hand in hand. Of course trainers develop a training plan and are there to get you to your fitness goals. But, a lot of clients also come for the motivation. Some come for both. Most of my clients do little to nothing at home, and get their exercise solely with me. It's frustrating..........Darcy On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:27 PM, from Michigan <volleyjen0416 > wrote: I thought trainers were suppose to help you develop a training plan and guide you to your fitness goals. So you REALLY think that most of the people go to Personal Trainers because they don't have motivation to workout unless they go...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. They would use the information to design programs that would strengthen weak areas without causing further harm and/or avoid exercises that could cause injury to sensitive areas. They would also never force you to do anything, period. A trainer might try to push you but there's a big difference between encouraging you to try harder and forcing you to do something. Although trust may not be instantaneous, if you feel uncomfortable with the trainer's technique then you can always quit using him/her. Ideally, you should be able to build up a trusting relationship where that person knows how hard you can be pushed mentally and physically and you know they won't try to get you past that. I would LOVE to be able to work with a trainer. I want to take myself to the "next level" whatever that is and a good trainer would help me by coming up with a program to get me there. I love working out on my own, so I wouldn't want to do it all the time but when I met with that trainer last fall the plan was to meet with her once a week for a few weeks for her to come up with and tweak a program for me and get me comfortable doing it, then I'd check in with her ever few months for another evaluation and tweaking of the plan. I'm really bummed that I can't do it. I'm using the information I got from my initial evaluation but would love to be able to go again sometime. Re: Re: Met with my new client... Really? (about your trainer comment) I thought trainers were suppose to help you develop a training plan and guide you to your fitness goals. So you REALLY think that most of the people go to Personal Trainers because they don't have motivation to workout unless they go...? If I had the money I would go but not for the motivation....I would go to have someone set up a fitness routine for me....I'm not sure I would ever be able to afford it or be able to trust the trainer if I had the money. With my bad knees and feet, I know what I can and can't do so I wouldn't want someone to try and force me into doing something I shouldn't do. Jen I look forward to these sessions a LOT but in reality I'm probably just one of many he does this with but irrationally I want to be his favorite client. OVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. They would use the information to design programs that would strengthen weak areas without causing further harm and/or avoid exercises that could cause injury to sensitive areas. They would also never force you to do anything, period. A trainer might try to push you but there's a big difference between encouraging you to try harder and forcing you to do something. Although trust may not be instantaneous, if you feel uncomfortable with the trainer's technique then you can always quit using him/her. Ideally, you should be able to build up a trusting relationship where that person knows how hard you can be pushed mentally and physically and you know they won't try to get you past that. I would LOVE to be able to work with a trainer. I want to take myself to the "next level" whatever that is and a good trainer would help me by coming up with a program to get me there. I love working out on my own, so I wouldn't want to do it all the time but when I met with that trainer last fall the plan was to meet with her once a week for a few weeks for her to come up with and tweak a program for me and get me comfortable doing it, then I'd check in with her ever few months for another evaluation and tweaking of the plan. I'm really bummed that I can't do it. I'm using the information I got from my initial evaluation but would love to be able to go again sometime. Re: Re: Met with my new client... Really? (about your trainer comment) I thought trainers were suppose to help you develop a training plan and guide you to your fitness goals. So you REALLY think that most of the people go to Personal Trainers because they don't have motivation to workout unless they go...? If I had the money I would go but not for the motivation....I would go to have someone set up a fitness routine for me....I'm not sure I would ever be able to afford it or be able to trust the trainer if I had the money. With my bad knees and feet, I know what I can and can't do so I wouldn't want someone to try and force me into doing something I shouldn't do. Jen I look forward to these sessions a LOT but in reality I'm probably just one of many he does this with but irrationally I want to be his favorite client. OVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Amen !I encourage my clients over and over to SPEAK UP.  If they don't like an exercise, TELL ME. If you want more of a different ecxercise, TELL ME. And guess what, they never do! LOL.. Oh well, makes it easier for me. So far every client I've ever had is easy to please  KNOCK ON WOOD. DarcyOn Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, <nancydewolf@...> wrote: A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Amen !I encourage my clients over and over to SPEAK UP.  If they don't like an exercise, TELL ME. If you want more of a different ecxercise, TELL ME. And guess what, they never do! LOL.. Oh well, makes it easier for me. So far every client I've ever had is easy to please  KNOCK ON WOOD. DarcyOn Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, <nancydewolf@...