Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Thanks for posting the link. I never manage to see these shows when they're airing and appreciate the second chance. > > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines. > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Barbara Loe Fisher was brilliant on the Today Show...Thank you Barbara for still holding the torch, and shining the light of TRUTH! More people are listening today. > > > > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 I predict the attack against religious exemptions by the vaccine promoters will backfire. Barbara did very well and this gave her a platform. What you have is " My kids were hurt " vs. " Trust me, I'm the expert " and who you gonna believe? Those who do not have answers for all the damaged children out there, will lose, eventually. Lenny > > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines. > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Also, the AAP doctor repeated a common spin theme that never goes challenged by the media: that some boogeymen on the internet are misleading parents with bad information, thus scaring the stupid masses into refusing vaccines. Where on the internet and who exactly? They never say, never asked. I want to know how they know this? Did they do surveys and or studies to support this claim? Why are they given a pass on thier anecdotal junk? Double standards. Lenny > > > > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 The AAP doctor also implied that once parents were really educated that they always choose to vaccinate. Poppycock. > > > Also, the AAP doctor repeated a common spin theme that never goes > challenged by the media: that some boogeymen on the internet are > misleading parents with bad information, thus scaring the stupid > masses into refusing vaccines. Where on the internet and who exactly? > They never say, never asked. > > I want to know how they know this? Did they do surveys and or studies > to support this claim? Why are they given a pass on thier anecdotal > junk? Double standards. > > Lenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Thats what I believe will happen. As pissed off as I have been at ALL of the BS, I still believe that in the end good will prevail over evil....its just going to take some time. There are too many " experts " who do not have answers and There is starting to be a nationwide revolt. > > > > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Yeh thats what I was thinking , Where are the double blind , controlled trials showing that if my unvaxed kid sits next to a vaxed kid they latter is put at risk? Where is the study that has found the magic herd immunity number, 85%? 87%, 90%, 99% ? ( really I would love to read that herd immunity study) Why can they repeat this unsubstantiated balloney and every one else has to have 500 peer reviewed studies before they even look at an issue, Double standards I'd say!!!!! Ange Re: Today show video with Barbara Loe Fisher Also, the AAP doctor repeated a common spin theme that never goeschallenged by the media: that some boogeymen on the internet aremisleading parents with bad information, thus scaring the stupidmasses into refusing vaccines. Where on the internet and who exactly?They never say, never asked.I want to know how they know this? Did they do surveys and or studiesto support this claim? Why are they given a pass on thier anecdotaljunk? Double standards.Lenny> >> > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines.> > > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Barbara Loe Fisher is an outstanding spokesperson. I've seen her several times, most of which are " against " a media whore like the perky little snit this morning. She knows so well how to handle the nano seconds she gets. I'm always amazed by her. > > > > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 ...., and Barbara does it so professionally. You can sense her knowledge and passion, but she does not overwhelm the listeners with it. The look of concern on Barbara's face carries more of a message than what is lacking on the rather blank face of her counterpart/adversary in this video (who has not had anything near to her experience). Aasa <renee@...> wrote: Barbara Loe Fisher is an outstanding spokesperson. I've seen her several times, most of which are "against" a media whore like the perky little snit this morning. She knows so well how to handle the nano seconds she gets. I'm always amazed by her.> >> > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines.> > > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 The good DR if you can call her that needs to be reminded about the more educated the mom the less likely they are to vaccinate . . There goes the good DR theory penelope_fam <p.ray@...> wrote: The AAP doctor also implied that once parents were really educated thatthey always choose to vaccinate.Poppycock.>>> Also, the AAP doctor repeated a common spin theme that never goes> challenged by the media: that some boogeymen on the internet are> misleading parents with bad information, thus scaring the stupid> masses into refusing vaccines. Where on the internet and who exactly?> They never say, never asked.>> I want to know how they know this? Did they do surveys and or studies> to support this claim? Why are they given a pass on thier anecdotal> junk? Double standards.>> Lenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 AMEN! n Re: Re: Today show video with Barbara Loe Fisher ...., and Barbara does it so professionally. You can sense her knowledge and passion, but she does not overwhelm the listeners with it. The look of concern on Barbara's face carries more of a message than what is lacking on the rather blank face of her counterpart/adversary in this video (who has not had anything near to her experience). Aasa <reneereprogfx> wrote: Barbara Loe Fisher is an outstanding spokesperson. I've seen her several times, most of which are "against" a media whore like the perky little snit this morning. She knows so well how to handle the nano seconds she gets. I'm always amazed by her.> >> > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines.> > > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 I guess that would be true if " educated " meant " brainwashed and bullied. " Carolyn > > > > > > Also, the AAP doctor repeated a common spin theme that never goes > > challenged by the media: that some boogeymen on the internet are > > misleading parents with bad information, thus scaring the stupid > > masses into refusing vaccines. Where on the internet and who exactly? > > They never say, never asked. > > > > I want to know how they know this? Did they do surveys and or studies > > to support this claim? Why are they given a pass on thier anecdotal > > junk? Double standards. > > > > Lenny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 They know there are bad websites out there with misleading information that scare parent because these web sites are theirs. Can you think of scarier or more misleading websites than the CDC, the vaccine makers and that onther big one that promotes vaccines that I am repressing right now??? > > > > > > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines. > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 I have trouble with that one too. With vaccines they have two conflicting arguements. 1. Vaccines work because they trigger a response in your body so your cells know the illness and that will prevent you from getting sick when (if) you are exposed to the disease. So this is why you get shots before you travel to certain countries. 2. The whole herd immunity concept. I'm not sure I understand the scientific theory, if there really is one. But anyway both can't be true. If #1 is true than herd immunity doesn't matter. If #2 is true than there is no point in getting shots before travelling. And if #1 is not true than what's the point of vaccines? > > > > > > This morning's story about parents opting out of vaccines. > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2omcf6 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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