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In a message dated 12/29/01 9:30:07 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

hsmyangels@... writes:

<< He also sneaked a ball of yarn, and anyone

who knows will understand this one.....he tied up the whole downstairs

using the WHOLE ball of yarn! It was actually quite amazing, but I took it

down before Dad got home and went into thermal nuclear melt down (that's the

autistic characteristic that bugs him the most).

>>

Loriann,

My six year old daugher did this yarn thing this year. Actually, I thought

is was great, but if Gene would have done it I would have found it amazing

too. We pretended like they were laser beams and we tried to walk through

the maze without touching the " lasers " . What you described doing is

stuff I would worry about too...especially if it is chemicals and medicines.

I would hide them probably and keep a close eye on for a while. May be a

passing phase. Gene only sneaks into the food areas and grabs the ice cream

from the freezer when he can. We just get that over the shoulder look as he

opens the freezer while he waits for us to say " no " . Kind of cute.

Lauri in MI

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id like some info on this one too, nathan can also be

a " sneaker " usually its for food or some item he knows

he shouldnt have, at lest i think he knows sometimes i

wonder if it is ALL getting across, then ofcourse

hitting or hurting his brother as soon as we arnt

looking too, i thinkhe knows he will get in trouble,

if we see it anywyas. Im almost ready to go and buy

those camera/tv baby monitors ive seen, but where

would i put the monitors???? hmmmm. yesterday i put

him in time out for 5minutes, he screamed but just

briefly and then just sat there sulking until the

timer went beep beep beep, lol, then he came out and

found his toy and was quiet for a short while. then i

took the boys out, shopping hitting some of the major

mark down clearance sales you know her ein town, and

to just get them out of the house for awhile,

tolerated the store, he got a pop, and nic got some

more paint, but nathan kept hitting nic the poor

little guy, in the car when i went into gas station he

smacked nics face and then started beating him ont he

head, then in the parking lot at pamida, he kept

socking him in the back or shoulder, so i had to stand

in between them. nic is going to look like a battered

child by the time school starts up again, 5days and

counting uuugh. sorry soo long ill stop here, shawna.

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shawna

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Just wanted to wish you Loriann and a some luck with this

issue . No answer here or what some of my other cyber-friends have

dealt with this , yet . I guess in the mean time having to go back

and child proof or lock up the fridge , drawers , toilet , & etc. or

just keep him one room . I really hope you two could hear some

answers on this , sounds like a handful . Yep , a neverending crisis

and definitely " sneakers " .

Irma, 13,DS/ASD

> We've noticed a problem with and I wanted to know if anyone

else had

> this problem or knew how to deal with it, short of not letting him

out of my

> sight. has started " sneaking " around and getting into

things. In the

> past, if he did something wrong, he'd come and get me to show me

like he was

> proud of it or something. Now he sneaks and only apologizes when

we catch

> him in the act or see the evidence. As a for-instance, we found

that

> sometime yesterday (probably while I was altering 7 pair of pants

for

> grandma - she lost 40 pounds!) he sneaked a bottle of ranch

dressing, salt

> and pepper shakers and sugar and poured it all into our ash bucket

(from the

> fireplace) as well as putting dressing in other places, like a

plastic tube

> he has. Last night he was tired before , so we let him go up

and go to

> bed - and dummy us, we didn't go up with him. I went to check and

he had

> squirted a whole bottle of allergy eyedrops, and a bunch of

Listerine

> somewhere......I about had a heart attach, thinking he had mixed it

and

> drank it. After a lot of screaming on my part asking him where he

put it,

> and he confusing it with where he got it, we discovered he mixed it

(I guess

> as a solution) in the toilet. He also sneaked a ball of yarn, and

anyone

> who knows will understand this one.....he tied up the whole

downstairs

> using the WHOLE ball of yarn! It was actually quite amazing, but I

took it

> down before Dad got home and went into thermal nuclear melt down

(that's the

> autistic characteristic that bugs him the most).

>

> So, any ideas on how to deal with this? Short of watching him

every second.

> Our family room (and the TV) is downstairs but my sewing stuff is

upstairs,

> which is where I try to get sewing done on my clown bags.

