Need Some Advice

May 16, 2007

I have not had predisone in two years and really want to stay away from it.

This is good stuff though and am anxious to hear others thoughts on what they can drink. I thought my drinking days were over but find out that gin, vodka and whisky are ok. Unfortunately the three I have never liked. They will never compare to a good cold Sam light! You can tell I am from New England right?

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May 16, 2007

All alcohol bothers me. I've found the only way to drink without having a nose asplosion (as we call it round these parts) is to take my zyflo about an hour before drinking. Of course, you may wish to debate the wisdom of combining two potential liver problems, but it works for me.

On 5/16/07, teblake@... <teblake@...> wrote:

A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

What alcohol does not bother people?

Tom

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May 16, 2007

One of the reasons I wanted to desens (apart from feeling better and not having to take huge amounts of antibiotics and steroids) was to be able to enjoy a glass of wine or beer again. Aparently gin with tonic, and vodka are supposed to be alright, but I can't have any alcohol without reacting. The only time I can enjoy a glass of wine or beer is at the end of a steroid burst (about 5-7 days into taking oral steroids). So I guess the answer to your question, is that it's normal for a Samters suffer to react to alcohol. Sorry! I'm 36 and have had Samters for 8 years now, Becky Condouris <condour@...> wrote: All alcohol bothers me. I've found the only way to drink without having a nose asplosion (as we call it round these parts) is to take my zyflo about an hour before drinking. Of course, you may wish to debate the wisdom of combining two potential liver problems, but it works for me. On 5/16/07, teblakeaol <teblakeaol> wrote: A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It

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May 16, 2007

I don't have Samter's, but the Failsafe Diet for those of us who are sensitive to salicylates offers Gin, Vodka, and Whiskey as alcoholic beverages. I believe that beer and wine are the worst things that you can do. Sulfite sensitivities often cross over to salicylate sensitivities.

Sheila

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-------------- Original message -------------- From: " Condouris" <condour@...> All alcohol bothers me. I've found the only way to drink without having a nose asplosion (as we call it round these parts) is to take my zyflo about an hour before drinking. Of course, you may wish to debate the wisdom of combining two potential liver problems, but it works for me.

On 5/16/07, teblake@... <teblake@...> wrote:

A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

What alcohol does not bother people?

Tom

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May 16, 2007

Some people can take desulfited wine. Carol

Re: Need some advice

A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

What alcohol does not bother people?

Tom

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May 16, 2007

Can you drink some alcohol while on predisone? I really makes me

feel sooo much better even though I know its not the best drug to be

on. I have a family party on Sunday that alcohol will get me thru

and I have been on my course of predisone for a week now so I am at

the end..

>

> Some people can take desulfited wine.

Carol

> Re: Need some advice

>

> A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be

mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

>

> What alcohol does not bother people?

>

> Tom

>

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May 16, 2007

I usually have to take predisone like 3 times a year, not too bad

and they are always pretty short courses but I would much rather

not take it.. it does help with my sense of smell, which is great,

most of the year I cant smell a thing and I think that is

dangerous..can be good at times, haha

I am from New England as well, CT and hear ya about the

, I am not a beer drinker or even a big drinker at all but to

be able to relax and have a drink at a party or after a long night

would be great without the awful stuffiness I experience..

>

> I have not had predisone in two years and really want to stay away

from it.

>

> This is good stuff though and am anxious to hear others thoughts

on what

> they can drink. I thought my drinking days were over but find

out that gin,

> vodka and whisky are ok. Unfortunately the three I have never

liked. They

> will never compare to a good cold Sam light! You can tell

I am from New

> England right?

>

> Tom

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

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>

May 16, 2007

I’ve been on and off Prednisone for

years and still have a few drinks every day. It’s never been a problem

and my partner also goes on prednisone and he still has his few drinks a day.

