Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Sophia, Thanks for the fascinating etymological journey! I'll have to take some time tonight to really appreciate your ideas and information. The old esoteric concept takes on new light..... " to know ones name give you power over them " . There so many ancient fragrant components that are lost us forever, whether through the loss of its name or extinction. I have spent along time trying to figure the ingredients in Egyptian formulas, and always wondered about Aloe as well. I tended to jump to an aloeswood conclusion, wishful thinking that did not match the culture or climate. That the term Aloe could be " precious substance " makes a great deal of sense. There is a coincidence here.... I just had a request from a woman for research material and thoughts on the divine feminine in relationship to words and the naming of life, then You posted this....hope you don't mind that I shared your post with her. (I also recommended Sheshat and Saraswati) . Very auspicious I thought. Question....I always thought that Zoe was greek for " indestructible Life " (Karl Kerenyi) .... Anyway, before I get too off topic....thank you for such delicious food for thought. Katlyn Katlyn Breene Mermade Magickal Arts (since 1984) katmermade@... http://www.mermadearts.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 > I am curious as to know > why Oude is called Aloeswood, is there a link in smell or healing > abilities, for from what I can gather from my limited research there Here's a useful reference from: http://www.balashon .com/2008/ 03/ aloe.html Klein, in his CEDEL, explains that this is the agarwood tree - also known as lignum aloes (thanks Mike G for the lookup): The remaining verse - Bamidbar 24:6 - isn't as clear. Here we have Bilaam blessing Israel: " Like aloes planted by the Lord / Like cedars beside the water " . " Aloe " is a fair translation for ahal here as well. And indeed some point out that the parallel to cedars in the second half of the verse should be a tree as well, and therefore the agarwood tree is appropriate (Feliks here). Others (Immanuel Low, as quoted in Feliks and here) point out that unlike the imported spices mentioned in the other three verses, Bilaam was not likely to find agarwood trees in the steppes of Moav. (Of course those who claim that this verse is also talking about agarwood would point out that cedars were not in that exact area as well. They also don't grow " beside the water " , so there is clearly poetic imagery here.) -your post contained a lot of interesting information. I really enjoyed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Here's a useful reference from: http://www.balashon .com/2008/ 03/ aloe.html Klein, in his CEDEL, explains that this is the agarwood tree - also known as lignum aloes (thanks Mike G for the lookup): The remaining verse - Bamidbar 24:6 - isn't as clear. Here we have Bilaam blessing Israel: " Like aloes planted by the Lord / Like cedars beside the water " . " Aloe " is a fair translation for ahal here as well. And indeed some point out that the parallel to cedars in the second half of the verse should be a tree as well, and therefore the agarwood tree is appropriate (Feliks here). Others (Immanuel Low, as quoted in Feliks and here) point out that unlike the imported spices mentioned in the other three verses, Bilaam was not likely to find agarwood trees in the steppes of Moav. (Of course those who claim that this verse is also talking about agarwood would point out that cedars were not in that exact area as well. They also don't grow " beside the water " , so there is clearly poetic imagery here.) -your post contained a lot of interesting information. I really enjoyed it! Or as the Tibetans say like a rabbit with horns. We call 'em Jackalopes. No irreverence intended.. Cahir agut Bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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