Losing Weight

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In a message dated 2/9/01 12:54:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, iklel@... writes:

I think I just have a very very slow metabolism and am not sure what to do besides maintain the diet and keep exercising, hoping my weight will slowly go down. I am 5'2" and weigh 132.

, I hope you've had your bodyfat tested. Weight doesn't really give an adequate picture of health. If you're interested in losing fat, then electron impedance or caliper testing is the way to get a benchmark, and go from there. The average bodyfat range for women is between 19 and 26% bodyfat, with 12% being the lowest amount recommended for menstruating women. May I suggest that you visit this website to get more information: www.hussman.com/eas/

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In a message dated 2/9/01 12:54:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, iklel@... writes:

I think I just have a very very slow metabolism and am not sure what to do besides maintain the diet and keep exercising, hoping my weight will slowly go down. I am 5'2" and weigh 132.

, I hope you've had your bodyfat tested. Weight doesn't really give an adequate picture of health. If you're interested in losing fat, then electron impedance or caliper testing is the way to get a benchmark, and go from there. The average bodyfat range for women is between 19 and 26% bodyfat, with 12% being the lowest amount recommended for menstruating women. May I suggest that you visit this website to get more information: www.hussman.com/eas/

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"Faith is taking the first step even when you don't see the whole staircase." -- Luther King Jr.

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,

Remember that this plan is a 12 week plan. You need more than 1200

calories to give you energy through the workouts. Without eating

you'll be super-tired.

First time through, my wife noticed little scale weight difference

over the first 5 to 6 weeks but I noticed in her appearance. From

week seven on, she consistently lost 1.5 to 2 pounds a week. So hang

in there. Keep up with your meals (6 times daily) or your metabolism

will shut down and you'll lose muscle.

Rob

> I seem to be having a great deal of difficulty losing weight with

this plan. I

> have started with a 2 week pilot program of the BSL program with

the real 12

> week course to start next week but I have not been cheating on the

diet for the

> last two weeks at all. However, this diet represents probably an

increase in

> calories for me over my normal diet, which is 1500 to 1800 calories

a day. I

> can apparently maintain my weight forever on about 1200 calories

(The last diet

> I tried was 1200 calories a day and during one month of religious

adherence to

> the diet, I lost not an ounce.) In the last couple of years I have

been eating

> 400 calorie breakfasts and 400 calorie lunches with about 800 more

or less

> calories allowed at dinner and I have been gaining weight. BFL

seems to me to

> be about 1500 to 1800 calories a day for women, if I read the book

right. The

> book did not describe the caloric intake that the diet allows. Also

I have been

> eating only 5 meals a day, as I eat dinner 6-7 at night and don't

feel the

> least bit hungry when I go to bed about 9-10 pm. (I get up to

exercise at 5:30)

> but I have been eating portions at the supper meal equivalent to

about 1.5 of

> my fists. I eat a shake made of milk, soy protein powder, banana,

strawberries

> and honey for breakfast with a fistful of vitamins and minerals. I

eat a Luna

> bar for midmorning snack and afternoon snack and have been eating

lunches of

> fist sized portion of sweet potato with same size portion of turkey

ham for

> lunch. I am very reluctant to use that EAS stuff with the ma huang

in it. I

> think I just have a very very slow metabolism and am not sure what

to do

> besides maintain the diet and keep exercising, hoping my weight

will slowly go

> down. I am 5'2 " and weigh 132.

>

> Any advice from you experts out there? Thanks,

[Guest guest]

,

Remember that this plan is a 12 week plan. You need more than 1200

calories to give you energy through the workouts. Without eating

you'll be super-tired.

First time through, my wife noticed little scale weight difference

over the first 5 to 6 weeks but I noticed in her appearance. From

week seven on, she consistently lost 1.5 to 2 pounds a week. So hang

in there. Keep up with your meals (6 times daily) or your metabolism

will shut down and you'll lose muscle.