From:

samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of ligigirls

Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2007 6:00

AM

samters

Subject: Re: Need some

advice

Can you drink some alcohol while on predisone? I

really makes me

feel sooo much better even though I know its not the best drug to be

on. I have a family party on Sunday that alcohol will get me thru

and I have been on my course of predisone for a week now so I am at

the end..

>

> Some people can take desulfited wine.

Carol

> Re: Need some advice

>

> A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be

mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

>

> What alcohol does not bother people?

>

> Tom

>

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May 16, 2007

how are you treated for your samters? the same, prednisone here and

there with antibiotics? do you do anything else or just wait for

the bad flare ups?

thanks for the advice on drinks..

> >

> > Some people can take desulfited wine.

> Carol

> > Re: Need some advice

> >

> > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

> alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be

> mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

> >

> > What alcohol does not bother people?

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May 16, 2007

Most of us start with Nasonex for the polyps and congestion, Singulair for

asthma and polyps, Advair for asthma, and antihistamines as needed. Often

we find something does not work as hoped and switch to some thing else, but

the above formula works for at least 50% of us.

My favorite antihistamine is astilin, it is too harsh for some but strong

enough to do something for me.

Pam

On 5/16/07 5:38 PM, " ligigirls " <ligigirls@...> wrote:

> how are you treated for your samters? the same, prednisone here and

> there with antibiotics? do you do anything else or just wait for

> the bad flare ups?

> thanks for the advice on drinks..

>>>

>>

May 16, 2007

I take Seritide twice daily for

Samters/Asthma and also ventolin when needed. Prednisone every couple of months

when things get worse. Antibiotics when and if I get sinus infections.

From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of ligigirls

Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2007 7:38

AM

samters

Subject: Re: Need some

advice

how are you treated for your samters? the same,

prednisone here and

there with antibiotics? do you do anything else or just wait for

the bad flare ups?

thanks for the advice on drinks..

> >

> > Some people can take desulfited wine.

> Carol

> > Re: Need some advice

> >

> > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

> alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be

> mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

> >

> > What alcohol does not bother people?

> >

> > Tom

> >

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May 16, 2007

I cannot drink wine anymore. I get really congested with a rapid

heart beat and face flushes. Lots of sneezing and wheezing. Yuck! I

do not seem to have a problem with beer, but I don't drink it very

often. I have never had any problems with hard liquer.

Unfortunately, it is wine that I prefer.

Rose

>

> A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

alcohol due to

> how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be mostly beer or

white wine

> which I enjoy the most.

>

> What alcohol does not bother people?

>

> Tom

>

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May 17, 2007

that is exaclty what happens to me when i drink wine and I love

wine.. any advice on what alcohol I can enjoy? like a

vodka/cranberry?

> >

> > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

> alcohol due to

> > how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be mostly beer

or

> white wine

> > which I enjoy the most.

> >

> > What alcohol does not bother people?

> >

> > Tom

> >

> > ************************************** See what's free at

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May 17, 2007

I take Advair for my asthma and nasonex for nasal.. I was told

Singulair is helpful, does anyone use it will great results.. are

there side affects? I know the short courses of predisone do

wonders but isnt it bad for us?

> > >

> > > Some people can take desulfited wine.

> > Carol

> > > Re: Need some advice

> > >

> > > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

> > alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be

> > mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

> > >

> > > What alcohol does not bother people?

> > >

> > > Tom

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May 17, 2007

I've been taking Singulair for 3 years. It seems to work very well, as I don't really have much in the way of allergic symptoms. Unfortunately for me is that it hasn't improved my sense of smell at all.ligigirls <ligigirls@...> wrote: I take Advair for my asthma and nasonex for nasal.. I was told Singulair is helpful, does anyone use it will great results.. are there side affects? I know the short courses of predisone do wonders but isnt it bad for us?> > >> > > Some people can take desulfited wine. > > Carol> > > Re: Need some advice> > > > > > > > > > > > A good

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May 17, 2007

Hi

I have been monitoring this group for awhile. I developed

full blown samters in my 20’s. I am 47 now. I have gone

through several major and many minor surgeries. 3+ years ago I did some

research and it said that 65% of people with polyps will get relief from

Singulair. After my last surgery (3years ago) I asked my doctor if I

could go on singulair. I have had very very slight polyp growth, have not

had any sinus infections, have not had to take prednisone since that last

surgery (thank God).. All in all I am doing much better. My routine

is singulair, nexium (hiatal hernia), Nasacort and benedryl each night. I

do not do rinses. Did in past and didn’t feel they helped. Every

once in awhile I smell something. It is like a treat, not anything I can

count on.