>

> Loriann AKA Flitter the Christian clown

> Wife to Dewight

> Mom to , 11 years, Down Syndrome, PDD-NOS and Celiac Disease.

> , 2 years and Strong Willed and Celiac Disease

> Both homeschooled.

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In a message dated 12/30/01 9:55:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mashawnag@... writes:

> yeppers, thats what we have to do, uuugh, sometimes i

> get soo tired of having to lock up stuff, like its a

> prison or something, but its for nathan's safety, so

> he can independently play around the house somewhat

> anyways. It does lower the sorry level some too id

> have to say, except you sort of become

> obessesive/compulsive---- " did i lock that, better go

> check, uuugh " , shawna.

>

LOLOL a!!!! That's me and the coffee pot!!! LOLOL Once I went out

KNOWING I left it on!! Thank goodness for great neighbors!!! ;-)

Donna

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yeppers, thats what we have to do, uuugh, sometimes i

get soo tired of having to lock up stuff, like its a

prison or something, but its for nathan's safety, so

he can independently play around the house somewhat

anyways. It does lower the sorry level some too id

have to say, except you sort of become

obessesive/compulsive---- " did i lock that, better go

check, uuugh " , shawna.

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shawna

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While we're on toys. .The neighbor where I " babysitt "

their children. She changes the toys maybe once every

season. The child w/ autism thinks it's new toys, but

it's just the same toys that he hasn't seen in a

while. At least it keeps the mess down to clean up;

and I think it gives him less toys to play with.

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Well, I think I hit on a temporary solution. When takes his nap, and

is down in the living room (basement) is when I like to do my sewing

(which is upstairs). Yesterday, I set a timer and checked on him every 15

minutes. He can't tell time to the 15 minutes yet, only on the hour and

half hour. Sometimes I just got down on my knees and peeked into the

downstairs, other times I made noise to announce my arriving, other times

came down quietly. He was good for about an hour and a half, which is

great. That tells me it's a boredom factor, and I'll try to be done in that

amount of time and maybe just sit with him while he watches TV. I'm also

going to discuss it with his psychiatrist on Friday to see what he would

suggest.

But thanks for all the input. I keep thinking, he's going to be a teenager

in just 5 months! I want to be able to leave him in a room for a couple of

hours without finding things like that.

And, by the way, my MIL thought it looked like laser beams, too, the string.

It's just that it involved 5 rooms and 2 floors! I was calm about it, but

Dad would lose it. Today they came and got Dad from choir practice because

had tied his shoes into about a hundred knots.......and what did I do

but make a mitten keeper for , by attaching them together with a

crocheted string that goes inside the sleeves of his coat (so he can take

them off and not lose them). Dad said, you realize what this is don't you?

will have the coat crucified somewhere in his room. Oh, well.

Loriann AKA Flitter the Christian clown

Wife to Dewight

Mom to , 11 years, Down Syndrome, PDD-NOS and Celiac Disease.

, 2 years and Strong Willed and Celiac Disease

Both homeschooled.

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> Sometimes I just got down on my knees and peeked into the

downstairs, other times I made noise to announce my arriving, other

times came down quietly. He was good for about an hour and a half,

which is great. That tells me it's a boredom factor, and I'll try to

be done in that amount of time and maybe just sit with him while he

>watches TV.

I do not have a two-story house but our house do allow me to sneak

around just like you had described . Same here on joining in and

watching Tv with . The website I had shared on the More Than

Words was so cute that I had shared it with my DH & Rick , 's

14 yr. old brother and it has helped them become involved and

understanding and I liked the pictures included .

Contents :

1. Getting to Know More about Your Child's Communication

2. Set Goals by Using Your Knowledge about Your Child

3. Follow Your Child's Lead

4. Take Turns Together

5. Make the Connection with People Games

6. Help your Child Understand What You Say

7. Use Visual Helpers

8. R.O.C.K. in Your Routines

9. Make the Most of Music

10. Bring On the Books

11. Take Out the Toys

Let's Make Friends

Just received in today's Autism First Steps Newsletter , if not

subscribed : 7 Essentials Tips for Calming Children w/ASD

http://www.autismtoday.com/tips.htm.

Irma, 13,DS/ASD

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