Rob

> I seem to be having a great deal of difficulty losing weight with

this plan. I

> have started with a 2 week pilot program of the BSL program with

the real 12

> week course to start next week but I have not been cheating on the

diet for the

> last two weeks at all. However, this diet represents probably an

increase in

> calories for me over my normal diet, which is 1500 to 1800 calories

a day. I

> can apparently maintain my weight forever on about 1200 calories

(The last diet

> I tried was 1200 calories a day and during one month of religious

adherence to

> the diet, I lost not an ounce.) In the last couple of years I have

been eating

> 400 calorie breakfasts and 400 calorie lunches with about 800 more

or less

> calories allowed at dinner and I have been gaining weight. BFL

seems to me to

> be about 1500 to 1800 calories a day for women, if I read the book

right. The

> book did not describe the caloric intake that the diet allows. Also

I have been

> eating only 5 meals a day, as I eat dinner 6-7 at night and don't

feel the

> least bit hungry when I go to bed about 9-10 pm. (I get up to

exercise at 5:30)

> but I have been eating portions at the supper meal equivalent to

about 1.5 of

> my fists. I eat a shake made of milk, soy protein powder, banana,

strawberries

> and honey for breakfast with a fistful of vitamins and minerals. I

eat a Luna

> bar for midmorning snack and afternoon snack and have been eating

lunches of

> fist sized portion of sweet potato with same size portion of turkey

ham for

> lunch. I am very reluctant to use that EAS stuff with the ma huang

in it. I

> think I just have a very very slow metabolism and am not sure what

to do

> besides maintain the diet and keep exercising, hoping my weight

will slowly go

> down. I am 5'2 " and weigh 132.

>

> Any advice from you experts out there? Thanks,

[Guest guest]

hi steve i played rugby for 25yrs now ive got no muscles on my arms or legs this

is normal with the meds we are on 40mgpred 12.5 mex i have not drunk since my

illness still get more bad days than good days swelling in wrists and ankles

plus pains in legs try not to drink yours phil

wrote: I’ve just spoke to somebody

who I don’t think has really seen me in say 6+

months and she said I’d lost a lot of weight.

When I asked where she replied ‘Everywhere’.

Before my illness and when I was in remission I played football (soccer) and

also did running, but when she last saw me I think I was on 12.5-15mg of

Prednisone – now I’m on 7mg daily.

Perhaps it’s me being paranoid, but I’m wondering do you think it’s a good

thing I’ve lost weight? My mate said he thinks I’ve lost weight around the

neck and chest area mainly – I myself notice my ‘pecks’ have become less fat

... I have less ‘breasts’ - lol, but I also think I might have lost muscle on

my arms and legs, which have always been pretty muscular.

I can only really do swimming, so I’m thinking maybe to start swimming twice

a week and take things from there. I’ve drank a lot less alcohol compared to

normal – I went almost 2 months without even being drunk.

Sorry, but maybe some people have been through the same experience as me

when they have dropped down on the steroids.

Steve xx

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hi steve i played rugby for 25yrs now ive got no muscles on my arms or legs this

is normal with the meds we are on 40mgpred 12.5 mex i have not drunk since my

illness still get more bad days than good days swelling in wrists and ankles

plus pains in legs try not to drink yours phil

wrote: I’ve just spoke to somebody

who I don’t think has really seen me in say 6+

months and she said I’d lost a lot of weight.

When I asked where she replied ‘Everywhere’.

Before my illness and when I was in remission I played football (soccer) and

also did running, but when she last saw me I think I was on 12.5-15mg of

Prednisone – now I’m on 7mg daily.

Perhaps it’s me being paranoid, but I’m wondering do you think it’s a good

thing I’ve lost weight? My mate said he thinks I’ve lost weight around the

neck and chest area mainly – I myself notice my ‘pecks’ have become less fat

... I have less ‘breasts’ - lol, but I also think I might have lost muscle on

my arms and legs, which have always been pretty muscular.

I can only really do swimming, so I’m thinking maybe to start swimming twice

a week and take things from there. I’ve drank a lot less alcohol compared to

normal – I went almost 2 months without even being drunk.

Sorry, but maybe some people have been through the same experience as me

when they have dropped down on the steroids.

Steve xx

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hi steve i played rugby for 25yrs now ive got no muscles on my arms or legs this

is normal with the meds we are on 40mgpred 12.5 mex i have not drunk since my

illness still get more bad days than good days swelling in wrists and ankles

plus pains in legs try not to drink yours phil

wrote: I’ve just spoke to somebody

who I don’t think has really seen me in say 6+

months and she said I’d lost a lot of weight.