The down side is that some days I am very lethargic, foggy from

the meds. I have struggles losing weight although that could be from other

reasons like middle age.

When I want a drink, I take a benedryl and make sure my husband

is driving!!!

Janet

From: samters

[mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of ligigirls

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:48 AM

samters

Subject: Re: Need some advice

I take Advair for my asthma and nasonex for

nasal.. I was told

Singulair is helpful, does anyone use it will great results.. are

there side affects? I know the short courses of predisone do

wonders but isnt it bad for us?

> > >

> > > Some people can take desulfited wine.

> > Carol

> > > Re: Need some advice

> > >

> > > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

> > alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be

> > mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

> > >

> > > What alcohol does not bother people?

> > >

> > > Tom

> > >

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May 17, 2007

My reading says that you have to have your liquor "neat." Cranberry and other fruit juices are high in salicylates. If I were you, I'd try it "neat" and then, go with a little lime which is low in salicylates. My response is going to differ from yours.

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-------------- Original message -------------- From: "ligigirls" <ligigirls@...> > that is exaclty what happens to me when i drink wine and I love > wine.. any advice on what alcohol I can enjoy? like a > vodka/cranberry? > > > > > > > > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up > > alcohol due to > > > how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be mostly beer > or > > white wine > > > which I enjoy the most. > > > > > > What alcohol does not bother people? > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > >

May 17, 2007

thanks for the info!!

> > > >

> > > > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

> > > alcohol due to

> > > > how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be mostly beer

> > or

> > > white wine

> > > > which I enjoy the most.

> > > >

> > > > What alcohol does not bother people?

> > > >

> > > > Tom

> > > >

> > > > ************************************** See what's free at

> > > http://www.aol.com.

> > > >

> > >

> >

May 17, 2007

Benadryl is of course a very sedating med and may give you somewhat of a 'hangover' fuzzy feeling during the day as well as give you a propensity for weigh gain. If you have sleep issues you might want to have a sleep study done to see if you sleep architechture is normal and make sure you don't have sleep apnea which can really contribute to weigh gain ( there are good metabolic reasons for this) and fuzziness during the day. Some docs have access to a sleep screen but a full fledged sleep study is the gold standard and a lot of people are shocked to find out that they have a sever sleep disorder.Check it out! Carol

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May 17, 2007

I take one Sudafed when I feel congested and it really does a great

job for me.. ANyone else tried it?

> > > >

> > > > Some people can take desulfited wine.

> > > Carol

> > > > Re: Need some advice

> > > >

> > > > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give

up

> > > alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to

be

> > > mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

> > > >

> > > > What alcohol does not bother people?

> > > >

> > > > Tom

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May 17, 2007

Try replacing benedryl with Fexofenadine.

From: samters

[mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Mike & Janet

Sent: 17 May 2007 15:42

samters

Subject: RE: Re: Need some advice

Hi

I have been monitoring this group for

awhile. I developed full blown samters in my 20’s. I am 47

now. I have gone through several major and many minor surgeries. 3+

years ago I did some research and it said that 65% of people with polyps will

get relief from Singulair. After my last surgery (3years ago) I asked my

doctor if I could go on singulair. I have had very very slight polyp

growth, have not had any sinus infections, have not had to take prednisone

since that last surgery (thank God).. All in all I am doing much better.