> wrote: A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Not ALL trainers are good and either way I don't want to spend my money on getting a trainer when I know my own body and I have plenty of ways to exercise. Jen A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Not ALL trainers are good and either way I don't want to spend my money on getting a trainer when I know my own body and I have plenty of ways to exercise. Jen A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Give me a break, Jen. Of course not all are good. I wasn't saying that, I was just pointing out ways to know if you have a good one or not. If you choose not to use their services then don't but please don't put down a profession that does help a great many interested people. Re: Re: Met with my new client... Not ALL trainers are good and either way I don't want to spend my money on getting a trainer when I know my own body and I have plenty of ways to exercise. Jen A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Give me a break, Jen. Of course not all are good. I wasn't saying that, I was just pointing out ways to know if you have a good one or not. If you choose not to use their services then don't but please don't put down a profession that does help a great many interested people. Re: Re: Met with my new client... Not ALL trainers are good and either way I don't want to spend my money on getting a trainer when I know my own body and I have plenty of ways to exercise. Jen A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I can see this. A lot of people think (a) it has to hurt to be worthwhile or ( I don't know anything so I shouldn't seem like I'm trying to "correct" the professional. Then, eventually, they get bored, ticked or injured and quit and blame the trainer when they don't make it the cooperative effort it needs to be. People are like this with doctors and other things too. It doesn't matter how open you are to criticism, input, etc. either, some people just won't. I hope your clients stay easy to please and pleased with your services, I'm sure I would love to work with you! Re: Re: Met with my new client... Amen !I encourage my clients over and over to SPEAK UP. If they don't like an exercise, TELL ME. If you want more of a different ecxercise, TELL ME. And guess what, they never do! LOL.. Oh well, makes it easier for me. So far every client I've ever had is easy to please KNOCK ON WOOD.Darcy On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, <nancydewolfsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I can see this. A lot of people think (a) it has to hurt to be worthwhile or ( I don't know anything so I shouldn't seem like I'm trying to "correct" the professional. Then, eventually, they get bored, ticked or injured and quit and blame the trainer when they don't make it the cooperative effort it needs to be. People are like this with doctors and other things too. It doesn't matter how open you are to criticism, input, etc. either, some people just won't. I hope your clients stay easy to please and pleased with your services, I'm sure I would love to work with you! Re: Re: Met with my new client... Amen !I encourage my clients over and over to SPEAK UP. If they don't like an exercise, TELL ME. If you want more of a different ecxercise, TELL ME. And guess what, they never do! LOL.. Oh well, makes it easier for me. So far every client I've ever had is easy to please KNOCK ON WOOD.Darcy On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, <nancydewolfsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Thanks , we would have an absolute blast!!!That is one thing for me. I don't get new clients very often, but the ones I have stick around for a long time  Darcy On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:21 PM, <nancydewolf@...> wrote: I hope your clients stay easy to please and pleased with your services, I'm sure I would love to work with you!  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Thanks , we would have an absolute blast!!!That is one thing for me. I don't get new clients very often, but the ones I have stick around for a long time  Darcy On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:21 PM, <nancydewolf@...> wrote: I hope your clients stay easy to please and pleased with your services, I'm sure I would love to work with you!  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I think when people get combative against trainers and others who offer genuine tasteful advice on how to get in shape etc...well they just aren't ready to loose the weight emotionally and are self-handicapping themselves. You see it in the gym, on the internet, at work...excuse making and blaming everyone but themselves for their own failures. No one, not even the world's best trainer can help you unless you are really ready to make a change. I struggle with my diet in this aspect. I think I'm not ready to put the work in to journaling. But I only have myself to blame and I need to do some intense thinking on the subject ;-) a > > > > > A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I think when people get combative against trainers and others who offer genuine tasteful advice on how to get in shape etc...well they just aren't ready to loose the weight emotionally and are self-handicapping themselves. You see it in the gym, on the internet, at work...excuse making and blaming everyone but themselves for their own failures. No one, not even the world's best trainer can help you unless you are really ready to make a change. I struggle with my diet in this aspect. I think I'm not ready to put the work in to journaling. But I only have myself to blame and I need to do some intense thinking on the subject ;-) a > > > > > A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I think when people get combative against trainers and others who offer genuine tasteful advice on how to get in shape etc...well they just aren't ready to loose the weight emotionally and are self-handicapping themselves. You see it in the gym, on the internet, at work...excuse making and blaming everyone but themselves for their own failures. No one, not even the world's best trainer can help you unless you are really ready to make a change. I struggle with my diet in this aspect. I think I'm not ready to put the work in to journaling. But I only have myself to blame and I need to do some intense thinking on the subject ;-) a > > > > > A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health information form that includes space to give them information about things like your feet and knees. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 YES, YES, YES!! I'm so fortunate, I have never came across anyone that would point their finger at me. I think they know better, I work them pretty hard :)DarcyOn Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:45 PM, a Frey <paulajfrey@...> wrote: No one, not even the world's best trainer can help you unless you are really ready to make a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 YES, YES, YES!! I'm so fortunate, I have never came across anyone that would point their finger at me. I think they know better, I work them pretty hard :)DarcyOn Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:45 PM, a Frey <paulajfrey@...