When I asked where she replied ‘Everywhere’.

Before my illness and when I was in remission I played football (soccer) and

also did running, but when she last saw me I think I was on 12.5-15mg of

Prednisone – now I’m on 7mg daily.

Perhaps it’s me being paranoid, but I’m wondering do you think it’s a good

thing I’ve lost weight? My mate said he thinks I’ve lost weight around the

neck and chest area mainly – I myself notice my ‘pecks’ have become less fat

... I have less ‘breasts’ - lol, but I also think I might have lost muscle on

my arms and legs, which have always been pretty muscular.

I can only really do swimming, so I’m thinking maybe to start swimming twice

a week and take things from there. I’ve drank a lot less alcohol compared to

normal – I went almost 2 months without even being drunk.

Sorry, but maybe some people have been through the same experience as me

when they have dropped down on the steroids.

Steve xx

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Hi

Unless you have rapidly lost weight and feel ill, I think it is probably a

bonus to have lost weight. You mention that you have not been drinking so

much either which probably has been a reason for your loss of weight as

alcohol is very fattening. I have been reducing steroids but haven't

noticed any difference but who knows. If you feel well enough I think the

swimming sounds like a good idea it could build your muscles up again. If

you feel poorly and have lost weight maybe a check with your doctor before

you take on too much exercise may be a good idea. Anyway all the best with

your activities, let us know how you get on.

Joan U.K.

Losing Weight

I've just spoke to somebody who I don't think has really seen me in say 6+

months and she said I'd lost a lot of weight.

When I asked where she replied 'Everywhere'.

Before my illness and when I was in remission I played football (soccer) and

also did running, but when she last saw me I think I was on 12.5-15mg of

Prednisone - now I'm on 7mg daily.

Perhaps it's me being paranoid, but I'm wondering do you think it's a good

thing I've lost weight? My mate said he thinks I've lost weight around the

neck and chest area mainly - I myself notice my 'pecks' have become less fat

... I have less 'breasts' - lol, but I also think I might have lost muscle on

my arms and legs, which have always been pretty muscular.

I can only really do swimming, so I'm thinking maybe to start swimming twice

a week and take things from there. I've drank a lot less alcohol compared to

normal - I went almost 2 months without even being drunk.

Sorry, but maybe some people have been through the same experience as me

when they have dropped down on the steroids.

Steve xx

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Hi

Unless you have rapidly lost weight and feel ill, I think it is probably a

bonus to have lost weight. You mention that you have not been drinking so

much either which probably has been a reason for your loss of weight as

alcohol is very fattening. I have been reducing steroids but haven't

noticed any difference but who knows. If you feel well enough I think the

swimming sounds like a good idea it could build your muscles up again. If

you feel poorly and have lost weight maybe a check with your doctor before

you take on too much exercise may be a good idea. Anyway all the best with

your activities, let us know how you get on.

Joan U.K.

Losing Weight

I've just spoke to somebody who I don't think has really seen me in say 6+

months and she said I'd lost a lot of weight.

When I asked where she replied 'Everywhere'.

Before my illness and when I was in remission I played football (soccer) and

also did running, but when she last saw me I think I was on 12.5-15mg of

Prednisone - now I'm on 7mg daily.

Perhaps it's me being paranoid, but I'm wondering do you think it's a good

thing I've lost weight? My mate said he thinks I've lost weight around the

neck and chest area mainly - I myself notice my 'pecks' have become less fat

... I have less 'breasts' - lol, but I also think I might have lost muscle on

my arms and legs, which have always been pretty muscular.

I can only really do swimming, so I'm thinking maybe to start swimming twice

a week and take things from there. I've drank a lot less alcohol compared to

normal - I went almost 2 months without even being drunk.

Sorry, but maybe some people have been through the same experience as me

when they have dropped down on the steroids.

Steve xx

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Has anyone found that losing weight has helped them with PA?