My routine is singulair, nexium (hiatal hernia), Nasacort and benedryl

each night. I do not do rinses. Did in past and didn’t feel they helped.

Every once in awhile I smell something. It is like a treat, not anything

I can count on.

The down side is that some days I am

very lethargic, foggy from the meds. I have struggles losing weight although

that could be from other reasons like middle age.

When I want a drink, I take a benedryl

and make sure my husband is driving!!!

Janet

From:

samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of ligigirls

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:48 AM

samters

Subject: Re: Need some advice

I take Advair for my asthma and nasonex for nasal.. I was told

Singulair is helpful, does anyone use it will great results.. are

there side affects? I know the short courses of predisone do

wonders but isnt it bad for us?

> > >

> > > Some people can take desulfited wine.

> > Carol

> > > Re: Need some advice

> > >

> > > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

> > alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be

> > mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

> > >

> > > What alcohol does not bother people?

> > >

> > > Tom

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

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May 18, 2007

Hi Janet

I noticed you put down a drug for hiatal hernia? Is this a tummy problem and is it related to the polyps and stuff? It's just that i have had samters for about 8 yrs and suffer regularly from excrutiatingly painful tummy problems and am yet unable to get a diagnosis/treatment but assumed (and had been told) they werent related.Cat

From: "Mike & Janet " <unlimited@...>Reply-samters To: <samters >Subject: RE: Re: Need some adviceDate: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:42:15 -0500

Hi

I have been monitoring this group for awhile. I developed full blown samters in my 20’s. I am 47 now. I have gone through several major and many minor surgeries. 3+ years ago I did some research and it said that 65% of people with polyps will get relief from Singulair. After my last surgery (3years ago) I asked my doctor if I could go on singulair. I have had very very slight polyp growth, have not had any sinus infections, have not had to take prednisone since that last surgery (thank God).. All in all I am doing much better. My routine is singulair, nexium (hiatal hernia), Nasacort and benedryl each night. I do not do rinses. Did in past and didn’t feel they helped. Every once in awhile I smell something. It is like a treat, not anything I can count on.

The down side is that some days I am very lethargic, foggy from the meds. I have struggles losing weight although that could be from other reasons like middle age.

When I want a drink, I take a benedryl and make sure my husband is driving!!!

Janet

From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of ligigirlsSent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:48 AMsamters Subject: Re: Need some advice

I take Advair for my asthma and nasonex for nasal.. I was told Singulair is helpful, does anyone use it will great results.. are there side affects? I know the short courses of predisone do wonders but isnt it bad for us?> > >> > > Some people can take desulfited wine. > > Carol> > > Re: Need some advice> > > > > > > > > > > > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up > > alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be > > mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.> > > > > > What alcohol does not bother people?> > > > > > Tom> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------> > -----------> > > See what's free at AOL.com.> > >> > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: > 15/05/2007> > 10:47 AM> > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: > 15/05/2007> > 10:47 AM> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date: 16/05/2007> 6:05 PM> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date: 16/05/2007> 6:05 PM>

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May 18, 2007

Hi Cat

A Hiatal Hernia is a weakening of the muscle right where the

esophagus meets the stomach. It progressed until I had terrible heart burn

which ultimately created chest pain. At first they thought it was gall

stones, then the hernia was discovered with a scope procedure. That being

said if I lost 40 pounds I probably wouldn’t have the same level of

problem. The weight pushes the stomach up which makes the hernia worse.

So I do not believe it was related to the Samters.

However, I have read that a lot of problems do occur from the sinus drainage

that upsets the stomach. Hope this helps.

Janet

From:

samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Cat

Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 2:37 AM

samters

Subject: RE: Re: Need some advice

Hi Janet

I noticed you put down a drug for hiatal hernia? Is this a tummy

problem and is it related to the polyps and stuff? It's just that i have

had samters for about 8 yrs and suffer regularly from excrutiatingly

painful tummy problems and am yet unable to get a diagnosis/treatment but

assumed (and had been told) they werent related.