> wrote: No one, not even the world's best trainer can help you unless you are really ready to make a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I think people hire trainers for a variety of reasons: motivation, accountability, advice, new ideas and fresh workouts. A good trainer will work around your specific issues. An excellent trainer will show you how to strengthen muscles to help alleviate pain in problem areas such as the knees, back, ankles etc. (depending on their background) If I drove and had the money I would SO do it.I've only done short term training, but it was a lifesaver as far as my back pain. a > > > > > I look forward to these sessions a LOT but in reality I'm probably just one of many he does this with but irrationally I want to be his favorite client. OVE > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Chiming in... I really enjoyed this thread! I've used two different online trainers/programs in the past, and I really liked the first one. The trainer was very resposive to all my newbie questions, and I always felt like she was customizing things for *me*. The second program didn't go as well. I paid for it mostly for accoutability, and so I wouldn't have to make up my own plans, and at first she was okay. She was friendly and enthusiastic, and sort of made changes that I asked her to. After a few weeks, I kept asking her to incorporate more of my gym equipment into my routines, and she just seemed to keep giving me the pre-canned options I had before. I look back on some of my notes during that time, and I really, really hated a lot of my workouts! And after having to ask one too many times, and having a different trainer while she was out of town who I didn't like, I cancelled my subscription. So, I just wanted to emphasize, that yes, you need to give feedback - and a good trainer will make adjustment for you. Otherwise, maybe you need someone else. Sara > > > > > A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be > > safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health > > information form that includes space to give them information about things > > like your feet and knees. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Chiming in... I really enjoyed this thread! I've used two different online trainers/programs in the past, and I really liked the first one. The trainer was very resposive to all my newbie questions, and I always felt like she was customizing things for *me*. The second program didn't go as well. I paid for it mostly for accoutability, and so I wouldn't have to make up my own plans, and at first she was okay. She was friendly and enthusiastic, and sort of made changes that I asked her to. After a few weeks, I kept asking her to incorporate more of my gym equipment into my routines, and she just seemed to keep giving me the pre-canned options I had before. I look back on some of my notes during that time, and I really, really hated a lot of my workouts! And after having to ask one too many times, and having a different trainer while she was out of town who I didn't like, I cancelled my subscription. So, I just wanted to emphasize, that yes, you need to give feedback - and a good trainer will make adjustment for you. Otherwise, maybe you need someone else. Sara > > > > > A good trainer would never ask you to do any exercise that wouldn't be > > safe for you. Good ones will ask you to fill out a detailed health > > information form that includes space to give them information about things > > like your feet and knees. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 I agree, ! I often pick up free sessions at the gym chain where I work and I've only had one out of about 5 that I felt were truly good. Noel, however, is excellent. He made sure I did the exercises properly, asked if I was in pain other than muscle discomfort, and really knows what he's talking about, has he is a professional bodybuilder and trains other bodybuilders who place in shows. If I can just look like a normal aerobics instructor I will be very happy! I don't need to look like Cathe or Jari, but maybe more like Voight or Chalene > > Give me a break, Jen. Of course not all are good. I wasn't saying that, I was just pointing out ways to know if you have a good one or not. If you choose not to use their services then don't but please don't put down a profession that does help a great many interested people. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 I agree, ! I often pick up free sessions at the gym chain where I work and I've only had one out of about 5 that I felt were truly good. Noel, however, is excellent. He made sure I did the exercises properly, asked if I was in pain other than muscle discomfort, and really knows what he's talking about, has he is a professional bodybuilder and trains other bodybuilders who place in shows. If I can just look like a normal aerobics instructor I will be very happy! I don't need to look like Cathe or Jari, but maybe more like Voight or Chalene > > Give me a break, Jen. Of course not all are good. I wasn't saying that, I was just pointing out ways to know if you have a good one or not. If you choose not to use their services then don't but please don't put down a profession that does help a great many interested people. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 I agree, ! I often pick up free sessions at the gym chain where I work and I've only had one out of about 5 that I felt were truly good. Noel, however, is excellent. He made sure I did the exercises properly, asked if I was in pain other than muscle discomfort, and really knows what he's talking about, has he is a professional bodybuilder and trains other bodybuilders who place in shows. If I can just look like a normal aerobics instructor I will be very happy! I don't need to look like Cathe or Jari, but maybe more like Voight or Chalene > > Give me a break, Jen. Of course not all are good. I wasn't saying that, I was just pointing out ways to know if you have a good one or not. If you choose not to use their services then don't but please don't put down a profession that does help a great many interested people. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 I agree, ! I often pick up free sessions at the gym chain where I work and I've only had one out of about 5 that I felt were truly good. Noel, however, is excellent. He made sure I did the exercises properly, asked if I was in pain other than muscle discomfort, and really knows what he's talking about, has he is a professional bodybuilder and trains other bodybuilders who place in shows. If I can just look like a normal aerobics instructor I will be very happy! I don't need to look like Cathe or Jari, but maybe more like Voight or Chalene > > Give me a break, Jen. Of course not all are good. I wasn't saying that, I was just pointing out ways to know if you have a good one or not. If you choose not to use their services then don't but please don't put down a profession that does help a great many interested people. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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