Thanks,

Phyllis

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When one eats less one also eats less sodium. So it is difficult to test this. The DASH studies of however held weight constant by adjusting calories each day or so. So the DASH effect is not related to weight loss. I have had patients lose 70lbs with DASH. just set calories at day 1800 and down u go. Our research suggests that weight alone plays a very small part in BP in the population due to a plateau effect. ie after BP exceeds 140/90 increasing weight has not effect on increasing BP. But the only way to test in u is to test in u. What has been your own experience?May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 27, 2012, at 8:59, phylisrn <phylisrn@...> wrote:

Has anyone found that losing weight has helped them with PA?

Thanks,

Phyllis

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I was 260 lbs. I am now at 235lbs. The Inspra was giving me GI

upset. I am also doing Weight Watcher and getting my V8 twice a day.

I was taking Inspra 50mg daily. I am now taking Inspra 25mg daily

with lower blood pressures. So I am wondering is it the weight loss

or was I taking too much

Inspra for my system. I have been taking the lower dose of Inspra

for 6 days now. My stomach also feel better.

Phyllis

On 2/27/2012 1:27 PM, Clarence Grim wrote:

When one eats less one also eats less sodium. So it is

difficult to test this. The DASH studies of however held

weight constant by adjusting calories each day or so. So

the DASH effect is not related to weight loss. I have had

patients lose 70lbs with DASH. just set calories at day

1800 and down u go.

Our research suggests that weight alone plays a very

small part in BP in the population due to a plateau

effect. ie after BP exceeds 140/90 increasing weight has

not effect on increasing BP. But the only way to test in u

is to test in u. What has been your own experience?

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim MS, MD

Specializing in Difficult

Hypertension

On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:59, phylisrn <phylisrn@...>

wrote:

Has anyone found that losing weight has helped them

with PA?

Thanks,

Phyllis

[Guest guest]

The goal at home should be < 135 systolic. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 27, 2012, at 13:18, Phyllis <phylisrn@...> wrote:

After 15 years of 170-230/90-120, I am aiming for 140-145/80.

I take my BP in the morning at the table on my left arm right after

i get up. I have white coat syndrome at home.

I can literally feel my BP rising sometimes.

Also I dont know if this is relevant but I have also started the

Relaxation Response and Meditating deeply.

THis morning it was 138/78. I am still eating low salt too.

I read your file on how to take the BP so I do it as best I can. I

can tell when my BP is high. So I know this is a true reading.

Phyllis

On 2/27/2012 3:17 PM, Clarence Grim wrote:

Great weight loss. BP reduction most likely due to

both a reduction in Na and the Inspra. What is the goal BP you are

shooting for?

Tell us exactly how and when you are measuring BP.

May your salt intake and

pressure be low!

CE Grim BS, MS, MD

High Blood Pressure

Consulting

Senior Consultant

to Shared Care

Research and Education

Consulting

Inc.(sharedcareinc.com)

Clinical Professor

of Internal Medicine

Medical and Cardiology

(retired)

Medical College of

Wisconsin

Board certified in

Internal Med,

Geriatrics and

Hypertension.

Interests:

1. Difficult to

control high blood

pressure.

2. The effect of

recent evolutionary

forces on high blood

pressure in human

populations.

3. Improving blood

pressure measurement

in and out of the

office.

On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Phyllis wrote:

I was 260 lbs. I am now at 235lbs. The Inspra was

giving me GI upset. I am also doing Weight Watcher

and getting my V8 twice a day.

I was taking Inspra 50mg daily. I am now taking

Inspra 25mg daily with lower blood pressures. So I

am wondering is it the weight loss or was I taking

too much

Inspra for my system. I have been taking the lower

dose of Inspra for 6 days now. My stomach also feel

better.

Phyllis

On 2/27/2012 1:27 PM, Clarence Grim wrote:

When one eats less one also eats less sodium.

So it is difficult to test this. The DASH

studies of however held weight constant by

adjusting calories each day or so. So the DASH

effect is not related to weight loss. I have had

patients lose 70lbs with DASH. just set

calories at day 1800 and down u go.

Our research suggests that weight alone

plays a very small part in BP in the population

due to a plateau effect. ie after BP exceeds

140/90 increasing weight has not effect on

increasing BP. But the only way to test in u is

to test in u. What has been your own experience?

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim MS, MD

Specializing in Difficult

Hypertension

On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:59, phylisrn <phylisrn@...>

wrote:

Has anyone found that losing weight has

helped them with PA?

Thanks,

Phyllis

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