Cat

From: " Mike & Janet

" <unlimited@...>

Reply-samters

Subject: RE: Re: Need some advice

Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:42:15 -0500

Hi

I have been monitoring this group for

awhile. I developed full blown samters in my 20’s. I am 47

now. I have gone through several major and many minor surgeries. 3+

years ago I did some research and it said that 65% of people with polyps will

get relief from Singulair. After my last surgery (3years ago) I asked my

doctor if I could go on singulair. I have had very very slight polyp

growth, have not had any sinus infections, have not had to take prednisone

since that last surgery (thank God).. All in all I am doing much better.

My routine is singulair, nexium (hiatal hernia), Nasacort and benedryl

each night. I do not do rinses. Did in past and didn’t feel they

helped. Every once in awhile I smell something. It is like a treat,

not anything I can count on.

The down side is that some days I am

very lethargic, foggy from the meds. I have struggles losing weight although

that could be from other reasons like middle age.

When I want a drink, I take a benedryl

and make sure my husband is driving!!!

Janet

From:

samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of ligigirls

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:48 AM

samters

Subject: Re: Need some advice

I take

Advair for my asthma and nasonex for nasal.. I was told

Singulair is helpful, does anyone use it will great results.. are

there side affects? I know the short courses of predisone do

wonders but isnt it bad for us?

> > >

> > > Some people can take desulfited wine.

> > Carol

> > > Re: Need some advice

> > >

> > > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

> > alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be

> > mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

> > >

> > > What alcohol does not bother people?

> > >

> > > Tom

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

-

> > -----------

> > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > >

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date:

> 15/05/2007

> > 10:47 AM

> >

> > No virus found in this outgoing message.

> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date:

> 15/05/2007

> > 10:47 AM

> >

>

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date:

16/05/2007

> 6:05 PM

>

> No virus found in this outgoing message.

> Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date:

16/05/2007

> 6:05 PM

>

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May 18, 2007

Thanks for the info. I don’t really have sleep

issues that I know of. I have been sleeping well ever since the last

surgery. So nice to sleep through your nose all night. After about a year

of the singulair, I started to have some breakthrough allergy attacks

(sneezing). I take the “4”hour benedryl at bed so I sleep off

the effects. It does keep the allergic reactions at bay. I

think every few days it just builds up.

Janet

From:

samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Carol

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 2:53 PM

samters

Subject: Re: Re: Need some advice

Benadryl

is of course a very sedating med and may give you somewhat of a 'hangover'

fuzzy feeling during the day as well as give you a propensity for weigh gain.

If you have sleep issues you might want to have a sleep study done to see if

you sleep architechture is normal and make sure you don't have sleep apnea

which can really contribute to weigh gain ( there are good metabolic reasons

for this) and fuzziness during the day. Some docs have access to a sleep screen

but a full fledged sleep study is the gold standard and a lot of people are shocked

to find out that they have a sever sleep disorder.Check it

out!

Carol

-----

Original Message -----

From: Mike & Janet

samters

Sent: Thursday, May 17,

2007 7:42 AM

Subject: RE: Re:

Need some advice

Hi

I have been monitoring this group for

awhile. I developed full blown samters in my 20’s. I am 47

now. I have gone through several major and many minor surgeries. 3+

years ago I did some research and it said that 65% of people with polyps will

get relief from Singulair. After my last surgery (3years ago) I asked my

doctor if I could go on singulair. I have had very very slight polyp

growth, have not had any sinus infections, have not had to take prednisone

since that last surgery (thank God).. All in all I am doing much better.

My routine is singulair, nexium (hiatal hernia), Nasacort and benedryl

each night. I do not do rinses. Did in past and didn’t feel

they helped. Every once in awhile I smell something. It is like a

treat, not anything I can count on.

The down side is that some days I am

very lethargic, foggy from the meds. I have struggles losing weight although

that could be from other reasons like middle age.

When I want a drink, I take a benedryl

and make sure my husband is driving!!!

Janet

From:

samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of ligigirls

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:48 AM

samters

Subject: Re: Need some advice

I take Advair for my asthma and nasonex for nasal.. I was told

Singulair is helpful, does anyone use it will great results.. are

there side affects? I know the short courses of predisone do

wonders but isnt it bad for us?

> > >

> > > Some people can take desulfited wine.

> > Carol

> > > Re: Need some advice

> > >

> > > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up

> > alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be

> > mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.

> > >

> > > What alcohol does not bother people?

> > >

> > > Tom

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

-

> > -----------

> > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > >

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date:

> 15/05/2007

> > 10:47 AM

> >

> > No virus found in this outgoing message.

> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date:

> 15/05/2007

> > 10:47 AM

> >

>

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date:

16/05/2007

> 6:05 PM

>

> No virus found in this outgoing message.

> Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date:

16/05/2007

> 6:05 PM

>

May 18, 2007

thanks janet - sounds rotten for you

From: "Mike & Janet " <unlimited@...>Reply-samters To: <samters >Subject: RE: Re: Need some adviceDate: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:02:14 -0500

Hi Cat

A Hiatal Hernia is a weakening of the muscle right where the esophagus meets the stomach. It progressed until I had terrible heart burn which ultimately created chest pain. At first they thought it was gall stones, then the hernia was discovered with a scope procedure. That being said if I lost 40 pounds I probably wouldn’t have the same level of problem. The weight pushes the stomach up which makes the hernia worse.

So I do not believe it was related to the Samters. However, I have read that a lot of problems do occur from the sinus drainage that upsets the stomach. Hope this helps.

Janet

From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Cat Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 2:37 AMsamters Subject: RE: Re: Need some advice

Hi Janet

I noticed you put down a drug for hiatal hernia? Is this a tummy problem and is it related to the polyps and stuff? It's just that i have had samters for about 8 yrs and suffer regularly from excrutiatingly painful tummy problems and am yet unable to get a diagnosis/treatment but assumed (and had been told) they werent related.Cat

From: "Mike & Janet " <unlimitedhouston (DOT) rr.com>Reply-samters To: <samters >Subject: RE: Re: Need some adviceDate: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:42:15 -0500

Hi

I have been monitoring this group for awhile. I developed full blown samters in my 20’s. I am 47 now. I have gone through several major and many minor surgeries. 3+ years ago I did some research and it said that 65% of people with polyps will get relief from Singulair. After my last surgery (3years ago) I asked my doctor if I could go on singulair. I have had very very slight polyp growth, have not had any sinus infections, have not had to take prednisone since that last surgery (thank God).. All in all I am doing much better. My routine is singulair, nexium (hiatal hernia), Nasacort and benedryl each night. I do not do rinses. Did in past and didn’t feel they helped. Every once in awhile I smell something. It is like a treat, not anything I can count on.

The down side is that some days I am very lethargic, foggy from the meds. I have struggles losing weight although that could be from other reasons like middle age.

When I want a drink, I take a benedryl and make sure my husband is driving!!!

Janet

From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of ligigirlsSent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:48 AMsamters Subject: Re: Need some advice

I take Advair for my asthma and nasonex for nasal.. I was told Singulair is helpful, does anyone use it will great results.. are there side affects? I know the short courses of predisone do wonders but isnt it bad for us?> > >> > > Some people can take desulfited wine. > > Carol> > > Re: Need some advice> > > > > > > > > > > > A good question about the alcohol. I recently had to give up > > alcohol due to how conjested I get when I drink. It seems to be > > mostly beer or white wine which I enjoy the most.> > > > > > What alcohol does not bother people?> > > > > > Tom> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------> > -----------> > > See what's free at AOL.com.> > >> > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: > 15/05/2007> > 10:47 AM> > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: > 15/05/2007> > 10:47 AM> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date: 16/05/2007> 6:05 PM> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date: 16/05/2007> 6:05 PM>

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